How to make: Lamellar Armour pt. 1.
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- čas přidán 9. 07. 2024
- This is my second how to video in making dark age armour. This time we look at a form armour called Lamellar. Enjoy and if you have any questions feel free to ask.
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Part 2 - • How to make: Lamellar ...
Part 3 - • How to make: Lamellar ... - Jak na to + styl
Something i can see with Lamellar armor, is that the owner could repair it or have it repaired at little expense compared to large piece plate armor. It is user friendly in that respect.
It would also be relatively cheap to make in the first place.
It would be much easier to get a lot of small plated of metal- be that bronze or iron/steel- than a large, uniform piece.
It also wouldn't require as much skill to produce so again, it would be cheaper to make.
Not to say that a full set of Lamellar would be cheap, but it definitely would be a LOT cheaper than a full set of Plate.
As far as cutting is concerned, I think it would be more efficient to use the angle grinder to cut the sheet metal into long stripes first.
Btw, great tutorial! I'm planning to make my first lamellar and this is very helpful.
blasty137 was thinking the same thing
@Tskimmo You are absolutely right. I actually used a template for the holes when I firsted started but I've been doing it for so long that I've got my eye trained to know where to hit.
@SamGCampbell thanks for the info on the book. I'll start looking for it since I'm always interested in expanding my research libaray. I've been working with leather for the last few weeks and I'm finding it funny to use.
If you are just using it to wear and not fight I used old plastic barrels to make the armor. The barrel was black and only had pig's grease in it. Be sure what the barrel was used for before you use it to make armor.
yes. treated leather was the actually preferred material, by horsemen, since it was lighter and when soaked in urine, yes urine, it would be nearly as hard as mild-steel. If you're going to use leather go for something between 8-10 oz leather. The higher the oz. though the thicker and harder it is to work with.
@DanTheVikingr Leather, wood, bone, small woodland creatures :). Honestly yes there was/is leather lamellar. It's like what I told someone before I'm just showing the general understanding about how to make armour. It's up to you to decided what material you want to make, how big the pieces, etc. .
Plastic is probably your best bet, like what can be found in the plumbing section at your local hardware store. Light weight, able to be drilled without breaking, etc. . Another thing I suggest, make yourself thick padding that can fit under the armor. It'll help disperse the energy of the paint ball and prevent the wonderful welts it leaves.
@armsman70 Never mind I found out what a throatless shear is. Wish I could buy one but they're a little out of my price range. I also heard those things dull quickly and need to be sharpen constantly.
if done right it's, proper oz., and taken care of, it can be strong as mild-steel.
@armsman70 The problem is the shets I use are huge, 5ftx3ft. So the shears can only cut so far before they refuse to go any further. The next time I get more shets I'm going to make sure there smaller, What is a throatless shear? Never heard of it.
Depending on who you get your steel from, you may be able to have them shear it to the desired width. Then all you'd have to do is cut it to length with the electric shears. It may cost a little more but it would reduce cutting and hammering significantly.
@fasiapule it's strongly connected to nomadic horsemen of asia, but I do believe lamellar, or versions of it, have also been found in ancient greece, the ancient middle east, and ancient egypt also. Was it due to trade with the nomadic cultures of asia or not is still up debte
@knightedwolf You know I don't know. I think I read that late period roman soldiers did do that & while it worked it made the suit harder to move in but honestly I don't know. Give it a shot and tell me if it worked or not I would like to hear the out come
angle grinder with a cutting wheel is a million times more efficient. also cutting one long strip of metal with the width you want then cutting them into the lengths youd like is easier process unlike what this video shows.
How much is a rabour press and how big is it? The reason I ask it might be out of my price range and it might be to big for where I live.
if someone, ie: myself were looking to make a suit of lamellar using aluminum instead of steel, what sizes and/or grades of aluminum would you suggest using?
if you were to make it out of high quality plywood, would it be effective while its new and undamaged
How thick is 16 gauge steel? We use metrics here, and I don't know how thick it is.
I am thinking about making one for myself and using a 0,5 - 0,7 mm thick. Overlapping should be around 1,5 - 2,1 mm thick. Should be adequate.
Could cut down the manufacturing time if you get steel bars instead of sheets. Just cut off at regular intervals and drill the holes in there. Instant lamellar!
@ballerking400 I got the snips from my father. I believe you can get a pair at Lowes or Home Deopt and for a decent price.
Wouldn't it be easier to cut a long strip and then cut the individual plates. also while the electric shears are good wouldn't a throatless shear be a better option to cut.
why dont they used metal rivets for the plates?
so... generally how strong is hardened leather, in terms of combat use that is.
yeah. I'm planning on using lighter materials for the next suit of Lamellar I make.
Can you use titanium?
end product looks sweet! for the cording or lace or whatever, can I just cut it when I'm done looping it through a row?
also , what's the intro song to this video?
It's called Rock the House by the Gorillaz
Hello. I cannot understand spoken english very well. Can someone write width of the plate? Thanks for help.
