Men in Black International - A Waste of Time
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- čas přidán 3. 06. 2020
- So I missed this one at the cinema (lucky me), but I guess it's time to review another failed attempt to restart an old franchise. Join me as I explore the failure of Men in Black International.
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They should have had the original characters in it to humiliate them and kill them off. It worked so well in the Star Wars sequels.
Yeah that pissed me off too.
Nothing says to F*ck off to us older fans of the original 3 Star Wars like pissing on those older characters by killing them off as well.
BryGuy Says
Legends timeline and older characters: *Exists*
Disney, Kathleen Kennedy, Rian Johnson, and JJ Abrams: so you have chosen death
The thing that sucks about it is that they could’ve done the old character deaths better by having them go down fighting hard and have actual good character writing, creativity, and plot, tho that seems to be a foreign concept to Disney as of rn
Lmao this reminded me of 21 jump street
Would be funny if they died like the rock and Samuel Jackson in the other guys
@@liammcguire1954 Yeah exactly. Use the sequel trilogy as a well done send off for the older characters (maybe not kill all of them in this trilogy) while building up the new characters in the background for future movies.
"Little girl spends her whole life wanting to be a Man In Black.
Then she is one.
The End."
I thought that was Michael Jackson
"Woman wants to be a Jedi, then she is. The end."
Black want to be in her
Then he does
The end!
Then I laughed so hard to the comments section
The end
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Correction - "Little girl spends 10 minutes of screen time wanting to be a Man in Black. Then she is. The end."
Lets point out something. In the first Men in Black, Will Smith is able to join after...
-He chased down an alien known for speed and dexterity.
-Was not completely freaked out on the concept of aliens, or dismiss it when he was being interrogated by a weird agent or seeing an alien get its head blown off.
-Was a capable police officer that inadvertantly knew of a criminal alien, and to let him slide because he could wrangle greater threats
-Went to the interview, where he showed he had interesting ways to problem solve (Dragging the table to make it easier to write on the test), not just firing at aliens because they looked like a threat, firing on a perceived threat due to rather odd reasoning (Given the organization, this worked in his favor)
-Getting a personal voucher from pretty much the top agent in MIB
-Getting time to think if the job is worth it, basically flat out told "You'll never see your friends and family again... think on it"
A solid chunk of the movie J is not a member, and has to work for it, only to end up as a junior role under a very senior mentor character during their investigation, where he makes quite a few mistakes during his first few days simply because he doesn't understand how things work in the MIB. By the end, through endurance, training, and self sacrifice (Bug kicked his ass around), he was a full agent, and had earned the position.
This one? 15 minutes in "I want the job! I'm a loner and totally don't need friends or family! I also am shown to engage in criminal activity to get the job I want!" "You're hired!"
Yes bc she's a strong feminine woman 😂😂
@@kebokev7519 strong diverse female character 😉
Quick Note: At 2:25 precisely, you can see Tessa's character as a child reading "A Brief History of the Universe", a book that's over 420 pages long and is usually meant to be read by an audience at least twice or thrice her character's childhood age.
In short - it's pretty God damn stupid and heavy handed to make us believe Tessa's character is so great because she is reading a college-level book, when in reality there are hardly any children who could or would want read it.
But hey, she's a young black girl that needs no establishment to tell her what to do right?!
Edit: Keep in mind, by the way, that in the 1st MIB film, J himself called out something like this in that shooting range during the MIB screening / possible recruit scene - in that why would a little girl be having those type of books, which are way too advanced for her as a child? In short, it's suspicious then and it's suspicious now.
Holy shit that edit part was great! These idiots probably didn't even watch the older films. Just saw the main characters'appearances and copy pasted it
That could be calling back to the girl with that quantum physics textbook in the original gun range scene, but if it was meant to be a homage then it's a shitty reference because Will Smith would have put one right in the center of her forehead
That's a great catch. Funny enough, Will Smith shot that girl. lol Seems like an overreaction frankly.
@@SeraphsWitness She's the only one who actually seemed dangerous at the time. An eight year old girl in a dark alley with monsters, reading a quantum physics book? She's about to start something.
Tessa Thompson acting emotions:
Happy: 😒
Sad: 😒
Angry: 😒
Content: 😒
She's the female Orlando Bloom.
Seriously, she obviously wanted no part in this dreck. And I don't blame her. This was a great big massive train wreck of a film, it was.
@@tackyman2011 True, but at least Bloom doesn't have perpetual smug bitch-face syndrome like this 'empowered' atrocity.
It is called the perpetual resting bitch face and Tessa Thompson somehow has made a Hollywood career from it.
Master Penguin someone obviously saw Thor: Ragnarok and said “Hey, i’ve got an idea. This....but it’s Men in Black”. Like for real, that’s probably exactly what they did.
Remember when Will Smith ran down an alien on foot for 15 blocks... and caught it, and still didn't get a free pass?
Even after that he still had to do a job interview.
Yeah me too.
Working for your status: what’s that?
"The best of the best of the best... with honors." Still laughing at that so many years later.
Not only that but Will Smith was a cop and had to compete with FBI, CIA, Spec Ops, etc. So he had training and showed incredible physical prowess. That was 1997.
Female minority gets a job because she wants it and has vague hacker superpowers? Current year -1. How progressive!
...was J actually competing with them for the job, or were they there to see how J reacted to peer pressure? Just a little hint as to how layered that scene was.
Remember MiB2? No, me neither.
