iPhone 14 Pro Programmed To Reject Repair - Teardown and Repair Assessment
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- čas přidán 16. 09. 2022
- Based on my testing with the iPhone 14 Pro it doesn't seem 3rd party repair is viable on this device, despite Apples introduction of the "Self Service Repair" program this year.
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I tried pointing this out for a decade..... nobody cares. I don't mean this as an insult to you. Or your content. Or to our industry. It's sad. but nobody cares.
Thank you for your continued work & dedication to informing users just how little freedom they have left.
Literally underrated comment.. You know.. Sometimes I dont agree with some of your views, but I love your content, even if i dont understand it completely, and I thank you for your work for self repair rights, if you read this.. thank you Louis..
Puppets just moving to the strings pulled by Apple...
Nobody cares because Americans don’t care about anything that doesn’t impact them individually. They aren’t willing to slightly inconvenience themselves for some change. That’s the reality
A lot peeps do man. It's that the level of impacts is different for all people and they don't really push for it that hard.
Well you are right. The only think I really care about is the price divided the time in use without any problems. If the number is consistent and acceptable I would buy something from Apple again. If the phones are irreparable and last only about 1-2 years then I'd move away from Apple or bought decent used ones for lowered price.
When Apple removes charger and headphones in their package because "to avoid environment impact in the world" but then make their iPhones unfixable which harms the environment if they have been bricked by repairs. Apple gets away for the things they did bad.
*cough* greenwashing *cough*
Apple should be my death note look at the mess it made bruh.
There is a plastic filler inplace of sim tray for esim models. Now, they have space that why not headphone jack?
Edit: Yeah yeah, I know they need to sell their Airpods. Who in the world doesn't know this lol. Please stop explaining this to me.
Their fans don’t care unfortunately and the so called “Tech Tubers” with a more impactful voice are afraid of slamming Apple on that out of fear of losing revenue because anything with Apple gets so many clicks for them and fear of getting black listed by Apple from receiving their invites, their first hands on, samples, and etc.
But yet they sell their charging blocks and headphones separately greatly increasing package waste. Just a ploy for my favorite company to make more money smh
Remember when you could easily pop the back off of a phone and replace the battery if you needed to? Superior design.
Fairphone, Pine64 and Purism are some brands that I can think of that still do this. Fairphone and Pine64 are also both very repairable and offer de placement parts. Purism had promised replacement parts afaik.
For laptops, Framwork is the way to go.
@@jarnobot
Is Dell not buying Framework PCs?
If that's the case, it will be the end of them.
@@ldorman No, Framework is and stays independent. I think you're referring to Dell's newly announced laptop that uses a similar, repairable design. It's clearly been directly influenced by Framework and that's a great thing. It means the industry finally starts to have some shifts in the right direction.
There is still a long way to go though.
@@jarnobot don't forgot about Xiaomi
i don't know other brands but have repaired my Redmi note 4 ranging from charging port, IC chip
funny and serious things to know about this 5 years old 2017phone that it has Android 13 custom to support from community
actually the eu is prepearing a law which forces manufacturers to build their products like this, so we may be able to replace batteries easier soon
I was a real Apple fanboy back in the 80s and 90s, from pre OS6 days right up to OSX, but I switched away from their products right after the introduction of OS10.2. I haven't purchased a single Apple product since, and that includes iPhones, iPads, and all the rest. After seeing this, I remain confident that my decision was a good one for me. I like to think that the customer should always come first, and being able to repair your own gear is something I consider a critically important feature, especially when the replacement costs are so high.
The apple -11 plus?
What caused 10.2 to be the straw that broke the camels back? I think on my iBook that was either Panther or Jaguar? I didn't really like those releases... Panther more. But you really missed the Snow Leopard release. It was amazing.
@@jaywhite15_AL I don't think there was any one straw, but several. Apple's claim to compatibility was one, especially when third party software made specifically for the Mac OS would often break after a major OS update. That told me that even compatibility within the ecosystem was questionable. Another was watching what happened to some of the independent software makers who had committed to building applications for the Mac OS. One I remember particularly was Watson or Sherlock or something like that. Finally, is was the "cult" of Mac. After a time, I realized that adherents, myself included, were treating a corporation a bit like a religion--anything they did was awesome, even when it wasn't. Critical thinking had been shelved.. Once I ditched Apple, I just owned a computer and got things done. Also, weirdly, I found that software on the PC actually continued to work, for the most part, over multiple iterations of the OS.
Can confirm I am now having the same issue with the cameras, going to try downgrading to IOS 16.0 and see what happens. Amazing video Hugh!
Hey what'sup repair Guru ?
When will the next video come out?
hey prg, just watched your video a few days ago. glad to see you here too :)
downgrading to 16? are you running unreleased software?
HI~
I’m a “Certified Apple Technician” at Best Buy but I learn more about repair in your videos than my non existent training LOL
LMFAO I wouldnt give anything to any idiot working at best buy to do anything with , much less pay for it. Best Buy is dumpster dummies buddy. Thanks for at least admitting it.
so whats the secret to replacing a part and having it work? Does apple have some special tool on a mac that resets the serial numbers of parts the logic board recognizes?
