The Routine Landing That Went Horribly Wrong | Air India Flight 890

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    This is the story of air india flight 890. Now this video is a companion video to my other video on spicejet 256, if you haven seen that one then id highly recommend that you watch it. This video will shed some light on how that one happened . On the 5th of january 2014, the skies of dehi werent having a particularly good time, it was smoggy and cloudy to the point where planes were having trouble just getting close to the airport. On this day air india flight 890 was making the flight from delhi to guwahati and then back again. The flight to guwahati was fine and while on the ground at guwahati the pilots were provided with the weather at delhi, like with the pilots of spicejet flight 256 these pilots too knew that the weather at delhi was bad and that they might have to divert to get around some bar weather at delhi. Their alternates for the day was jaipur and lucknow, with lucknow being the primary diversion airport and jaipur being the secondary diversion airport. On the ground the pilots were running the numbers to see how much fuel theyd need for the trip the data told them that theyd need about 12.2 tons or about 24,000 pounds of fuel for the trip but since the weather around delhi was bad the captain decided to add an extra 500 kilos or about a 1000 pounds of fuel. With that done the pilots took the A320 into the air and they charted course for delhi, ATC took a while but they eventually cleared flight 890 upto their cruising altitude. By the time the plane was in contact with delhi ATC the visibility on each of the runways at dehi was starting to fall, some were below minima and some were right at the border of what was viable. Due to the mess that was the weather above delhi the plane was put into a holding pattern over delhi for the next 25 minutes and even when they did break out of the holding pattern they would be 12th in line to land, so its not stretch to say that these pilots would not be landing any time soon. At about this point most pilots would start looking at the weather at their alternates but these pilots did not. With them starting to creep on the minimum fuel required to make it to make it to jaipur the pilots decided to divert, at the time of the diversion the weather at jaipur was favorable. But on their way in as the plane was closing in on jaipur the weather there also started to go bad, the visibility was starting to fall there as well. Like by the time the plane was 25 DME away from jaipur the controllers straight up told the pilots that the weather at jaipur was falling fast, but these pilots now had to land at jaipur due to their fuel situation, much like the crew of spicejet flight 256 these pilots had no where else to go, jaipur was their only option regardless of the weather.they did not have the fuel to go to ahmedabad another airport that was close by, they couldnt land at jodhpur that was an airforce base and that just just left jaipur as their only true available option for this landing. The weather was so bad that a plane in front of air india flight 890 diverted to ahmedabad but that wasnt an option for flight 890, they had to land here. With that the crew of flight 890 lined up with the runway at jaipur, they said that they could make out the lights of the runway through the fog, thinking that they were seeing the runway they took the plane below the minium decision altitude, the altitude that you should not go below if you don't see the runway. The captain disengaed the autopilot and took manual control of the plane, he was desperate to put this plane on the ground. But unknown to him the plane started tracking to the left of the runway it was no longer lined up with the runway but in the high stress environment of the cockpit no one noticed that the plane was deviating to the left of the runway and so the plane continued to lose altitude till it touched down on the soft ground next to the runway. But the crew didnt really know what had happened as the visibility was 0 at the time of touch down they had no idea what had happened. As the plane was trying to slow down the left wing of the a320 sliced thought some trees that were on the side of the airport. The A320 finally came to a stop near the left hand side
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  • @SimonWallwork
    @SimonWallwork Před rokem +46

    I was operating to Jaipur at this time. There was no CAT III here, but these guys tried to use it, but with a manual landing. They should have let the AP do the landing and worried about it later. They were trying to cover their asses. I would've declared an emergency, and let the AP do its best for a CATIII with my finger hovering above the AP Disc button.

    • @sailaab
      @sailaab Před rokem +2

      Lol!
      ‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏ ‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏ ‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏ ‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏ ‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏Bharat mein aap ka swaagat hai!🙏🏼
      ‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏ ‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏ ‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏ ‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏ ‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏ Welcome to India!
      .
      We are the place.. where even atheists become believers!
      They too are like, he'll no! This thing (the country, the whole of South Asia actually) can only still be around (and not annihilate itself.. due to some supernatural entity!😅
      .
      Thank you for sharing what you might have done as a cockpit crew... had you been pinned against the wall in such a crazy situation.

    • @SimonWallwork
      @SimonWallwork Před rokem +1

      @@sailaab Haha. It's a crazy place but I like India very much. Hope to be back in a month or so with Indian Wife.

    • @phantomf41
      @phantomf41 Před rokem

      You mean cat III full auto land?

    • @SimonWallwork
      @SimonWallwork Před rokem

      @@phantomf41 CAT IIIB, full autoland, min RVR 50metres.