Other characters: "You killed my parents, I'm here to kill you for justice."
Tessa Thompson: "You brainwashed my parents. I wanna work for you."
seems about right
just like real life^^
Mileage may vary on that one.
Walked into this movie waiting for another one to start, it was the most BORING AGONIZING 5 minutes of my life.
Did the same with DUNE 2022 and I was amazed and couldnt wait to see the whole thing
@@worsethanhitlerpt.2539 Yeah, Villeneuve's take on Dune clarifies and reminds us what matters in screen entertainment; what makes all the difference.
The base formula is not easy but extremely simple: Whatever compels the audience to keep watching is a success. (Well, within sane limits. "There is a pressure trigger under your seat cushion" would be cheating. 😅)
2:24 Young Tessa Thompson is such a genius that she reads quantum physics books, just so that you know how absolutely brilliant she is. Remember when, in the first film, J _shot_ a little girl for reading books like that, because those books were way too advanced for her and she was definitely up to something? That scene was great. That MOVIE was great.
He shot a cardboard silhouette of a little girl..
Bit of a difference...
@@codymoe4986 The underlying logic is the same, though: what kind of girl her age reads Stephen Hawking? It's aberrant behavior, and in a world like _MIB_ where alien invaders can be hiding amongst humans, it can potentially get a girl like her in trouble.
But now in this movie the logic has changed: a girl her age reading a book like that is intended to show how _smart_ she is, in the most unrealistic way.
@@codymoe4986It’s just a *LITTLE* difference!
Movies are so bad now. I actually started reading again.
Yeah, me too. Haven't really watched any brand new TV shows or new movies in about 2 years.
@@amannamedsquid313 i didnt watch TV in the last 6 years.
I started to buy DVDs from classics from the 70s, 80s and 90s.
@@GLARebel Exactly, A dangerous trend.
Me too. Just finished the James Ellroy American Tabloid trilogy. Outstanding.
One great reason to follow Critical Drinker: He watches all these trash movies and piss on them so I don't have to. His rants are far more entertaining than these movies anyway
Exactly!
He's destroying his sanity AND his liver over all of these terrible movies, just so we don't have to. He's such a sweet guy.
And it allows us to debunk the argument - "but you haven't seen it, so you must be a hater to dislike something you didn't saw". Someone I trust saw it and it was trash as I suspected case closed.
You nailed it. I'm actually happy these (presumably) crappy movies exist because the Drinker's take on them is so entertaining. I disagree with him about Thor: Ragnarok, however. That one I did happen to see, and I'll never understand why anyone found it other than wretched. If the MIB reboot suffers by comparison, it must have been very bad indeed.
Agreed
Ghostbusters 2016 and MIB International - Chris Hemsworth really DOES know how to pick a franchises outside the Marvel Universe. In this pace he soon will be known as Chris Hemsworthless.
I can only think of Rush and Extraction.
Add Thor Love & Thunder to wrap things up
@@GingerZombie29
"In the Heart of the Sea" is also very watchable. Without the twist in the second half it could have been a masterpiece of classic proportions. Still an awesome movie and worth a watch.
I think he's the only spot of hope in those movies. lol
Movie stars have expenses to meet. They know stardom often has a short shelf life. When offered a paycheck they take it.
I like how in the first movie MIB we’re only interested in “ the best of the best of the best sir!! with honors” and they were put though tests and we can assume they were all hand picked for their skills. All she did was show up and ask.
Remember when Will Smith had to actually train to earn his place in the MIB instead of being handed everything because of his gender and race?
He was so far out of his depth. Hell Zed gave K the "is this really the best we can do" look. He had to prove himself and work at it.
@@Nurgles_Rot_ he was pretty clumbsy at the beggining. But K saw potential. He was actually a police officer before. Not a random chick that somehow hacked the Hubble telescope
@@skullkid964 true. But he had to earn Ks respect and trust.
Thats because woke shit was not trendy in the 90s-early 2000s
That is The Blm/Antifa/Dems Way
"Hilarious!" - Empire
"Amazing!" - The Star
"It's Shit!" - The critical drinker
And I know who's review i trust most.
2/3 are garbage, 1 is a movie analyst
"I get paid to give great reviews" .. What a cushy job that must be.
*Shait
LOL, nailed it!
What I'm impressed about the MiB trilogy is probably how Agent J is still treated as a rookie despite the increasing experience. You can see his growth but each sequel are him jumping to a bigger pond than he already mastered before.
Mib3 had such a good ending, it closed out the series with a conclusive and pretty nice ending, but that doesn’t matter to studio execs who want to make a quick buck
Middle aged white male authority figure was the villain - my shock has been imagined.
So is Darth Vader, Joker, Voldemort, Norman Bates, Hans Gruber, Keyser Soze.....
@@Partylikeits-br7bb lol, Norman Bates? He just oozes authority running around his crappy motel.
Party like its 1993 Keyser Soze an authority figure? What are you talking about. Such a misguided rebuttal.
@@jon4715 Dude's a crime lord. He has authority in his line of work. Its not misguided at all.
@@mikespearwood3914 The point was that there are many of white villains, but "anti" sjws think there's some agenda going on every time a white man is a villain.
8 years old and she saved an alien and reads up on the history of black holes. She is literally the cardboard cut out that J shot during the testing scene.
If only that happened in this movie...
The book ain’t about the „history“ of black holes.
You should probably read it, it’s way more than that
@@musiccer7446 is it also a history of how you got so up tight?
