Why Africa and France Have Fallen Out
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The coup in Niger and the subsequent attack on the French Embassy has once again highlighted the tensions between France and its former colonies. So in this video, we'll explain French-African relations post-colonialism and why they’re now deteriorating.
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00:00 Introduction
01:09 French Colonialism?
01:37 France’s Military Influence
02:32 France’s Economic Influence
03:13 Why It Isn’t Just Colonialism
04:19 Why France and Africa are Falling Out
07:51 Daily Discussion
I’m absolutely astonished that you skipped over the ridiculous “independence agreement” that french shoved down their former colonies - first right of sale to natural resources is one of the biggest reasons the region is poor
This argument ignores the local dependencies and commerce entirely. Nigeria for example is the main destination for local exports - and the region is not particularly poorer than many other states without any kind of agreements of this kind.
True. Very biased video. It seems like it's trying to sell that France has a bad reputation only because Russia and China managed to grift easily pursuaded Africans into that mindset. 95% truth, 5% lies like all good propaganda. Mind you, it could just be bad research. Most Westerners are this ignorant, also the journalists.
It's called the Pact for the Continuation of Colonization.
They covered it in the video "Does France control africa"
"one of the biggest reasons region is poor", lmao, cope harder
Rwandan here. I think the best way to describe French-African relations can be understood if you imagine all the things America did to South America, then imagine America proceeded to start forcing the South Americans to pay for saving them from "communism".
What the hell would you know about it? Your masters are the Brits.
They sort of did that, they invaded some of the countries and overthrown some of their presidents.
based
And how exactly did the French "force" the Africans to pay?
True, but they could never had done it without at least a significant local minority supporting them, probably assuming, it will get them and their families some advantages.
Considering what France did to West Africa, it would be more surprising to think Africa doesn't hate France, or pretty much any European country
Belgium in particular has so much blood on its hand
💯
Besides it's pure english/german propaganda on Belgium, look up the numbers rdc was by far one of the most successfull country in africa back then, Leopold 'massacres' was lowkey propaganda to get it out of his hands.
You must try China , USA or Russia .....
@DrKenzoTenma That is why the west is scared. Because in future years as African nations become more geopolitical powers they know this hateful resentments will exist against France. And rightfully so if you indepth study what they have done in Africa is really sad relationship. Especially in Algeria war of independance which was not so long ago. People will never forget history. Europeans dont forget the suffering of WW2 so we should not expect Africans forgetting their colonial suffering under the hands of Western colonials powers at the time.
@@KOTAAOMEEbullshit even current historians agree that what Belgium did in Congo is one of the worst genocide in history
Maybe TLDR should've asked an African correspondent. The vid seemed to focus more on French and Western influence versus Russian and Chinese influence acting upon African countries as opposed to internal changes in Africa that has changed their relationship with outside powers
They think Africans don't think and reason!
Here in Sri Lanka, the people are learning, the hard way, that Chinese and Russian imperialism is not much better than Western imperialism. This is a lesson the anti-Westerners in Africa should take note of: the enemy of my enemy isn't always my friend. At least, not in the long run. The second lesson: imperialism is imperialism, no matter the nation that's behind it.
I mean you can't blame the Chinese, though. What country builds two commercial ports quite next to each other? You guys were asking to be robbed.
So despite all the wrong they do....we should stick to the west?
I know for sure that Russia or China are not any better but atleast a few things will get right. And Actually..... Africa will be treated fairer since it'll have competing powers.
And also the problem mentioned in the video is not entirely an African problem. It's some few countries in Africa. ... like 5 atmost out of the 54 countries on the continent
@@katokibugga At this point India and Indonesia has appeared on Asia's geopolical landscape in the most lowkey style as another emerging economic powers. They might be not as fancy as China or Russia but their goverments and companies were now itching to invest some money aborad far away from the fierce competitions on Asia. Of course, at the end of they day they all also had their own T&C's respectively much same like Western powers, China, and Russia.
