Addison Cain's lawyer e-mailed me, and it only got worse from there
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- čas přidán 22. 10. 2020
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Update: EFF has blogged about the whole thing, and it includes the full letters exchanged between EFF and Cain's lawyer, Tamara Watson: www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/10/defending-fair-use-omegaverse
Update 2: Twitter thread with links to full letters from all parties involved + more documentation: twitter.com/thelindsayellis/status/1321183153172680708
Lindsay Ellis I have no knowledge of what you write but the vid was cool hope you can put the bs behind you good luck. May the Karens of 2020 get theirs in 2021🤬
Wow.
Make a fanfic about it
Reading through all this drama took a lot of my evening, but I'm not embarrassed to say I'm entertained 😂
Wow, that Watson letter is exhausting to read! I really wonder what goes on in their minds.
It's really unfair how people steal her original characters, especially Bane.
Bravoooooooo
Brilliant
Yeah ikr
Honestly, I kind of wanted to hear more about the stolen witch. I was picturing Winifred Sanderson.
I don't have a Bane
"I didn't actually criticize her dumb book." Never change.
Double this lol.
Specially as the vampire marking tropes have been out for decades
hmm anyone fancy a fight?
Classic Lindsay.
Nannette Esquijarosa come catch these hands
Yes lol
The fact that CZcams, a platform normally notorious for saying "yes" to any DMCA take down request sent their way, actually said "nah" is really the most telling part of this entire story.
i will never not get hype at i don't fuck with you at that point
I'm absolutely convinced it's because she explicitly called Lindsay's work transformative, it's literally one of the grounds for fair use.
wdym notorious? They're under safe harbor protections, they have to accept them unless they know it's bs and it's not gonna come bite them in the ass
@@redwitch95 That's what I think as well. Addison Cain effectively argued a case as to why Lindsay's video was fair use in her DMCA takedown request. It's honestly beautiful to see someone torpedoing their own attempted abuse of the legal system so rapidly and so completely.
@@lorscarbonferrite6964 "Congratulations, you played yourself"
"This is as much effort as your gonna get look-wise. This isn't Contrapoints"
"I haven't researched it that much because who do you think I am? Lindsay Ellis?"
ICONIC.
Queens sarcastically supporting Queens. You love to see it.
Haha, so; I came to this video directly from Lindsay's first overview of the situation and (putting aside the realisation after finding out from the comments that I'd just heard DAN OLSON masterfully play an alpha-dom in wolf porn, and the existential crisis that followed realising I was suddenly _way more interested_ in checking out folding ideas again 😶), the moment I realised it was contraptions doing one of the voice acting bits was a standout.
See, I recognised the voice immediately, but had blanked on the name and so started to doubt it was her. And without thinking, my instinctive response to check this was to say, out loud:
"Sweaty"
in the same voice. And that's the story of how I instantly became 100% certain it was contrapoints without remembering contrapoints was her name 😅
The best "Feud"™️ of all time 😂 supportive shade is the best (supportive shade or shady support?? Either way lol they're both awesome)
Truely great.
Say “omegaverse” five times in front of a mirror and Addison Cain’s lawyer will appear behind you with a cease and desist order.
In crayon
I HEREBY DECLARE MY COPYRIGHT OF THE NAME "ALPHAVERSE" AND RESERVE ALL INTERNATIONAL RIGHTS TO F--- WITH ANYONE USING THE WORD IN ANY CAPACITY, NO MATTER HOW REASONABLE THAT USE MAY BE, BECAUSE I AM THAT KIND OF ALPHA JERK.
I’m dying 😂
🤣🤣🤣
I’m dying
“This is NOT fair use”
Also
“The poster significantly transformed my original work”
Clearly this woman understands fair use.
Lmao
I suspect maybe you don't. Claiming it's not fair use *and* that it was transformed is not oxymoronic. I haven't seen the entire video, but I just saw a sus comment, and had to clarify
@@Daye04 it's sarcasm matey
@@dinhvo276 yeah. It's sarcastic when the commenter says 'clearly this woman understands fair use". Implying that the two sentences are an oxymoron. Which they're not. Do we all not understand copyright law?
@@Daye04 I think you don’t understand what fair use is? Watch the first vid my friend!
Addison Cain seems like that girl in high school who always claims to "hate drama" but is always the one starting all of the drama.
I bet she only hung out with boys, because girls were too much drama - Because they would get pissed when she boned their boyfriends...
