Love seeing this ! There was a feature film done by Chapin Hall called “Every Day in Kaimukī “ which debuted at Sundance this year done with Orion Series and Sony FX9. If you use a 9:16 mode - native aspect with the 2x anamorphic becomes 18:16, not too far from 4:3. 9:17 becomes 18:17 - very nearly 1:1 for square format. I would forego the additional anamorphic adapter (although that’s wild) and you’ll still get stunning, unusual results. We call this 90 degree camera format “AtlasScope” and have a white paper on it if you want to check it out !
Holy shit I'm famous?!?!?! So glad to see you guys tested it! I've wanted to see what it looks like for so long, but don't quite have the money. I had the idea for this for a feature I was going to shoot that ended up not happening. I still want to make a movie with this look. Additionally, I wouldn't have had this idea were it not for all the knowledge Tito has provided through his CZcams channel.
You may have just come up with this but the UK tv show ‘Landscapers’ was recently shot this way with a Sony Venice on its side and a 2x anamorphic to create 16x9. It looks great.
Did this on project a couple years ago so I could get a anamorphic look and be able to have vertical and horizontal crops for social media. Surprised it’s taken this long for someone to do it on CZcams
From a technical perspective this is the equivalent of the sensor being 40.5mm x 27mm, half way between Full Frame (large format) and 65mm film. From an artistic standpoint I think you’ve created the next ‘thing’. There’s going to be a lot of people chasing this look.
It really does look so much like a large format image- especially the insanely shallow depth of field. I never thought achieving that kind of characteristic was possible in motion picture. So exciting!!
I think this is brilliant. You're preserving resolution and color quality by utilizing the full sensor. I think because of the extremely shallow DOF it gives you, you could also afford to stop the lens down a bit for a sharper, more professional image.
You can do it low budget. You need anamorphic adapter 1.55x, for example, for iphone, (almost every one rotating) and promovie app (it can shoot 4x3 opengate video). What to do next you will understand 😊
Isn't this very similar to a FF sensor with FF anamorphic lenses and then cropped on the sides? Of course much cheaper and with lighter lenses. I would ditch the *1,33 adapter, though. It's easier and you use less glass, which is always a good thing. With the *2 anamorphic lens on a 17:9 sensor you already get an equivalent to a 1,05X1 sensor. You just need to crop 13% top and bottom to get a 4:3. The resulting FOV is a bit tighter, true, but resolution loss with the URSA 12K is negligible. In fact, you may lose more resolution with the 1,33 lens adapter.
Did this before with the Moondog anamorphic adapter on my iPhone 11 Pro. Shot vertical 16:9, effectively ended up with a 4:3, 11MP video. Normal UHD is about 8.3MP. Also tried it in the ProMovie app where you get native 4:3 12MP video to begin with at 24fps. With the adapter placed correctly I got back to a 16:9 image at an effective 16MP.
I've been thinking about this ever since I got into anamorphic. 2x squeeze on a 16:9 makes a PERFECT social media aspect ratio. Great video, thanks for spending the money on the rental so I didn't have to myself...now I need to go buy an isco 2x...
Zack Snyder has been real quiet since this video came out.... But seriously, this is amazing and wholly unique. I want to shoot a whole movie like this.
I learn so much from your videos and appreciate all the effort you put into them! All of this is way beyond my capabilities, know-how, and gear but I still take something little out of every video.
The comment that it has something similar to large format photography is spot on. I wonder if Media Division will stumble on this and mess around with it?