@@tony16991
How did China rob Sri Lanka? Only 9% of its debt is owed to China
How about, not better than yourselves? Countries mismanage themselves and then flood to Europe and hate us at the same time.
Let me be clear, I'm NOT a fan of the way Russia and China do business. But with even cursory knowledge of how France has treated it's colonies in the past, the surge of anger at their incompetence is understandable.
Oh yeah ?
Give some example please. Don't be so elusive.
@@mrsupremegascon They don't have any, just stupid bullshit like the voluntary CFA Franc is oppression.
@@mrsupremegasconJust Google, how much algerian ki*lled by france
@@mrsupremegascon French backing of the coup against Sankara of Burkina Faso to install a puppet dictator, for one. There's also just the entirety of the Algerian independence movement, due to France declaring Algeria an integrated part of France and yet refusing to give Algerians many civil rights, with attempts at settler-colonialism. Another former colony (I forgot which, though I wouldn't be surprised if this practice was widespread), when it voted for independence, the French responded by destroying all sorts of infrastructure, from government buildings to schools and hospitals to transportation centers, going as far as to take even the utensils from the fancier buildings. "We left them nothing but their eyes to cry from" - some French colonial officer involved in this. There's also plenty of reporting done on French neocolonial practices in the west African region that continues to this day.
I consider my knowledge on the region's history fairly cursory, insofar as I haven't spent much time at all researching this stuff and know more pop history that solid historiography.
@@mrsupremegascon what france and guinea
As an african from a country that was colonized by France I'm really disappointed in you guys you went way too fast on the subject and missed so many other reasons on why we hate them
Yea, main reason is that your corrupt leaders are always looking for a scapegoat.
White guys explaining, it is always like this 😂
okay lets just say nothing then
They are doing a 10 min video, they can't cover everything 😂
They don't have to cover everything, they can at least not sugar coat it. France has not been doing lots of shady shit in the past but also the present. The video makes it seem like they're just losing the "information war" and had a few hiccups which is far from the bloody truth.
Can't expect much from this channel that's clearly euro/western-centric though
As someone living in an ex-colony, albeit less screwed than others, every time I see people confused about the international relationships of ex-colonies it always feels like the families of abusive ex-partners asking why they don't want to go back into a relationship with baffling and "honest" confusion.
That being said, it often feels like ex-colonies just upgrade from wife-beaters to gaslighters.
I know right. "bUt WHY DoN't You Want US EUROPeans who have exploited you for HUNDREDS of years "
Absolutely! You have to have a discerning spirit to figure out their next move. A leopard never changes its spot.
As a Nigerian, I agree that France deserves harsh criticism am for their terrible diplomacy in Africa but I also refuse to support the overthrowing of democracies for military dictatorships because that has never worked for us in Africa. And worse, actually inviting groups like Russian mercenaries is even worse than anything.
It seems on Africa's mind everyone deserve harsh criticism unless its Russia and China.
The so called democratic government in Niger was a western puppet who sold out his country
@@ignatiusryd2031believe me, many of us know how corrupt and banal Russia and China are. My own country is wary of entertaining any serious pacts with either of them.
Thomas Sankara in Burkina Faso did it 100 % better as a military leader .. Go check ..
Goita is doing it 100% in mali .
De gaule did it 15 years in france
Some of the viewers are complaining about treating Africa as a single entity, while this is wrong, but we (Africans) even those of us who aren't from west Africa, have some negative issues with France and we stand with our siblings in west Africa, their misery is our's too
that's funny to infer that Africa should be considered as a single entity since the only thing you can count on in Africa is the different factions slaughtering each other on a regular basis .....
Yeah, North Africa too
@@HookedonChronicsespecially Algeria
@@wrestlinganime4life288 I'm Algerian brother and don't I know it. Glad Algeria hasn't allowed any military bases and all that, the anti colonial mentality there is still strong. We know not to fully trust the French and their intentions
As you should. Africa is one big family, and I think it’s time African start looking at it that way. If your brother suffers you all suffer.
