Them 908 Sean Darst vs Roces Fifth Element
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- čas přidán 10. 01. 2020
- It's the battle of the blading brands!
Since Them's inception there has been a fierce rivalry with Roces, so we decided to pitch the two brands against each other and see which skate comes out on top.
We take an in-depth look at the features of the Them 908 Sean Darst pro skate and compare them with the Roces Fifth Element.
This episode of Honest Reviews is brought to you by the words "incredible" and "however" because I cannot seem to stop saying them throughout the review! I swear I know more words, but I think my vocabulary is trying to catch up with getting comfortable speaking on camera. These things take time, people!
If you have any questions, leave them in the comments and I will respond.
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Also totally agree with the Tribe Called Quest comment!
Thank you for a quality review. I haven’t skated for 20 years and I’m now 37 and I am going to get back at it. These are the two skates I have been looking at and after watching this I am going to go with the 908’s. You are a sick skater too and also have a new subscriber 🤙🏻
Ha! Thanks. Both skates are great so either choice would work
Great review!
Looks great with the Roces liner!
I was surprised how well it works.
Great review - was looking for something like this. I think the Roces shells fit my foot a little better.
Both skates definitely have their own benefits.
Thanks, really helpful, I’m also a size10uk. I bought the 1st gen size L, fits fine but the shell is way too large! Seems like a M with intuitions is the way to go😉
I am a size 10UK and that setup - with the medium Intuitions - fits like a dream.
"I'm a massive fan of unity tricks" I never would have guessed that really. lol to be fair they are cool tricks and I do love Unities myself
great video.thinking on getting 5th elemnts or 909 thems.not sure yet.one question.can i rock the them soul on the 5th elemnt?
wow brought it back to vg4 puppets of destiny !! i couldnt remember the name of it, i been looking for it for a min but didnt know the name ....and i always think of the tribe called quest part ...and the team paradise ad at the end with the wierd elevator music .....hi 5!!!
im watching vg4 now on youtube ...!OMG thank you so much so many memories
I've recently got a pair of 909's and I have noticed the same thing regarding the back frame bolt; there's a slight bulge at the heel when it's tightened all the way. So all you did was use a frame bolt of the same length as the front one? And you haven't found any issues with that so far right? Thanks a bunch!
Yeah, it was fine. Remember to check the cuff bolts at the start and end of every session. They tend to come loose
“I like big soul plates” ... usd shadow enters the chat 😂
hi, thanks for the review, i would like to ask you, which one are more flexibility?
Fifth Elements are way more flexy. Them cuffs are surprisingly stiff
are them 908 wide foot friendly. I was looking to get the 5th element caz they are wider then the m12. do you have any recommendations?
I have wide, flat feet. Both the 908 and Fifth Element are great for wide feet. The Fifth Element have more room at the toes, if you have larger feet
Good review! I couldn't believe how heavy the 5ths were when I held a set. I'm pretty sure they are the heaviest skate on the market
I don't know about that, buy they are pretty heavy. You don't notice it after a session or two, but it definitely makes the skate slower.
It also might feel much heavier, since Roces soulplates are bulkier and the boots toe area also - more weight especially in the front makes the skates feel clumsy and slow. I've found over the years, that the weight is not that big of a deal when talking about light to medium weighted skates. For example the Razors SL suits better for me than the more lighter USD Carbons, since plastic boot is also more flexible and the skate is more supportive all around. I also like beefier liners, which add more weight but feel much more comfortable. Also proper shock absorber is nice to have under the heel.
@@zhingy my opinion is probably invalid, I still skate solos with Seba liners. I've always felt if comes down to what works best for the individual. That said I plan on throwing some plates and frames in some old K2 midtowns and seeing how that plays out
@@zhingy oh, it's definitely the soul plate that is the cause of the weight.
@@zhingy I have large feet, so the difference between a lighter and heavier skate is increased because everything is bigger. I take heel pads out of most skates that I right because I don't like to lean forward too much. I have never been able to skate the more recent Razors models for that reason - the heel pad makes them lean forward more than I like and I find it makes the skate feel slower as well.
Hey awesome review! I just got a pair of these and was pretty excited til after I tried them on. I’m not sure if it’s just my pair but I’m experiencing something really strange with the cuffs. They flex forwards to the point where it feels like the buckles are breaking and I’m gonna fall over forward. Did you ever have that problem and if so, is it an easy fix?
There is quite a lot of flex in the cuff but some people prefer that. It's all down to personal preference. If you don't like it and would like the cuff area to be more rigid, I would recommend getting stiffer liners. The Roces ones are quite soft. The best options I have used are Intuition V2 liners and MyFit Second Skin, both offer additional support. It might also be worth using longer waxed hockey laces and wrapping them round the cuff for extra support.
wheelsceneblading I actually fixed this problem and yeah it was just me lol. I wasn’t fastening these properly but I also went with your suggestions of a stiffer liner since I had a Reign v2 liner and I love that liner the best but I have my k2 insoles in the stock liner and hockey waxed laces and I tightened the skates properly and with this setup, these skates since getting back into the game have been the best feeling skates in literally years. Thanks for your response and suggestions 👍🏾.
