f0.3 - The Impossible Lens - Building a Large Format DoF movie camera - Epic Episode #18

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  • čas přidán 11. 05. 2024
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    We set out on a journey to capture the unseen… an image that is impossible to capture with any conventional camera.
    We built a unique large format movie camera with the massive Leica lens that is equivalent to an impossible 29mm f0.3 lens.
    Come along with us as we explore the connection between lens speed, depth of field, and format.
    Show you how we combined two large format cameras, and designed a precise motorised focus system. We take you behind the scenes and show you how we shot or short above and below the surface.
    We experiment with large format cameras, ground glass, light, DoF adapters , and film with a massive spy plane lens.
    Check out the HDR Version of the Short
    “The Iron Sea”
    • The Iron Sea - A short...
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    #LargeFormatMovieCamera #DoFCamera #impossiblelens
    00:00 - Intro & Contents
    02:02 - Depth of Field explained - Part I
    Part I - What you need to know
    05:06 - A small history of Large Format
    07:10 - Depth of Field explained - Part II
    08:20 - Equivalency of Lenses
    09:40 - 8x10 Large format lenses
    10:30 - Hektor - a fast large format lens
    Part II - Capturing the impossible
    11:55 - Creating an intermediate image
    15:33 - DoF Adapter
    16:32 - Building the Camera
    17:58 - Focussing f0.3
    19:00 - DIY Motorised Focus
    21:20 - The Secret Sauce
    22:25 - The Collimator
    24:24 - The problem with Fresnel lenses
    25:47 - Ground Glass
    Part III - Creating a Short
    27:28 - The Iron Sea (shot at f0.3 equivalent)
    30:56 - HDR
    31:40 - Channel message
    38:33 - Behind the Scenes
    Part IV - Food for Thoughts
    44:40 - Hektor vs a normal lens
    45:48 - Even larger - using a spy plane lens
    47:08 - Tilt shift
    48:04 - The Large Format look
    50:19 - Thank you Partners & Members
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  • @BadOmenRGV
    @BadOmenRGV Před měsícem +13

    This is high quality long form content and belongs on this platform. ARE YOU LISTENING ALGORITHM!?

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před měsícem

      Thanks.... this is the one of our many videos where CZcams seems to agree... but we have soooo many others on the same level.

  • @shackvan
    @shackvan Před rokem +1027

    I'm a photographer rather than a film maker so I find the movie aspect interesting to watch but this is where this channel really vibes for me, I cant see people discussing optics and camera science with this depth and approachability anywhere else on CZcams. This channel is a diamond in the rough and I hope to see a lot more "messing around" from you guys. all the best and have a great 2023.

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +35

      We are working hard to be as informative as entertaining and challenge people to really understand the things they knew about but never bothered to go deeper, so I a very happy , that you see us in that place. Thanks a lot man!

    • @EricLikness
      @EricLikness Před rokem +5

      @@MediaDivision I think I bumped into the f0.7 video you produced 2 years ago, (somewhat by accident), but am Sooooo happy you pursued that to it's logical extent, both technically but more important, ARTISTICALLY. You achieved the tech, as a means to make the art and it shows. Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou! Media Division FTW 💪 💥😎

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +4

      Thanks a lot Eric. Very happy you you think we evolved somewhere interesting.

    • @NoahBuehler
      @NoahBuehler Před rokem

      For Photography you might want to look into scanner cameras, using a flatbed scanner can be a very interresting way to get high resolution large format images...

    • @jstn9914
      @jstn9914 Před rokem +1

      Just fyi, "a diamond in the rough" means a dull gem that hasn't yet reached its full potential.

  • @NoahBuehler
    @NoahBuehler Před rokem +394

    I first saw this idea when DIY Perks did his Large format Project, It was great seeing that idea done in a more professional camera envirement. Also seeing it used is great and very intresting.
    (After reading another comment I need to add this: I'm not implying that anyone has stolen each others idea, I just find it great that such optical projects get more attention on YT. I actually think that both projects show the concept very well and also show how it can be done with different budgets obviusly since you have more experience in this field you could use it better)

    • @chasewilltin8567
      @chasewilltin8567 Před rokem +5

      seems like they did

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +69

      People seem to be under the misapprehension that they invited the technique… they did not. like we say in our video, the technique is not new and it has been done by many in many variants. There used to be a facebook group for people with these kind of camera (DoF Adapters and Digital Obscura).
      The DIY Perks camera did NOT inspire this project. Our camera was functional long before their camera came out.
 We were very public and vocal about our development, and we have the post to prove it.
 I don’t know if Perks where inspired by that or not… it doesn’t matter. This is not a “who comes first” things… neither of us was at any stretch.
The more important part (at least to us) is what kind of image we can get and what kind of story we can tell with it. The camera itself is secondary.
Also, we take the audience along to get a better grasp of things like the “equivalency of lenses” and make education fun.
      I am very happy that you think that we succeeded in created something worth your time

    • @baptistedelplanque8859
      @baptistedelplanque8859 Před rokem +21

      @@MediaDivision I personally like to see two approaches and don't care who posted first.

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +28

      I write one answer for all the DIY Perks related comments…a lot of the comments are snarky.

    • @NoahBuehler
      @NoahBuehler Před rokem

      At any rate great video, great to know that this is a option, which I could use whenever it fits in to a project. I actually really like that I saw it done with diferent gear, just proves that the concept is really a great idea. Love the channel, I first descovered it with the scope films.