    • @deoryisnoob
      @deoryisnoob Před rokem

      yea exactly, i just don’t get why they dsc ap, they could have easily landed with auto land

  • @hamentaschen
    @hamentaschen Před rokem +6

    "The sea was angry that day my friends, like an old man trying to send back soup in a deli."

  • @KEEGUNATOR
    @KEEGUNATOR Před rokem +7

    I only realized at 5:00 that this was the follow up to the Spice jet episode.. wow you are fast!

  • @buffalomerkis7603
    @buffalomerkis7603 Před rokem +43

    I worked for a large Indian company. It’s a very Indian attitude to just think everything is fine and will be ok.
    Don’t get me wrong, it’s a good thing to have a positive outlook on life, but this should be tempered with real world planning.

    • @dranilbabuswarna
      @dranilbabuswarna Před rokem +5

      As an Indian i agree with you.. we have been paralysed by our mindset in every field.. change is due..

    • @gumnaamaadmi007
      @gumnaamaadmi007 Před rokem +7

      Nice of you to paint 1.4 Billion of us with the same brush. I worked for a large American company for years. The culture(and it's a huge allowance from my side to call the environment that) was toxic, my manager was a micromanaging piece of shit and his boss was an ignoramus of the highest order who was a rubber stamp. I quit after a couple of years and am having the time of my life in an Indian startup. But do I think that all Americans are like that? Nope.

    • @giyanvice
      @giyanvice Před rokem

      @@gumnaamaadmi007 You have that typical Indian attitude so you should have never worked for any American company.
      Those Indian pilots are also having the time of their life in India right now, until one day hundreds of people will be dead when the plane crashes.

    • @petert3343
      @petert3343 Před rokem

      I.T. projects are affected by this culture.

    • @gettothepoint2707
      @gettothepoint2707 Před rokem +3

      You couldn't have said it better. Indians do have a tendency to leave everything upon God and karma. (I'm an Indian btw, so I'd know). And now they've done it with a commercial airliner. Can we get any more careless? Do better India.

  • @enigmawyoming5201
    @enigmawyoming5201 Před rokem +6

    If I ever go to India I hope I remind myself that their TRAIN system is very comprehensive , safe and COMPETENT!!!

    • @gettothepoint2707
      @gettothepoint2707 Před rokem +3

      Maybe even safer than air travel. Seriously, someone needs to do this comparison for India specially.

  • @SyedMasoomMumeen
    @SyedMasoomMumeen Před rokem +24

    Thank you! Although having a crash video on a flight originating from my home airport (GAU) is not something I ever aspired to see, but it still feels good to have the crash covered.

    • @killerdove123
      @killerdove123 Před rokem +3

      As another person with Guwahati as my home airport, I share your thoughts 🙂

    • @enigmawyoming5201
      @enigmawyoming5201 Před rokem +4

      I hope you guys have good train connections into Guwahati!
      EDIT: Oh crap, I just now researched how far New Delhi is from Guwahati! Train ride of about 34 hours! I understand better now.

    • @SaugotChowdhury
      @SaugotChowdhury Před rokem

      Another one

    • @enigmawyoming5201
      @enigmawyoming5201 Před rokem

      @@SaugotChowdhury Flrgitne sans blah con hugnetsh gutless dugrenesh bullshittish flrthing quantnkik viktutuntutialick.

  • @Coldinwis
    @Coldinwis Před rokem +67

    Thanks for making this video for us!!
    I’m dumbfounded at how irresponsible it seems everyone involved in this flight was! The most shocking thing bout this flight was not how they landed but how people were able to walk away from such a badly executed flight!
    Hopefully this incident caused some major changes in all departments.

    • @giyanvice
      @giyanvice Před rokem +1

      If this incident had caused some major changes in all departments then you would had heard about it in the international breaking news.
      India is a failed country.

    • @pantherleo3261
      @pantherleo3261 Před rokem +3

      @@giyanvice The handling was indeed atrocious, but to call India a failure is absurd.

    • @gumnaamaadmi007
      @gumnaamaadmi007 Před rokem

      School shootings in the US happen on a WAY larger frequency that aviation incidents in India. I guess the US is a failed country too.

    • @giyanvice
      @giyanvice Před rokem

      @@pantherleo3261 If a country loses its respect from the people around the world then it is 100 percent a failed country.
      India will always remain a failed country because of zero major changes.

    • @pantherleo3261
      @pantherleo3261 Před rokem

      @@giyanvice Looks like you are speaking without experience. Anyway, you are entitled to your opinion. That does not make it a fact.

