ROCES M12 VS ROCES 5TH ELEMENT
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Roces M12 VS Roces 5th Element
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This video helped me in differentiating the two skates. After 25 yrs I’m ready to skate again. Always wanted Roces as a kid but my parents couldn’t afford them. Now I’ll get to experience what these classics are like.
Did it all come to reality? I’m scoping the 5th elements out 😂
@@Opethianautsame. Seems like they are a better fit for us older dudes trying to bring back the memories.
I just picked up a pair of Fifth Element in Size EU41/42. They fit perfectly for me and I love the skate. I always wished I could skate M12 but because the shape of my foot, I could never fit that 41/42 shell. I tried the 43/44 but that one didn't feel as controlled as I wished. So the Fifth Element is the logical choice for me.
Great review.. I appreciate it. I've watched several reviews for various skates over the past week and yours is the only one I've seen that has discussed weight. As a 40 year old trying to get back into skating after 20 years, that's actually a pretty important factor for me. Glad you included it!
I am almost 35yo and I always wanted pair of Roces since my mate had them when we were in primary school 25y ago, and one day i will buy them! Ps not really for doing tricks (too old for that) 😀but too just have them. Greetings from Poland mate.👊
Good skates, no pressure points. Feel like a million dollars.
Coming up 38 next month and all i got to say is you're never too old for tricks!! You just got to dial down on the risk factor
Same story for me, bro. Started skating 80mm this summer after 20 years pause. But really want to buy Roces next summer because of school memories (I had some no name Chinese replicas those days).
I'm 43 and made my first front side grind almost a month ago, it is never too late bro! get yourself a pair of m12s use protective gear and start trying, we are in a golden age! there are so many skate parks around, so many lessons on youtube, so many skates in the market, professional riders to get inspired, take things in a slow pace and you will be alright. and you know what, you will feel yourself much better
I'm 39 you can definitely still do tricks.
I had the m12 in the late 90s need to get a new pair haha but I’m riding aeon 60s at the moment first new skate in 13 years . Love the channel !!!
Your videos got Me coming back I'm happy with the widespread. Blades 13. Buying them now couldn't find the old k2 fatty. I road them m12s for years they killed my feet. Now happy the make a wide. Thanks 👍 😊 for the input.
Being an original Low Rider owner, I just ordered new M12 boots, after all, it is the same shape mold so it should fit fine. And if it's a bit tight in the beginning, the liner will adjust as I use it. And people always told me I have quite wide feet. Never had any issue with them "narrow" Roces.
thanks for you video I will buy roces or ci5 and do roller blade again like in 90's when I do ramp and jump for 7 hours by day on Trocadero club in Paris ! loving roller blades culture ! thanks
keeping the culture alive thanks rick!
thank you!!!! awesome as always
Finally, this should be told to us from all the skates and brands... Bring it on booooyyyt
This video helps so much I love your content and very helpful 🤘
Why the heck is this the most helpful and awsome channel in the whole CZcams community!!!!!????
Dude u r awsome!!
Because you touch yourself at night
Have a pair of 5th elements and absolutely love them. Super comfy and very solid. Bought them a size smaller than all my other skates but the fit like a glove. Flex vs support is great and never had issues with them skating bowls.
What size shoe do you wear ?
Thanks for the video, perfect to make a choice 🎉
For me the M12 always fit very tight in the width, but now I have the RL1 liner and it looks like a Tardis I have all the space I need. and can move better and it is sturdier. I don't know how, but it drives great. I ordered a Tnec frame so far still riding on anti rocker on the Roces frames, certainly a lot of fun
The sound was fine. Didn’t notice any echo. Happy Christmas 👍👍
lino! i love all of your videos, you are the man. i think you accidentally call the m12 the 5th element more than once during this comparison? oops!
great video
During the first few minutes you call the M12 "the 5th Element" multiple times so I'm glad I happened to have been paying attention to the video instead of just listening along.
Thanks for doing this comparison!
yeah he totally did, I thought I was going mad
He gets it wrong a second time at the end, should be noted.
@@jrodrigo1984 he does it 3 times in total 😂
Yeah I noticed that, it almost makes the whole video pointless!
The brown one is the M12 right?
I'm still waiting for a revival of the K2 Fatty... I still got it, broken, in the cellar.
i remember that one. i chose an impala back then though. great for the pipe and ramps, but hardcore on the street. it´s still running, although i think i will get new skates and restart again this year, with 45...
I had the k2 backyard bobs
These look very similar to the rollerblade lighting and lighting trs that I used back in the day
Hi Lino, in the m12 size 43 is the same as 44?
Wish i could find a size 300mm mondo or 47eu 5ith element😁😁
Been having a hard time finding skates like these online can you or anyone recommend somewhere to get these kind of skates in America
Roller Warehouse is a great shop. I've ordered my past two skates from them. Great customer service!
Ricardo, I have a question. I’m curious how to down size in skates. Do I get a liner true to my size,then down size In the boot?
Or do I downsize in both liner and boot?
Both, just make sure it's a thinner liner
@@kevinwelton7437 ty
@Ricardolino I just purchased some Valo ab1 gold, I couldn't help myself the were 99.00 US very cheap. I wanted to change the soulplates before skating them to preserve the valo classic soul plates, will the 5th element souls fit since they look similar.
I'd like to know that too. Have You tried it finally?
Have You tried them? Do they fit?
@@sawomirg.8707 they fit great and I ordered a couple more lol 3 sets to be exact they slide so good. And bring you a little lower.
1) What were those weird frames on the thumbnail? 2) What would the sizing be if I wanted the M12 boot but the 5th element soul? Help me Ricardo Lino, you're my only hope.