I just shoot a project for a social media commercial 3 weeks ago on sony fx9 and cooke anamorphic super 35 sf version and installed the lens vertically . For the commercial there were shots side by side or square frame so i choose dci mode 4096 x 2160 resulting in 2048 x 2160 almost perfect square image and really nice organic aesthetics with vertical flare for a vertical world ,also i was really glad that i was using anamorphic for what they were first intended in the first place solving a format problem not a estetic choice(also not having to shoot with the camere rotated 90 degrees). For my taste fx6 is better than fx9 in color science terms but fx9 has that ff5k crop mode and when paired with cooke anamorphic super 35 sf i was getting almost no vignietting in the frame or easily corectable in post.When i was shooting depending on the shot needs i was switching between full frame and ff5k crop because in the side by side shot the vigniette didn’t bothered me. Also in my tests at the rental house i found that small hd is the only monitor that has vertical desqueese and for director and agency they had q take and with that you can make a lot of custom things so everything went smooth . The editor got a lil bit confused when he first saw the footage because none of the editing programs have a vertical desqueese option and it was his first time seeing this kind of footage but i gave notes to the dit guy so he figure it out in the end 😅. I am very curious to see this vertical anamorphic setup on a full frame camera with full frame anamorphic wide lens but used with another horizontal/normal mounted anamorphic adapter on top resulting in a inverted landscape ultra wide medium format alike mode …if that makes sense 😅, i am also very curios how flare will be..because usually flares are made in the first optical element (because of this video anamorphic lenses usually have the squeesed optical in front of the lens). I have a friend who ordered a kit of atlas mercury that have smaller front diameter so maybe i can make this test with a slr magic adapter because i don’t have access to an anamorphic adapter like the one in the video ,the only problem is that atlas mercury will take a couple of months to arrive so… can you make this test ?😁->> full frame landscape-> full frame wide vertically mounted anamophic lens->normal mounted anamorphic adapter 🤓 Damn this things are hard to be explained on the yt comment section!😬
It shines on medium/closeup still shots. It's great for aesthetic art shots (it hides microdetails and is more pleasing in a visual manner). I don't see if the focus pulling from inf to 3ft it stretches the bokeh (oval bokeh). Great video as usual!
I think you are up to something here!! AND a lot of people will be trying this... It's definitely something different in the Social Media space!! You have started a new revolution
Amazing. I just independently came up with this idea a few days ago after trying to figure out how to get around the limitations of Canon's DSLR and MILC cameras, which are all 3:2 ratio. Using a 2x anamorphic the usual way would have resulted in an image that's far too wide, so I'll be turning the camera on it's side and applying a 2x to the shorter side for a 4:3 result. Not sure about doing a double anamorphic though, since the quality of those adapters is just too dodgy.
This is really awesome! I shoot social media content and clients always want stuff for Instagram. So this could work on different platforms. Well done guys!
11:00 YES and YES it should become a trend, and camera, monitors and accessories should support vertical anamorphic output!!! VERY INTERESTING and images are dope even with CA
Reminds me of the way IMAX cameras film their features; sideways. I'm totally on board with this idea, and want to try this out on 8mm or Super8 (just for fun).
Man, I procrastinated watching this video for days but holy COW does this look interesting. One of the most interesting images I've seen in a long while. It feels somehow even more elevated and artful than *traditional* anamorphic. Fascinating. I'd love to try this out.
If you did this with a 4:3 sensor, you'd have very close to 2:1 final footage. If you did it with a 3:2 sensor you would have very close to 16:9 final footage. *EDIT:* To answer the question you asked at the end, I'd say it's very interesting, but perhaps filmmakers should instead ping the industry for more varied anamorphic ratios, first. That and more consumer and prosumer cameras with 4:3 and 3:2 or even square sensors. As an example, if there were anamorphics greater than 2x without an extra adapter, it would make this whole idea on its own much more tenable. For instance a 3x or 4x anamorphic lens. I don't personally like the high-ratio anamorphs as much as the 1.4x-1.6x range, but 'eh... Some do.
3:08 Anamorphic lenses where in the tank. (yes that shooting driving metal thing) Anamorphic lenses where developed by the army to give tankoperators a wider vield of view on the battle field whilst in the tank.
I very much love the look. Well done. No doubt this setup will trend in some circles for a while. I’m prepping for a short film right now and would consider using this rig if I had more lead time to experiment. Also, it seems I’ve lost track of your equipment choices. Your initial review of the 12k two years ago, raised so many questions about image quality (moiré and such), that I figured you had moved on to a different system. Obviously you’ve had a chance to reconsider. I for one, love my Ursa 12k.
I wish there was a dynamic lens made from a gel or liquid or maybe some plastic that reacts to electricity or heat so we could change the shape of the lens for all sorts of effects. Would be good for phones and space stuff. I know that's sort of what the james webb telescope is doing right now by adjusting its giant sensor thing. Idk just hypothesizing! Love your channel bro been watching since the beginning!