  • @abdelilahhamdane4647
    @abdelilahhamdane4647 Před rokem +5

    The thing camera lovers can do is leave a message to help with the algorithm

  • @chickenpasta7359
    @chickenpasta7359 Před rokem +130

    Seriously, the final shot of the film is some of the most gorgeous and beautiful cinematography I've ever seen in my life. The fact that you did this stuff just as a hobby and to show what's possible is insane given the effort you and your peers put into these. Your videos never disappoint.

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +8

      Thank you Chicken Paste… much appreciated. This one was quite insane indeed… I wish CZcams would value it as much as you do.

    • @Automatic-Diaphragm
      @Automatic-Diaphragm Před 7 měsíci +1

      well looks like it did value it in the end haha@@MediaDivision

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před 7 měsíci +12

      you mean as it has 450K views? For this amount of work you have to think in other dimensions I fear. This is about 800$ in ad revenue@@Automatic-Diaphragm

  • @harkostroef
    @harkostroef Před rokem +61

    Not only is your production quality extremely high, your work also has great amounts of character. That requires a lot of skill.

  • @bencushwa8902
    @bencushwa8902 Před rokem +192

    As an engineer, I found your process absolutely fascinating. This is one of the best explainers of camera design that I've ever seen; there are so many bad explanations of depth of field across different sensor sizes on the Internet and this is truly a breath of fresh air.
    As a photographer who's been dabbling with mating "fast" medium format lenses with large format cameras to shoot instant film, I appreciate the inspiration. It's nice to know that I'm not alone in my quest to build exactly the camera I need.
    And as a lover of shallow depths of field, I'm in awe of The Iron Sea.
    Thank you.

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +4

      Thanks a lot Ben… very happy that you see it that way. I think it really good being self taught with everything in this context as it helps to draw out a straight understandable road to whatever your try to explain. I am always happy when I (hopefully) didn't screw anything up.
      In the end, all knowledge is mute unless you create something worth watching, doing, using, or experimenting. All power to engineering.

    • @thecorruptversion
      @thecorruptversion Před měsícem

      An engineer mentioning he's an engineer? whaaaaat?

  • @danielhuang2488
    @danielhuang2488 Před rokem +15

    my jaw is on the floor every time you guys drop something huge like this. 1 hour passes like it's nothing. keep being crazy!

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +3

      Will try Daniel… youtube is moving away from content like this, but as long as we have the audience, we will try.

  • @damiendehorn6350
    @damiendehorn6350 Před rokem +98

    Damn this channel just keeps getting better and better. I had to watch it 3 times to absorb what was happening. This is what CZcams is for. Kubrick would be proud.

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +6

      Thanks a lot Damien… I really hope he would be. I really do. He is and always will be my hero!

  • @aosminecraft
    @aosminecraft Před rokem +13

    What an insane introduction to a channel pushing the limits of what’s possible. Top notch doesn’t even cut it. You’re in a league of your own. Thank you.

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +3

      Welcome to nerdy content for nerds to nerd out over ;-) Very happy you feel that way Nick… thanks for being a part of it and your kindness.

  • @futc.photography
    @futc.photography Před rokem +14

    One of the best and highest quality videos I’ve ever seen on CZcams hands down. Here are enough Netflix shows that strive for this level of quality (and planning lol). Using the robot arm for the explainer shots was genius.

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem

      Thanks a lot FUTC... appreciated! We hope to deliver something that you haven't seen on the platform before.

  • @buddyfx7026
    @buddyfx7026 Před rokem +67

    Happy for the sponsorship and thank you for everything you do as always, you're a gem!

  • @TevfikFikretBakan
    @TevfikFikretBakan Před rokem +3

    Myth Busters of the videography. Thanks.

  • @smen2586
    @smen2586 Před rokem +14

    It is criminal this channel does not have more subscribers this content is better than most high budget productions now.

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem

      Man… I wish CZcams or Netflix or HBO would see it the same way ;-) I would love to grow further. Thanks for hanging Smen

  • @FoiMal123
    @FoiMal123 Před rokem +10

    This channel is just pure gold. I don't understand the lack of subscribers.

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +3

      CZcams policies?… to few nerds? You not spreading the word? ;-)
      Thanks man!!!

  • @caselaviolette
    @caselaviolette Před rokem +8

    Did the short film make anyone else literally cry or just me?

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +1

      At least you are the first to say you did… I am very happy that it had an emotional impact on you as that was our intension. Thanks for watching and interacting.

    • @caselaviolette
      @caselaviolette Před rokem

      @@MediaDivision he went down there to escape, to think, to be alone, or maybe even to morn and let go, and he found that another part of himself was down there alone for some time before and through it he became whole again.

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +1

      ​@@caselaviolette We totally leave the interpretation to the individual in the audience. It could be many things but if this is what you feel it is absolutely right.

    • @caselaviolette
      @caselaviolette Před rokem

      @@MediaDivision thank you for your replies it means a lot. Can I email with you? I have a short film I want to create

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem

      you can… info@media-division.de
      Be aware that we can only do extensive consulting for our Kubrick Members… otherwise we go insane and can't feed children.

  • @philipbloom
    @philipbloom Před rokem +3

    Incredible and fascinating video Nikolas.

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +1

      Thanks a lot Philip… feeling blessed that someone like you enjoys the show. In my case… it's not hard to meet my maker ;-)

  • @michaelfieser
    @michaelfieser Před rokem +8

    MEDIA DIVISION creates the best photo-geek content. Full stop.
    I've been "playing" at still photography for 40 years but, with each video you produce, my level of understanding deepens, or, more accurately, my ability to explain these niche topics increases 10 fold.
    Thank you!

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +1

      So glad that you think that way and that you find our videos helpful and (hopefully) entertaining, too. Please, spread the word

    • @michaelfieser
      @michaelfieser Před rokem

      @@MediaDivision Oh, the EDUTAINMENT level of your content is unrivaled and I most definitely SHARE your videos.