@@cranbers basically
@@cranbers It's like the secret ingredient on fast food chains. Why would they effing tell you that? lmao it's confidential
@Will Reese That's crazy. But I am taking a guess they wouldn't allow the secret sauce because it might leak out if people making minimum wage / not truly trusted were given access. It is puzzling why apple would do this but its clear its all about $$$. and new phone sales. If everyone keeps their phone for 5 years it breaks they keep it for 2 more that's a lot of loss revenue and new phone sales. Pretty sad.
No headphone jack, no charger, no SIM tray, no noise cancellation, no touch ID, but more expensive than all the other models. Buying an iPhone is like buying a bathing suit, the less you get, the more you pay.
My 12 will be my last iPhone. I’m not downgrading the ability to travel.
Phones have noise cancellation?
@@JJ2badlife iPhones does not have noise cancellation? I thought all flagship phones have them... I mean, that two microphone design that cancels the background noises while you are talking...
Also no SD-card slot or notification LED.
@@markm0000 yea i mean unless u live in the us (seems likely) it’s different in other countries
What a legend. Thank you so much for the straightforward information.
I feel like one of the best things they could do for the environment would be to not make people feel the need to upgrade each year.
yes
They don’t really care about the environment tho, it’s just cost cutting and profits I’m pretty sure
tell it to my iphone 7 plus, maybe ill upgrade this year
Which they did this year, like seriously, why on earth would you upgrade from iPhone 13 (pro) to 14 (pro) ?
@@Homme_De_Kro-mignon If you have something older than a 13 and you were going to upgrade anyways, why not a 14 instead of a 13? But 13 to 14? That's an incremental change. That assumes that a large percentage of 14 buyers will be 13 owners. I don't believe that.
"I might have spent over $3,000 on these phones, but I feel like they're not even mine."
Wow. Profound. Great job, Apple.
Funny enough about all these repair tech channels they push the narrative that Apple are anti repair. When myself being a phone repair technician. I can say that iPhone are way easier than Androids.
1. The flagship android phones are extremely expensive to get replacement parts. They range from 300-700 for a screen. Compared to Apple parts that are 70-200.
2. Apple is easier to fix, when you need to swap a screen. All you need to do is replace the screen and move the proximity sensor.. With Android you literally have to take apart the entire phone and put it in a new frame. This runs the risk of parts like volume button, speaker, charging port and many more being damage.
Yet everyone pushes the narrative that Apple is worse. Which is a lie
Just wait for it...
It will inevitably come that phones will be leased in a similar manner to car finance arrangements.
Considering US pricing is unchanged the 3k price tag for two phones is more reflective of currency markets. A euro is worth less than a dollar when it’s usually the other way around. More like blame your government rather than apple on that one.
@@malfaroangel3896 did you even watch the video? Not arguing that replacement parts on some android phones can be expensive, but even with the cheaper iPhone screen and easier placement, it won't entirely work as the screen and many components are serialized and artificially break functionality, disincentivising 3rd-party and forcing customers to go to apple with their higher repair costs (or cost for their repair equipment) to get their phone fully working again as described in the video.
Most Android phones don't even do this.
It is the exact reason why all proprietary products have failed and Apple is next.
Thank you so much for this video!
Just had the back glass on my wife's old iPhone 12 Pro Max replaced the other week. Some guy at the mall did it in a kiosk in the mall for like $100 lol. Took him like 30 minutes too! I was blown away. He removed the glass like it was the easiest thing in the world.
Well done for documenting what Apple are doing and holding them to account for these scummy business practices.
They don't care about customers though, all they want is money
@@Apple_Beshy Yep. Nothing less than the governments can stop the trillion dollar company. Even that's debatable.
Have not changed from their proprietary start days..
I doubt it's only crApple.
Willing to bet android phones have similar bricking functions to push you into another purchase.
@@amzarnacht6710 got proof or just talking nonsense? The Samsung Galaxy S22 is much more repairable for example - czcams.com/video/8cilztfYgF8/video.html
Very super content bro thanks for you effort for this video 🙏
Thanks for sharing bro, God bless you 🙏
This is nutty. It makes me miss the Samsung Note 2. I kept that thing going for about 6 years - I replaced the charging port, power button, vibration motor, the SIM card/Micro SD card board, and the battery a couple times - all without having to solder anything. It was the most repair-friendly device I have ever had. Really great design.
And parts were cheap. I had the same phone for a couple years and even original parts were dirt cheap compared to today's phones.
RIP Samsung note. And the Samsung dev phone that came rooted.
You should look into a FairPhone.
Same story with Samsung s8. Have had this phone for 6 years now, replaced battery, charging port, power buttons and still phone serves me really well. Parts were really cheap too as well as well as ease of changing them. Speed of my phone is lacking for me now and I've decided to get oneplus Android phone. Some friends tried to convince me to buy Apple but seeing this video I see I've made a good decision.
And Samsung lost 3 grand from you because of it. Good for you though but I agree with other people who say most people just don’t care. These things aren’t going to change until we actually start running out of raw materials.
Apple's enduring commitment to being petty and facetious has given me so much entertainment throughout the years. From fake environmentalism, to booby trapped updates, to hanging on to the lightning port, to this shit. 🏆
And so many blindly consum their things only as a flex for "look how much I paid" for locked down software and thee most anti consumer company on earth! It's sad.