This is an awesome look. We currently use a ZCam E2M4 with MFT sensor, which uses an aspect ratio of 4:3 in full 4K. So if I wanted to go for "Cinematic" with the least crop and the least loss of sensor real estate, doesn't that sensor when combined with a 2xAnamorphic lens or adapter give me an aspect ratio of 8:3 when de-squeezed, which equals 1:2.66 and therefore only slightly wider than widescreen cinema of 1:2.35 and requires only minimal crop And if I set it up vertically to follow your lead, the resulting image would be 4:6 (or 6:4, whatever), which actually perfectly reproduces the 4:3 aspect ratio of old.
it just has a very unique look to it you cant pinpoint what is it about. it would have a special usecase i think, like if you want to make a high budget tv show in 4:3 endresult but looking very cinematic touched.
Okay call me crazy but hear me out. I need all you guys to put your heads together and try this experiment. I would if I had the money to spend on all this: Full Frame camera sideways + Medium format vintage lens (like Sekor C) + Medium format speedbooster + 2x Projector anamorphic lens and probably variable diopter up front to focus. I would love to see if that looks crazy!
Briliant idea. Though As an android app developer, I would solve the issue by using an android phone as a monitor. HDMI -> HDMI capture card -> USB OTG cable. And a custom app (having experience with webcam stuff, probably a 12 hour work) , that rotates and squeezes the image as you like.
This is interesting in that it echoes what Oscar Barnack did to create the 35mm still format for the Leica 1. He cut down reels of 35mm cinema stock and fed it through his camera horizontally instead of vertically in order to maximise the exposable area while keeping the overall form factor small.
Love seeing this ! There was a feature film done by Chapin Hall called “Every Day in Kaimukī “ which debuted at Sundance this year done with Orion Series and Sony FX9. If you use a 9:16 mode - native aspect with the 2x anamorphic becomes 18:16, not too far from 4:3. 9:17 becomes 18:17 - very nearly 1:1 for square format. I would forego the additional anamorphic adapter (although that’s wild) and you’ll still get stunning, unusual results. We call this 90 degree camera format “AtlasScope” and have a white paper on it if you want to check it out !
Wow!! Thanks for the info!!! Cool you stopped by!
Where would one find this whitepaper?
This is wild looking! Definitely feels like a larger format for some reason. Almost like I'm watching something shot on IMAX! Super cool idea!
The width gets the height and the height gets stretched to the new width.
So the sensor simply was being enlarged.
That's my guess for this effect.
Additionally, it has a 1.41:1 aspect ratio, which is close to IMAX's 1.43:1
Holy shit I'm famous?!?!?! So glad to see you guys tested it! I've wanted to see what it looks like for so long, but don't quite have the money. I had the idea for this for a feature I was going to shoot that ended up not happening. I still want to make a movie with this look. Additionally, I wouldn't have had this idea were it not for all the knowledge Tito has provided through his CZcams channel.
THIS WAS ALL YOU! Amazingly fun idea
Nice one man
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 congratulations man 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾and thank you 🙌🏾🙌🏾
You may have just come up with this but the UK tv show ‘Landscapers’ was recently shot this way with a Sony Venice on its side and a 2x anamorphic to create 16x9. It looks great.
Where did you learn this? I can't find anything about it online.
@@wright96d it was in British Cinematographer magazine.
Did this on project a couple years ago so I could get a anamorphic look and be able to have vertical and horizontal crops for social media. Surprised it’s taken this long for someone to do it on CZcams
this looks like, SUPER cinematic. the sharpness with the softness and the abberations. BLISS. just bliss.
*A24 has entered the chat.*
Great video! Love the quality of the final image.
Stylistically, this is a very A24 thing to do
From a technical perspective this is the equivalent of the sensor being 40.5mm x 27mm, half way between Full Frame (large format) and 65mm film.
From an artistic standpoint I think you’ve created the next ‘thing’. There’s going to be a lot of people chasing this look.
Yea it's definitely a bigger sensor feel
It really does look so much like a large format image- especially the insanely shallow depth of field. I never thought achieving that kind of characteristic was possible in motion picture. So exciting!!
Definitely gonna try this out on a shoot as well!! That's a really interesting idea. Love it. Funny intro btw!