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem

      Thats the spirit!!! Thanks a lot Michael!

  • @Aidenn727
    @Aidenn727 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I somehow expected him to say "winter is coming" at 28:36 :) awesome work !!

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před 2 měsíci

      Totally… he got a Jon Snow vibe in that take. Thanks man!

  • @user-jp9js9th8o
    @user-jp9js9th8o Před 7 měsíci +2

    "Warp speed"::: You have so many creative and really great ideas: SENSATIONAL... 👍👍👍👍

  • @nicolaslebrun3196
    @nicolaslebrun3196 Před rokem +11

    Providing content like that is a game changer for every autodidact in this world. Allowing us to get more comprehension of the physical concepts behind photography. It allows all to get information people studied it in school sometimes never heard of !
    I really appreciate it and therefore I thank you, and all people working jointly to create this content !
    Keep up the good work

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +1

      We really hope it can do exactly that. Thanks for being around and engaging with us Nico!

    • @fernbear3950
      @fernbear3950 Před rokem

      Autodidactism is a field of scientific inquiry and study that I'd hope to/like to see far more often in the future! :D

  • @chakk0
    @chakk0 Před rokem +3

    Kann man gar nicht in Worte verpacken. Was ihr hier jedes mal abliefert ist einfach absurd gut!! Ich muss jetzt echt Member werden

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +2

      Danke danke… und… ich bin voll dafür ;-)

  • @robmcd
    @robmcd Před rokem

    That theme song and deutche accent… just triggers abundant pleasant chemicals in my brain. It must like like Star Wars enthusiasts hearing the opening music on a new film they’ve not yet seen. Breathtaking awe and anticipation.

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem

      Branding is everything… now imagine that with a German accent: Branding is everything ;-) Glad you enjoy despite our kraut voice overs.

    • @robmcd
      @robmcd Před rokem +1

      @@MediaDivision Don’t worry your English is perfect; even with flawless W’s! Now how do I get the media division theme song as my iPhone ringtone? I’ve listened to the original song and it’s just not my jam.

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +1

      Artlist will help… "Saving Tides by Chase Baker" is the name

  • @Veptis
    @Veptis Před 8 měsíci +1

    So happy you followed up on this topic. There was of course the video b Über Hoover a few years ago and a few attempts at something similar. Including an interesting combination of anamorphic lenses combined with an anamorphic adapter in the front (so the image is spherical but squeezed in both directions).
    There is a 29mm (prime prime) f/0.8 lens for MFT, but it's similar dof to a 50mm f/1.4 which people are used to on Full Frame. Yet I still want one. Eventhough it's more like T1.02 (at the center) and T1.8 at the edges.
    I have a large format camera that's 13.5cm f/4.5 and I have shot dry plates with it. People had to hold still for 10 seconds wide open and the negatives are really really thin.
    The largest lens I have is a 150mm f/1. But it's not made for visible light but thermal infrared, because the lens elements are made of Germanium. It's slower than your 300mm f/2.8 but faster lenses exist for thermal infrared cameras too, so do telescopes (using mirrors).
    I believe a patent for a f/0.37 lens does exists, but it's using mirrors and might not be physically feasible.
    LargeSense 811 is just four LargeSemse 45 joined together. Similar to the Arri 65 sensor perhaps. You can get such sensors much cheaper. Look at X-ray detector plates. They have a sintilaton layer to convert x-rays into visible light due to fluresence. You could remove that layer and end up with a rather large visible light detector. It will be low resolution, large pixels and has some stiching lines. It's essentially what LargeSense sells, ready made for photography. There is a video from Ben over at Applied Science that shows how such a detector plate works (for x-rays). and you can find them on eBay for like 500 bucks. it's a project I have thought about a few times. But been told it's dangerous.
    The largest digital sensors are 81x81 mm and are made for space telescopes by Teledyne. there is 61x61 "scientific" cameras you can buy starting around 50k for astro cams. These are also actively cooled.
    There is another reason to use large format. In stills, like landscape you wand really deep depth of field. But stopping down would introduce a loss of sharpness due to diffraction. What many don't realize is that diffraction is inherent, and becomes and issue when the aperture is small. But if you are shooting large format wide angle, your focal length might be 450mm. And stopping down to f/128 will leave your aperture several cm open. So you do not have issue with diffraction.
    The intro shot made me think Adam Driver, seen too many wide Kylo memes.
    Turning your room into a camera obscura reminds me of a photographer I once met. They were shooting in an equally giant lens but not on ground glass but glass plates directly. Essentially a window pane that had emulsion brushed onto. And the developer would be sprayed on with a garden hose. The camera and darkroom where an old school gym with a giant separation curtain. There is a story about a pinhole camera the size of an aircraft hangar, with several months of exposure time.
    And finally if you do VLBI (very long baseline interferometry), your synthetic aperture can have the size of the planet or even the solar system (LISA). But that goes beyond imaging or even filmmaking.

  • @eddieneen
    @eddieneen Před rokem +18

    A very underrated channel. The effort your team puts into your videos is simply outstanding. Well done and please don't stop producing work for this channel.

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +1

      I tend to agree ;-) Please help us to spread the word. Will try man and thanks for hanging

  • @escarface
    @escarface Před rokem +12

    Popcorn popping now

  • @NizzoiPR
    @NizzoiPR Před rokem +1

    Mulțumim!

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem

      Nu... Îți mulțumim! Vă mulțumim pentru susținere, The Division vă saltă!

  • @patricksdesousa
    @patricksdesousa Před rokem +7

    DIY Perks, sends best regards!