It's pure arrogance and a sense that they can do precisely what they want with no consequence in terms of sales and financial reward. And it's difficult to say they're wrong when there are people out there who would buy a pint glass with a turd in it providing it had an Apple logo etched on the front.
You are the king wizard of smart , you go kiddo! Your one man crusade to not buy apple products is working so well my stock never goes down. Spoken like a true little worm who has low-self-esteem and insecurity issues. People like you have given me entertainment value for the last 30 years with your incessant whining and corporation hating. All enviornmetalism is fake but it takes a bit of thinking to use it to your advantage while shutting up the retards who believe co2 will end the world at the same time. The mere fact they whine about no charger shows just how much of a fraud they all are anyway. Nobody GAF what phone you use or what communists you voted for. Go back in the basement where you belong , kiddo.
@@someonesomewhere18 As do nearly all American corporations. Classic American capitalism. While Apple should be rightfully criticized, let's not look past the shitty things other corporations do.
Google, Microsoft, and especially Facebook all suck up user data to sell to other companies and even the government, so you can be spied upon.
It's easy to say "well at least Android phones let you repair! Apple sux!!!". But the same folks will hesitate to call out other corporations' shittiness.
Yep because iSheeps love being stolen money from
It would be so interesting to see the reaction from apple, if you just exchange the logic boards of two identical iPhones and go to an apple store to ask what is wrong (with the software issues) and they don't find anything except original apple-parts. You could tell them afterwards, that you just swapped the parts.
I wonder how much their reaction will resemble this one: czcams.com/video/o2_SZ4tfLns/video.html
Problem with that is the logic board is serialized as well as the simcard tray and display. The system Apple uses has the serials logged together, so they would be able to determine that there was a swap. The reason the parts from Apple are able to function is the Apple core systems update the database with the new serials to match the components that weren't replaced. When the phone connects to the internet, it phones home and updates the parts list.
That's the loophole for the Apple Self Repair- when the parts are sent to you, the part serials are updated.
@@susanfender307
Thats really interesting, i didn't know that!
But i really want to see the apple employees face and his (or apples) arguement, when he realizes that there is nothing wrong with the device, everything is original apple hardware, but there are still the restrictions in the usability of the device.
Will he/she update the component registration ? Will he/she lie and say there are third party parts in the device ? Will they refuse to update the registration even though every single part of the phone is from apple?
@@fruchtzwerg2209 They would deny service in warranty for the repair since it had unauthorized parts
@@susanfender307 he'd be bringing in two phones together with all the authorized parts just in the wrong order
damn. the time spent and the phone tinkering just for this relatively short video blows my mind. I don't even have the patience to delete some files in my phone sometimes when it's running out of storage.
The iPhone not recognizing ITS OWN CAMERA is just something else
Yeah the iphone makes the part actually sign in to the CPU as a check sum, if it does not match, it will reject.
@@JPSimen Although it's still scummy and should be illegal that would make sense when the part is plugged into a different logic board since the recognised parts would be different. But the phone shouldn't just forget its own original camera.
@@MrMoon-hy6pn It is done to reject 4th party vendors and make you find Apple Authorized repair. Nothing more than money grab. Most of the time, apple will just make you buy a whole other device.
@@JPSimenprobably part of their new procedure to try to brick phones that have ever had parts installed by someone other than apple until you pay whatever they want to charge you. Even if you reinstall the original parts.
Pretty soon they will build in a tiny amount of flash memory into every component, a small battery and a pressure switch that instructs every component in the phone to permanently brick if the phone is ever opened until you take it in to apple to be fixed. Or just fill the entire interior of the phone with resin or something.
I'd love to see you call Apple support playing stupid about the message, and seeing if they can pair it back up with the device similar to how their self repair system works, then escalate further and further telling them what you did, considering the messages say they're not authentic parts, scrutinize them and call their bluffs on video.
More content out of the $3000 worth of anti consumer devices!
This needs to be the top comment!! PLEASE DO THIS
YES. Please!
The one who will be able to figure out how to make the parts authentic will be a genius, I'm sure there's like a beta code or something that make the parts working on all phone that you could inject...
@@leomon32 it's software that makes the phone recognize the parts as authentic. I work at an authorized apple service provider. Even when using OEM parts for a repair the phone rejects them to we run it through calibration software.
Work for apple. Not how this works. Would need full replacement of rear
Good video Hugh! Very helpful with understanding assembly complexity.
Have a US MaxPro. Is it similar internally as the Pro shown in video? If not, how different is it?
Noticed the different antennas but didn’t catch if there is an independent R/F module, need to verify! Testing my MaxPro and 2022 iPad Pro in a High level Criminal Hacker environment shows hardware bypass Backdoor exists built in by design. Thought to be using WiFi/Bluetooth that bypasses User iOS. Suspicion is modified Bluetooth. However, Criminals have and are able to broadcast different frequencies suggesting variable controlled R/F turning the device into a R/F generator. Hence, R/F section may not be separate WiFi and Bluetooth which would effect R/F module design. Any thoughts?
Upgrading to 16.2 doesn’t fix as it’s clearly built in hardware and supported by software. Hence, the only fix is to change out the Backdoor module to a Privacy Secure module if possible.
Marty Didier
Thank you for the info and hopefully in the future we will get what we pay for not what they decide for you
I love how they say the removed the charger for "Environment" and then sell a charger in a separate box which has more packaging
And attempt to block 3rd party chargers, my iPad shows a “device not compatible” message sometimes.