  • @kurtwinter4422
    @kurtwinter4422 Před rokem +8

    Thanks for the follow up

  • @mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311

    I mean, it just reeks of institutional laziness and incompetence. Everything from the airline not rostering a captain with suitably up-to-date training for Cat3 landings, the pilots not doing the flight plan - and guestimating the amount of fuel to load - ultimately forcing a landing in very suboptimal weather, the various ATCs en route which either assumed somebody else had given weather info - or just couldn't be bothered - the pilots themselves also failing to make adequate and timely enquiries about the same and a lack of skill and focus to achieve the landing that was ultimately required, including the twitch on the sidestick causing the plane to roll left which, at that point was at a distance where even an apparently minute variance with the approach direction can take the plane off the runway. Finally, it seems very likely that cost to the airline was considered and perhaps even more so, the inconvenience (for the passengers but most of all, to themselves, the flight crew) of diverting to Lucknow fed into their decision-making. I see from some other Comments that the airline now has new owners which, if so, is an opportunity for all processes to be looked at with a fresh set of eyes and for areas of weakness to be identified and suitable changes implemented....
    Yet another reason I get quite annoyed by various smooth, suave and charming (albeit in fairness to them, I am sure highly qualified, experienced and professional!) epauletted characters on CZcams who coo reassuringly about how "we're trained for that". The frequency with which one can view on aviation-related sites, astounding examples of pure slapdashery tells me differently.....

  • @mas1485
    @mas1485 Před rokem +2

    Hey, thanks for making this video. Highly appreciated.

  • @williamwordsworth5671
    @williamwordsworth5671 Před rokem +79

    The buck stops with the captain. Irrespective of failures at other levels, it is just not acceptable that a captain allows his airplane to land up in such a horrible situation. The safety of the airplane and passengers is the ultimate responsibility of the captain. Air India is one carrier which has had the maximum number of accidents and incidents in Indian aviation, and I do sincerely hope that with the Tatas taking over this decrepit and ramshackle behemoth, things will be set right again soon.

    • @misseselise3864
      @misseselise3864 Před rokem +7

      agreed. the pilot knew better, he just didn’t care to correct the errors. the pilot, co pilot, ATC, and many others had more than enough time to correct the fuck ups. the crew is just trying to put all of the blame on ATC and the airline by acting like their hands were tied

    • @paulsz6194
      @paulsz6194 Před rokem +6

      There was no mention of any operational runway lights during the poor weather and also I’m suprised that there would be a tree so close to the runway for the plane’s wing to collide into.

    • @juliemanarin4127
      @juliemanarin4127 Před rokem +2

      These pilots failed miserably!

  • @cpt_nordbart
    @cpt_nordbart Před rokem +10

    I guess it was complacency. "Why check fuel? We all know how much we have. So why bother?"
    Basically a "it'll work out, it always has" attitude.

  • @pickles3128
    @pickles3128 Před rokem +11

    Anyone else think, "Wait, New Dehli, Lucknow airport, diversions due to awful visibility -- this must be a re-upload -- perhaps to correct an error?" before he mentioned the SpiceJet incident? "Oh yeah, and this is the "sequel" with the other plane!"

    • @briant7265
      @briant7265 Před rokem +2

      Prequel. 😏

    • @schlollepop
      @schlollepop Před rokem

      Same here. Just that the departure airport did not feel right. And I was not disappointed.
      No wonder SpiceJet and the other private airlines have taken quite some market share from Air India. Having used them domestically, I am still asking myself why I should do this again.

  • @MBkufel
    @MBkufel Před rokem +1

    Wow, you'r so quick to deliver with this one!
    Thank you

  • @DomCombatVids
    @DomCombatVids Před rokem +8

    The difference of skill of almost everyone involved in this flight is immensely contrasted by the incredible amount of skill of everyone involved with the Jet Airways flight that almost crashed because of this flight (the previous video). Astounding

  • @b.t.356
    @b.t.356 Před rokem +8

    I am so grateful that you made this video, fren! A lot about this weirded me out. Glad that everyone got out in one piece, though.

  • @mattc.310
    @mattc.310 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for uploading this as a companion video to the SpiceJet 256 video. I was curious but somehow not surprised at how that aircraft ended up where it was. Glad no fatalities were the result of the issues causing this incident.

  • @ianr
    @ianr Před rokem +1

    Thanks for posting this so quickly. 👏🙂

  • @WideLoad405
    @WideLoad405 Před rokem +1

    Yes! Thanks for making this!

  • @gettothepoint2707
    @gettothepoint2707 Před rokem +1

    You're the first non-Assamese person to pronounce Guwahati correctly. Kudos to you!