I think this is brilliant. You're preserving resolution and color quality by utilizing the full sensor. I think because of the extremely shallow DOF it gives you, you could also afford to stop the lens down a bit for a sharper, more professional image.
no
This is a bit like IMAX but with anamorphic characteristics
That’s a good point!
This is one of the coolest combinations I've ever seen! Thanks so much for going the extra step to test these out just to see what happens.
WOW! So excited you did this! I have definitely lost sleep over thinking about doing vertical anamorphic shooting. I'm glad you guys tried it!
0:19 I drank from my cup at the EXACT same time while watching. Felt like a tea high five!
Now Wes Anderson finally can mix 4:3 and the anamorphic format
Looks great. The 4:3 ratio anamorphic look and the colors were amazing.
You can do it low budget. You need anamorphic adapter 1.55x, for example, for iphone, (almost every one rotating) and promovie app (it can shoot 4x3 opengate video). What to do next you will understand 😊
dude, it's got a very unique look, very good. It is for sure a taste thing, which is most of film making. Well done
Im obsessed with how this looks. The footage has such a vintage feel.
Isn't this very similar to a FF sensor with FF anamorphic lenses and then cropped on the sides? Of course much cheaper and with lighter lenses.
I would ditch the *1,33 adapter, though. It's easier and you use less glass, which is always a good thing.
With the *2 anamorphic lens on a 17:9 sensor you already get an equivalent to a 1,05X1 sensor. You just need to crop 13% top and bottom to get a 4:3. The resulting FOV is a bit tighter, true, but resolution loss with the URSA 12K is negligible. In fact, you may lose more resolution with the 1,33 lens adapter.
Did this before with the Moondog anamorphic adapter on my iPhone 11 Pro. Shot vertical 16:9, effectively ended up with a 4:3, 11MP video. Normal UHD is about 8.3MP.
Also tried it in the ProMovie app where you get native 4:3 12MP video to begin with at 24fps. With the adapter placed correctly I got back to a 16:9 image at an effective 16MP.
I've been thinking about this ever since I got into anamorphic. 2x squeeze on a 16:9 makes a PERFECT social media aspect ratio. Great video, thanks for spending the money on the rental so I didn't have to myself...now I need to go buy an isco 2x...
Zack Snyder has been real quiet since this video came out....
But seriously, this is amazing and wholly unique. I want to shoot a whole movie like this.
lol when I saw this image It reminded me so much of zsjl.
That footage looks amazing! Also the color grade, very filmic. I like it!
I learn so much from your videos and appreciate all the effort you put into them! All of this is way beyond my capabilities, know-how, and gear but I still take something little out of every video.
you passionate freaks!! This setup was indeed bizarre but I'm hoping to see products in future to ease this output. Love it 👍
Im sold on this look. Actually blown away. Now im gonna do some research and see if this is possible on a smaller scale
Let me know when you find out. I’m interested
The comment that it has something similar to large format photography is spot on. I wonder if Media Division will stumble on this and mess around with it?
Oh yes please. Definitely!
I just shoot a project for a social media commercial 3 weeks ago on sony fx9 and cooke anamorphic super 35 sf version and installed the lens vertically .
For the commercial there were shots side by side or square frame so i choose dci mode 4096 x 2160 resulting in 2048 x 2160 almost perfect square image and really nice organic aesthetics with vertical flare for a vertical world ,also i was really glad that i was using anamorphic for what they were first intended in the first place solving a format problem not a estetic choice(also not having to shoot with the camere rotated 90 degrees).
For my taste fx6 is better than fx9 in color science terms but fx9 has that ff5k crop mode and when paired with cooke anamorphic super 35 sf i was getting almost no vignietting in the frame or easily corectable in post.When i was shooting depending on the shot needs i was switching between full frame and ff5k crop because in the side by side shot the vigniette didn’t bothered me.
Also in my tests at the rental house i found that small hd is the only monitor that has vertical desqueese and for director and agency they had q take and with that you can make a lot of custom things so everything went smooth .
The editor got a lil bit confused when he first saw the footage because none of the editing programs have a vertical desqueese option and it was his first time seeing this kind of footage but i gave notes to the dit guy so he figure it out in the end 😅.
