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I remember when the set list was revealed, so many youtube channels saying the set was garbage and no one was going to waste their time on it. This hobby is wild 😂
I don’t think I saw a single person say this set would even be decent, it’s crazy out here
FACTS f all the pokeyoutbers they are garbage loser clowns. F their opinion. I was hype for twilight and I am for shrouded fable/stellar crown
Its really too early to be speculating on this set anyway its all for views
I remembered that. I myself don't like the set for not having connection and terrible SIR of the mask. but look how the turn tables. lol
The "investor community" have totally lost sight of what makes Pokémon investable to begin with, you see so many videos going on about how the market will crash if they do reprints of sets still in rotation and won't somebody please think of my booster boxes in my bedroom closet.....the players and collectors are what makes this work as an investment LONG TERM. Wanting them to not reprint during the games rotation period is absolutely nuts to me. Players need to be able to access the cards to play and collectors need to be able to chase the collectables then your little stash of boxes will go up over time. This idea of expecting standard legal boxes to appreciate in months is just unbelievably short sighted.
@richardworrall9373 100% these poke toober vestments channels are biohazard trash
yeah fr it’s all about the long game in like 1/2 or even more 😭 it’s crazy how people expect outcomes in a few months
Metazoo is the perfect example of a card game that relied exclusively on investors.
I was in pokerevs comment section when people were saying it was going to be a bad set, I told them they were biased towards the masks, but there were cards good in competitive coming, really good illustration rares, fantastic Sirs with carmine and perrin and of course a dope ass greninja which people I guess forget is super beloved and more than enough to carry this set. Low and behold over a month later and the haters were wrong OFC! 😂
Why is every talking up Twilight Masquerade like it's not the most recent set? Obviously, it's going to be more popular based solely on circumstances. No one is going to have this opinion a year from now, I pretty much guarantee it.
@@saculyelhsa1653 in denial still eh
@didjen181 I'm just rational. I'll wait for a special set with a shiny greninja that makes this one redundant like what happened to the charizard from obsidian. Not to mention we have a rocket set, a pikachu set and an evoskies 2.0 set coming up
@@saculyelhsa1653100 percent with you on that. Everything is the next best thing until the next best thing.
Yeah that's not rational that's cope. People have been acting like this set was irredeemable garbage and worthless. If it really was THAT bad, being new wouldn't matter.
@krisv1038 I never thought it was a bad set. I love Greninja and I played the DLC, so I have an appreciation for Ogerpon, but I also dont think its "one of the best sets". I just know how Pokémon operates, and they're going to print another one, especially since Greninja is competitive, and even more especially because Pokemon sees how popular the SIR has become. This is a middle of the road set. A lot of the current interest is being carried by the competitive side, and that'll really show next year when all the hyped up year 3 sets are factored in.
The greninja will remain expensive for the sheer fact of how hard it is to pull …. It’s better to pay $800 for a psa 10 copy than open $2000 worth of packs and not pull anything
I admit that I was one of those people that didn't think too highly about Twilight masquerade. Impossible to get everything right all the time.
I’ve heard a lot of people say that the Greninja is the new Blaziken
Well for the kids nowadays... it more popular for them than the old people who grew up with pokemon
better than blaziken esp it is way more popular
Mistie and I both think that all of S&V is awesome! It is crazy though to hear the Greninja comparison to the Moonbaby!
@@pokepair23 Agreed and... AGREED! lol
I still don’t like the set :)
I told people that if u played the game you would like the set and the game sold record numbers.
I have receipts. I totally think TM tied with PE as the best SV set outside of 151.
I agree people need to relax when it comes to looking so far ahead for the “next best thing”. But I actually believe picking sets is not only viable but more profitable than investing an equal amount of money into each set. While you may miss out on the occasional high end set you’ll probably hit most of them. On top of that (and arguably more important) is the idea that you are not investing ANY money into all the lower end sets that don’t move much for years and years. In other words none of your money is dead money. Whereas if you invest in every set, a good majority of your money is (relatively) dead.
I don't know... Pretty much everywhere I go (and I go to a lot of places looking for Pokémon cards often) I see full shelves of twilight masquerade ETBs and booster boxes.
I hear you but also this is the first set in SV that i cant find anywhere for under $600 a case this fast after release. It does seem to be drying up faster and rising in price faster than any other set. Also, we havent seen a single card reach the mid $200s raw in SV era and hold like the greninja. Something to think about is all i am saying.