Just saw that little Tiffany scene minutes ago 😭😭
IM DYING LMAO! That is too true, now it has me thinking there might actually be some plot....nah.
at least will smith actually EARNED his suit and glasses......................!
Yeah... And he actually worked hard to earn his bigger guns...
I just love how dedicated this man is to the all-mysterious Tatiana
If you give her enough cash, absolutely nothing of her stays mysterious, believe me... 😜
Seeing that she was reading "A Brief History of Time" as a girl reminded me that a little girl with reading material well outside her age range was enough for Will to put a round between her eyes.
Would have been nice if they did something with that; e.g. had it so that SHE was the mole all along but unaware of it, vindicating Chris Hemsworth's character and leading to an inverted confrontation in the third act
To be fair in the first movie the little girl reading well beyond her years was also totally calm in a dark alley surrounded by aliens. J targeted the only thing in the scenario that didn't belong.
@@roblindsay3422 Well yes, but she's a "diverse female character" and it's illegal for those to be villains.
That was one of the best parts of that movie, I saw it when I was a kid, read a bit above my level and it killed me lol.
LOL that's right good observation - he picked out the little girl with the physics books. 'Brief History of Time' isn't exactly high-level as far as scientific rigor goes in fairness. In the first movie those were ostensibly advanced physics books. then again while a middle school nerd could read "a brief history of time" it's still out of the range of a little girl barely older than a kindergartner. A plot twist going to waste!
This movie is pretty much a long list of check marks begging for approval:
- Black woman feminist protagonist
- Thor as the side kick
- A woman in charge of MIB
- Beautiful locations
- A lot of CGI stuff
- MCU level jokes
- Plot twist for villain
- A cute little creature
I'm glad they didn't add gay or lesbian character just to make it diverse
No not black wamen.... it's African American Wamen. And the title of this movie should be Men in African American
Opsss Wamen in African American....ahhh!! what a beautiful movie title!
@pink girl well with how things are and most people don't know much she's pretty much black by default
@Mark P. I haven't seen the movie so not sure, but isn't that suppose to be O, who already was in charge in MIB3? Who had a thing with K.
"MCU level jokes"
No wonder why I gave up on MCU after Civil War.
The headshake at the noisey cricket feels like a middle finger to will Smith's character
For me, it's just about preserving the Universe these movies were based on. I wasn't too thrilled about the 2nd Independence Day movie, but at least it stayed true to the lore of the Universe it was building off of. This movie does everything to bury it, could have been cool if the daughter was Agent J's daughter before he became a Men in Black Agent and renounced everything. That would have been a cool series, her trying to live up to her father, finding out who her father is, and trying to track down her father. This is why movies like this don't do very well out of the Nostalgia factor, once the Nostalgia bug is lifted, the movie fails on every level.
First film: Man - Hard working policeman who takes risks and uses unorthodox methods to achieve his goals. Gets job.
This film: Woman - Turns up. Gets job.
I guess she took her parents advice on how to get a job. "Just walk in in a suit and hand over your resumé and ask if they are hiring."
I've literally just said that in another comment lol. The fact he's fearless but flawed makes him a perfect foil for TLJ sidekick,, that was the good thing about old movies, they didn't portray these characters as super strong with no weakness, they had weakness and it was... human arrogance. Smiths character was brash, witty, fearless,, but a little hot headed, jumped in a little to fast without thinking it through, and his fearless nature got him in to hairy moment.. he was a flawed anti hero,, he had weaknesses but you cheered him on throughout the movie. How can we cheer on this character? she's flawless (portrayed as such), she's beyond intelligent, she's super fast reactionary super woman with no weakness whatsoever.... so why bother cheering for her? she doesn't need any help after all she's the finished article ffs. And that is the reason they just don't get it... Viewers don't want flawless.. they want someone anything but so they can get behind them,, the underdog versus the franchise.
Equality of outcome, anyone??!? 😂
I mean, that's quite realistic, if Harvey Weinstein, Roman Polanki or half of Hollywood is running the place.
It's so realistic it freaking hurts.
So ... the arms dealer ... has lots of arms.
Is Hollywood full of twelve year olds?
That's just silly. They keep the 12 year olds on Epstein's island.
It's not even as creative OR funny as an arms dealer being a guy selling ripped off arms.
@@hatework4282 damn it! Was about to comment something like that.
12 year olds? Nah. They hire kindergartners with milk and cookies for paychecks to write the scripts. Because all of the budget goes to making crappy direction and keeping the pockets full of the shill critics and BS marketing.
And how is a human arm supposed to work without a shoulder? Maybe it could flop around some but it wouldn't be able to punch or do anything useful. Maybe if it had been on a tentacle or elephant trunk thing, but that wouldn't have been an arm.
Remember when movies had characters that were motivated by personal experience or trauma? Remember when movies could string a plot together that didn't rely on convenience, luck, or in-universe magic? Remember when movies had characters that actually had to struggle to achieve their goals? Remember when movies had villians with proper motivation and creative schemes to achieve their goals? Remember when movies didn't overly rely on mcguffins to motivate the plot? Remember when movies had reasons for characters to travel from place to place to place beyond "cause that's just where it is lol"? Remember when movies were good?
Pepperidge farms remembers
What baffled me is how she went from working in a call center to expert in alien weaponry, at least Will Smith's character was believable, being a cop used to chasing down criminals.
I got about 20 minutes in and had to turn it off, I didn't want to witness the butchery.