  • @Ambrosius09
    @Ambrosius09 Před rokem +2

    I was waiting for itttt!

  • @tachin2.07
    @tachin2.07 Před rokem +3

    I just finished watching the first part when this video aired
    Perfect Timing

  • @TommyTheWalker
    @TommyTheWalker Před rokem +1

    On 27 June 1980, Itavia Flight 870 was shot down over tyrenianian sea

  • @whoever6458
    @whoever6458 Před rokem +17

    Geez, even I check the weather and I'm a gardener, not a pilot. I read the METAR for pilots too and, whenever I get on a plane as a passenger, I always check the weather en route, not that I can do anything about it but because I'd like to know. Hell, I look at the weather en route for flights other people I know are on. I wonder whether the pilots of all these flights were just burnt out with their jobs. It can happen to anyone but it's worse when you work in a safety-critical job, some of which I have also held, albeit sadly only on the ground on various emergencies crews.

    • @nk7155
      @nk7155 Před rokem +2

      I thought I was the rare one who did all this. Sometimes, I reschedule my trips if weather looks bad. I look at satellite weather mostly. Checking the areas of green, blue red etc. Thanks for backing me up.

    • @revenevan11
      @revenevan11 Před rokem +1

      Ayy, I'm loving this comment and reply of fellow super weather-aware people!
      Do either of y'all watch the CZcamsr Ryan Hall?

    • @whoever6458
      @whoever6458 Před rokem

      @@revenevan11 Yep, I watch his channel.

    • @dd_ranchtexas4501
      @dd_ranchtexas4501 Před rokem +1

      Who Ever: "some of which I have also held, albeit sadly only on the ground on
      various emergencies crews"
      Never be sad about anything about being a member of an emergency crew!
      The rest of us need you and hopefully respect you for what you do,,,,,,

    • @whoever6458
      @whoever6458 Před rokem

      @@dd_ranchtexas4501 The sad part is getting burnt out over the job. I never got the chance because I crashed a motorcycle and then couldn't lift patients anymore because I ripped off all the ligaments in my shoulder. I tried to become a doctor and got some great grades in college even, but I think that independent minds aren't wanted anywhere until we become existentially necessary and I guess that hasn't happened yet.

  • @davewave1982
    @davewave1982 Před rokem +5

    What pilot in their right mind would disconnect the AP on final on ils in cat 3 conditions?

  • @vladutnitoiu6370
    @vladutnitoiu6370 Před rokem +1

    Awesome video!

  • @rilmar2137
    @rilmar2137 Před rokem +2

    Thanks for the follow up!

  • @naughtiusmaximus830
    @naughtiusmaximus830 Před rokem +15

    I’m thinking you could do a daily show on India, Pakistan and Turkey.

    • @naughtiusmaximus830
      @naughtiusmaximus830 Před rokem +2

      Nothing beats the Pakistan airlines pilot/crew that forgot to put the gear down, bashed the engines and decided to try a go around.

  • @hack1n8r
    @hack1n8r Před rokem +24

    This was/is a company culture problem that starts at the head, and trickles down. If the head isn't healthy, neither will be the rest of the body.
    Because CAT II/III approaches are *only* performed in near zero visibility, there are really no visual cues that can be relied upon. Therefore, only the flight director can be used by the pilot to guide the plane in. Had the capt. done that, he would have landed on the runway.
    Also, only the Captain is permitted fly CAT II/III approaches, and only if he/she has the required special training. All of those factors must be considered during flight planning, and in this case, the flight crew was completely inappropriate for this flight.

    • @sailaab
      @sailaab Před rokem +1

      Ma'am/Sir, unsure if you have ever been in India,
      but I have lived most of my life in India.
      It isn't just the company culture alone... but the typical 'desi' (South Asian) culture.
      The 'it's okay' (chalta hai) attitude.
      .
      Just to quote an example outside of aviation.
      .
      We are now more than two decades into the twenty-first century.
      .
      But God forbid if something untoward happens to someone and the investigative agencies are brought in into the picture..
      ... then whatever forensic investigations or routine investigations they (police, crime branch, CBI) do...
      ... even a toddler/ one year old kid would laugh at it.
      .
      Because even a casual viewer of Crime shows on T.V. or a kindergarten kid would do a better job of not accidentally destroying evidence or completely missing it.
      .
      Coupled with that... the general psyche of 'fait accompli'... results in EVERYone giving a damn about EVERYthing.
      .
      Again.. an example outside of aviation.
      .
      Senior citizen members within my own family... wouldn't wear the phucking seat belt...even when they themselves are driving a passenger car.
      Ditto with high-handed drivers of top police personnel or local politicians.
      .
      .
      And if anyone thinks that errant people in our erstwhile national carrier (Air India) would even be reprimanded... then you couldn't be more wrong.
      .
      .
      Forget getting even a rap on the knuckles... unless some toothless tiger like the 'Directorate General of Civil Aviation' in India wakes up... the company/airline would merrily continue pretending as if nothing has happened.
      .
      Air India (when owned by the state)... would eventually even promote or prop up cockpit crew/ captains who took their families for free.. on intercontinental flights... by putting their families up in the 'first class'.