It's fair to call out other companies too
@@keonxd8918 but they did it first, that's all that matters.
@@hwimn_2293 so what if they did first? Companies didn't need to follow but they did. Shit take right there
@@keonxd8918 Ok Consoomer
Man, you're doing something helpful for humanity, for the people, which is getting rare everyday. Keep it up!
Thank a lot for this video :)
Thanks 4 sharing bro
This trend is not just happening in electronics. Automobiles are trying to lock you into their own eco-systems as well. I remember when you could just by a jug of coolant at any auto parts store. But now the pink coolant for my Toyota can only be purchased from their dealerships. Sure there is something similar at the parts store but it's missing several ingredients. I've also heard of someone replacing their radio with an after-market version only to find the engine no longer runs. Turned out the engine computer was part of the radio in that model.
What!?
How can a car detect what kind of liquid i put in as coolant
@@joel9002 Its not that, he's saying the coolant they sell at the auto parts store is an inferior product and gets worst performance than what the dealership gives you, apparently.
Well for cars it's understandable as the genuine parts are needed to perform up to safety and ecological government standards.
This is true depending on the car, for instance certain high performance automobiles need specific fluids that are usually only available from the dealership, and using 3rd party fluids will simply degrade the engine at worst or have it perform under spec at best.
Back when Apple's shares were counted in cents... I used to fight with my peers about how much better Apple's computers were over any PC. It very much felt like backing the underdog, but even tho their machines cost a lot more, you knew they would last a very long time. Now here we are, 30 years on, and Apple is a trillion dollar company, built on forced obsolescence and engorged landfill. They should be ashamed. Bring on legislated repair/recycle laws, USA.
i don't think the lobbyists would agree with your legislation.
@@akhil8280 We're starting to see legislation introduced aimed at making tech companies accountable. Forcing Apple to adopt USBC. Forcing Apple to re-introduce a power plug. Sure, Apple wont like these moves. But "the people" will.
@@johnlarro6872 They're made by EU not US
US is puppet of corporates
@@pranaym3859 Yes - but as other legislatures start imposing conditions on Apple doing business - it's likely going to affect the products sold in the US, too. And - even in the US, there's been signs of a push to reverse the non-repairable nature of modern tech. Whether that will ever be legislative change - time will tell... I know the US places little value on consumer protection.
That was back when Apple was a great company, they built their brand by being the better manufacturer. Their products were better, higher quality, and lasted longer. The company pushed the market forward and was the center of innovation, they were the ones everyone had to scramble to copy. Today, Apply hasn't done a single innovative thing in 13 years with growth driven by the annual forced consumption of marginally improved and more expensive versions of the same product.
Hello, amazing video! Just a question, the inner frame of the housing is made of aluminum or stainless steel?
I began my electronics career 60 years ago with the old vacuum tube radios and musical amps as transistors just started to come into use . I've fiddled around with these phones but certainly do not have the patience and ability to manage the tiny construction of these devices . I really am in awe at the ease you exhibit tearing down and reassembling these things !
your name is very awesome
It's a shame the new generation of repairers won't experience what you had experienced - the hot swaps and easy repairs are becoming a thing of the past...
How old are you mate?
Just need the right tools tbh. I've no doubt you'd be able to tear these down as well with a little patience and fiddling.
Hes looking thru a lens. Probably filming with a macro lens
9:37 I think it's obvious here that during the install of the OS/Update it burns in the ID of the camera into a peripheral device registry and the reason you loose functionality when swapping is because the ID's don't match what's in the registry. So, when swapping hardware and OS Update/reinstall is needed to update the approve device registry which it thankfully seems is created by using the currently attached devices as the base when installing or updating the OS.
Imagine you buy a pre-built PC, except you can't swap any part out if it fails. This is absolutely insane and anti-consumer to the Nth degree. And then they even have the audacity to obfuscate everything by claiming their self-repair option is actually viable.
Also, if microsoft said you must buy ALL software from the Microsoft Store in the mall and not over the web, or at Best Buy, or Office Max, etc, and all software companies must pay MS a 15% fee for everything, u would get people screaming but for some reason, apple users and developers say More Please!!
I can't believe google does the same.
Isn't that what is the macs, all-in-ones, micro desktop towers (HP speaker-shaped PC and chinese super tiny PC), and 2-in-1 laptops did?
Ever heard of Alienware?
what is that for an example, you arent meant to open a phone and switch stuff anyways...are you also crying when you cant change your DVD Drive in your Console with a better one? You cant be real
@@ExTremZero Since when does apple have the right to tell me the phone I bought is still theirs that I can't repair it? (God help me if I ever buy an apple product)
Just like your car- if u want to use a 3rd party oil so long as it meets the requirements, it is my right to do so to upgrade or repair it with whatever part I choose(that is in right to repair-especially autobody).
The fact that parts between two iPhones of the same model are not interchangeable is a totally unacceptable. Apple company should not be allowed to do this.
its called protection.