Addison Cain is the “feminist” who tells teenage girls to cover up or they’re asking for it
The increasingly unhinged way that Jenny says “To whom it may concern” brings me joy
No joke, I just thought I was getting more fed up with Addison Cain, I didn't realise till reading this the voice actually WAS getting crazier 😂
I also love the way Jenny switches to unhinged-sweet at the end of the letters.
Not that it even needs it but her voice acting really elevates the video
Addison Cain is that one girl who bullied people in high school then claimed she was bullied.
Only one?
@@cam4636 re read that I was describing Addison Cain as one girl unless you think she has a mental problem and that's what you're hinting at.
That's pretty much every bully who bullied me.
i love your profile pic
She stole kids' lunch money and said "It's pretty cringe you don't have lunch money"
If you don't put the quote "I think Lindsay Ellis is a menace, a threat to my child" on the cover of your next book, I'm rioting.
I think we found the best comment folks!
A review quote; "a menace, a threat to my child" -Addison Cain
On the back cover where they usually put the rave reviews.
@@DewMan001 Posted 13 seconds apart. Great minds, man, great minds.
why wait? let's pre-riot. just in case.
_pulls out foldable pocket pitchfork_
"the poster significantly transformed my original work... NOT FAIR USE"
uhhh... 👀
I laughed so hard at that! she walked into the truth and still somehow missed it
Bruh I was dying at this. Literally couldn’t control myself with the idiocy of the statement.
I did not walk into the truth, I was deliberate hit in the face by a large object that had "F A C T S" written upon it
That's the funniest part of all this, like it shows how deeply she doesn't know what she's even arguing about atp 😂
But but don't you understand? Addison Cain thought it was not fair.
The fact that Cain sent a DMCA takedown notice to CZcams, and YT corporate proceeded to tell Lindsay that they think it's bullshit and they're just going to ignore it, is the single biggest plot twist in anime history.
"Ms. Cain, that's not what a hate crime is."
"Well I hated it!"
🙌
Ha!!
👏
💯
👏👏👏
Addison Cain: "Textbooks are public domain"
College students: *wait WHAT?*
Public domain is when you do things for the public and the more public it is for the more domains it is
Argumentative counter post
Nothing to say. I'm just driving engagement.
Yeah, I was pretty surprised to 'learn' that too.
I would say "man I wish" because I have friend who felt this pain, but my college had a rental program so my textbooks were free. Didn't help with regular books tho.
I cried laughing at "this isn't fair use" followed shortly after with "the poster significantly transformed my work by mocking it."
The most important takeaway? Someone needs to give Jenny her big break into mainstream voice acting.
legit, rarely have i ever been so pissed off to hear the voice of someone so based
Jenny wrote and voiced every character for My little pony friendship is witchcraft, which is iconic, she is literally already a LEGEND in voice work so...
@@arielsclamshellbraI mean yeah, but also that was a kinda niche production and Jenny later said that it was kinda cringe
I'd be down for her to voice videogames or something
@@arielsclamshellbraAnd I specifically wrote "mainstream" so... (New to reading?)
@@matthewlucas4990and he was just adding to the conversation for those who might not know so... New to the idea that the internet is public and replies might not specifically be about you?
"I feel Lindsay Ellis is a menace, a threat to my child, and is monetizing defamation for personal gain" HAS to be the quote on the cover of your next book
fully agree, and I'm commenting to drive that engagement
Here is my engagement comment agreeing with you but also an invitation for a “fight”.
Agreed! One heck of a tagline.
If should be the entire about author blurb
Yeeep agreed!
Addison Cain is so wrong that CZcams and Patreon are BOTH on their creator's side. Wow.
yeah, that sounds so satisfying. they got Lindsay's back WOHOO!
@@madisonrose1893 woooo for LINDSEY
They hate to see it 😭
CZcams actually did an about face and went "nah, not gonna take this one down." The Gains!!
Since we are suppose to engage a lot here in the comment session... Hello fellow BABY. A damn BABY I say.
“I have been Courtney Milan’s favorite punching bag for YEARS” she said one thing on twitter about a lawsuit you were involved in because YOU asked her for her opinion
Typical Karen victim complex.
I can't fathom how she could be like "this isn't fair use! She significantly transformed my work!" Like broski did you even read what fair use is
See its not fair use because she feels its unfair to use her work in a way she doesn't like.
"That's not a hate crime." "Well, I hated it."
She seems like the kind of person that would upload a full album of Taylor Swift songs on her CZcams channel, put fair use in the description & then act all surprised when every video gets bopped by copyright
"But it's not *fair*!"
Legit hilarious, like is she trying to imply it *would* be fair use if they DIDN'T change it in anyway and just read it normally?