  • @RiskyMirror6213
    @RiskyMirror6213 Před rokem +2

    Nice video mate

  • @ahronrichards9611
    @ahronrichards9611 Před rokem +8

    First of all, thanks for making the video related to the Spicejet video, I was actually looking forward to this one. Secondly, it takes a series of actions to cause an accident, which is true in this case. Many dropped the ball, and it carried forward until they crashed. Also, while it is good to be efficient, efficiency should never be placed over safety, especially in instances where the lives of others are at play. So, yes, it would've been inefficient and inconvenient to land at Lucknow, but which is better: to land at a further airport and escape without damage or injury to plane and passengers, or land at the closer airport, and damage your plane? While I'm thankful that everyone was able to come out of this alive, this accident could've been avoided. Don't think we need another Tenerife to happen in the name of efficiency.

  • @blackandgold676
    @blackandgold676 Před rokem +2

    Long ago, after traveling in Latin America in the early 80s, I gave up traveling in anything but the "First World" and on First World airlines.

  • @ryanfrisby7389
    @ryanfrisby7389 Před rokem

    Fantastic video!

  • @paulyiustravelogue
    @paulyiustravelogue Před rokem +11

    I am not a pilot, but even I would check my routes including alternate ones on Google maps ahead of any long road trip. What the hell was wrong with these pilots? Frustrating.

    • @lazydamsel
      @lazydamsel Před rokem +1

      True that. I even checked weather averages of other countries/cities of the season to be prepared!

    • @enigmawyoming5201
      @enigmawyoming5201 Před rokem +4

      “Honey, let’s drive to your parents house. There’s a very good possibility a snow storm will hamper our trip and close the road, so let’s fill our tank up half way just to be safe”.

  • @rajaampattravel
    @rajaampattravel Před rokem

    amazing video!

  • @RichardHuffman
    @RichardHuffman Před rokem

    Thank you for the quick follow-up!!!

  • @rosua
    @rosua Před rokem +2

    thanks for the video

  • @starwarzchik112
    @starwarzchik112 Před rokem +2

    Yay I love a good prequel

  • @STPromosMusic
    @STPromosMusic Před rokem

    Noice, now we have the other part of the story, quicker than expected too : P

  • @BlueAirways
    @BlueAirways Před rokem +2

    Cool Video

  • @spetzspas
    @spetzspas Před rokem

    0:23 Holy moly what a rotation, pax gonna get whiplash

  • @redrust3
    @redrust3 Před rokem +1

    A friend of mine who is a retired Marine with 30,000+ hours in multi engine and rotary wing. he’s always included over 10 years as a commercial airline pilot. Years ago, he gave a check flight to a retired Indian army helicopter pilot who claimed 5000 hours. Sadly, on one of his first tour helicopter flights, that flight pilot flew his helicopter with a half dozen passengers into a canyon wall, killing all on board. although he seemed fully qualified, he failed to account for treacherous winds coming in our Hawaii mountains and valleys. He says the Indian pilot should’ve climbed straight up, before trying to cross the steep valley walls. He was shaking his head for the rest of his life. The only fatality where he was a coworker of the pilot.

  • @calvindaggu3074
    @calvindaggu3074 Před rokem +3

    I just realised AI890 is a service from IMF-GAU-DEL lol

  • @Hfrill
    @Hfrill Před rokem +1

    Can you make a video about that one time when a Tu-134 landed at Odessa at 415km/h (224knts), where the crew violated landing procedures and broke the record for the highest civil aircraft landing speed?

  • @Fennexin
    @Fennexin Před rokem

    Thank you for making this video for us! Everyone involved in this crash is in the wrong here, wow..

  • @jamesstuart3346
    @jamesstuart3346 Před rokem +1

    I'm surprised not to see "Any landing where everyone walks away is a good landing"

  • @isaacanderson5541
    @isaacanderson5541 Před rokem +2

    I have a suggestion for you. You should remake your older videos with simulations rather than footage of the aircraft. A lot of your older videos cover a lot of very interesting air crash investigations however, in your newer videos the simulations make it more immersing and paint a better picture of the accident.
    Keep up the good work, your videos are very interesting and I learnt a about aircraft just from watching you.

