Finally a sorter that can sort brass by headstamp! A 3d printable version.
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This has been a long running project and I am happy to finally give some updates on my latest version of this case sorter which uses a combination of machine vision, machine learning, arduinos, steppers all in a 3d printed machine. I expect to post more about this project in the upcoming weeks so stay tuned.
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The brass-sorting by squeezing is brilliant.
Headstamp sorting is secondary, but a desired goal of mine. Sorting mixed range brass reliably would be a primary goal, and problematically, case dimensions pose some issues when dropping the brass onto the machine from a Dillon collator. I have used a Raspberry PI with image recognition software and a bounding box algorithm to reliably size cases, and that seems to work well. I guess what I'm saying is ... WELL DONE! You have solved some difficult problems, and the case "squeezer" is a stroke of brilliance.
Very good work. Sharing one of these with shooting friends so we can sort brass after a session would be awesome!
Excellent, been following your project for a while.
A great project, respect. Super solutions for various problems. I would like to learn more and look forward for more information about your project. The software to detect the brasses is great.
Very interested in your work! Keeping reloading an affordable and attractive hobby is what allows the shooting sports to continue to grow.
I can't wait to get one of these going!
I'd buy it today. This is awesome!
In grain elevators we had a similar arrangement to position the spout to the capture port for individual bins in order to segregate grain deliveries. We called that "the Cupola" but I think "Distribution Plate": would be a better name in this case.
Awesome design!
Love it! Would love to build one when you release
This is awesome! Once all the kinks are worked out you should build a couple and let some folks beta test them. I’d certainly volunteer as a tester
Your a great engineer, smart guy
Wow! Great project. I built a case feeder for 9 and 380mm using some files from the "Shoebox feeder" video here on CZcams. It works well. This sorter would be such a great time saving project for anyone that likes to cut and resize 223/556 into 300 Blackout cases. Some cases are preferred over others, the rest end up at the recycle business. I also have Raspberry Pi, and a couple of Dell Thin client mini computers. :) thanks for all your hard work.
love the project and would like to purchase one in the future provided you intend to move forward and produce & manufacture them.
This is awesome
This is great! I'd love to build one. It'd be cool to have a centralized repository for headstamp images that users can contribute to.
I have been thinking the same thing. Or at least a way to share models. Look for that in the future...
Very interested in building one. I like the idea of an image repository also🤙
Check out the latest videos for the newer versions. This video was pretty old and there has been much progress since this.
Very cool. Would like one for myself
This is so cool. Love this!
That is cool.
Amazing! If you combined this with weighing the cartridges you would please a lot of f class shooters with this product
Love it. I’d definitely be interested in printing and bolting one together once you get around to releasing it. Sure beats my method of a big bucket of brass, Dixie cups for sorting, mark 1 eyeballs , and hours of my time. It’s a constant battle of available time vs. my ocd for having sorted brass before I reload. But it sure is nice having consistent OALs and my reloading runs are much smoother. It doesn’t matter much on my Mark7, but on manual progressives like 550s, 650 and 750s - sorted brass gives you a consistent feel. So you can tell in the stroke when something’s wrong. Not so much when it’s just random range pickup. Plus you can sort out all that crappy stepped brass.
Thanks Rob! In regards to my "releasing it", it is "released" as it is open sourced and all the 3d models, code and electronics info is available. Please check out the CS7 version info here: czcams.com/video/GTHugpKRd10/video.html
Also you should check the github project here: github.com/sjseth/AI-Case-Sorter
At this point in time, I haven't really defined what "Done" means for this project so it is a continual evolution. That said, everything you need to get a working version running is available currently. Check out the latest video where I introduced a new experimental electronics package for it: czcams.com/video/uEW3m3bBLPA/video.html
@@sjseth-builds Woo hoo! Looks like Christmas came early this year. Thanks for all the hard work you put into it. This is one I kept turning over in my head of 'wouldn't it be great if' - and I figured maybe it would be my path into Arduino as a way of getting it done. But the part I thought would really be the time sink was the image recognition / pattern matching to make the sorting decision. After seeing you document your journey and how many re-starts and direction changes you had on the physical sorting method - with a skill level beyond my own - it made me realize this project was far , far larger than I had thought.
I love it. I would buy a metal one.
Awesome! if you offer a kit with good instructions, I'm in. Keep us posted.
Awsome.
Love this, right now I’m doing it by hand. Could this be adapted to recognize SPP and LPP? Like for 45 where some times it’s LPP or SPP
Definitely, in fact, I did a video on that a while back: czcams.com/video/vlp6HSuLg_o/video.html
I'd love to build this project! Please let us know when you release it!
Great job!
Awesome! I am hoping to get something out within the next month. The whole thing is a bit "experimental" but looking forward to other building it and giving feedback for improvement.