Cain's lawyer, looking at Cain's wallet: "It's free real estate."
underrated comment LOL :-)
Absolute facts.
this is outrageous. you are completely misstating the facts.
Holy shit, I just wheezed because of this
yup
I'm going to be crushed if I ever actually hear Addison's voice. It can't possibly hold up to Jenny's voiceover.
She needs a movie, absolutly nailed it
Omg hahaha, I was just thinking about her actual voice.
At a certain point in the video I forgot that that's not what she actually sounds like
It's like when I first heard Jared Kushner speak. I was so used to having Gilbert Gottfried dub over him on Last Week Tonight with John Oliver
Here for the engagement!
Is it just me or is anyone else having secondhand embarrassment every time Cain's lawyer letters are read?
And also when the portions of the actual stories are read…
Considering what a poor grasp of the law her "lawyer" seems to have I'm pretty sure that Cain is writing most if not all of the letters or at most someone like a paralegal is helping her write them without actually knowing shit about it.
Yes, I actually had to scroll through some of those parts because of too much second hand embarrassment.
“lawyer”
"No one cares about your response video, Gary."
What the heck did I do?!
Also, as an indie author who has been in this game for six years, I'm taking a stab in the dark with why Addison Cain redirected her contempt toward the other authors listed... it's because she thought she could bully them more since they are indie authors, versus trying to bully you as a trad. pub author. This isn't the first time this has happened in the indie author world. And sadly, won't be the last.
That's incredibly sad and discouraging :(
My brief experience has been that erotica authors are extremely supportive of one another. This event has arisen from narcissism. For crying out loud; we write smut for people to get off on! Let's just have fun with it.
With prejudice lololol 😂
@@chassonknight1383 Right? This whole thing is- wow.
What are some of your books?
jenny does that "indignant middle class white woman picking a public fight with words she doesn't understand" voice so well
It's honestly a little scary
Talk about eye candy!
I call it “hysterical whiteness”
@@forbiddencave what
@@forbiddencave links?
Of this whole saga, my favourite part was when she claimed to have invented heterosexuality and rape.
Wild.
Yeah, that still is the most baffling part to me. You're really telling me you innovated dub/non con in hetero smut? just wow.
WEIRD Flex but okay
I mean, I wish she was right, lol?
@@madeline6951 How? People have been writing rapey m/f A/B/O content inspired by the Omegaverse since 2010-2011 on Tumblr. I'm pretty sure it's still available to read.
@@i10i60 what? I said "I wish she was right" meaning "if she did invent rape, that would've meant that rape didn't exist prior to that in history". I was making a joke. I never even implied she was even a little bit right.
You know, I'm on my 5th rewatch, and it just dawned on me that this video includes various examples of how much goodwill Lindsay has fostered with her business partners over the years.
CZcams denying a DMCA is like the devil looking at a murder and going "yeah that's a bit excessive ngl".
*slowly shuffles out of room*
What was THAT murder method?
Hey I don't like how you misrepresented the Devil in this comment!
Right?!?
Couldn’t describe it better
I know that's probably a youthful naïveté on my part, but I never imagined someone who started out as a Bane thirst fanfiction writer would choose "I didn't like how they transformed my work" as a hill to die on.
She's never going to get Tom Hardy to love her by acting like this
That's how the Fifty Shades author behaves, and she's also a fanfiction author turned pro
And going after another author for plagiarizing a character.
Hey snitch that was my thought. I'm suing you for mental plagiarism
Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight!
Lindsay taking down everything they’re saying gives me big “that’s not true Ellen, you were invited” vibes
Cain: Look at this turtle.
Professional herpetologist: Actually that's a tortoise.
Cain: THE PERSECUTION OF ME NEVER ENDS!!!!!
Cain: Furthermore, while you may be a tenured professor of Herpetology at Harvard with in excess of 200 citations to your name, it doesn't escape my notice that you haven't published a paper in over _three weeks,_ making your claim to be an authority on the matter, and therefore the validity of your opinion, suspect at best.
@@Pineappolis😅😅😅😅
@@user-ok5mz5qv4s A sincere thank you for reminding me that I can, once in a great while when the stars are aligned, be quite witty. I completely forgot about that comment.
EDIT: Although, in hindsight, my use of the word 'citations' is a bit ambiguous. _I_ have more than 200 citations across the papers I published during my PhD way back when (not a brag - your ability to publish in top journals and therefore get cited is based almost _entirely_ on how big a name your supervisor is and it was pure luck that I ended up working for a _seriously_ big gun in an _incredibly_ niche field that no-one else in my year was interested in because it sounded a lot scarier than it was). Should have gone with 'publications' instead.