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +2

      DIYPerks mention number XXX… as this comes up a lot, here is a standard answer:
      We built this camera long before DIY perks posted their video, and we got the posts to prove that all over the place. I don't know if we inspired their built or if that is a pure coincidence.
      While it also also a DoF adapter design these camera are very different beast.
      Also, we use our camera for what it is supposed to do… film something worth watching.
      The episode gives us the opportunity to teach about the equivalency of lenses and other interesting things, the camera built itself is just a vehicle to do that.

    • @calebbarstadreels
      @calebbarstadreels Před 4 měsíci +2

      ur very defensive about this@@MediaDivision

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před 4 měsíci

      after answering about 200 comments about this subject… including offensive and threatening ones… I think it is VERY measured @@calebbarstadreels

    • @calebbarstadreels
      @calebbarstadreels Před 4 měsíci

      @@MediaDivision fair enough

  • @drc8676
    @drc8676 Před rokem +23

    Media Division stands alone on CZcams when it comes to quality and content. I can't imagine the endless hours spent making sure everything from build to shooting to narrative is perfect. You could've probably halved the time invested and still put together an amazing video, but I always get the sense that "good enough" doesn't exist in your vocabulary. Thank you for entertaining, informing and inspiring us.

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem

      Thanks Derrick… I will say that our demand for perfection got a little out out hand ;-) generous people like yourself make it possible. Thank you so much and much love from myself and the team!

  • @joemmatthews
    @joemmatthews Před rokem +11

    There isn't another channel out there like Media Division. Thank you for the time and effort invested in each brilliant episode. Can't wait to see what's next!

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +1

      Thanks a lot for your support Joe. Your generosity makes content like this possible. Your kindness is just as welcome.....
      the Division salutes you!

  • @AnthonySmith-sc4zs
    @AnthonySmith-sc4zs Před měsícem

    I love the part when he’s walking towards the camera in the forest. It looks so surreal.

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před měsícem +1

      The power of depth of field!! Thanks Anthony

  • @charlesmurphy6479
    @charlesmurphy6479 Před rokem +6

    Perhaps the most intruiging, thoughtful, and incredible content I have seen on youtube. So entertaining and so informative. I am just flabbergasted that this content is free. You've got a subscriber for life.

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem

      Nice to have you around Charles. Very glad you feel edutained. We have a lot more videos with a similar approach... enjoy your binge watch session!

  • @bartoszczerniawski8047
    @bartoszczerniawski8047 Před rokem +3

    Well, I’m 30 minutes in and I can’t takie my eyes away! It is an amazing experience for me to watch and listen to people that clearly know what tey are talking about. I admire your passion and commitement to what you are doping. This video alone is truly beautiful. I recommend everyone to watch it. I will definitely stay with your chanel for a longer time now that I have just discovered it for myself. Again, love the work, and I am now going to continue watching till the end…

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem

      Thanks a lot Bartosz... glad you feel edutained. We appreciate your kindness and you hanging around our channel... we have lot's of stuff that might be for you as well.

  • @mwakafrancismatthew868
    @mwakafrancismatthew868 Před 10 měsíci

    Oh my... Who knew I'd ever fall in love with a video?

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před 10 měsíci +1

      …put a ring on it ;-) thanks man! Appreciate your kindness

  • @lilstarfishdude
    @lilstarfishdude Před rokem

    The hollidays are saved! 🤩🥰🥳
    Thank you Nikolas!! 🤗

  • @fauland_photography
    @fauland_photography Před rokem +2

    You videos are a rare example of "the sky is the limit". When ever I thought "how to raise the level on the next one?" this next upload gave the anwser. So proud to be a community member 😎

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +1

      Hey Peter… thank you so much for being a member! You make it possible! We salute you!! Hoffe Du hattest eine schöne Weihnachten!! Danke für alles

    • @Lesterandsons
      @Lesterandsons Před rokem +2

      No. This video is "sky is no longer the limit".

  • @lego_minifig
    @lego_minifig Před rokem +4

    Im more of a hobbyist photographer, but I always find your videos fascinating and always watch all the way through. Not too many channels can keep me hooked for an hour. Your production value and explanations are always excellent.

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem

      Glad that we can keep you edutained! Thanks. lot for hanging with us.

  • @katinar4o
    @katinar4o Před rokem +3

    A 1000 miles journey starts with the first step. In the last three years, I bought plenty of "shoes" and "socks", but I still don't have the courage to make that first step... You are inspiration guys, I wish you all the BEST!!!

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +1

      Thanks a lot… don't be to hard on yourself. Be your greatest critic, but do it anyways… improve every time a tiny bit. Over time, there will be nothing you can't do. Good luck!

  • @MarkFonts
    @MarkFonts Před 5 měsíci +1

    the quality of your half documentaries, half video essays are absolutely stellar. thank you for sharing how you conquer new problems, but accessibly visualize them.

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Thanks Mark... appreciate your kindness. Thats exactly what we are trying to accomplish, very happy it works for you.

  • @mr702s
    @mr702s Před rokem +8

    Thank you! Was so worth the wait for this video and instilled me with confidence to eventually make one some day soon. I love the low light, DOF, wide viewing angle, and look created by this setup!

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem

      Thanks a lot David… we will drink to you! You make independent content like this possible - and we salut you for it. Very happy you find the images good!.