Did you ever release this…?
very cool i dont really need my brass sorted but something inside wants it sorted, i would like to print this i have some PC-CF ready to go
great stuff, Ill be intrested in one once released
Happy to 3d print it. Why did you got PETG, strength?
Yeah, originally PETG, but I have since switched to PLA+ . I find it to be just as strong if not stronger and it is easier to work with. I have been using the Jayo brand. www.amazon.com/Printer-Filament-JAYO-Dimensional-Accuracy/dp/B08NJ2TC73/
Love the project. If you wanted to keep the form factor relatively small, having a Raspberry Pi with a small screen for the computer. You could house all the electronics in one enclosure. I have the same problem sorting now. I like loading same headstamps, so going through is slow and time consuming. Looking forward to updates as you progress.
Thanks Terrill, I have been wanting to see if I can make this work on Raspberry Pi 4 with Win10 IOT. I just haven't had the time yet to work on it. Definitely on my TODO list.
I would buy a 3D printed kit , and then I can would try to sort the items you listed on the screen.. and if you included the instructions in the kit on how to assemble and things of that nature that would be awesome..I have a laptop windows 10 .. what I’m saying is how can I get one of those units either kit form or instructional and of course the program would be needed. I’m rambling on please let me know..thanks 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
This is very cool. Do you have any new updates. Would like to try and build one.
Thanks! Here is the video for the current version: czcams.com/video/s7dy0odA44U/video.htmlsi=LibkM76gl4MO44aB
Wow!!! Very Impressive! I am interested in building one if you can share the s'ware bits. I have plendy of 3D Printers already and it would be really cool if you could run this off a Raspberry Pi with a display but laptops are easy too. My benches tend to collect clutter so the smaller the footprint the better. Do vibrations cause issues? Just thinking about all the shaking when I add cases to my current case feeders. If so a separate pole housing the case feeder may keep the vibrations down. Excellent work!!! Thank you for sharing!
Thanks. Vibration hasn't been much of an issue. If you are interested interested this project, please check out the latest videos on this channel as there has been quite an evolution since this video. The description has the links to the assets and software
@@sjseth-builds Awesome! Thank you!
Yes I want one. Will you ever go into production and sell them?
Currently I have no plans at this point to produce or sell them. Thanks for your interest!
Contact Saul Kirsch from Double-alpha, bet he is interrested
Amazing Amazing Amazing, i want to build one of these...is it possible to see more also get a copy of the arduino code and hardware requirements, this is fantastic , Amazing job sir hats off... to you
Thank you sir! Please check out the latest videos and version of the project. The links in the description of that video have all the information needed to build the project including manuals, videos, etc. Cheers!
I really like this idea. I was wondering, can this sorter sort cases by caliber, like sort 9mms from 380s, 45s, and 40s without changing any parts out?
Not really its purpose. This is designed to sort "same" length cartridge brass by headstamp.
Love your stuff. I would love to have a conversation about helping on your escapement or other parts of the project. I'm a engineer in the automation industry and own automated reloading company.
Thanks! I checked out your stuff as well and would love to chat. I emailed you my contact info.
Great work is this open source??
This is cool. Do you think it could sort 223 or 308 brass?
Yes, it can sort 308 and 223 brass. I have done both.
Great work!! You’ve been very busy. As I commented before, I’m interested. I would need code though as I’m not familiar with any of the controls side. Strictly mechanical for me. If you decide to sell, please let me know. Thank you!
Definitely will update the channel when I have the application ready for download.
I unfortunately do not have a 3d printer is there a possibility you will sell the printed parts with the list of parts i need to purchase to build?
I would love to be able to do that but can't really do it at this time. There are some services which can do the prints (like craftcloud3d.com/) but they are a bit expensive and it would end up costing near $100. At that price you might as well invest in a cheap 3d printer like this one: www.amazon.com/ELEGOO-Motherboard-Removable-Impresora-220x220x250mm/dp/B09B6TPWCV . Thanks for your interest in this project though. I do expect to work out a metal version which may be easier to put together in some respects. I am hoping to build a bit of a community around this and get some other ideas for the mechanical design.
@@sjseth-builds thank you for the link I was looking at them and had not seen that one yet but for a starter 3d it sounds like the one i want and has better reviews that most entry level printers. I think I know what I am getting myself for an early Christmas present lol.
Would this be trainable to sort for caliber? It would be great to be able to dump a range days worth of pistol brass In and having it automatically sorted.
I don't think this would be the best solution for sorting mixed brass as the feed mechanism is really sensitive to case size (width and height). There are several projects out there which basically attach vibration mechanisms to these buckets which give a hands off approach to sorting the brass by caliber for the most part: www.dillonprecision.com/19972
This is one of my favorites because it was such a simple approach... czcams.com/video/n4YO5qp6CGo/video.html
Great design, I am printing this for Terrill Musselman and want to print a quality product. How many walls and what was your infill? TIA
You might want to hold off on that for a few days. I will explain more in an upcoming video. Basically I have come up with a better, more simple design. Anyhow, I will answer your settings question when I get back to my computer.