@NostalgiaNomics I have a feeling shrouded fable's greninja will devalue the twilight masquerade greninja. I think it's a better looking card and will be more readily available. At least for those who pre-order.
Alex it’s never too late to jump on my bandwagon that twilight is the best scarlet and violet booster box set so far and is ultra prism 2.0 👀
Respectfully disagree but glad you enjoy it so much. I personally enjoy the top 5 hits from temporal over the top 5 hits of twilight.
@@ethanluptonhas nothing to do with how I enjoy it. I’m talking objectively. How can a set with a crazy greninja chase along with a bunch of waifu cards and an eevee and Chaney character rares be worse than a set whose most popular cards are just new forms of the legendary dogs and a card with a Gengar in the art but isn’t even a Gengar card lol. Not to mention the chase ain’t even the same cost 🤷♂️
@@didjen181 I am not judging the set based on prices. Just on what I like about the sets. I’ve opened both sets and that’s just my opinion. The SIRs as a whole are better than the SIRs from Twilight. Terra Greninja is overrated.
@@ethanlupton you are speaking based on opinion.
@@didjen181 you’re comment says you’re speaking objectively but you obviously state your point from a biased and personal standpoint. Which is fine. That’s why everyone has their own favourite sets.
I appreciate you calling out everyone who was talking bad about this set before release! The flip was wild!
He was doing the same
I typically just get 1 or 2 booster boxes of each set, but saw a great deal on a sealed case and pulled the trigger.
You are right everyone trashed this set, and I started thinking maybe I shouldn’t have bought a case. Glad I did now!
Was lucky enough to be in Tokyo when the Japanese set was released, bought a couple of booster boxes to preview it and I enjoyed it. I still really love the Tatsugiri card in it. It's a fun set to rip.
It was trashed by many so I was able to pick up several booster boxes for $85 each shipped with taxes. Pokemon always pays off in long run. Even trash sets.
I'm still very down on it but the low pull rates and Eevee AR is obviously bringing a lot of attraction to the set.
a huge chase of a very popular pokemon, waifus and beautiful IRs, what else can we ask for lol
I was one of the people who thought TM was a mid tier set and to be fair I still think it is. It's doing well but that doesn't change my mind on set. I disagree that we can't look at a set before hand and make assumptions. I would argue sv heating up because of hit rates which means higher card values. I believe if pull rates stay the same the last half of SV does even better . I would be willing to bet one of the next 3 main sets will be huge for sv and bigger eventually then PE or TM.
The Perrin and carmine SIR are two of the most beautiful card art I have ever seen
yes, TM will likely not be the top 3 set of SV, but likely number 4, akin to CR
N2, been away for a little, great vid as usual, keep it up.
Perrin 220 and husuian growlithe are amazing cards as a set, I also really love the scream tail ex
Fantastic video Alex. A lot of good reminders in this.
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Appreciate it brother. Hope all is well!
I'm still bearish on TM - if I miss out on this one - so be it. I'll let everyone else have their fun.
A really pokemon collector never said “I will miss out on this one” lol
Totally agree. At first I thought this set was mediocre. I still bought a couple cases to hold because it’s what I do. Now I’m hooked on finding that greninja 😂. That card 100% grew on me. Glad I have a few cases sealed for the long term though.
I pulled the greninja in plano tx from card, collectibles and games. From a blister
Than went home, bought a booster box. And pulled THE carmine.
Tons of other pulls like iron thorns, growlithe, etc.
I really want that eevee card.
I opened so many blisters and packs. I gave up and bought a 40 dollar psa 10 japanese eevee.
I didnt want to bid for a psa 10 or near mint english eevee. I just wanted the card.
Very similar to Paldean fates, 4-5 strong cards up front. Not a huge fan of the ogerpons, but they look original and new. Still think Paldea Evolved is the best Scarlet and Violet set with 151.
I didn’t like it when I saw the spoilers. I under ordered it. It was a mistake on my part. It’s a good set.
I hear you. Im sure there will be other entry points for it though.
@@NostalgiaNomics Depends on a reprint I guess. Allocation prices are always the cheapest as we're a store. Distro charges near market for restocks. Down to our last BB case of TWMen.
AOFTA - Hey man, are you investing in this set? I'm not massively confident in some of the newer sets so was thinking 3 boxes? WHat about you if any?
Should I wait for a reprint to pick up a case or two?