Why can't these people create new stories? There seems to be a huge lack of creativity in Hollywood these days, they seem blissfully unaware and out of touch with the public.
I can't wait for the Wild Wild West reboot starring Melissa McCarthy and Jodie Whittaker where the robo-spider transforms into a middle aged white banker
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The way they eat their own,not surprised if someone out there will complain of whitewash.
😂😂😂😂😂
Dude... now I'm just depressed. You want us all to become Drinker's or something?
Ah no, don't give them ideas! That MIB thing might have been more interesting if the girl wanted to take some kind of revenge and had to face some real struggle...like having to roll with the system first or something and falling in love with Chris. But oh no, he is part of that system that she hates! Now what should she do...at least some kind of character development. And maybe not everything falls into her hands without any kind of attempt. She must be bad at SOMETHING, right? Like mediocre fighting skills, having thoughts about hurting other people...or something. Anyways, I won't waste my time on this as is.
There’s a deliciously ironic twist within the feminist pursuit to expel a stereotype of women being single layered, helpless characters waiting to be rescued by men. All they accomplished was to create a new and equally uninteresting one. The shallow but flawless woman who exists only to upstage men.
They chase men around a table despite claiming they have no need for them.
The women in Ghostbusters are incredibly flawed. But they each brought a unique strength to the team that combined made them stronger
@@christopherthomas7980 Not at all. None of them really fulfilled a concrete niche and were just all over the place.
Andoc I know, czcams.com/video/q61IP50SbSI/video.html
If they wasn't so hell bent on pushing these political agendas they would see once upon a time that they had written stories with strong female leads who were flawed interesting and layered. You didn't need to be slapped in the face and constantly reminded that it was a female being the hero of the story because you were focused on just that.......the story. Everything else fell into place. But the sell outs in Hollyweird serve their dark overlord masters.
Liam Neeson being the mole is THE most obvious plot twist I’ve seen in a movie
Man, MiB wasn't just about aliens and flashy visuals, it was about Jay and Kay's relationship with one another. That was the glue keeping that series together. I loved MiB3 and even liked MiB2 but even I knew it had to end there. When I saw this "sequel" I was frankly disgusted
She's such a typical female lead. She's a genius who's also perfect and talented at everything. She gets everything handed to her, and never has to struggle, because she's just so amazing. Blegh!
a Mary Sue
Well, they got the "handed everything to her" part right. Even generally unattractive women have it far easier in life than most men.
She got the Rey treatment
@@noless reality it should be called a Mary Shit lol.
This is the black woman that every woke angry black woman wants to be. Given everything they think they deserve, gets to pay out and be the final judge of everyone without comeuppance and they get to save the world because duh nobody but a black woman is capable of doing it guuurrrrrrllllllll
The funny thing is: ever since I went to watch this movie, I forgot I watched it until I was reminded that the movie existed.
Mega lolz.
Lol, I feel you. I can’t even remember if I’ve watched it or not. I have a feeling that I did but I don’t remember anything about it
Its like the movie mind wiped you after you saw it.
Well thx for reminding me not to watch it....again.
I didn't even know this was a movie until this video showed up lol. Thought it was only 3 movies. I think I will keep pretending there is only 3.
One of the best moments of the original MIB was that we SAW Will Smith have to go through multiple tests of intellect and skill, showing how he is unique in his own style.
But f*ck it, Valkyre can just get accepted because she wanted to
If I went to NASA and was like "I think space is cool, hire me" they'd piss laughing and kick my ass out
The test was the coolest part of the first MIB. Especially the shooting range scene.
Hemsworth plays the same character in the recent Ghostbusters. The "dumb hunk" sidekick that feminists fantasize about dominating.
I don't know Hemsworth is like Henry cavill... He's too charming to be mad at him for taking a mediocre role...
Idk why Chris has no balls at all and let them step all over him for money..
@@kysike666
Obviously his priorities are set more on putting food on the table than whatever it is the film is doing. To be honest, I can't really hold it against him for having that kind of mentality.
Anyone walking into the acting business HAS to be aware that they won't be able to pick all their roles, and that they will absolutely do characters that run contrary to their own personality and trait, and character that they'll come to despise. Heck, playing against one's own type is a mark of talent, and not that many actors can pull it off.
Can't fault him for taking on the role.
I mean, wouldn't you have jumped on the idea of playing a prominent character in a MiB movie? Prior to 2019, I sure would have.
LennyHatesEAP I don’t know, I didn’t find his role in Ghostbusters mediocre. He was one of the only good things about the movie.
Rey: I'm the greatest Mary Sue in the galaxy
Molly: hold my privilege
Batwhamen: All male roles will be absolute perfection... when they fit a woman. *falls through a hole*
Molly: 🖕🏿
But does she have 'privilege'? I mean....she's not 'white', since if (apparently) you are part black you classify as 'black' instead of 'white'.....
@@StsFiveOneLima I believe the privilege line is in response to the current trend of having every female main character be hyper competent and near flawless, despite never doing anything to earn that.
@@StsFiveOneLima Are white actually privileged though?
They don't get all the gibmedats. Is working to pay for other's welfare a privilege? Is being denied the pension funded by your work money a privilege? Is being denied a position because someone with the right skin color (which is never white, or yellow for that matter) applied at the same time as you a privilege?