Addison Cain’s real kink is spending the rest of her life in copyright court
Don't kink shame.
@@LaineyBug2020 same.
I would like it to look like I am engaging more with this content so it will trend. Thank you, and have a good day.
*/Blows up balloon/* awooo
The fact that Addison Cain thinks that textbooks are not copyrighted, seems like she's never read one.
Honestly. Like, that's intellectual property too
Lol, right!? As a recovering academic, my eyes almost popped out of my head!
For real?!
It would literally be *more* likely to qualify for infringement if it were a textbook she was reading from because you could then possibly make the argument that it was cutting into their share of the market. It would still be a hard sell if it was cited correctly, but it would definitely not be less likely to count as infringement. Teachers have been sued for making print outs from textbooks for crying out loud
I got in more trouble for pirating calculus textbooks than I ever have for vast amounts of entertainment media.
Looking back on this, the damn baby thing is the funniest part to me. She literally used Lindsay doing due diligence to make sure her child’s face wasn’t in the video (to avoid the baby being harassed) as evidence of harassment 🙃
There’s a maybe small but non zero chance that that baby will see this video someday
I miss Lindsay also Jenny deserves an Oscar for her performance as Addison Cain
Also Jenny Nicolson should just make a career of reading tweets in a bitchy voice, she's way too good at it
Right?! She does a great job. The inflection when she's reading Addison being whiny in the first vid was grade a perfection
pre-ordering the audio book right now.
I totally didn’t realize this was Jenny Nicholson holy shit
@@dismurrart6648 To WHOM it MAY conCERN...
The least threatening life form: Jenny Nicholson
The most threatening life form: Jenny Nicholson saying "To whom it may concern"
@@patrickrowan6001 you don’t mess with a girl who has a giant plush spider.
@@SorowFame let's hope she never combines her giant Porg with her giant Spider to make a giant flying orange spider
Wait till Jenny Nicholson starts asking for a manager.
@@patrickrowan6001 You know what, I'm not one to kinkshame. Live your truth brother
@@luisf2793 I ship it
"Lindsey Ellis is a menace" I immediately read that like J Jonah Jameson saying "Spider-man is a menace"
They level of paranoia and conspiracy rabbit hole that Cain and crew goes down is concerning from a mental health perspective. She honestly sees herself as a victim of everyone and everything.
"This is not fair use"
"She significantly altered my work"
Speech: 100
Yeah...this is fun!
👌🏽
It’s like she’s trying to win a record for the amount of times she can get legal terms ass backwards and contradict herself in a single correspondence. At this point I don’t know if she’s just playing the ignorance of a 12 year old who doesn’t understand dick about copywrite law because she’s that stubborn on doubling down out of pure, petty malice, OR if she is somehow just THAT dense and air-headed. The more she speaks the dumber she sounds, like what does she think she has to gain?
@@MsScarletwings I also enjoyed Tiffania Watson's use of "exhibit" in a letter...y'know, outside of an actual trial.
@@MsScarletwings
Seriously, this is as incompetent as Digital Homicide's lawsuit against Jim Sterling.
Is it bad that throughout this entire convoluted mess, the most unbelievable part to me is that CZcams did its damn job for once?
That was the upset of the decade imo
Seriously tho! My jaw dropped when i saw they actually took her side 😂
Addison Cain is just That Wrong
Probably just a side effect of 2020 tbh
Right? Hahaha
I fucking lost it in the credits at
Angelina Meehan
as herself
Her Damn Baby
as her damn self
My god Lindsay can hold a torch
Addison Cain is the person you show to friends who think privilege isn't real.
I feel like people who think that will just see this and side with Cain.
Lindsay: [blurs Addison's child's face because the kid is innocent in all this garbage and she is a decent person]
Addison: MY CHILD WAS THREATENED. HER IDENTITY WAS MADE PUBLIC.
Not only that, but if I heard correctly, the photo was from her Gofundme page, unblurred, in the first place..not to mention all the referenced public postings...
The tweet she included WITH the statement proving Lindsey called her kid a "damn baby" was even all about blurring the kid's face in pictures so as to keep it's identity safe. She actually provided evidence AGAINST her claim to prove it.🤦♀️
Lindsay: [offhandedly refers to Addison's child as "dumb baby" while griping about said blurring and Addison's lack of caution with her public profiles]
Addison: HOW DARE YOU ATTACK MY CHILD THIS WAY
She just can't stop telling lies, can she?