I'm sorry nobody answered your comment for 2 years but, in the thumbnail pic, the white 5th Element had an Adapt Symetrics frame and the M12 had a Masterblade frame. The soulplate sizing correlates the same way he explained it. A 43/44 M12 boot will fit a 41/42 5th Element soulplate. And you can translate that theory across all the grouped sizes.
Ricardo, will that dual soulplate from 5th fit on M12? It looks like soulplate from Valo tv's
Thanks heaps for raising this one S! @Ricardo Your thoughts here would be priceless. =) Thanks a mill in advance!
Yes they do fit straight on you'll just have big gaps between the soul plate and the boot.
Boas ricardo
Podes ajudar que tamanho comprar? calço 42.
Já tive no wheeladict (teu site?) a ver. Tive uns M12 em 1998 e ultimamente tenho ido para o skate Park com os meus filhos e bateu me a vontade de voltar andar patins. 😁 Mas mais de 20 anos sem andar vai ser uma aventura regressar.
E ai amigo, também estou exatamente esse tempo sem andar. Como foi a sua volta as pistas?
Wait I didn't know a 5th element stock liner would fit in an m12!! If I am a 9 stock m12 liner I guess a 8 5th element liner would be the way to go inside a m12 8/9 shell?
I think it is possible to put the 5th soul plate on the M12, right?
If you have some more info on that will be nice to hear it. Thanks.
Yeah, its possible. You will have gap between boot & soul plate
@@jrodrigo1984 I think the Valo was a M12 with a skin on top and the 5the souls. The gap between the soul and the boot was filled by the skin fabric
Btw he accidentally refers to both skates as 5th Elements multiple times in the vid. The tan (Sesame) one is the M12. The white one is the 5th Element. All the info he gives is correct though.
I see this video soooo many late jajaja I from México, and, the size of foot is many different on EU, US, UK and the size Mexican, on my country I hace the... My feer are size 8, but, on US and the EU are 10 and 44, well... I buy my skates one year ago, and dont use because my foot hurts because the skate are 43, hurt like doed a new shoe (I think) and, well... What can I do, to make my skates more confortable?
Pretty sure these were the skates all the kids had at the skateparks growing up. I mainly just skate around w the kids and play basic street hockey but I’m still very athletic for 30yo, so I’m thinking ima scoop a pair of these. Gotta be better than the skates I’m using n can hit up skateparks whenever I’m near there.
As for sizing.
The 10/10.5us 5th element is 6mm larger than a size 11/12us m12 according to the roces sizing chart.
I think this is because they expanded the shell out to the old valo soul plate as they were no longer doing skinned skates. Thus they use the medium sized soul plate. This way you get a slimmer valo soul with a boot that is accommodating to that foot.
I think they size the 5th the way they do because they are using a smaller soul plate.
I think the sizing chart needs an update. I bought the 5th elements because I saw the 10.5 was actually bigger than the 12 m12 I was skating. Even though the 5th element is technically 6mm larger, I think they mean wider. And in terms of length it actually feels shorter... and thus the m12 feels better... I notice if you don’t lace the m12 at the bottom and only at the top to prevent heal slip It feels better than a laced m12 for wide feet.
And with that being said... the only way I can ride the 5th element comfortably is with the roces rl1 liner or the intuition v2 liner (them intuitions are thicker and won’t work).
The 5th element is an awesome skate- sizing is just funny.
I also met Eric the shred at Woodward last November and he drilled a bunch of holes into his nils grey m12 to give it more flex. So there is an idea.
Anyways, I just wanted to share my Experience with sizing on these skates in case it helps anyone.
uma comparação entre o razors cult vs roces m12, seria interessante ver....
@@stuco ai sim! valeu irmão!
Hello Ricardo!!, I want a Roces M12 but I read that this model is a size smaller than normal, I usually wear size 26.5 cm
Could you tell me what size to buy
Us 9, I’m the same size. 9s feel snug and comfortable
If only there was a shell between the 10-11 and 11-13, then the Fifth would probably be perfect for me!
Gotcha ;)
Hello
Do they still sell M12 in this color?
No unless you buy secondhand
I forget why do I need a second back surgery I wish I could still skate. Walking straight would be nice.
M12 all day, Every day
5TH Element = best :D
ps: People with such a defect have dysfunction of these photoreceptors - elements of the retina that are sensitive to color. They exist in three basic groups - red, green, and blue. Color vision disturbances can be selectively related to the lack of vision or a reduced perception of each color. ;)
Considering the 5th Element are the heaviest aggressive skates on the market, do you have any issues with the weight?
@@anawkwardlifemedia Definitely not the heaviest on the market, I used to skate the original fifths and even as a kid with a size to big I still ripped it up. As an adult you should have no problems with the weight.
Blue lol xx
Just had to sell my sesame m12 tried getting back into skating again but came to a very harsh realisation that at 35 and alot less fit aggressive inline is a no go actually makes me sad because I love aggressive. So going to get some freestyle ones now
Bro im 35 and also debating the same thing, what were your struggles with aggressive?
@@andymac6881 my knees 😂😂😂on a serious note justvcouldnt get the feel back found with going freestyle I can push off and power on alot better these days
I’m 41 and ya just have to eat clean and drink alotttt of water
Tiger balm helps my knees before a session
The m12 has always been the best skate. Razors are crap.
A lot of Blabla and just a few informtions... but everythin is good in the end, so you can buy it. That's just an advertisement, nothing critical.
And 9:55 again, you dont know which ones are 5th element... Its a disgrace
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Get prepared next time!!
2:52 - 3:15 you obviously dont know which ones are MJ12 and which 5th element, talking about Fifth element and pointing to MJ12 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