  • @davidwyatt5427
    @davidwyatt5427 Před rokem +10

    This is by far the most interesting cinematography channel on CZcams and so well put together!! Maximum respect!! 👏👏

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem

      Thanks a lot David… please spread the word when it comes up ;-)

  • @vinovinkkeli
    @vinovinkkeli Před rokem +1

    Media Division quality. It should be written as a Wikipedia page what it means! How much nerdness, love and work hours it means when you deliver in Media Division quality. I hope to see someday a Media Division involvement in one of the Nicolas favorite movies Lynch Dune :)

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem

      Thank you so much Vino… I am all for it 😂 Danny beat me to that goal unfortunately

  • @Lena-qg8bd
    @Lena-qg8bd Před měsícem +1

    WOW this is the most high quality channel i've ever seen

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před měsícem

      Glad you think so Lena… some day CZcams will find out, too……… hopefully 😅

    • @Lena-qg8bd
      @Lena-qg8bd Před měsícem

      @@MediaDivision the video was insane... wow

  • @GaryFerrao
    @GaryFerrao Před rokem +15

    Your videos explaining photography in such a scientific, yet fun, way is one of a kind!~ Thank you for creating these.

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem

      Very much our pleasure Gary. Thank you for supporting us and being so kind.

  • @RyanFishME
    @RyanFishME Před rokem +3

    A ticket to the movies indeed. Thank you for making transparent your hard work, and the beautifully hybrid scientific and creative world that is cinematography!

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem

      Thank you so much Ryan … I wish I could hand out some popcorn to all those getting that "ticket". We salut you! You make it possible!

  • @zahishowkat6561
    @zahishowkat6561 Před rokem +2

    highly underrated video, as of writing this the video has been up for 2 weeks and only has 243k views
    the project deserves soo much more

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem

      Thanks a lot... we can always use more views. Spread the word?! In the end, it is a very small audience this kind of video appeals to.

  • @chaoticblankness
    @chaoticblankness Před rokem +1

    I love you, man. This channel is so special.

  • @HoangQBui
    @HoangQBui Před rokem +8

    Discovered your channel through this video. The pacing, production, explanations, and everything else are nothing short of extraordinary and professional. You've easily earned my support and I look forward to watching your previous and future content.

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +1

      Thank a lot for your support Hoang. The Team and I salute you. We also thank you for your kindness. We hope you enjoy a nice long binge watch session! These videos are for you!

  • @MaridK
    @MaridK Před rokem +19

    I really appreciate the amount of work that goes into making these video. Incredible amount of info.
    Thank you so much!

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +1

      Thank Madrid… this was pure pain to produce ;-) Enjoy

  • @atindrabiswasDP
    @atindrabiswasDP Před rokem +2

    Thanks for existing ❤️
    Merry Christmas 🎅 🎄

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +1

      Thanks Atindra… thanks for hanging… happy new Year

    • @atindrabiswasDP
      @atindrabiswasDP Před rokem +1

      @@MediaDivision Happy new year to you too 😊🙏🎆 and you're most welcome ❤️

  • @davyj1982
    @davyj1982 Před měsícem +1

    A fantastic and informative episode. I teach Light & Optics at a University, and the way you visually explain the depth of field and equivalency of lenses is exceptionally good! I'll be sending my students your way in the future.......

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před měsícem

      Thank you so much for your kindness… and thank you for sending by viewers. I am very happy that our work is appreciated by professional educators like yourself.

  • @adamkovarik
    @adamkovarik Před rokem +10

    Your channel is one of the best out there and the production quality is unmatched. I am amazed with every new video you drop. Keep up the good work!

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +1

      Thank you very much Adam… really appreciate your kindness, motivation and your financial support of course. We salute you! Hope you had a great Xmas

  • @AyushBakshi
    @AyushBakshi Před rokem +4

    This is the first, probably last, video on CZcams that kept me hooked for ~40 minutes straight (i skipped a few parts) in this year.
    Glad I found a content creator who educates and captures breathtaking videos.
    Keep up 👌🏻

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +1

      That doesn't sound good for the platform ;-) Thanks a lot man… will try!

  • @abogoni
    @abogoni Před 3 měsíci +1

    spy plain lens - i know what movie im watching tonight 🍿
    wow - this is sooooo good - the editing the content the framing ❤

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Thanks a lot Abogoni … so glad you appreciate what and how we are doing it. Nice to have you around!

  • @destructoblog
    @destructoblog Před rokem +2

    Oh hell yes can't wait

  • @jackthehatphoto
    @jackthehatphoto Před rokem +55

    How this channel doesn't have 1+ million subscribers is beyond comprehension. Well done guys. Another amazingly interesting and incredibly well produced production.

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +3

      Thanks a lot Jack… well, to few nerds in the world?!? Or maybe we are not good enough in spreading the word. Always happy for the support of our nerds around here. Merry Xmas

    • @spidermann5000
      @spidermann5000 Před rokem +1

      i guess its to long for some, you need time to watch and an above goldfish attention span.

    • @ypierro
      @ypierro Před rokem

      This channel is just insane, but they're probably doing over-quality: to scale up, they'd need to produce content more people can enjoy while dropping their cost basis. Basically like PewDiePie testing a video game in his couch, every single day lol.
      Depends what you want: money, or building a camera.

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +4

      @@ypierro with this attitude the world would be all about piling up more and more shit. There is a place for things that matter… things with soul… and I refuse to believe otherwise.

  • @Jwats96
    @Jwats96 Před rokem +7

    Each episode you guys post is somehow even better than the last. This is seriously the best channel on youtube when it comes to photography and filmmaking. This was awesome and I'm already thinking about how many different ways you could use this technique. Super cool and thanks for sharing!