Ah Addison, is she didn't look bad in the first video... now?
Why does Addison remind of me that one meme that goes, "Not now, sweetie, Mommy's cyberbullying"
I laughed at this more than I should’ve
@@Sadin15 Same
I have never heard of this before now but I love it
I think you mean "shut up damn baby, mommy's cyberbullying"
does that make Lindsay the mayor? ...of youtube?
The minimum requirement it takes for some dudes to consider someone “hot” never ceases to amaze me. Like, be blonde and thin. I’d be scared to leave a pack of saltines in a room alone with them.
I like how you qualified your statement with "some dudes". I mean, I don't want to be that guy, but I'm usually more interested in what she has to say rather than how she looks. If she's pretty, that a plus, but not a must.
@@daniel_rossy_explica I honestly wonder if these kinds of guys are really attracted to those women (that they don’t really know or like), or if they just say that because it’s expected of them…
“i don’t wanna be that guy” *proceeds to be that guy*
@@charadefae I meant "I don't want to be the the guy that says
@@ageamiu8923 In my experience, it depends on how you meet the girl. If you met her IRL, chances are that she doesn't just look nice, but also sounds nice and (stay with me here) smells nice.
If you met her on the Internet first, it is less likely that you really like her for her picture alone.
Addison Cain: does something illegal
Everyone: that was illegal
Addison Cain: this is a conspiracy to ruin my life
Damn, she should be a conservative politician
President Addison Cain?
Sure she does bro
Commenting for the Algy, here is engagement
@@Shaddytheguy Don't give her ideas! We already have too many of those dipshits!
I see things are getting heated in the heterosexual wolf porn fandom.
No they're knot
@@markgrant4954 Delete this.
@@zmdumpbox2340 I'll see you in court.
@@markgrant4954 The DCMA has been contacted and your works will be copyrighted
@@markgrant4954 (Law and Order gavel SFX)
God, Linsay we miss you.
She still makes content on nebula I believe.
@@ItCameFromTheSkyBeLo I checked into that but it looks like paid subs kinda thing.
I get very uncomfortable when she says "we're all bored and losing our minds and cancelling is fun now" like, oof, she was talking about that exact sort of people...
@@samniel I can't say I blame her for wanting to separate from the CZcams/Twitter world. They were so cruel to her, so many times. I mean, Jesus, her 'Mask Off' video is heart-breaking.
@@mermaidreflection6530 To the point she unlisted it. Good to hear she still makes videos for Nebula. I was sure she decided to stop making videos at all.
Cain: Hey Milan, can you give me your professional opinion on this lawsuit I'm pursuing?
Milan: Doesn't look like you have much of a case, tbh
Cain: Milan is an unethical hack who doesn't know what she''s talking about!!!!
Addison's blood pressure medications must cost her an absolute fortune.
Cain: this is NOT fair use
a judge: how so
Cain: it's not fair to me
waaay funnier now that I have her voice from lindsay's video in my head forever
I think this is honestly how she interprets that phrase.
ahahahhaa i love this. so good XD
She's not that suicidal, definitely not digital...
When a spoiled kid grows up and a Karen is formed.
"She has significantly transformed the work"
Well looks like she won the fair use case for you.
ROFL
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This was a delicious self-own
This was my first thought as well
Self own! Those are rare.
the most surprising part of this video is lindsay saying she doesnt have an ao3 account
Is it woth it? I've been considering applying for one
@@bigamateur9055I'd say so?
It makes categorizing bookmarks somewhat discretely easy, and writing fan fiction on a pretty chill site is good fun.
AO3 in general is pretty high quality, and has a *really* good search and general categorization system
I wish I had the job security of Cain’s lawyer.
I started my new job at a law firm recently and was talking with one of my new coworkers about romance novels and she mentioned “some weird shit” she’s seen and I was like “I do not know how to ask this in a SFW way but was it, um...” and she went “no it’s not the wolf thing” and then she specifically mentioned this video and we bonded over that. It was a hilarious and deeply surreal experience.
Yep. That's an instant friendship right there.
That’s awesome!!
that's real life engagement
Sounds like the start of a beautiful friendship.
Auhhh Knotting, making friends since the dawn of time
CZcams not honoring a DMCA claim on the grounds of utter bullshit is actually quite lucky. Consider buying a lotto ticket.
I think we've finally discovered CZcams's bullshit threshold.