Mulan 2020 : hold my Qi
I remember this movie. I went to the restroom halfway thru and after coming back I literally didn't miss anything. 🤦🏾♀️
As one reactor called this movie, "Cinematic Beige." It does nothing. 🙄
What I gathered from the personalities of Molly and Henry while watching the movie:
*Molly*
Literally has no falws and is immediately good at everything with no development, her character is one of the best examples of a Mary Sue I can think of. ( (2:25) She's reading a complex Stephen Hawking novel at the age of like 5 for christ's sake).
*Henry*
Although he's supposed to act as a mentor of sorts in the movie, Chris Hemsworth pretty much reprises his role as Kevin from Ghostbusters 2016 acting as a cocky comic relief, although they at least tried to lower his stupidity a wee bit for this film.
Most of the jokes in the movie were made at the expense of H to further drill it into the audience's brain that it's funny how dumb he is. It's honestly annoying how little character development any of the characters have, especially Molly who (as Critical Drinker mentions) literally joins the MIB and has no other goals or aspirations for the rest of the movie.
Basically, please don't waste your time watching this movie. Trust me, watching the originals would be a much better use of your time.
my 10yo son - after watching the first three MIB movies all the way through - wanted to watch this, and then 20min in decided he wanted to rewatch Dredd instead. makes a father proud :')
Give that kid a cigar and a whisky
@@weswolever7477 Might wanna slow down with them there cocktails.
Hell yeah, you get a thousand dad points. Now get the kiddo some ice cream.
Aww so wholesome
What a great kid!
MiB3 was such a satisfying conclusion to this franchise. But of course, OF COURSE, they couldn’t just let it go. Of course.
Yeah, that movie was surprisingly good. Much better than trilogy enders made over 10 years after the fact.
Agreed
Renegade Vile Bad Boys For Life would like to have a word with you.
Just sit back n watch people fall into a never ending put of failure with a chuckle and a whiskey.
No need to give such a fuck.
Agree. Except for the one plot hole that bugged me.
Allusion to him meeting the young kid before his recruitment, because in the first film, he was recruited SOLELY based on his athletic aptitude, and surpassed his competition based on his intellectual aptitude.
I have fond memories of this movie, not because of the movie itself but because of the bomb ass convo about anime girls I had on discord after
I really appreciate that Drinker is capable of entertaining me for almost 15 minutes, while talking about a movie that I didn't even know existed. :-)
In a movie with an infinite universe of possible species, they STILL managed to make the villain...a white man
And the protagonist a woman of color albeit very light skinned lol
To be honest that also happened in the other movies
A white and a black agents fight against an alien that looks like a white human
TheSurfinBird 69
What skin was he wearing......... I’ll wait.
@@maskedstickman7511 but they weren't directed with an agenda in mind, and they weren't directed like shit and it made sense
I get your point, but this is an alien in a costume. That it chose a white male to be its disguise should, actually, imply that white males are the least likely to be villains.
Can we talk about the fact she scored a 95% on the first week in Alien Languages?
In 5 years I still can't reach a 50% in Spanish and I'm supposed to believe she could learn and speak fluently at least 2 or more alien languages with no roots to any existing languages in our Planet within only 1 week?
And then I'm expected to identify myself in her and clap?
More believable to be fair-some people to have an extraordinary language affinity: and due to the ambiguity of 'alien languages,' I think it's acceptable. Could be wrong.
It might just mean "she got a 95 on this week's exam". I got all A's in Spanish, too, but that doesn't mean the UN would hire me as a translator.
Of course, we know this is already more thought than the film crew put into it.
Spanish is not a challenge, try Japanese. But it seems nothing is a struggle when you're Mary Sue... everything just... works.
@@Slav4o911 or Germany
@@mortuitissedai2085 still , you could have the best affinity to be a violin player but you cant even play after 1 week , it is downright impossible in any circumstances to be able to be fluent in a new language on one week no matter how talented you are.
It's sad what they did with the plot. The title alone made me so excited. It has an excellent concept. Like, a threat so big they have to reach out to different branches around the world? Yeah pretty damn cool.
I liked the first MIB, not so much the others. I will probably never see MIB International.
Funny thing is I could actually see Hemsworth’s character being a decent MIB agent in a movie with much better writing and him as the protagonist.
this could have worked if someone bothered to write a script.
Me too. Like Drinker said, the movie easily could've had his and Tessa's roles switched around. But, y'know, he isn't "dIvErSe eNuF" or some other bullshit.
@@chicostephenson wasn't there like a script writer for each actor or something like that
@@jothecocopop Exactly. I guess they didn't realize that would've been a win for their "muh diversity." Tessa's character would've been the boss over the straight, white man and showing him the ropes, leading him on the wild adventures around the world.
Why wouldn't they continue the formula of giving proper send off to legacy characters like they did before, like Tommy Lee and Will Smith, then this new guy standing for/with Will Smith's character as a trainee....it's not that difficult.
"You're here, because you're the best of the best. Army Rangers, Navy SEALS, NYPD, FBI, and... You. What have you done? Stumbled on a crash site? My God, you're prefect. Go put on a suit. The rest of you, let's administer this eye test."
@Raw Engineer those other candidates were all tested and in competition with each other. Not just handed the job. Also, Zed implies that they disdain the candidates government experience, telling the failures that they're, "everything we expected from years of government training" or something to that effect, so her experience with those agencies isn't worth much, if anything.
Love how she is SOOO good with weapons, yet still has her finger on the trigger in every scene she is shown with a weapon....
i genuinely appreciate the fact that you are showing cam footage with foreign subs. It's really an expression of it's own and truly genius
Chris Hemsworth seems like a cool bloke, and has a nice variety of the characters he's played.