@@ExTremZero protection of a monopoly maybe
@@Deathstock so Microsoft or Sony protecting their Hardware is also just for monopoly? Smartphones are closed ecosystems and not designed that parts are swapable, this can lead to minor security breaches and makes it easy for hacker to get inside the Hardware to mess around with the casual consumer
@@ExTremZero bruh Microsoft and Sony let you swap parts from two brand new systems. Your power supply or HDMI port gets fucked on your Xbox? Swap it out for one on ebay. Charging port gets fucked on your new iphone? Take it to an apple "genius" to get it shipped off for 3 weeks for a few hundred. Did you watch the video? Someone can't stick a genuine apple part into a genuine apple phone because they don't have the software to clear the part. Anti consumer bullshit, and parrots like you defending the practice are helping to keep it that way
@@Deathstock you are trolling, 100% what you are saying doesnt make anysense.
You really compare motherboard swapping with swapping charging ports, you cant be real. thats hilarious
You can even change the lighting port to an USB-C port, there are tons of YTs around that shows this, that you can not change a motherboard or other items that can harm the software of the phone is for PORTECTION only and not because they dont want you to repair it. You cant even change the SSDs of the current consoles because of PROTECTIONS, you cant change the DVD Drives because of PROTECTIONS, but if you cant change a motherboard aka logicboard on an iPhone THATS ANTI CONSUMER WOKE SHIT. BTW the examples with the PSU and the different Ports like HDMI or Lighting for example on Apple devices can be swapped, stuff that can harm the software cant be swapped, this also goes for consoles aswell.
All you do is hating everything that Apple does but all they do is common sense since years in Console bubble, but when Apple does such thing its anti consumer, you can hate apple how much u want, but get your arguments right. If you dont know shit about tech stuff, stfu and gather information about a topic before shitposting
Thank you for your assessment. As a related note, the fairly expensive Samsung S22 Ultra also doesn't come with a charger or headphones.
The cables are also linked to each component in the phones so each cable also has its own ID number so you would have to change the cable linked to the face ID to have the Face ID work in the other phone case
The funny thing is the 14 is more repairable than the 14 pro since the 14 you go at it from the back and can replace the back glass. The 14 pro is almost identical to the 13 pro. The 14 was most likely designed that way in mind for the apple self service repair program. I suggest you look at the 14 since it is genuinely surprising that the 14 got an internal redesign while the 14 pro remains largely the same
Interesting! That’s the first time they’ve done that since the 4s.
Wait, WHAT?
It's a good thing, not needing to raise the screen just to repair something different, like repair the charging port.
@@satsumagt5284 yea everyone says iphone 14 is the same phone as the 13 but they actually completely redesigned the internals. It now opens up like most android phones with a back glass cover and internals accessed from the back. The front display has a giant aluminium shield under it and unlike android phones its as easy to remove the display too due to it being a flat panel. Shame that they lock third party repairs cuz the 14 seems to be the most repairable iphone yet
@@anir2286 kaneda ka ho ya Japan ka usse kya matlab lol
Respect to you for taking the time and effort to address this non stop and ongoing issue with Apple. And unfortunately, other manufacturers are just copying.
I swear some people just don't know how privileged life is for them, he just trashed 7000 $ on a whim!
Watching him tear down cutting-edge brand-new Apple stuff, felt my nervous mind say -
'Ya Sheikh you are the craziest money splurger ever.. just WHY !?!' Oh you don't know the gargantuan relief I felt after he put it all back and then I went, finished my one square meal for the day and got back to comment.
Thankfully at least he did'nt spoil anything! People would kill just to get their hands on that phone now from where I come from. That's my Life!
It’s only an issue if you are an illiterate spoiled brat that doesn’t read contracts but believes you should get all the benefits without the responsibilities.
Dude y’all so stupid it’s literally a brand new software 😂 16 POINT *ZERO*. Obviously they aren’t doing this they’ve NEVER done it. I’ve had 5-6 iPhone screens, cameras, back glass all that fixed via 3rd party repair shops. This videos clickbait and y’all need to learn how to code if your so upset at a BRAND NEW operating system that is COMPLETELY different, it’s not like small update dude they’ve literally changed the entire system not to mention their SELF CAMERA NOW HAS AN INTERACTIVE DYNAMIC ISLAND WITH TOUCH CONTROLS! I’m telling you it’s a glitch not some sort of evil plan y’all just love hating on iPhones so u can make people think Androids are better. Their not they’re wack 32bit out of date chipsets are holding back what and where out tech and apps could really accomplish
@@varunemani the 1 million youtube views would have more than made up for the couple of phones
@@varunemaniyou have a Shite life. Cool so do lots of people, you ain’t special
I've changed battery in my iphone 12 with their self repair program. I got message about battery, it's not a battery from them. But contact with support, and running apple diagnostic and having them to do something to my phone via this what was part of their manual, fixed the issue. No issue messages about 3rd party battery.
Dear Hugh,
Can you feature a Kindle Oasis 3?
Thank you, great content!
Hey, you should look at the bright side. The screws and the charging cable are still swappable between two same model Iphone. Probably for the Iphone 15 or for the Iphone 16, you cannot boot the phone if you don't use the same screws from the original Iphone and you cannot charge the phone if the cable is not the one come with the device.
We must wait for the ribbon cables to be not interchangeable
Shhhh, don't give them ideas!