If any of y'all had "CZcams finally finds the rock bottom of bullshit DMCA claims and grows a small but significant backbone" on your 2020 bingo cards, I salute you o7
I was very surprised that they didn't. Like surely other people had made more flimsy and dumb claims. And then Lindsey showed the letter and... wow just wow.
@@Rozdlc there’s probably a threshold of view counts under which nobody looks critically at takedowns at all. Once you’re a gold-play-button creator, you get perks.
@@JasperJanssen:
Lindsay's milkshake brings all the views to the platform,
And they're like, is better than Cain's
Damn right, it's better than Cain's
All of Cain's gaslighting and victim complexes make her sound like an articulate Donald Trump.
I sometimes wonder why people quit CZcams. And then I watch this video and Lindsay and Natalie's canceling videos. And I remember that I can't handle the level of criticism inherent to a normal office job. I would've quit too. Mazeltov, Lindsay. I hope you're finding joy and I REALLY hope you never have to deal with this kind of thing again.
All jokes aside its kinda scary how vindictive Addison Cain is. Like the levels she is willing to go through to destroy people's livelihoods. Had she targetted a much smaller youtuber, its possible she could have destroyed their career.
I was thinking the same thing. CZcams really needs a better system that doesn't enable these nutcases
Agreed. Scary as hell. I don’t know for how much longer she’ll continue to do this if it’s costing her to go to court. I imagine she’s not only vindictive, but rich enough to keep doing it. :(
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She definitely ruined a few writers careers, or their initial careers. She's successfully monopolized a whole sub-genre so she's branching out from there.
Welp I guess this is what happened to like, all those ABO creators!
I feel like Addison Cain’s autobiography will be titled ‘To Whom It May Concern’.
No doubt a spiritual sucessor to "A Pickle For The Knowing Ones" in terms of structure.
@KvAT Indeed, most indeededly.
If you're curious about the "author" a youtuber called Sam O' Nella has a funny video about Timothy Dexter.
I will dispute and say that it will be titled, "WITH PREJUDICE!!!1!1!!"
Don't touch Ao3 😡😡😠😤
That lowkey sounds like a good title for an autobiography
I just realized that when Lindsay is calling Angelina, she puts her phone as if she's hearing with her wolf ears, and that's perfect! 😆
I’ve watched this countless times and *just* now caught that
an unforeseen consequence of watching this video is getting nickleback's "photograph" stuck in my head for hours
Oh damn... thoughts and prayers. :(
For that alone, this video should have a trigger warning.
CACKLING AT CZcams’S “WE WILL *NOT* REMOVE” LMFAO SOMEONE IN CZcams IS ALSO PISSED AT HER
I legit had the "Wait, it exists?" reaction :'')
IABAIWBSJ
I think it's more "We checked with legal and they collectively laughed their asses off."
@@SakuraNyan Pretty sure it just means that CZcams knows they would win if they did end up going to court... It may not even get picked up by the court even.
To paraphrase Malcolm Reynolds: "Well who in the damn galaxy isn't?!"
To quote Sam O'Nella Academy:
"But it turns out that 'Im Mad Butthurt' isn't a valid reason for prosecution, so that went nowhere"
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I remember the quote, but I forgot what video it was from! Can you tell me which one it was again? Thanks!
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@@YokiDokiPanic The life of Charles J Guiteau (HE KILLED GARFIELD)
I also think it's really funny that Addison Caine thinks fair use means using her work in a way she think is morally fair to her, like fair treatment, like when you bring your girlfriend something back from McDonald's if you get something for yourself 🤣🤣
The Romain brothers of Digital Homicide thought the same thing. These types of people are equally unintelligent it seems!
@@Slann88 The Offices of Cain and Romine, dealing in only the finest in horseshit legal cases on the internet.
I miss Lindsay Ellis a CZcams/Patreon personality with public sway
hope she’s having a good day
She was busy having a baby :) She's back with a video over on Nebula, and has guested on the musicalsplaining podcast recently!
@@Minilena *damn baby
this is a certified damn baby moment
@@tungstensmum1491full circle
@@Minilena omg she did?? Hope they're doing good!! One of these days when I have the money I can't wait to join Nebula and see what she's been up to when she's had time
“Ms. Cain is a well known author” never heard of her til I saw Lindsay’s video 🤣
Obviously you don't read enough wolf erotica 🙄
Well known (in a highly specific and niche community)
@@helpme2719 Yeah.... But I have to say I will not read her books. Only her though. Thanks but no thanks, honey.....
Well known... but not for the actual quality of her work...
I love that she's probably more famous for abusing copyright law than she is for her books.