Conversely it feels like Tessa Thompson plays *the same* character in literally everything.
As a fellow Australian I’d love to have a beer with him and just hang out. Meanwhile I’d want to stay as far away from Tessa Thompson as possible. I feel like we just wouldn’t get along.
Remember when in the thick middle of the corona virus craze,every other celeb(god i hate that word) went crazy cause of the lack of attention?
Meanwhile mr.Hemsworth: nah im good,i actually like this cause i get to spend some time at home in australia with my family and friends
Yea that says a lot,hes basically just not part of the whole pedowood circle and seems to be just a genuine good guy with actual values
And that character is an insufferable twat.
She was very different in Annihilation tbh.
@Alabama Man Extraction?
So basically the movie ends with Tessa achieving her goal after 30 minutes, and then there are approximately 90 minutes of flashy credits scenes?
Might not have been a bad plot to have the entire movie being an outsiders attempt to get into the Men in Black.
15 minutes, not 30.
@@bunnieskitties293 that is a far more interesting concept than what this movie face us
Literally 12:32 minutes into the movie she's da best whamen agent evar! Non-binary earthlings in dark dress.
Basically.
Just rewatched men in black from 1997 and it was a pretty fun action movie, never got why they turned it into a franchise though
I'll find you on Twitter too but your content is awesome and I appreciate it mate. Always on point to be honest
I feel the most bad for Chris Hemsworth. Such a talented actor, why Hollywood hates him to the point of being a dumb Ghostbusters secretary, an incompetent MIB, or even a fat God, we’ll never know...
Hollywood must have a passive-aggressive hate boner for the guy, that’s the only way I can see why they keep doing this to him.
He's a box office draw, audiences love him but they hate him. So they'll use him to bring people in but still give him shit material to stick it to the Patriarchy.
But then he played a badass mercenary in Extraction :)
Hes blonde, Swedish, and a male. So that at least 3 reasons for Holywood to hate him over, and probably demand evey day that he apologises for his imaginary privilege
He's a good looking Anglo male. That image must be constantly deconstructed, undermined and ridiculed.
there is no MIB without will smith and Tommy lee should never have been redone
It's like Pirates of the Caribbean without Johnny Depp.
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@@mattboy2313 Too soon 😥
@Roman Francis part two sucked so much ass that part three fell into the black hole it left behind in its wake
Most sequels and ALL prequels should never been created.
Will Smith is actually really smart, he never accept to a role in a remake movie, Independence Day and Men In black
I agree with a comment I saw on another channel that a better thing for the movie would have been having Molly immune to the neuralizer for some reason (maybe she's part alien or something even though it's cliche), she grows up with everyone thinking she's crazy for believing in aliens, and when she finds the MIB they want her to stick around to find out why she's immune and during that time she ends up proving herself as Agent material. Sure it's not original but it's smarter and could make the characters more interesting than they were in this.
What I didn't get about Molly was that she was done with all her training in the same kind of montage as Will Smith's, as well as getting registered. I honestly thought, at first, that the whole movie was done over the course of two days because I blinked and missed her "training".
I feel sorry for Liam Neeson. He is like an Irish Sean Bean at this point. In most movies he is in, he either dies or goes evil..
Yeah, but at least in Batman Begins, the older mentor turned bad guy thing was done well
Guess his bills needed to be paid
It's pronounced "Seen Bean" if you were unsure.
If I were Hollywood, I'd cast a guy with his charisma in a role with lasting emotional impact on the protagonist too. Especially if that protagonist is cast for physical appearance or one of the other, ehm, diverse reasons possible, instead of acting ability or fit for the role.
Neeson is nowhere near as good as Sean Bean, though. He’s decent, but to be honest, it’s mostly just his voice that people want from him.
Just another tragic franchise. Started as a masterpiece, ended as a pop song.
I'd say Charlie's Angels, but Bad Boys meets that criteria better
@@ninab.4540 I thought that Bad Boys for Life was good. But hey to each their own.
M8 bad boys is goat
Masterpiece? MiB was fun no doubt but not exactly a stroke of perfect cinematic genius
Fast and Furious
I personal think the era of film is done. I think this is what we are going to get from now on for the most part which makes me sad.
Hey least we have anime
@@Kaosxca if that's your fuckin bag sure.
just watched this on Netflix (after the MiB Trilogy) and I just sort of knew that I would find a video about it being shit on this channel, and look what we've got here. Absolutely spot on.
For all the talk of MIB being simple entertainment, that exchange between them where Kay says "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals" has always stuck with me as one of the most insightful things a film has ever said.
100% I reference that line more often than I ever imagined I would.
The first Men In Black is a perfect blockbuster! Does everything it should without feeling like you're left hanging at any time. Quick wit, fast pace, lovable characters, fun visuals. A gold standard to live up to!
I repeat that quote often.
It certainly explains why Disney Star Wars made so much dosh.
This is reference to Le Bon's book "Psychology of the Masses"...
"Don't ask questions. Just consume product, then get excited for next product." - Jay Bauman
"You may not have notice...but your brain did"
I Refuse
"genuinely made me question why I do this stuff... oh yeah, drinking money" hahahahaha. love it.
Having a Lexus be the "new hotness" in this movie is akin to the South Park episode where Satan has to settle for an Acura cake because Bundy, Gacy, and Dahmer ruined the Ferrari one! XD
The more I see of Tessa Thompson, the more I wish I'd seen less.