Don't give them new ideas :(
A small NFC chip will be on each screw
I could be 100% wrong, but by the iPhone 16 it will be portless, and the wireless charging pad will be sold seperate, and maybe even matched with the phone at the Apple store by serial number through their special software sighting fire hazard risk of using a 3rd party charger, or some BS!!
Lately I have been enjoying going to recycling centers to pick up some old electronics to try and fix up and was absolutely shocked when upon the most recent visit I was greeted by two great 0.5tonn bags of iphone, ipad and macbook parts. All soaked in water and dirty from being kept outside in those bags. I am normally horriffied enough to see the amount of stuff we as a society throw away but this has just shaken me.
worst part is you probably can’t get those to a working state even if they were in perfect condition it’s so sad
All very difficult if not impossible to repair. Welcome to Apple 😁
Consumism will destroy life on this planet
Used to work for a company that was contracted to get rid of apples e-waste, hard to say exactly but from what I could tell when processing them about 60% were functioning fine but we’re just scrapped by Apple because it was some sort of tax related right off in e-recycling. From memory on the Apple products we averaged approximately 2-4 tonne worth of just pcb/aluminium. Daily.
@@jaydenwatson562 and then they talk about the environment and saving it
Excellent Hugh. 21st Century Highway Robbers.
I did notice on both phones you never reset that little metal thing next to the sim card. That little detail might be one of the reasons it didn't except the swap. Idk I just noticed I never saw it reset. When you push the tab happens at 3:33
iOS 16 introduced some new anti-repair tactics that completely disable aftermarket OLED screens from turning on. Installed a new Hard OLED on an iPhone 12 Pro Max, and got no display but touch functionality worked fine (could hear sounds when tapping). Down-graded to iOS 15.7 and the display turns on fine.
The interesting part about the SIM tray is that on the US models they just replaced it with a piece of plastic, meaning apple didn't even use the empty space.
Pfft, Where is the new sim card sized propriety 3.5 mm Audio Jack?!? Don't tell me they lied about the reason for its removal! Surely not such a great company such as the great Apple Macintosh would lie to us for such a petty base impulse as - dare I say it - greed? No, they have a ethos and a philosophy that's about moving us mere mortals to a more sustainable agrarian natural plant based yet highly technologically advanced utopian futuristic society where we all get along and thank our benevolent corporate overloads for allowing us to live here for such a reasonable monthly subscription fee
Why not just leave it empty....such environment friendly move lol
They haven’t filled it with something…yet.
I'd guess it's either because of a stock issue or because apple want to create a problem it can solve later, or to block users even more into their walled garden
I feel Apple will use the space for a larger ‘L-Shaped’ battery, somewhat like they did with iPhone 7 and removing the audio jack . . . or so they say haha
This will only understand by enthusiast like us very very great i fell you mate and keep doing ! 🌚🚶❣️
Maybe those difficulties you face with I(diot)Phone, is why I use a more normal brand. But thank you for a very informative and interesting video.
Name should be 14 pro based on the thumbnail and start of video. The iphone 14 seems to have some improvements because they flipped them to opening from the back.
@@officialstrike no it’s still glass
Interesting!
@@bordelon ah ye I just checked(that’s why I deleted my comment). Apparently the back glass is supposedly to be removable?
Every real "pro" has a slot somewhere or at least did! New world: All men will turn into geckos, totally doomed!
The back glass is removable but I heard the magsafe/qi coil might be software locked on the base 14s. The display is like a pixel with the metal plate and flex cable going through, and it opens from the back. Seems like more a mixed bag, and it's very strange the base 14s got a massive internal redesign while being virtually identical on the outside, while the pros stayed similar inside but have some differences outside.
Also yes, the US models just have a block of plastic where the SIM tray should be.
You have to take a look at the regular iphone 14. It is crazy how they changed the interior design.
@MrLegirtagel it is
@@aesthet1kal it's not. the BACK GLASS (!!!) is software locked so you can't replace it without losing phone functionality.
@@your_average_cultured_dude
How in the world is a back glass software locked?
this was great! take all of it apart with tweezers and put it all back together again in a different phone. My friends sometimes think there phone is being hacked and will also take there phone apart too
now this is a real product review... most of phone reviewers don't mention these types of stuff.
Excellent work Hugh, this is an amazing video both in research but more importantly analysis. I'm coming over from Louis Rossman's channel and I'm very thankful for his recommendation. Keep up the amazing work, this is very much appreciated by us all (in Canada).
Don’t forget that probably the LiDAR-sensor won’t be replaceable as well. Trying to use it changed will freeze or crash the app you try to use to scan with.
This was the case in iPhone 13 Pro and I’d be surprised if that has changed…
Thank you.... Decided to go apple my last phone upgrade. I will not be going back till they do something about this. Living in New York you learn to appreciate small tech business owners that should have the right without a company sending them a cease and desist. I don't know if this is in other states but finding out you can't purchase your phone in New York was weird. The loop hole is you have to buy the phone directly through the phone carrier. You can not buy your phone you have to do a trade in at the store. Might be different now but I doubt it.
To me Hugh Jeffreys you are an excellent engineer who knows about what about the I-Phone is, thanks for showing and kind regards.
Fantastic work on this one Hugh, thanks for your dedicated journalism in this area. Quick turn around on this as well!
huge respect for your effort, time in making this video brother _/\_
My first Apple was Xs it was nice, now have an 11 it's ok!!! Till now they are ok, even though I miss the jack and the possibility to use a microSD for more Memory... I'd love a more practical Smartphone like those in the past!!!