Hi John, I have added the sliced file and the cura project file to the github repo: github.com/sjseth/AI-Case-Sorter/tree/main/3dModels.
In regards to those settings , i usually go with a .20 or .24 layer height. I did this one in .16 which took forever (like 2 days) to print. The results were nice but not sure they were much better than the ones I did at .20. My infill was 30% and I put support blocks with 100% infill over the pin areas of the project to increase strength.
I am now using Black Jayo PLA+ for everything. I love that filament. It runs well in my printer at 222C with a 65C heat on the print bed. Also since these prints take so long, keeping the room /area temperature consistent really helps to reduce warping
One more thing, I have set my support overhangs to 76 degrees. This helps on the horizontal holes
does this sort by caliber? I am looking for 9, .380, 38, 40, 45 basically pistol cases
This does not sort by caliber. But for caliber sorting, I would recommend the low tech approaches offered by dillon and others. Link: www.dillonprecision.com/19972
Did you release stl files and more info on this? I'd like to build a bunch
They are available in the github repo
i need this in my life, can it tell the difference between nickle plated and yellow brass?
I believe it could be trained to do this. Check out some of my newer videos for the cs7 version of the sorter. It would be similar to the video where we sort 45auto brass by primer size .
@@sjseth-builds I need that too!
You should patent this and sell it to one of the reloading companies. I can see some competitive shooters as well as commercial reloading companies wanting something like this.
Patents are very expensive and I have had hardware businesses in the past and it is a ton of work. There could be some money in this but that isn't my primary concern at this point. This is mostly just a hobby for me at this point and I love seeing the suggestions for improvement from the small community we have here. Also others are really generating some neat improvements for this which I really love!
I'd be happy to build one !
I'm not an engineer, so you can take this with a grain of salt but wouldn't it be better to have it so that the camera lens faces down and the headstamp facing up? Also, doesn't using a vertical feeding system increase the chance of brass nesting with pistol calibers?
The issue is in the difference in size of the various cartridges. 223 is quite a bit longer than 9mm. This means, you have to refocus or change camera positions with cartridge changes. Nesting shouldn't be an issue if you are sorting brass of same cartridge type. This sorter isn't designed to sort 9mm from 45.. it is designed to sort Federal 9mm from Winchester 9mm (headstamp). Ideally sideways would be the best approach and something I am working on in a future version.
Did you ever make a released version…?
Check out the 7.1 release video: czcams.com/video/s7dy0odA44U/video.html
The project is still very much a DIY project but there is a supportive community of builders available as well as all the instructions and tutorial vidoes should you decide to take on this project
Do you make these for sale? If so, could you send me some information I would love to buy one.
Please send me an email or reach out on discord. You can get my email from the channel contact info and discord if you go to the video description and the project website download page
Sorry, the description on this page: czcams.com/video/s7dy0odA44U/video.html
What does plans cost
The instructions to build this are free and available here: www.reloadingrecipes.com/HeadstampSorter
Really well done. Congrats. I would like to manufacture and handle product distribution and service for you, through the same business partner doing it for my inventions. How can we speak? My FFL is easily found on the internet if you’d like to call or write (I think it’s bad practice to list phone and email info here). Sure Shot Tactical Scottsdale AZ
Thanks for the kind words! I appreciate it. At this point I have no plans to bring this as a product to the market and the hardware it is really a DIY open source type project.
@@sjseth-builds I thought that too with my first 3D invention but was besieged with requests to please print and assemble. I’m retired, I don’t want to work that hard, so I partnered with a company who can do the “hard” work to fill that niche of buyers who just don’t know how to get it done. In the mind of the buyer, they are also worried about spending the money to have someone print things for them and then discover it doesn’t exactly fit. A lot of people are looking for turnkey solutions not DIY. Happy to share my experience, and there’s nothing in this for me other than trying to help get product to those who need turn key. Let me know if I can support you if your direction changes. Keep up the good work.
@@sureshottactical5403 Thanks again for offering assistance. Just an FYI, this is a pretty old video (in terms of this project) and the machine has evolved quite a bit since then. We have a discord group of people who are working together on this project to make it really something great. Here is a sneak peak of one of the latest revisions (still in testing). czcams.com/video/-_W2og2uuTw/video.html
Oh, I forgot to mention, my email address is available in the channel info (about section) but only if you are on a computer. Please reach out in email as I do get people time to time who are looking for someone to help them build it or print it for them and it would be a nice base to cover
hey do you got discord or smth? I have a few questions if I could pick ur brain on a project im working on similiar.
I do not use those platforms. You can email me however. My contact info is in the channel info but I think you have to be on a computer to (not phone) to access it.