Yep, she was the main reason I couldn’t wait to never see this movie
Thank you!
I thought I was the only person who thought that.
Honestly it's nothing wrong with her acting. It's just the characters she is type cast as. She was ok in Creed and Sorry to bother You for a supporting role, but she needs to pick something that is atleast somewhat original besides these throwaway sequels that nobody will remember.
She's like every other actor of her generation; they're better models than personalities. You go back to earlier movies and those actors had charismatic actors with enormous personalities from Arnold to John Wayne. Then movie buffs bring up someone like Tessa Thompson or Ryan Gosling and I sit there thinking, "these actors aren't so great."
That's why Hollywood is trying to drain what charisma is left out of their elder actors like RDJ or Phoenix or Arnold and even that's not working if the movie itself sucks.
“I’ll be fixing your wagon soon enough.” That is the quote of the week.
The drinker has some of the best one liners with that drunken Scottish accent! 4:48
love it
yeah, can't wait for that one!
I like that you compared it to the original and why it fails to match the writing quality. That helps to understand the contrast of characters>
When the alien bodyguard recognized the main chick i nearly pissed myself laughing
She's a woman, of course she is qualified, like in all movies these days. Got to get them gender quotas and representation.
Saying she isn't would be saying all women "of color" are unqualified. God forbid they have a flaw...and a character arch.
How would anyone identify with the character if they didn't share gender and skin color.. I dunno..
maybe character?
Be careful, that kind of talk will get a city burnt down...
Hollywood seems to forget that Will Smith and Eddie Murphy were once two of the biggest stars in the world and, in their best movies, they were never shown to be perfect.
@@fattiger6957 exactly had nothing to do with their colour, obviously they commented on their skin as comedy but also they were genuinely amazing actors
Why was representation so much better in the 80s? Remember how cool it was to see Sarah Connor develop from a damsel in distress to a badass warrior? Remember seeing Ripley go from lone survivor to heroic defender? Man, those were good times
@@trequor because these days they seem to focus on pushing ideology down your throat first, everything else second.
Story/characters are just the tools, not the product
This is without a doubt the most aggressively mediocre movie I’ve ever seen. Not only does it stay in its own lane, but it also goes 10 miles under the speed limit. I wish I could neuralize myself so I could forget I ever watched it.
Lol than you would watch it again lol sounds awful
I wish i had a time machine so i could go back to the 1930s and prevent this whole godawful, soul crushing timeline from ever coming to pass.
I remember when Moana came out, I kind of hated most of it. It was the most cookie cutter, bland, checklist filling Disney movie ever. I watched it again last week, and after all the other garbage from every front I've been subjected to, I found it quite entertaining. I think the media will slowly erode us until we find fun in trash they can churn at the snap of their fingers.
More like 10 miles per hour above stationary.
no need to neuralize, i forgot it by the time credits rolled
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The best part? when she retires, she is wiped of her memory of the existence of the MIB. so she will have lived her whole life not ever knowing that she ever was a member of the MIB.
@Roman Francis all real possibilities. Mib has the worst retirement plan.
@@TheKrensada Better than democrats.
@@Numenorean1 Zing!
@@Numenorean1 damn libtards, am i right? wanting basic services like medical treatment, workrights and justice without belonging to a rich minority.
No man, since she was good and fantastic at her job and didn't need to prove herself since J did and go through the tests, she'll get special treatment and be allowed to retain her memories as part of MiB after retiring and until the day she dies
What an acting powerhouse! Even when Tessa isn’t killing it as an emotionless plank of wood....she can still, somehow summon the raw emotions of a completely separate plank of wood. Don’t underestimate diverse female character 1!
The poster girl for erectile disfunction acceptance
Is one a good actor if they are amazing at playing the self insert shit 2010's protagonist? Like, you're a horrible actor but you're amazing at playing this very wooden role?
Tessa is actually a great actress. This movie is crap sure but she isn't. Just watch Westworld and Annihilation for starters.
@@yevgeniyaleshchenko849 She wasn’t good in Westworld, though.
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i forgot this masterpiece existed until you reminded me....
Man after Men In Black 3 wanted to see a Men In Black 0 with Josh Brolin as Young K.
Would like to see a Tessa Thompson biopic that details her signing a contract with the devil to become famous and forgetting to ask for talent.
Ha
That would be 99% of Hollywood's "talent" right there.
Never even heard of her. What's she been on?
@Regni Leif shes been on, coke, ecstasy, Heroin and. OH you mean movies Ha yeah um she was that Valkyrie chick from Thor 3 and Nothing else.
Molly has grown up into Tessa Thompson, the most cruel fate that could ever befall a little vulnerable girl.
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Its Tessa Thompson; Cuties Sympathizer. Get it straight!
I’d say becoming a Hollywood actress is a much worse fate.
At least she didn't grow up into Amy Schumer.
@@jeremyusreevu237 Or Brie Larson. Nobody deserves that fate
Oh wow 👏 A great character indeed. She must have "INSPIRED" NRS to do the same thing with Frost... until she became a robot to suddenly help Kronika because... the script needed it to happen. Don't worry NRS. It'll be fine. 😉 Great video as always Drinker 🍺🍻🍺🍻👍
the kind of Mary sue stuff is relatable to young women because through no effort of their own, they are desired by many. but of course that won't last
“Aren’t you glad you lived long enough to watch all your favorite franchises burn to the ground?”