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem

      We really hope to get better with every episode… and every episode we invest more heart soul, money, time. It has to stop at some point. Thank you for your appreciation and kindness Jason

  • @WilliamLeoKlein
    @WilliamLeoKlein Před 2 měsíci +1

    This was some of the most impressive videography I've seen so far. Especially watching the HDR version on my 3000nits screen was truly breathtaking.
    And great video overall too! 👍👍👍🎉💪

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před 2 měsíci

      Thanks a lot William… very happy you think so. Always happy to create something uniquely good for you people out there.

  • @DickyBalboa
    @DickyBalboa Před rokem

    I think Media Division is the most underrated youtube channel about technical side of cinema.

  • @radostinlazarov6330
    @radostinlazarov6330 Před rokem +3

    I think this is the most valuable video I've seen in years. I'm a focus puller and I work on hundreds of gigs per year with every tech money can buy (for that I'm grateful) and yet this is so far beyond anything we've done. The build you made was pure gold and the focusing solution made me say "wow" out loud👏👏👏 Thank you for the walk trough and detail!

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +1

      That is wonderful to hear Radostin… we very much appreciate the input of a professional in this matter. Glad you found it useful. I was the one pulling focus and it was surprisingly manageable in the given context … DON'T try this with fast and unpredictable movements. The slow but constant movement helps a ton. Just like in Barry Lyndon… stage the scenes to fit the technological needs and you are good. Thanks again for interacting and hanging around .

    • @Skrenja
      @Skrenja Před rokem

      Imagine trying to pull focus on this thing though. It would nearly be impossible on a moving subject. 🤣

  • @Askaly
    @Askaly Před rokem +3

    The amount of work in this video is incredible. Huge respect

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem

      Yes. I have to admit it was bone and brain crushing. Thanks man!!

  • @amermeleitor
    @amermeleitor Před rokem +2

    You are magnificently crazy!

  • @user-fl1tq5mi4y
    @user-fl1tq5mi4y Před rokem +2

    There was a video from DIY Perks 4 month ago about the same article. But his lens was 0.4f)

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +2

      His lens was EQUIVALENT to f0.4 on FF just like ours… equivalency only makes sense when combined with a format
      DIYPerks mention number XXX… as this comes up a lot, here is a standard answer:
      We built this camera long before DIY perks posted their video, and we got the posts to prove that all over the place. I don't know if we inspired their built or if that is a pure coincidence.
      While it also also a DoF adapter design these camera are very different beast.
      Also, we use our camera for what it is supposed to do… film something worth watching.
      The episode gives us the opportunity to teach about the equivalency of lenses and other interesting things, the camera built itself is just a vehicle to do that.

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem

      @Malik
      www.reddit.com/r/cinematography/comments/sniy5y/impossible_dof_in_video_a_lens_equivalent_to_a/
      11 month ago! 7 Month before the DIYPerks video
      It is still there.
      Don't bring you Reddit behavior to CZcams. This is not Troll county
      As I don't want to spent more than a minute of my life discussing with passive aggressive… or openly aggressive people I will just block you.
      Live long and prosper

  • @Scyth3934
    @Scyth3934 Před rokem +5

    I LOVE the production quality on your videos! This is literally better than any Netflix documentary out there! Keep it up!

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +1

      Thanks… why is Netflix not calling…………… darn!!!

  • @krishguptx
    @krishguptx Před rokem +4

    I am genuinely always astounded by the work that you all do. By far, the highest quality of work that I have seen on this platform and I don’t mean that in terms of videography only but just the sheer dedication the team must have to present such a highly informative yet entertaining video in such a innovative way that the video in itself is a work of art. These videos must take so long and so much hard work to create and it is so evident in every second of viewing. I used to look at the duration of these videos and was demotivated to click on them due to how long they were but the second I started watching I fell in love and now always take out the time and enjoy the work of you talented artists.

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem

      Thanks a lot Krish… really appreciate your kindness and feedback. If what we do is worth anything, than it is to inspire people like

  • @Metaldetectiontubeworldwide

    Even the great ONE , Kubrick , would been blown away if he could see this video ☆☆☆☆☆
    The skill and talent you guys have , is the best i've ever seen ☆☆☆☆☆

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +1

      I really hope that was true… it would make me so so happy.
      Thank a lot man… appreciated!

    • @Metaldetectiontubeworldwide
      @Metaldetectiontubeworldwide Před rokem +1

      @@MediaDivision i'm sure of it ☆☆☆☆☆
      I wish you and your team , a very succesfull and happy 2023
      And i hope , i can enjoy your video's lots of years in the future ☆☆☆☆☆
      Grtz from the netherlands
      Johny geerts

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +1

      Thanks man… have a great 2023 too!!!!

  • @yjawhar
    @yjawhar Před rokem +2

    You have the most inspirational content on CZcams. Keep up the great work!

  • @leonlazic
    @leonlazic Před rokem +6

    First video of yours I watched. I am really impressed with the production quality and the storytelling is really nicely paced and thorough. I love it and will be watching more! Thank you for creating something different.

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +1

      Thanks a lot Leon… very glad it is for you. Please go ahead… our channel has quite a few videos in the style of this one.

  • @432vibes
    @432vibes Před rokem +18

    Amazing content guys! Always thrilled to discover what you have created. Really inspiring and educational. Thanks a lot and wonderful Christmas to you all! 🙏🎄

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem

      Thanks a lot for your kindness and your support Vibes… very much appreciated. We love and salute you! Hope you had a great Christmas and wish you a happy new year!

  • @alex_montoya
    @alex_montoya Před rokem +1

    That was pretty amazing

  • @PepekBezlepek
    @PepekBezlepek Před rokem +1

    you guys are light magicians ♥♥

  • @kylerules1311
    @kylerules1311 Před 7 měsíci

    worth every second watching this

  • @vaingloriousdemure
    @vaingloriousdemure Před rokem +7

    Super awesome project! Love large format and it's so cool to see it used like this. Great behind the scenes too

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem

      Thanks a lot for your support and your kind words. Very happy you enjoy what we do!