I confess I said it was trash!.. I still think it's a mid tier set however the numbers of breaks don't lie for this set. The people have spoken, Greninja is now $750 in a PSA 10... absolutely wild !
Twilight Masquerade is awesome, but the next set Shrouded Fable is absolutely horrible. The artwork is so bad, nothing stands out, and there is so much black and pink colors.
Gotta buy ‘em all
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I’m enjoying every AR I pull may not be the Greninja but the art just looks good doesn’t matter if it’s my favorite Pokemon or not the art is still popping
This is bait. With an incoming Eeveelutions set and a team rocket set you're better off saving your money for eevee heroes 2.0 and Evolving skies 2.0 when the set releases. Then we're getting a team rocket japanese and english
Bro I just sold a psa 10 greninja for 800 bucks and picked up a twilight ETB from GameStop the last one on the shelf and pulled another Greninja shit is wild best day of my life
That's absolutely crazy!! Congrats man. Can't best that 🥳
There is still TM on Smoke & Mirrors for 105 a box.
Definitely some good points
I joined an investing group recently, a popular one at that and 90% of their options were wrong on the Greninja
O Ya lol... which group was that?
Invest in the newest set? That’s not wise because they always drop as soon as the next set or the set afterwards comes. Everyone says ohh but it’s, “short print.” Yea I’ve been back in the collecting game for not very long and I’ve heard this too often and then they print more.
Well see where it all lands at rhe end of its cycle.
The one constant that stayed true is people didnt like the mask cards. And they still dont l.
The difference is that the greninja pull rate is close to alt arts. That hemp swung the set.
Have half a generation to go!
P.s. i lkke the mask more tha. I did when they were revealed. A dlc promo video help explain the character to me. It did seem odd at first
You nailed it good sir 😎😎Casual collectors dictate the market
I never trashed it, I was standing on the shiny hill!
I still prefer Temporal Forces before paldea evolve, and pokemon 151.
Nah you trippin on this one G.
No one really knows anything 😂
Where can I find good price cases of s&v uk?:)
I just want the Infernape
People, just Get a booster pack of every set and you’ll be fine. You’re not gonna get rich, very low risk
I’m going on the record and trashing up coming team rocket , could I be wrong 🤔
I hate that set. Somehow I have 2 booster boxes. Not upset.
They are popular to open because of how cheap they are selling them. I still refuse to buy these. I’m waiting for team rocket 🚀
I thought the idea of tag team was weird, turns out it was accepted lol. I don't care what people think, nothing makes sense in the short term. 2 cases per set minimum. Not to big not to small.
This set will tank when the greninja tanks when the new greninja promo comes out
10-4, no one knows what sets will out perform the preconceived expectation prior to release.
i'm still skipping this set
rocket is where my money goes
Am I missing something?? Yesterday, I just went to my local card shop and they had like 30 of these big booster boxes for $110 each. The online Pokemon shop has this booster for $161. And finally TCGPlayer has these boxes for $110.
What are you talking about sold out??
Stores have them but distributors are either sold out or on very low limit orders because they are running low. Also the stores who price them high are in stock sure but the stores who list at $95 $100 all mostly all sold out.
It's almost like saying well there are stores that have XY booster boxes available so they arnt sold out lol
It’s the newest set. Of course it is the most opened , most requested and the least copies are on the market. Let’s see how it’s doing in 6 months when eevee and team rocket sets have come out.
I SAID IT WAS GOOD
I didn't thrash it at all. It's not because all of you CZcamsrs thrashed it that we all think like you! I legit thought to myself its not as bad as they make it seems to be. Just like I believe many of the underdogs in sword and shield is great like Battle styles I always liked that set.
I still think twilight sucks but that makes it so much easier to buy it, hold it and resell it for myself
Does anyone have a good distributor for europe? I am looking but cant find anything..
Sorry i do not..
Alex can you make a video on eevee heroes 2.0 ? It'll be Japan's high class deck for this year
Im not much of a Japanese guy sorry...
Too late to invest in META or NDVA? Honest question, give us your takes on stocks
Never too late!
I honestly don’t understand this set. I admit I thought it would do horrible. I still don’t know why everyone likes it. I don’t get it. I think the greninja art looks like someone stepped on a tube of toothpaste and it came squirting out. The masks are boring art to me. The bear card is also boring. But this is all just proof that like you say I can’t get it all right with set picking. People like what they like and I won’t always understand it. I can understand the Eevee card, Carmine, the growlithe trainer pair cards. So it’s not like all cards look awful to me but I don’t know what so many people are hard chasing in this set. But they are. So I have to adapt to the market even if I don’t understand.