NOOOOOO
"Feels great, Rich"...
What is left really? lol.
"Some people just want to watch the world burn.." Dont know who said it, but seemed to fit.. :)
The answer to all your questions about Molly boils down to her being a strong independent woman of color which negates the need for training, vetting, or character building.
The irony being that she's a walking stereotype. Yay progress.
It's fucking irritating. My little sister's about the same colour as Tessa. Looks kinda like her. She's busted her ass for everything she's got, and the world keeps busting her back down for it, but she keeps on slugging. She doesn't need role models who are perfect and get everything handed to them. She needs role models who fight and struggle and overcome.
@@jeremytitus9519 Yeah, but that's not the plan. This dumb, entitled attitude actually undermines the idea that you have to work for things, which is how the world is. There aren't many really positive role-models in media at all and you know that, that's why you're on CZcams, watching real people create content instead of watching that shit.
I died with the hardcut to Trainspotting "ITS SHITE BEIN SCOTTISH" xD
When I asked my 7-year-old (who loves the original) if he wanted to see this, he said "Why is 'international' a big deal when you hunt aliens from other galaxies!?" Phew. My kid is not a Republican.
The way I got this position is; I'm, Entitled, Privileged, and a Woman. How did you get your position?
I kissed her ugly cheek.
you could have just said "im a woman" and it would mean the same
You forgot a person of color
Privileged how? There is white privilege, and male privilege, so what other privilege could Tessa possibly have?
@@adamkalb1 male privilege ahahaha this guy
At least Will Smith was a cop before he was recruited
"N-Y-P-D means I will Nock Yo Punk-ass Down!"
Im so glad that I'm finally not even hearing about these movies from anywhere other than the horrible reviews...
No Will Smith, no Tommy Lee Jones. Why even bother?
So tired of being disappointed by Hollywood.
I love this channel. 👍😂
What's a McGuffin? I'm the answer is hilarious from the way he said it. 🤣
Imagine if they had tweaked the plot slightly and had one of her parents die at the beginning of the movie because of an altercation between an alien and the Men in Black. Then she sees them erase her other parent’s memory to cover up the death and she spends her life trying to find this secret organization to prove she wasn’t crazy all along. Years later she sees a report about a ufo and it leads her to encounter the Chris’s character and his partner. She assists them in killing the alien but it results in Chris’s partner dying in the process. Impressed by her skill, Chris takes her back to the Men in Black headquarters to be trained. She struggles at first, but ends up finishing at the top of her class. She’s about to get assigned a partner and it turns out Chris has been waiting on her to finish and personally requested her to be his new partner. They go on work on a case that Chris had been following with his old partner that just so happens to be connected to the events that unfolded in Tessa’s childhood that resulted in the death of her parent. Tessa’s memories from the day her parent died provide new evidence in this dead end case and they both go on to solve it and find closure.
I came up with this story in like 5 minutes and it’s already a significantly better plot.
Dang broski, id watch that, solid plot
A more intimate plot without world-threatening stakes. I dig it, bub.
Whassup, fellow Filmento sub.
Be careful, someone in a black suit is coming over with a flashy thing and boom- all over
Hell, I like that better then my thoughts on the topic and I took twice as long to write em out.
The part that bothered me is the simplicity and easiness of her becoming a Man in Black. Nothing to it, no training, no worthiness of the job, she just fell right in.
Meanwhile, the original movie, the man HAS to prove himself, and over and over to become something.
And they wonder why these types of movies dont make it. WOW...
“Just consume the product. Forget about it, and move on.” Truer words regarding modern media may never have been spoken.
This movie is legitimately the only movie that I have found it physically impossible to watch without falling asleep - it’s that boring! You’re right, I get the feeling it was meant to capitalise on the onscreen chemistry of Chris Hemsworth and Tessa Thomson in Thor Ragnorok, only that chemistry didn’t come across in this movie
Diversity Hire: The Movie.
Oh, you mean the Disney Star Wars trilogy?
@@whiterabbit75 No, that’s Self-Insert Fanfiction: The Movie.
Totally different films.
Even if you change Tessa Thompson for a male, caucasian and heterosexual guy, the film would've still be bad recieved.
A Real Lobster With An Internet Connection is it me or is she supposed to be like super intelligent cuz she’s reading A brief history of time
I dunno it just seems like “guys we have super smart black women pliz watch”
@@keyan1219 Yeah, I noticed that too. Remember when Will Smith's character was a relatable everyman? Now, we have a super perfect, genius as a 6 year old, does no wrong, better than everyone 'Woman of Colour'. Yeah, way better than stupid things like being able to empathize with a character as you see them grow.
The mole is almost always the person who says there’s a mole. Writers, just STOP ALREADY!
@Főfasírozó MOLÉ MOLÉ MOLÉ MOLÉ MOLÉ
I can not for the life of me remember the name of the show, but I remember a reality show where they told the contestants there was a traitor in their midst. Each of the contestants had weird personas and nicknames, for context. (IDK why) One of the team was a sketchy masked guy with the nickname "rotiart" .... Guess who was the traitor.
So damn true. That's like any body of water. If there's a fight bear one you know damn well someone is gonna get wet. This has been going on for fifty plus years.
My favorite mole was in Ozzy and Drix.
@@Kiido11 "SHAT UP!"
your videos are absolute gold
How is Tessa getting all these large roles? The "all women are queens" line was awful.