I am very curious to see this vertical anamorphic setup on a full frame camera with full frame anamorphic wide lens but used with another horizontal/normal mounted anamorphic adapter on top resulting in a inverted landscape ultra wide medium format alike mode …if that makes sense 😅, i am also very curios how flare will be..because usually flares are made in the first optical element (because of this video anamorphic lenses usually have the squeesed optical in front of the lens).
I have a friend who ordered a kit of atlas mercury that have smaller front diameter so maybe i can make this test with a slr magic adapter because i don’t have access to an anamorphic adapter like the one in the video ,the only problem is that atlas mercury will take a couple of months to arrive so… can you make this test ?😁->> full frame landscape-> full frame wide vertically mounted anamophic lens->normal mounted anamorphic adapter 🤓
Damn this things are hard to be explained on the yt comment section!😬
Love U Guys. All your videos are perfects !
This is super sick, love it
1:20 It's really cool how it also gives you film halation too on high contrast edges!
I’ve done this. Lotta fun! Great video.
The shots looks awesome, I really like the bokeh it gives
I just enjoy watching u guys taking about film stuff
That means you’re a nerd! Welcome!
Definitely not ridiculous, amazing episode.
this looks soooo sick!
I would love to be able to shoot like this it’s different, can be used for a lot of cool image effects and I just love the look
So cool! Epic even. I would use this for sure
Yess!! This is peak film nerd content right here🤣 Love the Tito feature btw. you guys rock
We are nerds it’s true
This looks amazing!!!
I think I'm going to end up coming back to this video multiple times just to see how amazing the footage looks.
This is really cool! Props to the person who suggested it!
genius
It shines on medium/closeup still shots. It's great for aesthetic art shots (it hides microdetails and is more pleasing in a visual manner). I don't see if the focus pulling from inf to 3ft it stretches the bokeh (oval bokeh). Great video as usual!
blew mt mind, really wish this video isn't going to blew up so I can try this setup in the future
Looks super cool
I think you are up to something here!! AND a lot of people will be trying this... It's definitely something different in the Social Media space!! You have started a new revolution
You guys are awesome.
Yo this is dope, def gonna use this on a future project.
This is beautiful looking. You've now got me thinking of new ways to capture images. Thank you for expanding my perspective on filmmaking.
Loved the surprise appearance of the Northern Irish accent!
It should stay out of filmmaking and absolutely blow up in the vlogging sphere where it belongs. It will be supremely appreciated there.
This is brilliant!
Amazing. I just independently came up with this idea a few days ago after trying to figure out how to get around the limitations of Canon's DSLR and MILC cameras, which are all 3:2 ratio. Using a 2x anamorphic the usual way would have resulted in an image that's far too wide, so I'll be turning the camera on it's side and applying a 2x to the shorter side for a 4:3 result. Not sure about doing a double anamorphic though, since the quality of those adapters is just too dodgy.
It‘s incredible!
This is really awesome! I shoot social media content and clients always want stuff for Instagram. So this could work on different platforms. Well done guys!
11:00 YES and YES it should become a trend, and camera, monitors and accessories should support vertical anamorphic output!!! VERY INTERESTING and images are dope even with CA
I love the look ! 😍
Reminds me of the way IMAX cameras film their features; sideways. I'm totally on board with this idea, and want to try this out on 8mm or Super8 (just for fun).
Man, I procrastinated watching this video for days but holy COW does this look interesting. One of the most interesting images I've seen in a long while. It feels somehow even more elevated and artful than *traditional* anamorphic. Fascinating. I'd love to try this out.
I can’t help but think of Wes Anderson when I see this. Great vid!
That’s true!
If you did this with a 4:3 sensor, you'd have very close to 2:1 final footage. If you did it with a 3:2 sensor you would have very close to 16:9 final footage.
*EDIT:* To answer the question you asked at the end, I'd say it's very interesting, but perhaps filmmakers should instead ping the industry for more varied anamorphic ratios, first. That and more consumer and prosumer cameras with 4:3 and 3:2 or even square sensors.
As an example, if there were anamorphics greater than 2x without an extra adapter, it would make this whole idea on its own much more tenable. For instance a 3x or 4x anamorphic lens. I don't personally like the high-ratio anamorphs as much as the 1.4x-1.6x range, but 'eh... Some do.