Going to trash it a bit more until the price rises some more. Then I'll buy it and complain about holding heavy bags
Personally, outside of the Greninja, TM is garbage. I still believe that. It’s for the birds.
I got two etb and two booster boxes unopened
You need to do a video with these shelves empty and you will surely get the most comments youve had lmao. So much confusion! Or just a single item lmfaoo
Haha this is a good idea. And actually, its the perfect time for it since i will have all of the shelves cleared here soon! Will Do!!!
I will admit it. I did not like this set. I’m a fan now and it’s not just because of greninja either.
How is close Twilight to Evolving Skies? Closer than any other Sword & Shield sets?
lol no way. TM isn’t even brilliant stars.
*luxury hobby
Better buy Infernape IR before it skyrockets 📈🔥
Folks 🗣
I already got 25 boxes of twm. Id say i got lucky.
i have 2 cases of TM but i still think it sucks 😆
Should buy a case of twilight at $750?
That sounds high..
Masquerade is trash. Pure and simple. Rather keep my investment for upcoming Eeveeloutions and Team Rocket
Soo, you’re saying sell all of my collection and buy Twilight? lol jk. Thanks for the info
Dollar Cost Average into every set
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With pokémon center ETBs still available, how could anyone write off all of twilight as non-investable?!?
ETBs aren't the best investment, that's why.
@@MrToco23 Never said they were, but PC ETBs are never a bad investment. I’m just saying it’s an item that furthers the point that the set is investable in different ways.
@@benjaffe9428 I never said they were a bad investment, see how that works :)
How much should a case cost?
What do you mean? Like what I think is a healthy market price or what you should pay?
@NostalgiaNomics when a new edition comes out and you have the opportunity to buy in before it's popular. What would be the cost for a case? I got a few cases at $600 which included tax and shipping. Felt like I got a good deal but who knows lol
@MieXuL Ya that's not a bad. Usually I look for somewhere between 500 to 550 on the open market but it doesn't always get that low. Anything 600 or under is still a good entry point
More like Twilight Cashquerade am I right
Yup those mask cards are thrash. Lol but I use them in the tcg who knew
Masquerade is not a good set. The Pokémon community right now is so desperate for something to chase that they have latched onto the Greninja. Nothing worthy of mention has come out of the SV era main sets so far. 18 months from now when Dragon set is out, the Team Rocket set is out the tera eeveelutions set is out, and we all look back at the uncontested amazing alt arts from the swsh and S&M era, we will look back at masquerade and say, yep thats a mediocre set.
Nah I knew Greninja was going be the new Moonbreon, I’ve got like 5 at PSA 😂
i never trashed it, I was standing on the shining hill of twilight masquerade.
I'm happy I got a case of twilight for 545€ in Europe it's pretty difficult to get cases below 570€ or even below 600€
I was saying from the beginning that I think it's the second best set so far, Greninja is popular and the card looks amazing and especially the IRs are incredible in the set, just compare the values of the regular IRs from twilight to temporal is mind blowing, TWM has so much value in it, combined with amazing looking cards, many popular pokemon (Greninja, Growlithe, Infernape, Eevee etc.), a slightly lower printrun and really hard pull rates I couldn't believe how negative people where on this set.
I don't like the masks too, but the rest of the set is really good
Ya the masks still have not caught on but i agree the other cards are great!
Folks 2-6 😮
because the CZcams echo chamber is pointless lmao
they dont know anything outside of the TCG space nor the popularity elsewhere in the franchise
Omg give it a rest! I’m guessing you have shares in some stores. Jesus Rudy light 😂
I’m out 🎉
I'm just going to say Greninja has to be one of the most overrated pokemon of all time, aside from maybe Lucario. And don't get me started on those grotesque, tacky looking tera hats. The hard part of investing in this stuff is that I can't invest based on my own superior taste, but instead I have to put myself into the minds of the unwashed masses.
Goofy ahh hobby
I’m still trashing it. Trash! 🗑️
This still is garbage, Its so many time for this set, Stelar Crown can be intresting
WRONG! I've never once.... Not once gave I said anything about this set let alone talk shit about it. I also have a brain and use it so I'm completely out of place for pokemon. Lol. And Fuckin graninja gang yo!