So if Lindsay Ellis is a menace and she often makes Phantom of the Opera content... does that make her a “Phantom Menace”?
... I hate that I laughed. D:
+1 comment for the laugh and engagement (!)
I certainly hope so, lol!
This is getting out of hand!
@@jasonblalock4429 No!
God I love the Omega Verse videos. You will always be missed, Lindsey.
wait what???? what happened?
@@oliviatilleman8055 she was bullied off of CZcams and most social media a few months ago. She released a video stating why she’s leaving.
@@oliviatilleman8055 it does kinda sound like she died, doesn't it (she's very much alive, afaik!)
@@oliviatilleman8055 She was murdered by Addison Cain.
Shortly after liking this video, Addison Caine called my phone asking about my car's extended warranty
Addison Cain: I have been victim of a hate crime.
Lindsay Ellis, lawyers, everyone else: That's not what a hate crime is.
Addison Cain: WELL I HATED IT.
Has Addison Cain's lawyer come after you yet?
Damn, I have the voice stuck now
@@SummitSummit once AC's legal team figures out OPs gender
I'm dying with the comment 😂😂😂
Hahahaha!
BREAKING: everyone who engages with this video suddenly receives an email in their inbox from Raddison Bain, reputable attorney, beginning with the TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN
FIGHT ME!!!!
Whom may it concern? EVERYONE!
Oh, I can't wait for my email!
Fun times
Sign me the fuck up
I think "You hurt my feelings, ipso facto copyright infringement" would be the ideal title for a documentation about this whole mess.
Damn baby? Damn, baby.
I knew this girl who had a mild case of Narcissistic Personality disorder that would get really bad when she did coke. This lady reminds me of my friend on coke. The way everything revolves around her, and everything is an attack, and the whole "gasp, how dare you!" vibe. It's uncanny, really.
"a narcissist on crack" is honestly the best description for cain i can think of lmao, aptly put
@@PH0B0PH1L1A lol
@@PH0B0PH1L1A personally think atp any crackhead is better than Cain.
I'm surprised she didn't sue LegalEagle. Oh wait, she only sues women.
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I feel like. That one would go poorly.
I would give *every cent I have* I see that legal battle play out irl. And then make myself some popcorn.
Never gonna happen, he's a man and a woman with a personality like her probably thinks that men are too easy to manipulate.
I'd love to say Devin would swipe the floor with her lawsuit, but he's way too professional for that. A real law review would be far better.
“Honey didn’t you pick up our child from kindergarten?”
“I don’t have time for the damn baby, Im on the processes of suing someone for making fun of my wolf porn”
“Didn’t you do that last month”
“No last month I was suing someone for copying my wolf porn, KEEP UP HAROLD!”
Yeah, the fact that she's raising a child kind of scares me.
Damn baby
Katherine Alvarez
Yeah uhh, I’m not usually one to make this kind of statement, but all we’ve seen of her behavior reeks of pathological narcissism.
And considering there’s an entire (unfortunately unpopular) subreddit for children of “narcissist parents” to share their stories and comfort one another, I hope that child lucks out of that bad situation one way or another.
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I love Jenny Nicholson being the best high horse author impression of a white woman I have ever heard. And also, I will be watching every ad all the way through, so I hope you monetize the shit out of this.
high horse 😂
35:25 BOY has this statement aged like a fine wine with whole "CZcams not even protecting one of their biggest creators after being threatened and doxxed by another big creator" thing going on right now. I mean, it's always happened, but at this point I think we need to get together and push for new laws to protect users from this abuse. We should have years ago, but better late than never.
So this means that Addison Cain has heard Jenny's impression of her
Jenny will get the next takedown letter lol
nice
Asking the real questions!
And Jenny said, "I got round two." I want to be her when I grow up.
Jenny Nicholson deserves some sort of award for her role as Addison Cain
The really outdid herself when reprising the role.
Queen of wolves and ponies.
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She is a perfect match.
The fact that she and Lindsey are friends makes her calling Lindsey "a menace" so much funnier.
OMG I am 52. High school was 34 years ago. This was painful to watch. Same shit from ninth grade. I ended up speeding the video x1.75 just to get through it.
I just KNOW Jenny dropped everything to voice Cain again. She probably wanted to be in on the drama and i live
The biggest flex ever as a CZcamsr: CZcams actually supporting Lindsay’s content in a request for a DMCA takedown 😂
*_""WiTh pReJuDiCe!!!1!!11!111""_*
Engagement
Engagement
Engagement
Engagement
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It's weird to think CZcams is on the side of good for once. It's like Superman and Lex Luthor teaming up to take down Darkseid.