I’m a westerner who lived in east africa off and on for the last few years. It isn’t that america is losing the information war because propaganda is America’s strongest point. It’s that Africans can feel the disrespect and disregard for their interests. China does not intervene in local political affairs and even though they’re no angels, you know what to expect from them. Turkey, the gulf states, India and other emerging economies see great opportunity in developing east Africa so they can have a market to trade with. The usa and france care about keeping africa subservient, that’s why america is losing the African Cold War and will lose unless they change they’re strategy now but we all know they won’t.
The US is required to support France, that is what drew the US into Indo-China.
The west want a region to exploit for their benefit, China, Turkey, UAE etc want a region to trade with for mutual benefit......
Ok, Ivan
The PRC mostly seeks its own network of clients. They're just less likely to regime change someone over HR abuses or demand they comply with what the IMF demands as long as port and resource concessions keep coming.
I think places like South Africa also like to make a show that the EU zone shouldn't take them for granted. That India or Brazil etc are growing as important as they are. And what should France do, get their uranium elsewhere.
@Notmyrealname69420....Propaganda and the information warfare is not only the US strongest point but the Western world in general. The US have spewd anti-African propaganda since slavery. Western Europe powers who had colonies in Africa have been the nr.1 reason why people have the most distorted perceptions, stigmas and psuedo stereotypes about Africa because they are the ones who created all this racist vieuws on Africa. European elites knew the masses of Westeners are simpel minded working class people easy to influance with racist propaganda about Africa. Rightwing populist parties/ Alt-Right are doing the exact same thing over again. But this time Africans are more aware of it back in the days alot African people where somewhat brainwashed with colonial mindset through the colonial education at the time and the church. Many Africans are naive and always dance and sing when they see Europeans......but the Africans who are very sharp and understand the Western physcology, propaganda, warfare tactics understand the game are seen as extremly dangerous and those are the ones western powers have eliminated and still try to do.
France was pretty unpopular even before the 2010s. When I was studying in Paris many years ago, I heard stories from West African students. They told me that when a very pro-French president of the Ivory Coast, Félix Houphouët-Boigny, died in the early 1990s, France irresponsibly left the West Afrcian franc (CFA) drop in value precipitously, thus damaging the economies of several nations in the region.
I also heard that when one small country in West Africa (I forget which one) voted not to keep close ties with France after independence, the French were so vindictive that they took everything with them when they left, even the plumbing.
But the most telling thing I learned about, in a course on international trade, was the French practice of imposing "cascading tariffs" on their former colonies in Africa. What this meant was that there were different levels of tariffs that the Africa had to pay to export their goods to France. The highest tariffs were charged for manufactured goods and the lowest were charged for commodities such as foodstuffs and minerals. This guaranteed that these countries would never develop economically. This was going on as early as the 1970s, if not earlier.
Yeah, pretty unpopular but they go there in thousands...
That country was Guinea 😢
@@mcbatetens It was? Thanks for letting me know.
Regarding tariffs - that's a normal thing to do for every country. In case of France - if you're outside of the EU or don't FTA, you're eligible for any tariffs for your products being exported. Regarding political landscape - France is a stable democracy, which means that the government always changes from left to right usually every five years. Since you didn't write a year, based on the behavior of the French government I assume the left was in power, which usually advocates for zero intervention in Africa policy.
African countries wanted their independence, they got it. But I just don't understand why do they expect for someone to come (be it France, China or Russia) and to fix all their problems, make them prosper, while they can continue doing nothing?
And regarding WAF and CAF I would argue that it only helps African economies, as corrupt leaders would steal those money or just built some useless megaproject just for their ego. Like a safe upkeep. In fact, one the countries have left CFA (I don't really remember which one exactly). The reserves from Paris were returned... I think you can guess the ending - 3 years on, the money was gone in favor of the new palace, a coup happened and it asked to rejoin CFA again, but was rejected. Moral of the story - enough of blaming all your problems on others, waiting for saviors to make you rich and fix all your problems and build up your country by yourself - a first step of making your leaders accountable would be advisable.