  • @sramosmedia
    @sramosmedia Před rokem +8

    Great job, as always; I can't imagine the amount of work you guys do to produce content like this.

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem

      Thanks man… it is… alooooooot. This one was hard

  • @maphirotron
    @maphirotron Před 6 měsíci +1

    Incredible production quality of this video!

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Thanks a lot man… really appreciate your kindness and interacting!

  • @zombiedude6699
    @zombiedude6699 Před rokem +1

    I am in love with what this channel creates

  • @KhoPhi
    @KhoPhi Před rokem +4

    Thanks!
    Edit: Not much to say thanks, but this is the most beautifully produced camera-hardware-related technical video I've seen in a long while. This question has been something I've wondered about before, regarding how wider (or lower f-stop) will be physically possible. Absolutely fascinating documentary. Insightful! Kudos for the breakdowns too, not that I'll possibly ever be in a position to replicate in my lifetime, I guess, but the thinking process involved in the building is definitely appreciated.
    Edit 2: And surprisingly, giving my first ever CZcams thanks to a channel I saw for the first time, on their first video I watched. The algorithm must be algorithm-ing indeed

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +1

      Thank you so much KhoPhi! We very much appreciate your contribution. The Division salutes you. This is for you!

  • @SNW_Build_a_Picture
    @SNW_Build_a_Picture Před rokem +5

    truly a channel un like any other. i do a lot of close up shots, stop motion stuff, and i can get these effects with normal lenses since they are all close ups. i have always seen the narrow focus plain as a problem, but watching this, i think i should use it as an advantage when needed.

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +4

      Totally aware of the problem. You might be interested in "the impossible lens Part 2 - infinite DoF" - thinking about it

    • @SNW_Build_a_Picture
      @SNW_Build_a_Picture Před rokem

      @@MediaDivision Im guessing it will take a while, but Im also guessing it will be a dam worth while vid :)

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +1

      You bet…. And we hope ;-)

  • @mrshaheedmalik
    @mrshaheedmalik Před rokem +1

    A streaming platform should put Media Division on their platform.

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem

      I am all for it………………………… where are they?!?

  • @area51pictures
    @area51pictures Před rokem

    Looks like Christmas came early this year! Yeah, so for my money? This is your masterpiece. It's not selling anything. This genuinely is (and comparison is always reductive but at least to me, an American) your show is much more Mythbusters or Bill Nye - for anyone interested in image-making. They got people excited about stuff. You do too. But you man? You go WAY past them. You soar leagues past. You're the one with the Kubrickian attention to detail. A must-watch for anyone who finds the science of picture-making fascinating. This episode, too, did it with a challenging topic. Any seasoned master of information delivery would struggle. You don't make it look like a piece of cake! Better. You make it FEEL like one. Thank you for taking extra time on this to elaborate more how others can contribute to this channel & its growth. This is what everyones contributions actually enable. Absolutely astounding. Can I also highlight? You bust your ass. You use all the brainpower you have. In this day and age, that's a rare quality. The programs you make truly arouse curiosities. ALSO The Iron Sea also is a legit work of art. Functions completely on its own merit. Not even blowing smoke. Beautiful piece. SO glad I joined the Division. Cheers from LA, Soren.

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +1

      Hey Soren… just to get that out of the way… thank you so much for your support and for being a member… but more, way more for writing us this. It is beautiful and really encapsulate everything that we strive for. This is one to frame and hang on the wall (instead of that lousy Creator Award) to remind us WHAT we should do and WHY we should do it. If it is worth anything, it is that you, and other like you feel this way about our work. Very inspirational for me… and for the whole team.
      We salute you Soren! Thank you!
      Have a very wondeful 2023

  • @scottsfowler
    @scottsfowler Před rokem +4

    I think this is basically the same concept that DIY Perks used in one of his videos. But I love the in depth explanation of this Media Division video. Such a cool concept and the results were crazy!! I am going to make one some day

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +1

      Yes… like we and dozens of others did before them.
      We definitely did this more for the image we could create with it and the teaching opportunity it gives rather than the camera built itself.

    • @CableWrestler
      @CableWrestler Před rokem

      What's this technique called?
      I'd like to research more information.

  • @Behrdie
    @Behrdie Před rokem +5

    So awesome! These episodes showcase so much creative energy! Super inspirational as always!

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +2

      Thanks a lot Brandon… as a supporter you well deserve the inspiration. Very happy you like it! Merry Xmas.

  • @oatwdk4029
    @oatwdk4029 Před rokem +1

    It was 53.38 minutes that was really valuable.
    I respect you. 👍🏻

  • @gerardoteruya6192
    @gerardoteruya6192 Před rokem +1

    This is worth more than gold

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem

      Really???? Give me all you GOLD!!!! Cheers mate… appreciated

    • @gerardoteruya6192
      @gerardoteruya6192 Před rokem

      Join my minecraft server, I have lots of gold and diamonds 🤑

  • @keylanph
    @keylanph Před rokem +7

    Incredible production! Thank you for doing what you do!

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem

      Again?!?!… I hope this was not a mistake?! Tell me if we can pay you back. In any case… thank you so much!!!

  • @MarcoRistuccia
    @MarcoRistuccia Před rokem +4

    As usual, astonishing content. Thank you for keeping up with such beautiful episodes!

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +1

      Thanks a lot Marco… we appreciate your kindness. Always trying to improve

  • @pavlosavagianos6398
    @pavlosavagianos6398 Před rokem +1

    Ευχαριστούμε!