@@caitlinbrewer4843 2020 is not joking at surprising me
As other commentors have said, CZcams actually investigating and coming to a reasonable conclusion is the most shocking part of this whole thing 😭
It really is.
This is only the second time I'd heard of CZcams doing this. First time was for Jim Stirling, and it's because the guy filing DMCA's against him filed a bunch but never did anything after the counterclaim.
I'm not surprised. I've heard of several instances of this. It's still not enough, though
@@Zalgardis In relation to Jim (but presumably it's the same thing here), apparently last year or so CZcams was more or less forced by the terrible publicity of bad faith DMCAs to put together a task force to handle them. It's a tiny department and it works on a case by case basis so they'd only get involved if it was a very popular content creator getting large amounts of frivolous takedown notices, like what happened with Jim. Or now with Lindsay, for that matter. If Cain had tried this two years ago, Lindsay's video would have probably been unceremoniously booted off the platform.
It's the previous arc's villain becoming an ally to defeat the next arc's villain
Revisiting this classic… Truthfully, Jenny should have been given some kind of an award for her voiceover work in these two videos.
I want to nominate the person who voices Addison Cain for an award. Great work.
I believe it was Jenny Nicholson. She is a pretty good voice actor.
Meter attendant: "Excuse me miss, this is a no parking zone. I'm afraid you'll have to move your car"
Allison Cain: **"TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN..."**
As she is being towed
XD
She really does love to sue her way out of everything huh
Addison Karen
I was going to like this, but its at 69 right now
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I had no idea Werewolf erotica was such a cut throat literary genre.
ikr indie erotica authors can live or die by their networking oof
Its a dog eat out dog world out there
As somebody who has never read werewolf erotica and has no interest in it, I was still hoping that the leading author in this presumably niche genre was not insane. I just wanted to root for somebody that specific.
I don't even know what had me click on the video. I was vaguely aware of Werewolf Erotica as a genre I assumed it was a close offshoot of Vampire Erotica but was unaware that I'd clicked on a video about the legal drama behind the genre.
@@pappajudas9267 I've got to be honest here, despite my interest in copyright law and contrary previous claims I made, I saw a thumbnail with an attractive woman wearing a wolf costume and I was hoping for some werewolf erotica.
Me five minutes in: "Wow, better be careful here or she might DMCA claim you."
Two minutes later: "Ah, I see you can't teach an old dog lover new tricks."
Okay... A+ pun 😂
It may be 4 years later, Lindsay may not post on this platform, but when the alpha says you drive engagement YOU DRIVE ENGAGEMENT
Fite me m8
"Lindsay Ellis is a menace, A THREAT TO MY CHILD," NEEDS to be a review quote on the next book.
She should write a horror novel and use it as a quote on that one XD
Omg that needs to go on the back cover
I agree
I want a t shirt with that
Imagine stating that the person you're accusing of copyright infringement "significantly transformed" the original work.
Thats probably why youtube decided not to act on it too, lol.
@@PSadvance you have to love a self own
I had a good laugh at that too. like "Not only did you steal my work but you censored the naughty words! That's just crossing a line!"
also her "lawyer" uses the phrase "suspicous in the least" which is a freudian slip. what she thought she wanted to say was "suspicious at least", but what poked through was an echo of "not suspicious in the least"
The fact that I got an ad that opens with "Lemons, lemons, lemons!" on a video about wolf erotica is just so hilarious to me!
Addison: "This video does NOT fall under fair use because it is not transformative!"
Addison 5 seconds later: "This video SIGNIFICANTLY transformed my work!"
Engaging reply...
Engaging reply...
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Feed algorithm, FEED THE ALGORITHM, *RETURN THE WITCH!!!*
Self-Own, Trump style
"Regrettably, we both are public figures."
You've heard it here first, folks! You can write fanfiction *about* Addison Cain, consequence free!
No no no, u have to cover ur ass my guy, ofc nothing stopping u from making "Caddison Ain" characters but u didn't hear it from me
You joke, but there would be Addison Cain and Lindsay Ellis yuri on paheal soon.
There is nothing we can do about it.
@@muddi900 As long as Lindsay's the "Alpha", I think we can live with that...
Not her name. Say your oc is inspired by her. But it’s definitely her.
enemies to lovers slow burn
All these shenanigans started because....... Addison Cain think she owns the copyrights to heterosexuality .....
LMFAO
I am still watching these two videos for entertainment. Certainly my favorite media reviewer of all time, and I absolutely will always miss you, Lindsay.