@@MrQ454 Yep, steal from me and I will move into your house...Cry me a river🤣
The lesson is that imperialism is bad if it doesn't come from your own country
Imperialism by definition cannot come from your own country. You have political leaders in the Developing world that acquiesce but it can be argued that they have little choice. Considering the US have killed African leaders, invaded nations and sanctioned other ones (like Zimbabwe) into Obilivion. A choice isn't a choice if you got a gun to your head if you make the "wrong" choice.
yep this channel has become defacto a propaganda channel for the west and nato
how does that work
@@mustafaal-ghezi1757 it's factual reporting. Don't compare this network to any of the Murdoch/Putin propaganda rags
@mustafaal-ghezi1757 Have any proof for your claim or is this another drive-by trolling?
Guessing nobody from TLDR will ever see this but on the off chance someone does: you guys might want to be a little more precise with how you talk about African countries/regions. It seems like most of what you’re talking about in this video concerns West Africa, and within that specifically the former French colonies in subsaharan West Africa. I get that it’s a 10 minute video and you guys have to be concise, but there’s an unfortunate tendency for western media to talk about “Africa” more as a single entity-like a country- than the massive, regionally diverse continent that it is. Talking about it this way also might give your viewers an incomplete picture, since they might assume that the trends you’re talking about (the coups, Wagner group involvement, etc) apply to the entire continent or even to all of France’s former African colonies when that isn’t entirely true (ex. Algeria and Madagascar). Video titles like “Why Africa and France Have Fallen Out” kinda reinforce this, since you’re comparing an entire continent to a single, comparatively small, country. It’s not that we can’t talk about Africa holistically as a continent or trends that effect it, but just like we do with other continents it might be a good idea to recognize more explicitly its regional diversity. Imagine talking about European politics if people rarely bothered to differentiate between “Western Europe” “Scandinavia” “The Balkans” or “Eastern Europe” and just said “Europe.” Things would get confusing!
Sorry for the nitpick. Keep up the good work!
It's not a nitpick. They are western shills and a prowestern propaganda channel for all intense and purposes
You must be the most insufferable person at any party. Literally noone interprets the video like you just described - you may as well just unsubscribe now tbh. Stop trying to find the tiniest things to cancel them over.
This is a non issue
This was an incredibly fair way of putting it. Realizing the time constraint, but also empathizing with how others would feel if this was done to their continental region as a whole. Well done.
It makes for an easier title at a small cost of accuracy. Not the biggest issue if they go into more details in the video. But I definitely get your point.
@@dillonblair6491 Well tons of people seem upset.
Disappointed in no mention of France's role in deposing AU leader Gaddafi and in the destabilizing of Libya and its neighbors and thus the slowing down or derailment of African advancement projects that were in the works.
Besides that France has been involved in a couple dozen coups or attempted coups, assassination or attempted assassinations and subversive or sabotage all over Africa, not forgetting apartheid and genocide and war crimes in Algeria.
Libya was already destabilized even before France did anything. Africa has never been on track as they spend more time increasing their demography rather than their infrastructures because banging your broke wife is easier than working.
As we say in Mexico: "mucho ayuda el que no estorba."
He who gets out of the way helps a lot.
ese es el problema con los europeos.
no quieren ayudar, solo saquear.
mira todo lo que han hecho los yanquis en toda america.....
As a French guy I believe that the government should leave Africa and stop dictating our rules to Africans. End the francophonie and let Africans rule themselves . To each its own
Pas de soucis mais on arrête toutes les aides au "développement" (LOL), tous les visas et on encourage leurs ressortissants à rentrer chez eux afin de ne plus subir notre "horrible néo colonialisme"! Ils préfèrent les pillages de Wagner, grand bien leur fasse... Je suis allé pas mal de fois en Afrique Centrale, effectivement la Chine est partout mais dès qu'ils ont fini d'absorber toutes les ressources d'une région, ils repartent avec tout ce qu'ils ont construit, même les installations qui servaient aussi pour les populations civiles comme les génératrices électriques etc...
That’s fair but if Africa keeps sending migrants we will need to return and restore order.