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem

      Thank you so much Pavlos… really appreciate your contribution to our mission.… the Division salutes you!!!

  • @James.G.S
    @James.G.S Před rokem

    "One should try before giving up". Very well said!

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem

      Glad you think so too… so many comments are immediately about "impossibility" to focus… I found it manageable. Thank you so much for your generosity and support James! We salut you. Marry Xmas

  • @leofriedrich
    @leofriedrich Před rokem +9

    Super excited to watch the whole video. @DIYPerks build a really similar thing from what I can tell from the intro.

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +6

      First to mention the DIYPerks video in these comments… as it will happen 2564 times… here a standard answer:
      We built this camera long before DIY perks posted their video, and we got the posts to prove that all over the place. I don't know if we inspired their built or if that is a pure coincidence.
      While it also also a DoF adapter design these camera are very different beast.
      Also, we use our camera for what it is supposed to do… film something worth watching.
      The episode gives us the opportunity to teach about the equivalency of lenses and other interesting things, the camera built itself is just a vehicle to do that.

    • @leofriedrich
      @leofriedrich Před rokem +4

      @@MediaDivision Okay look I dont really care who inspired what, I enjoyed your video as much as theirs. Its super interesting and great to have such an in-depth video from you guys. No need to get defensive.

  • @HDCAMAN
    @HDCAMAN Před rokem +4

    Always the most incredible videos ever on this channel

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +2

      Thanks. Trying hard to get better each and every time… thanks for hanging!

  • @pikzi
    @pikzi Před rokem +2

    Time to put daily life on hold and watch the new media division release 3 times in a row

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem

      That is the spirit… I am all for it ;-)

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +1

      And Thanks a ton for being a Kubrick of course… enjoy your shout out in the end… cost me a night to do ;-)

  • @charming_and_granite
    @charming_and_granite Před rokem +1

    Ugh. Wow. Incredible.

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem

      Thanks a lot Aspect Ratio... are you a wide or a tall aspect ratio???? ;-)

  • @SpaceMupfl3D
    @SpaceMupfl3D Před rokem +5

    Your Videos are just absolute gold! Thank you for producing such high quality Videos. One can totally see the love to the craft! Keep it up und Frohe Weihnachten!

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem

      It is absolutely our pleasure. It's priceless to share it with people like you who appreciate the work.
      Thank you for your kindness and your support.

  • @izzieb
    @izzieb Před rokem +5

    I remember using DIY depth of field adapters with the old Canon cameras like the XL1 😁. Enjoyed using those back then. People would use those clear fake CDs and sand them down, then spin those. A Fresnel lens would be used on the lens side to reduce vignette.
    Also, groves? i assume it was meant to be grooves?

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +1

      I have that DoF adapter from my times with the DXX100… but you really wouldn't use fresnels here… the system is small enough for glass lenses
      Also, english is not my first language, and my german orthography is bad already… just ignore any kind of spelling errors

    • @jpiersma
      @jpiersma Před rokem +2

      Yup, I remember making one out of a old focusing screen and some pvc pipe. Still love the canon FD 50mm ssc 1.4 I picked up for that build.

  • @mehdikhadouj8935
    @mehdikhadouj8935 Před rokem +1

    this youtube channel is really incredible... it's a gift for producer like me to find this kind of video and for free ! Thank you Media Division !

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem

      Thanks man… glad you find it useful! It is totally our pleasure.

  • @salvadorfilms
    @salvadorfilms Před 11 měsíci +1

    This is a masterpiece

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Thanks a lot… I hope we have many masterpieces… every time a new one… at least that is what we are going for. Thanks for hanging

  • @Tekazurik
    @Tekazurik Před rokem +3

    Such cool content. Nothing else like it on CZcams. Keep up the great work!

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem

      Thanks for your kindness, motivation, and contribution… the Division salutes you!!!

  • @benintheussr9094
    @benintheussr9094 Před rokem +6

    God, I can't believe the quality of your videography. You truly are a master videographer.

    • @shaynecosby5625
      @shaynecosby5625 Před rokem +2

      *cinematography

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem +1

      Thanks a lot Ben… appreciated. I am cool with the term BTW. These days… it means pretty much the same.

  • @TheCrafsMan
    @TheCrafsMan Před rokem +1

    Oh man, I'm FLOORED by this. Incredible job! The image you get from this is so strange and surreal. I could see this being used in a film during, say, a dream or hallucination sequence or to otherwise give the viewer a totally different feeling. Really a beautiful and strange look. Phenomenal job!

    • @TheCrafsMan
      @TheCrafsMan Před rokem

      In the early 2000s I built 35mm (and medium format) DOF adapters using cheap picture frame glass or blank UV filters ground in an aluminum oxide and water slurry, using increasingly finer grits, placed against a planoconvex condenser type lens to even out the brightness. For video work, the static grain inevitably leads to figuring out how to oscillate/rotate/vibrate it (P+S Technic I think did this first with their rotating ground glass) which eventually lead some of us to trying things like wax sandwiched between two pieces of glass, for a super fine grain. *Still nowhere NEAR the level of what you have accomplished here!*

    • @MediaDivision
      @MediaDivision  Před rokem

      Thanks a lot… OR in an oxygen deprived vision!
      The 8x10 really is beneficial in the grain department but I have to say, the Letus GG has stunningly small grain… almost invisible without rotation or vibration. I just think, that it wouldn't be sturdy enough in 8x10.
      Thanks for your kindness and your input!

  • @pg205
    @pg205 Před rokem +1

    That's what I call a Christmas Present! Incredible work of Art!