3:08 Anamorphic lenses where in the tank. (yes that shooting driving metal thing) Anamorphic lenses where developed by the army to give tankoperators a wider vield of view on the battle field whilst in the tank.
Now that’s cool! I had no idea
I very much love the look. Well done. No doubt this setup will trend in some circles for a while. I’m prepping for a short film right now and would consider using this rig if I had more lead time to experiment. Also, it seems I’ve lost track of your equipment choices. Your initial review of the 12k two years ago, raised so many questions about image quality (moiré and such), that I figured you had moved on to a different system. Obviously you’ve had a chance to reconsider. I for one, love my Ursa 12k.
I´ve always wondered about reverse anamorphic. A lens that turns 16:9 to 4:3. This seems like answer to my questions, in a way
This was so sick dude!
I wish there was a dynamic lens made from a gel or liquid or maybe some plastic that reacts to electricity or heat so we could change the shape of the lens for all sorts of effects. Would be good for phones and space stuff. I know that's sort of what the james webb telescope is doing right now by adjusting its giant sensor thing. Idk just hypothesizing! Love your channel bro been watching since the beginning!
This is an awesome look.
We currently use a ZCam E2M4 with MFT sensor, which uses an aspect ratio of 4:3 in full 4K.
So if I wanted to go for "Cinematic" with the least crop and the least loss of sensor real estate, doesn't that sensor when combined with a 2xAnamorphic lens or adapter give me an aspect ratio of 8:3 when de-squeezed, which equals 1:2.66 and therefore only slightly wider than widescreen cinema of 1:2.35 and requires only minimal crop
And if I set it up vertically to follow your lead, the resulting image would be 4:6 (or 6:4, whatever), which actually perfectly reproduces the 4:3 aspect ratio of old.
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This is actually kinda revolutionary, I’d love to try this for a music video, it looks so dope! 🔥🔥🔥
It’s brilliant!
This is great! This is how art is advanced. You are met with a problem, then you have to think outside the box for a solution.
Wow I didn’t think of that! Good point!
This is awesome !
Ok so we have motorized ND filters, I think cameras of the future may also have motorized rotatable sensors for vertical content.
I love the image. It looks both new and old at the same time
Thank God, you guys cropped it...
I didn't want to see another Facebook/Instagram stories today! 😁😁😁🤭
This gave my Anaxiety. 😵💫
I have not being as excited watching a camera gear video ever before!
Digital iMax? Let’s go!
11:21 jajjaa , thank you por everithing!
it just has a very unique look to it you cant pinpoint what is it about. it would have a special usecase i think, like if you want to make a high budget tv show in 4:3 endresult but looking very cinematic touched.
If my last name were Morphic, my daughter must be called Ana
It's looks weird, it's insane, and quite frankly unnecessary... in other words, its perfect for amazing and groundbreaking film making.
Absolutely ridiculous, and I for one love it!
Okay call me crazy but hear me out.
I need all you guys to put your heads together and try this experiment. I would if I had the money to spend on all this:
Full Frame camera sideways + Medium format vintage lens (like Sekor C) + Medium format speedbooster + 2x Projector anamorphic lens and probably variable diopter up front to focus.
I would love to see if that looks crazy!
Briliant idea. Though As an android app developer, I would solve the issue by using an android phone as a monitor. HDMI -> HDMI capture card -> USB OTG cable. And a custom app (having experience with webcam stuff, probably a 12 hour work) , that rotates and squeezes the image as you like.
Woooooow ……it’s out of circles (Cinema)
Looks awesome. It has that 65mm film look. Keep using this for sure. Ill be awesome if u guys make a short film like this to get the whole feel
Needs more light rays! Headlights, please...
This is interesting in that it echoes what Oscar Barnack did to create the 35mm still format for the Leica 1. He cut down reels of 35mm cinema stock and fed it through his camera horizontally instead of vertically in order to maximise the exposable area while keeping the overall form factor small.
Oh that’s cool
I like the look of it. Some the shots do remind of large format photo camera with older lens.
Another great video thanks!
1:50 He's "gonna need a bigger boat"
this is hardcore AMAZING
Looks like large format film rescanned or something. The abberation gives a real vintage quality
genius idea