@@MrWhitmen1981 No need, just increase the means of FRONTEX and give it a mandate to block and repatriate all the migrants back to North Africa with the ships they used.
@@MrWhitmen1981they need to stop interfere west african politic then, its their fault that their former colony so unstable
@@ren2704lol you are blind French the aid ate just pennies compared to how many resource they takes
People are waking up and realizing that it cannot be business as usual. If Africa hates France it’s not without reason..
All of Africa agrees with you. Minus some people in the comments.
France has done a lot of good things for Africa. Be grateful.
@@r-uu2qi like what?
@@udy12 maintaining stability and humanitarian aid
@@r-uu2qi "maintaining stability" by training rebels in CAR and Mali? By arming the Touareg which turned north Africa into a slave market?
And okay what humanitarian aid are you talking about? How much was sent to Cote D'Ivoire for example? 🤡
As someone living in Cameroon (one of the former French colonies), I must say thank you for this very good video, TLDR. It does a very good job capturing the feelings and facts around the relationship between France and its ex-colonies. We rarely receive this kind of qualitative and accurate content covering this topic and presenting it to a large international audience, so thank you!
All I can say is the savages bite the hand that feeds them. Take a lesson from Ecwas or what ever silly little name you call it, they know who the master is.
Some of these channels are paid to shape narratives, you will not get accuracy. A number of them have shot up, appearing to give the 'perfect news' ; luring African youths in particular. Disinformation and misinformation is the game.
Explosion of news on Africa , recently over 11 coups and still counting ....
Proxy wars taking place, looking like 'Monster' is picking off France using ... Niger .
Using young Military leaders in particular... Stirring & using our emotions over colonial injustices.
Break through news ' another purveyors of the same BS; appearing to give information but interlaced with disinformation and misinformation.
@@iwasntaguntilimovedouttheh3961 Master my arse. Those "masters" depend on us, so who is the real master. Your effin country is in so much debt despite stealing our resources. Go figure that out first, savage.
@@iwasntaguntilimovedouttheh3961 ... sounds like you are the 'sick savage'; so ill that you have a need to go round trying to descend on others...
@@iwasntaguntilimovedouttheh3961 they might rather have racist Italian and English.
Gotta love when Europe gets called out for their hypocrisy
France isn't part of Europe.
It's not. Start by learning the difference between France and Europe.
Last time I checked France is part of Europe. A lot of Europeans seem to think they are from a group above this level of ugliness and call out others for doing the same thing. Granted France does do a lot of things that is opposite what other European countries are doing.
@@tarkov666 last time I checked there were 43 other countries in Europe, many of which are above that as they have no colonial past in Africa.
@@bambina5604 half of those 43 countries were part of another country during colonial times. Many of which had colonies outside of Africa... in general the only reason any of them finally gave up their colonies was due to it being too costly after the world wars, pressure from the US/native people, focus on rebuilding, and the Cold War.
I fully support these countries breaking away from their former colonial masters. But replacing France with Russia or China isn’t gonna change anything guys
Quick edit: as a West African, it’s funny to see non-Africans in the comments try to tell us about our own countries and what we need ☠️ despite never even stepping foot here
It's gonna change... for the worse.
China offers better loan packages, and Russia offers no-strings-attached security assistance. So, it's actually a way better deal than what the West offers.
Breaking away from former colonial overlords shouldn't mean simply replacing them with new overlords, like Russia or China.
@@monadic_monastic69 And not by military coups.
Then how else are they gonna break free.
Afrika must liberates herself from Neo-colonialism
so far africa is embracing the russian and chinese neocolonialism and its gonna get way worse bowing the knee to dictatorships. But hey dont say we didnt warn you.
I'm an American who has lived in China and currently South Africa.
Colonialism in Africa is an incredibly complex topic, but if there's one uniting thread I've learned over the last decade, it's that it doesn't matter if your government is from Britain, the Us, China, Russia, or France--just stay the eff out of Africa and leave African nations to be governed by Africans, and let them own their resources. Many African nations are already dually taxed by foreign powers: their natural resources are stripped from them by foreign powers, paying Africans who mine them peanuts. Then, those same resources are refined and manufactured into phones and such elsewhere to be sold back to Africans at a premium.