Ork Falo Any size, it depends on you. They look to me about 3.5 × 6 centimeters long but i cant be certain
Thank you.
how to make slavic ro byzantine lamellar aromr
nice belt!
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One thing that might reduce your time during build would be to use a jigsaw with a metal cutting blade. Or look at getting a portable band-saw that you can table mount. Either option wouldn't bend the metal and you could cut rounded corners into each piece.
Jake Bigelow I tired the jigsaw once. The biggest problem, is the metal is to thin, the whole piece would vibrate, even with me kneeling on the piece, causing me to never have a straight line. If the metal is thicker, I.E. 12 gauge or more, then a jigsaw would be the prefer method.
Schuller100 did you try clamping the piece of metal down to your work surface. You would get a lot better grip on the piece over kneeling or trying to hold it yourself. Plus then you could have only the part that you need to cut hanging over thus giving you less vibration in your whole piece. Another tool to try would be a grinder plus cutting disk, but there again you would want to clamp the piece of metal down to make it easier to work with.
They did discover pieces of lamellar armor in Norway it's not been proven it may have been possible vikings have used lamellar armor in combat which is arguably just as effective or more than mail armor and if a viking could afford it he could probably get his hands on lamellar
@BobSamson147 I've been very lucky in knowing a few people that worked in industry and gave me a few sheets over the years. The best bet is to check out scrap yards or do an on line search. You'd be amazed by what people don't want and you need.
I think he meant "arbour press".
They're pretty cheap and pretty small. You can get a cheap one at Harbor Freight. Yeah, it's HF, but it works. Usually less than $100, can even get some less than $50.
iam not telling you what to do or anything but wouldnt it be easier to use a angle grinder with a cutting disc you can get them really cheap for like thirthy dollars i have made scale mail before and it is way faster to use a angle grinder
Hello !
I would know : is it really important for all of the holes to be a the exact same place in every lamellar piece? I mean, when i will make the hole, if i pierce a hole at 3-4 mm next to the previous hole in the previous lamellar, should i make another lamellar or it's ok? If you see what i mean?
Yes. It's important to make sure all the holes are as close as possible with each Lamellar piece. I've started using templates to mark my holes so that they're as close as possible to one another.
Ok i see, thanks for the awnser !
no problem.
What thickness
@Gordinak2 Thank U
What are the peice measurements.
where did you get 16 gauge sheet metal ???
ryger hawkeye
Local distributer.
Or online metals
Online metals has moly from $7/ft²
if possible/if you are interested, can you make mandalorian armor and show case it/give a tutorial....... :c
Can you make a diagram of the design
Wasn't there Lamellar made from leather, too?
@Gordinak2 That would be Gorillaz's Rock the house.
Can I make this out of wood
please material list
could you use rivets of some sort rather than lacing it?
knightedwolf Riveting would make the armor much more durable and less suseptible to having the pieces come off, but it's gonna be way stiffer and harder to move in. That, plus doing all those rivets would make it really tedious to make, especially in large pieces, like the chest.
I started watching and was like: "ZOMG GORILLAZ, LAAAWF
im mnaking paintball armour what materials should i use?
I play paint ball.... I would suggest making armor with 5gal buckets. The curve works great for assembling it
Lol leather
Did European knights wear this or no?
you could just make a template for your holes
Why not just pinch the plate in the vise? it'll straighten out that way too ;)
0:15
Good video even with that tiny hiccup there.
"lamenar" or lamellar? 0:12
I gather. I know woods has been used for armor so why not.
leather is easier to make why u chose steel?
Mohammad Ghezelli Leather is much easier to slice and break.
do you know where I can find all of the patterns of Lamellar armor?
Mohammad Ghezelli id try armor archive. They have a template and lacing instructions
It's good to see the Stodoys has new instructions to save my money and energy to build it.
@SamGCampbell If it's steel it's scalemail, not LAmellar :3
Rottenbrains Scaredycat No. The difference between scale mail and lamellar is that scale mail are essentially plates, or scales, fastened down to a backing, like leather. Lamellar, on the other hand, has all the pieces laced together, with no backing necessary to keep it together. That, plus lamellar, I believe, is easier to make and not as restricting as scale armor.
@@Anino_Makata yeah, you're right
Did the vikings were lamellar armour ??????
Andrew Heslin there is debate about it. I tend to believe yes, the Nordic countries did have lamellar.
+Schuler001 very specific type of lamellar, u can say they found it by themselfs
That is true. It's sort of like Maille. Different cultures, that never meet, created the same type of armor.
I thought that vikings were chain armour.But recently i found that they were a kind of lamellar too...i saw the picture.Interesting,that kind of lamellar looks very simillar to the lamellar of turk khanate...maybe it can be an evidance that vikings have arrived to centre asia（that khanate was in center asia）
薛晓飞 The lamellar was probably introduced through trade with the Turks, among other cultures that resided in central Asia, and the Byzantine empire
I don't think you are correct.