  • @rameshshetty6388
    @rameshshetty6388 Před rokem +2

    Why are landing strip so narrow.there is so many space available.why are trees inside the airport .

    • @Jump-n-smash
      @Jump-n-smash Před rokem +2

      Trees give scenery bonus to adjacent rides.

  • @krishnamahadev4208
    @krishnamahadev4208 Před rokem

    Air India had two CFIT on tabletop runways one on mangalore and other in Kozikode costing many lives..

  • @savroi
    @savroi Před rokem +5

    It makes me wonder if India is waiting for a Tenerife class disaster to happen to straighten up their act. Between procedural failures, badly trained pilots and ill equipped airplanes most of them avoidable with little money and a lot of seriousness I am not sure what kind of circus they seem to be running. This machines "fly", they are not buses, a small mistake, a skip in procedures have high chances of leading to a major disaster. In this case the captain is the one to be blamed, even if the other parties made grossly mistakes for which I hope they've been at least scolded although I don't think they've been made aware. There are many other countries which don't take this matters seriously either but India has a traffic density few of this other countries match. This kind of complacency, to put it in civil words, is inadmissible.

    • @JillC2
      @JillC2 Před rokem +2

      They had one in 1996 - a midair collision between a Saudi 747 and a Kazakh Il-76.

    • @savroi
      @savroi Před rokem

      @@JillC2 Unfortunately it seems they need an "over 500" to make investing in equipment and training a must.

    • @ragnarok5074
      @ragnarok5074 Před rokem

      @@JillC2 that was because the kazakh pilot couldnot understand English properly and set his plane on wrong altitude.

    • @cowsgoloka
      @cowsgoloka Před rokem +1

      India politicians ( few rouges)always interfere with administration of sincere govt officers, and put incompetent guys at various levels based on caste and other reservations policies. This compromises safety.also.
      My dad (engineer) was a victim and decided to quit the govt job at age of 38, after few years of fight and became a private entrepreneur. You can't fight corruption and vote bank based on caste. So the cream of talents leave India after education for abroad, due to caste implications systems.

  • @Bartaaron04
    @Bartaaron04 Před rokem

    3:32 to be perfectly correct, there is no such thing as a minimum decision altitude. It’s decision altitude for precision (ILS/MLS) approaches, mor often used as decision height if it’s CAT II or III ILS approach, and it’s the altitude/height where the pilots decide whether to continue with the landing, or go around. For non-precision approaches (LOC only, VOR, NDB, RNAV/RNP), it’s minimum descent altitude/height, and it’s not the point where you decide if you’re gonna land, you have to make the decision earlier so that you don’t descend below that altitude

  • @amrendraprasad92
    @amrendraprasad92 Před rokem

    Pls make video of Alliance Sir 7412 crash near by Patna Airport.
    The flight was inbound for DELHI and Layover at Jai praksh Narayan airport, Patna

  • @siga76
    @siga76 Před rokem

    Can you do a video about Malaysia airlines flight 653?

  • @wasimsajzad9908
    @wasimsajzad9908 Před rokem

    I remember this being in news 8 years ago

  • @proksalevente
    @proksalevente Před rokem +4

    I am the most disappointed in the captain. Turning off the AP while landing in 0 visibility.

    • @K1OIK
      @K1OIK Před rokem

      AP? Air Police?

    • @senakssssarnab
      @senakssssarnab Před rokem +4

      @@K1OIK Autopilot

    • @KEEGUNATOR
      @KEEGUNATOR Před rokem +2

      @@K1OIK Autopilot, which at the time was flying the approach down to the runway, probably using the ILS (instrument landing system, it lets planes know where the runway is when you can’t see anything)

    • @K1OIK
      @K1OIK Před rokem

      @@senakssssarnab Then why didn't he say that?

    • @JillC2
      @JillC2 Před rokem +1

      @@K1OIK AP is usually used to denote autopilot. It's an aviation video, most people would have gotten that.

  • @greencresset6056
    @greencresset6056 Před rokem

    o thats a show. thankfully everyone lived.

  • @adisura9904
    @adisura9904 Před rokem +4

    Recently watching all these videos really made me wonder how much harder it must have been to fly back in the day. Always knew that flying requires peak human performances in civil aviation let alone military but never pondered on the thought as much. Its really insane what humans can do.

  • @slomotrainwreck
    @slomotrainwreck Před rokem

    I know that fog cause the poor visibility but the other video said that the city of New Delhi has a problem with smog also, maybe clean up the smog? That might help with the visibility a little.