Thank you for the video. I have not bought Apple anything since iphone 4. I was unhappy how many things were restricted by Apple.
It's about the component id. Before replacing with a new component, you'll need a "programmer tool" to copy component id from previous device. This is trick Apple to think you're using your old component.
10:57 “like most things in life, it’ll be better with some alcohol” 😂
Great video, thanks for putting the time in to do this. Heard about your video from Luis Rossmann. Keep up the good fight!
hi jeffrey i wanna know whether if i replace the motherboard will my IMEI and serial number be the same thats allow my previous account sign in to track the phone?
Now that was a cool production. PROPER😎. The true theory behind 🍎’s hypothesis in reverse engineering repairs? Shall remain a mystery forever🙂
With all the "right to repair" movement we've been hearing over the last several years, they are still able to do this and get away with it. Incredible.
Right to Repair asked battery to be on removable glue, Apple did do it, the glue being hard to access was not on the agenda!
You can now get replacement hardware as asked but it's only from authorised Apple vendor to stop piracy and theft of IP.
Right to repair asked the phone to be not bricked when open for unauthorised repair, phone now work after unauthorised repair with few luxuries cut out.
So all the demand has been meet.
Because people still buy this bs
Apple and other very large companies (John Deere is the latest at the time of writing this in January 2023) are adopting a 'bare minimum' approach which allows them to say "look, we let people repair their products". The is with the intention of preventing legislation being made law to make home repair mandatory - the problem is that there is still a LOT which they don't allow or which is stupidly expensive. They are, to put it politely, abhorrent. I wish people would stop buying their over-priced, rip-off devices.
@@SlartiMarvinbartfast The problem is, there is no alternative. Even with what they are doing, I will still buy iPhones and iPads because I simply like them and need them. These things aren't fought with boycotting purchases. They are fought with offering alternative options. Create a company and make a better or even similar device, and offer self-repair, and I'll switch. That is the only way.
@@Perplexer1 Surprised an Android shill hasn't replied to your comment yet. An advertising and data collection agency, masquerading as a _don't be evil_ tech company, isn't an alternative.
The only alternative I see, albeit a not very convenient one, is to return to the dumb phone. I'm personally sick of Apple's shit and ready to make that move myself.
To "save the environment" they could at least keep a gap of 2 years before releasing a new iPhone model. It would give them time to actually bring more new stuff to the new model and people will buy the current model anyway. The "old" processor from the 13 Pro inside the regular 14 is a clear sign the 13 was more than capable to hold up just fine for 2 years minimum
Dude are you even listening to yourself. They earn so much they can buy a country and your telling them to stop? Are you crazy? Apple sells EXCLUSIVITY, that should have sent alarm bells on a frenzy but nope. I remember back 13 years ago the posh group wields their phones like a badge and a couple of more years it was the same then till now its the same. Do i hate em? nope and im actually impressed coz that's good social engineering group they have in there working at Apple. I'm more on the indifferent side. So again are you crazy? Why the hell would they stop this express train to riches.
@@m0n4rch911 Because they will sell the current model anyway without even having to lower the price and bother to produce "new" ones.Are you dumb enough to think they still wouldn't sell?
Lol your telling a company to not release a product that makes them a lot of money every year
Most people don't even need such a fast chip anyway
@@briandk8391 my thoughts exactly. The primary reason for production is to make money.
actually that codes/numbers can be replaced. but requires additional work and firmware communication protocols which are probably modified versions of i2c .
People really haven’t the faintest inkling of how much more advanced, affordable and high quality our devices really could be today😢
Keep up the good work people need to see this before buying an iPhone hopefully you keep doing it each time a new one is out. At least if someone buys one they are well informed on what they are getting into and how antirepair Apple is.
Thanks Jeffrey, again you delivered great video with important info. It's sad they still don't believe the people will still buy new phones even they could fix old one. Disabling self repair is a huge punch to our nose without a reason and against a law of ownership a things. I hope lawmakers will definitely cut it a very below, it will be good for customers and for the planet.
great video. Guess with all the cuts that are going on in the tech sector, they gotta tighten a grip on how much wealth they're sharing.
It sucks but I'm honestly not surprised. Great video but dang that sucks that they do it this way.
Hopefully there isn't some obsolescence being integrated in.
Thanks!
I think it's worth assessing the teardown on the iPhone 14 base model, I heard it has a different repairability design.I think it's worth it.
The iPhone 14 non-pro has got a lot of repairability upgrades inside, it would be great to see a video of it!
1:56 that pick flip was cool
Perhaps at the factory when they put the parts in in a certain order it works correctly when you buy it and load it and take it home with you
I really really enjoyed this tear down of the iPhone 14 Pros! It is a pleasure to meet you Hugh Jeffreys! I’m just finding your channel today, September 22, 2022. I will be tuning in to your videos from this day forward!
I don’t really expect apple to make their phones repairable considering they have been doing the same thing for quite some time now. Keep it up Hugh!
But the 14 is repairable tho. Only the 14 pro isnt
@@tbu_drachenkater5397 you mean that the backglass is just easier to repair and the screen? Other than that if you don't get the parts properly serialized you will always get those messages. If apple really cared they would atlease give you the option to restore the device and all your parts would be sterilized and fully working.