With more support in the cuff, do you mean the roces is more flexible than the them? You truly kill it in the unity department man!
Roces is considerably more flexible in the cuff.
@@wheelsceneblading Thanks for the reply, so much to consider the 5th elements always look so stiff
@@watchthislekkertje trust me, they're not. If you are looking for flex, you will enjoy them topsides and royales feel really nice in Fifth Elements. And the new Nils ones look great
@@wheelsceneblading yeah man I do, the nils are sick however have a pair of green nikes that would match real well with the Gotos.
Them all day
How would you compare the width of both shells same size? Are the 908's just as wide?
The Fifth Elements are wider
@@wheelsceneblading do you think the 908's would be too tight on wide feet? I'm hoping they're not as narrow as M12's🤞
The 908 and 909 is definitely wider than the m12.
Pretty solid comparison. The new 909s look way better than the 908s, particularly around the lacing area. Still super nostalgic for the fifths though.
I definitely prefer the look of the 909 and was going to hold off and get a set of those, but I couldn't resist trying these ones first.
wheelsceneblading ah but now you’ll be able to do a review between the 908 and the 909. Haha.
@@iamuglypeople Also true!
The new 909 pat ridders are nostalgic too……… st8’s 🔥
@@michaelhill6980 yeah I recently bought the pat ridder 909s. Beautiful skate.
Where can I get that music
Hit up lost_dreams_ig on Instagram and tell him I sent you! He has a tonne of stuff on his soundcloud.
Don't roces have a patent on the memory buckle?
It would be simple enough to make a slightly different version.
I'd be tempted to put the memory buckle on your new THEM skates.
Which do you think is better for extra wide footers?
My feet are wide and both are great. Them have more support.
Thanks.
Which would you prefer between 908/909 vs Razors SL?
@@davetechme I'm not a fan of the Razors SL. I prefer the 909.
@@wheelsceneblading What didn't you like about the SL?
@@davetechme it wasn’t a great match for my foot shape and I found the skate quite unresponsive and slow.
ive never seen a loading dock in a park. thats sick
The park is called the Loading Bay for this reason and the street course is built around the loading docks
We got the jazz....
I think that little piece of plastic is to stop the liner from moving around in the boot
Nah, it's to stop the hardware receivers on the underside of the boot damaging the bottom of the liner - in case there are any sharp or blunt parts - but it's not necessary and most other boot brands don't even bother including them.
wheelsceneblading ya that too but if you didn’t have a big foot and you were on the small end of the boot like an 8 in the 8-9 shell you would need that thing too stop the liner from moving around your foot is crammed in there so it’s not gonna move around anyways if you had smaller feet and allot of space in the shell you need that plastic to stop the liner for moving around otherwise the smooth bottom of the boot is too slick that’s why that have that textured plastic at the bottom it allows some purchase for the liner on the bottom of the boot
@Dennis Sauer I mean, it's plastic, so the sweat would literally just run over the top of it, go down the sides and reach the hardware anyway! Hahaha! I think that someone might have been winding you up!
@Dennis Sauer I have never bothered to measure. All I know is I have flat, wide feet. They are deceptively wide boots.
@Dennis Sauer ha! You could be the first person who has ever described it as that, including myself, but thanks for the compliment! I've used up all my grinds though, need to learn some new tricks for the next review!
Energy transfer lol. Get some Roces Romes.
I had a pair in 1995, so I'm good.
roces on the left and them on the right. the thumbnail so misleading. hehehe
We are sneaky like that.
I thought it was lino
Shhhhhhh. It is. Don't tell anyone. It's a secret.
Burn both! and strap on some razors....downsizing is gay, use boots that fit and roll better!!
What's wrong with being gay? You got a problem with gay people?
@@wheelsceneblading well err yea, its gay, and yes i do have a problem with gay people, no matter where i go they all fancy me!! Extremely annoying when all youve popped out for is a snickers and a pack of crisps 😋👍
@@cheeseface99 out of interest, what size shoe do you wear?
@@wheelsceneblading i am a uk size 11- 11.5 depending on the footwear.
@@cheeseface99 then you should understand the need to try and save weight wherever we can! We are both out here skating in huge ass skates! Plus, if you are a 10UK, you are just slightly too big for the size 8/9UK shell and your foot is way too small to be going into the size 10/11 shell, so downsizing makes sense! If you are at the bottom end of any shell size, you should always try your luck with a smaller size. You are at the top end of a shell size, so it doesn't make sense for you.