  • @dexterroy
    @dexterroy Před rokem

    What's the reason they did not divert to Chandigarh airport? That even closer.

  • @cowsgoloka
    @cowsgoloka Před rokem

    After reading many crash investigation across the globe. My suggestion as a layman would be to have a ATC bunker (lower profile 1 feet glass cube just to put the head out/ camera) at the end ( 5-10secs before the runway end) of each active runway to see it the actually took off or aborted take off, aligned or misaligned, tyres bursted or not while take off, and tell the pilots in real time to go around etc or work in tandem with the tower when visibility is poor or CAT III landings are in Queue.. The pilots and the ATC - towers are not able to physically verify the relative position of the aircraft when it is few 100meters from the end of the runway.
    I mean to say some bold team should be close to the runway like they are aboard the Navy aircraft carriers. Say within 50-75 feet offset to the runway end . I could be wrong with something here or funny , but not a bad idea to have some guy at end to warn the pilot within a sec or two when it's CAT III or even a clear day if fuel is leaking or sprays out.

  • @rmorgan4358
    @rmorgan4358 Před rokem +1

    They can land at the military base if they declare an emergency!!

  • @anthonywilliams9852
    @anthonywilliams9852 Před rokem

    Why you didn't show the image of the plane wing slicing through the trees and just showed the plane veering left and no trees to the left obstructing the path to the left of the plane and the plane's wings sawing through them?

  • @dpg0jod
    @dpg0jod Před rokem

    Why not perform an auto-land? No ILS?

  • @Rincypoopoo
    @Rincypoopoo Před rokem +4

    India is.... India. They do things their way. I love the place but I always took the Train. When my pal broke his leg he flew to Thailand before going to hospital. Another friend DID use Indian Airlines, but he always ate Opium before take off. If I read of an incident where there was a gear failure due to the guy in the wheel well going to sleep and not pulling a string when he saw the ground I would just nod my head and think yeah, they wouldn't let a broken hydraulic line take an aircraft out of service.

  • @whiteandnerdytuba
    @whiteandnerdytuba Před rokem

    I wonder how many times this happens but the auto land stays on so you never hear about it

  • @chrisbentleywalkingandrambling

    Random question from non pilot. Couldn't they use Autoland?

  • @stuman01
    @stuman01 Před rokem

    Trees inside the airport?

  • @juliemanarin4127
    @juliemanarin4127 Před rokem

    Uh no...they did not check their fuel supply. So glad everyone survived!

  • @viveksathish
    @viveksathish Před rokem +13

    I’m so glad that Air India is now owned by the right team - The first owners of Air India - The Tatas

    • @killerdove123
      @killerdove123 Před rokem

      Yup. It’s finally back in the right hands. I really hope Ratan Tata is able to emulate his uncle JRD and bring back this airline to its past glory.

    • @viveksathish
      @viveksathish Před rokem

      @@killerdove123 if anyone can do it, it’s the house of Tatas. They definitely have everything and all the experience to turn Air India around to be the pride of India like it once was. It’s a long and challenging road but they’ll get there.

  • @tonydavis1305
    @tonydavis1305 Před rokem

    Irrespective of all other unpardonanle failures, the Capt should NOT have disconnected his autopilot on the ILS especially in almost ZERO visibility. This is an aggravated emergency situation. I would have kept the AP on till about 50 feet above runway..An extreme miracle that no one was injured though the airplane was written off.

  • @leviathan68w78
    @leviathan68w78 Před rokem

    I flew in to Bukake once... I don't want to talk about it...

  • @jeffro221
    @jeffro221 Před rokem

    I am not a pilot. That said, I would think if you are landing a plane is near zero visibility, you would be glued to watching the glide path and localizer. Would those not put you on the end of the runway? Even if the flying pilot did not see he was drifting to left, would not the monitoring pilot be watching those like a hawk to ensure they are on the right path horizontally and vertically to the runway? Is it that difficult?

  • @sv6306
    @sv6306 Před rokem

    As a rule, whenever I board an Indian aircraft, I ask the air hostesses (who are standing within an earshot of the pilot) if they have enough fuel + some more to carry the entire trip.

  • @VikasKumar-kb5gs
    @VikasKumar-kb5gs Před rokem

    Monday, 17 July 2000
    Alliance Air Flight 7412
    Place: Patna, India. Pls make a video on this one tooooooooooooo

  • @brunoais
    @brunoais Před rokem

    8:40 I'd say they just half arsed did the cross-checks and didn't write down anything during the flight because too lazy. But I can't rule out they were lying...