@@flamingkillermc2806 but its more repairable, still 🤷♂️
@@tbu_drachenkater5397 It’s more modular. That doesn’t make it more repairable in the general sense of the term. Two different terms and meanings.
@@tbu_drachenkater5397 the regular 14 will have the same warning messages and issues. Only that the regular 14 also has last year's processor. And a price increase. And no high refresh rate (which even the Galaxy A52 has, which is a mid range phone). And no charger. And a proprietary charge port type. And no headphone jack (which the A52 has). And no expandable storage. Etc.
Don't buy any iPhone 14 series device
I heard Apple has special repair box with replacement parts. What if this parts will automatically assign to repaired phone. So you should use this special replacement parts instead from another phone?
Also I know some good services can transfer parts firmware from phone to phone so they will work
in my opinion it reminds me of the old windows registration keys... if you added more devices or removed devices the computer would know. So I'm guessing apple made themselves a private memory location and storing values there whenever the battery is disconnected. Those values are no longer there upon reboot, and only added back in with the update
Hugh Props for your commitment to keep making these types of videos it shows to the average guy how unrepairable these phones have become especially apple phones
lmao nice pun, huge props
@@mtunayucer Didn't realize that i made a pun lol i just wrote it with out thinking
and as always, average consumers do not care, and they are actually happy to know that their phone purchased from the used market has genuine parts. meanwhile, android phones are sold like crazy by thieves and black market shops, usually having bad third party replacement parts.
@@IbrahemAlbanawi delete this reply then everyone will think you are a chad
I really appreciate you doing these tests with your own money and taking the time to help bring terrible business practices to the light to help educate those who may be unaware. I stopped buying apple products because of their business practices long ago after the whole court case regarding jailbreaking iphones where apple attempted to claim "the consumers do not own the phone, they are paying for the privilege to use it" (Paraphrasing since I don't remember the exact wording)
Im with you but android never works right either
@@nickbates2009 stay on topic. non-ios phones are easier to fix. yes or no?
Their claim is legal : you own only the hardware, the software is Apple property.
As the hardware doesn’t work without the software, you don’t own the phone.
@@BrodyBaddis yes
@@sebastianzietara4018 It's unethical!
This is gonna be the future to everything
I loved my Samsung note 3. It was so easy to replace the battery. Pop off the back and take the battery out of the contact pins and put the new one on. The screen? That’s easy too
I was considering getting a 14 pro, but after seeing this idk if i can. I repaired my Pixel 5's screen recently, and it was really easy using a Ifixit kit. Apples repairability schemes are insane 🤦🏽♂️
Don't get it at this point might as well buy an older iPhone model.
@@dontworryaboutme6410 or buy an android :)
Amazing to see the refined modular component design and absolute intricacy. The micro-interconnects and other absolutely tiny parts in these phones. Exotic tech we have gradually grown accustomed to.
I didn’t see you reapplying the glue when attaching the display. Is it still waterproof?
you just have to run something called System Configuration for them to run serial number checking to ensure its agenuine apple display so that people dont get away with free screen replacements for 3rd party issues
I'm very grateful for the work you put into keeping us informed.
[09/18/22] Great process, and investigation. Do you ever mark the various components with an identifier? After a few switches I could see it potentially becoming problematic to return all parts to their units of origin.
I've still yet to know another Jeffery... always Jeffrey
5:56 actually, at least in the US, you do still have to deal with these issues. What you do is you replace the part, and then call Apple support to get them to remove the message over the phone
It is of customers such as you that the Apple ecosystem needs! Well done!
what it needs is people to stop buying their products to begin with until they become more friendly to consumers
I never seen a video so detailed. It was a great eye-opener. I’d rather keep my Google 6 Pro and wait till the next Google 7 pro comes out.., (just a few days from now actually.) I’m pretty sure I will enjoy that one way much more and be comfortable and pleased that it is my phone! And that it does not belong to the manufacturer even though I pay for it. Thank you so much for this video!
Kudos to you.
If you are really happy with that phone you wouldn’t need the very next version. Most people on iPhones are happy to upgrade every 3 years. Rarely do people upgrade to the very next version.
They code the firmware to cross-reference specific serial numbers for every device as you mentioned. It's a basic if/then line of coding. Subjectively great products that are being messed with by greedy executives sadly.
No. It is called chain of Trust. It is far from a basic if/then.
@@jschenard Thanks for the correction. It helps me learn
Recently I had to purchase a new handset after I tried to repair an S9+ by changing the charging port and battery. Unfortunately it had an intermittent reception fault and i didn't bother at all to fix it.
About 4 years back I had an iphone, after that I completely switched over to Android and never switched back...
Good
Nice work Hugh. You probably know that the Right to Repair question extends to many things including autos, tractors and many other things with electronic devices. John Deere for example has been in the news for this. It's a double-edged sword alright. As far as Apple goes, I switched - too tired of their draconian approach to software, compatibility issues and Itunes.
Thanks for the tip! Apple is already out now! What's in now are cellphones and laptops that are so easy to repair!
After I found out Apple slowed my iphone down on purpose.
I bought a Samsung S7Edge. They even updated it's software a few months ago.
Battery might need replacing now. And some cracks. But for the rest it still works