  • @bracknell89
    @bracknell89 Před rokem

    Keep waiting for the video in which you tell us 'this is the story all about how my life got turned upside down'

  • @vivekrajup9701
    @vivekrajup9701 Před rokem

    Guys we are talking of Air India under government control back them. Extremely inefficient and irresponsible staff, glad no casualties.

  • @maxtornogood
    @maxtornogood Před rokem

    SpiceJet 256 was put into a tricky situation due to another flight crew's incompetence!

  • @patriciamariemitchel
    @patriciamariemitchel Před rokem +1

    They got it on the ground in zero visibility. They would have run out of fuel. I don't know what else they could have done. 👍

    • @cherriberri8373
      @cherriberri8373 Před rokem +1

      Yeah but the fact they were in the position to need to land or crash on go around is the issue. It should have never got to that point.
      They did get it down in zero visibility though.

    • @patriciamariemitchel
      @patriciamariemitchel Před rokem

      @@cherriberri8373, true.

    • @JillC2
      @JillC2 Před rokem

      It never should have come close to the situation they had. That's the reason most places have systems to avoid this sort of thing. This never should have occurred. The pilot and flight crew made mistakes that they never should have made (disconnecting AP on a 0V landing, running so short of fuel that the alt was undoable.) They were lucky.

  • @Boodieman72
    @Boodieman72 Před rokem

    Sounds like a major issue with the whole Indian system, which I hope has been fixed.

    • @gettothepoint2707
      @gettothepoint2707 Před rokem

      Naah. Indians are afraid of change. Idk why but they hate changing.

  • @chrisbentleywalkingandrambling

    Like the other commentator, institutional laziness and negligence. There is no way they did fuel crosschecks.

  • @nik.6845
    @nik.6845 Před rokem +1

    s

  • @advorak8529
    @advorak8529 Před rokem

    Popes have been known to kiss the ground upon exiting the plane. After all, it WAS Alitalia (now defunct).
    If they had flown Air India …
    … kissing the ground would not have done anything! Building a monastery might have been enough for some, but stuff like this landing is more of the “build a huge cathedral .. or 3” type.

  • @LBG-cf8gu
    @LBG-cf8gu Před rokem

    Cat III available, but non-qual pilots? smh...

  • @twistedwhiskers8776
    @twistedwhiskers8776 Před rokem

    Do more videos on where autopilot/automation saves the day

  • @feynthefallen
    @feynthefallen Před rokem

    Bottom line: Planes in India are no better than the taxis there. Don't get on any of them.

  • @George_M_
    @George_M_ Před rokem +1

    The airline set them up to fail. And the overall standards of information sharing in India. It's a bad look from top to bottom. I'm certainly never flying in India lol How do you fix *all* that?

  • @briant7265
    @briant7265 Před rokem

    And the allegedly trained pilot lets the plane roll to the left. Even I, not a pilot, know what the artificial horizon is.

  • @slagarcrue85
    @slagarcrue85 Před rokem

    How hard is it 2 read a dam fuel gauge a 12 year old could do that better.

  • @tfortortilla8856
    @tfortortilla8856 Před rokem

    One word : BruH!

  • @matt_b...
    @matt_b... Před rokem

    8:40 They did not do that

  • @Phiyedough
    @Phiyedough Před rokem

    So was anyone injured or killed?

  • @unitycatalog
    @unitycatalog Před rokem

    Vishw guru🤣🤣🤣

  • @Bobrogers99
    @Bobrogers99 Před rokem

    It sounds like there were a lot of incompetent people involved, plenty of blame to spread around. I hope that a number of employees were fired. They were so fortunate that there was no loss of life.

  • @777hdt
    @777hdt Před rokem

    Shonky operators and pilots. Feel sorry for passengers and their families

  • @AvaneeshK
    @AvaneeshK Před rokem

    AI890 💀

  • @PelenTan
    @PelenTan Před rokem +11

    Seems like all of these accidents are caused by cultural differences. I work in the IT industry. There is a reason things are so cocked up, IT-wise here in the US. Everyone outsources their work to India.

    • @Rincypoopoo
      @Rincypoopoo Před rokem

      Yup. I know India. Great place. But it IS India and this was a very Indian sort of cock up.

  • @rosua
    @rosua Před rokem +5

    i would be suprised about all the regulations that werent followed, but im really not suprised at all most shit runs like this in india

  • @momchilandonov
    @momchilandonov Před 3 měsíci

    People that don't believe in climate change should go and live in New Delhi!

  • @atzuras
    @atzuras Před rokem +1

    flight planning level: fsx
    pilot balls: fsx
    landing: mission accomplished!