The profits go to the West and the East while the people who's land holds the resources get nothing but poverty.
White american? 😅
It is the same thing for all countries, if a country does not have the capacity of transforming a resource, it sells the resource which is then transformed in another country with added value. It is not special to African countries. The only way for Africa to progress is to improve its level of education and at the same time industrialize itself.
No country is trying to "replace France with China or Russia." They're trying to replace unjust & parasitic business practices with fair and humane business practices. If France offers fair business practices, they won't be afraid of getting replaced by anyone else. All the French have to do is sign better business deals and they'll be in good terms with these nations.
if you truly believe thats whats gonna heppen if they stop cooperation with western countries you are naive beyond belief. And when famine and war roll over africa they will blame western countries for not doing enough to help... with that mentality they are doomed
Exactly, a white man who doesn’t know how to pronounce Malian doesn’t seem to understand that we as Africans are open to trading with any country that offers a fair competitive price.
LMFAO Imagine calling Wagner fair and humane after they finished committing genocide in Ukraine. The CCP is committing its own genocide again brown Muslims in Xinjang, too.
I'm African, too, so hear me when I say that you should keep your hypocrisy to yourself.
This video is a poor analysis of the situation. It almost portrays France as innocent.
@@Salisboury Because they are. Africans caused their own problems.
There is a reason why ECOWAS countries are the poorest among the poorest continent. 500 billion as colonial tax per year is a kill shot. But sadly the ECOWAS-leaders were hand picked by the west to serve their interests. Such a coup is the only solution it seems.
Can you stop saying Africa as if its a country. It's literally the west African countries that have a problem with France. Not the whole continent
I agree, TLDR definitely treats Africa like it’s one huge entity. But in all fairness, I’d say virtually every country on the continent has some sort of issue with France one way or another. Whether it be the people or government
Most African nations & pretty much most Africans on the continent have a problem with France
@@bababababababa6124 yeah no idea what this guy is talking about, I’m from Southern Africa and we all hate Fr*nce
@@bababababababa6124 The problem with that is that that's not only Africa which has problems with the French...
@@daandevos122Africa is one . Is the eyes of the world
“Why _____ hates France” could be a new series.
As a 🇹🇷 I just hope that life gets better for my African friends.
You know in entire world history who did maximum numbers of genocide
1 turkish Race
2 brittish Race
3 franch Race and many others
Thank you my friend we like turks from east africa.
@@Santanibalak1 interesting lie but no.
1. Spanish
2. British
3. French
4. Russian
5. not a direct culture but America
6. Chinese
7. German
8. Turkish
9. Japanese
10. Arabs
Any other claim is completly brainrotten and should get you arrested and forced to take history lessons
@@superfranky8054 but you are wrong historically india(BHARAT) is the world most population country also richest and Bharat hold around 33% of all world population
In alone india turkish Race did genocide more than 500 million indians from 1526 to 1707
And brittish dirty blood Race also commit 500 million direct or indirect genocide in india from 1757 to 1947( more than 100 million people genocide in Just 1905 to 1935 Time)
No one comes close to these dirty Race
But I promise you both Race can't see 22th century
@@superfranky8054 Thanks for bringing the correct list.
People underestimate how many people the Spanish killed.
It's pretty clear that France never really left the colonial era, for example if France has been a partner for over 50 years and those countries are still some of the poorest in the world, France was only taking resources from these people which is unacceptable. As African American person I would love for Africa nations to pull it together and really show the world how great Africa is. China & Russia however aren't saviors, it's just another form of colonialisim that is more palatable for modern audiences.
What ressources did they taken ?
This area was always poor, way more rural than Nigeria, since the beginning.
That's the reason why France got it during the scramble of Africa. UK saw it as too poor and too difficult to stabilize than Nigeria.
As an old man I have taken an interest in African history since the 1960s, especially pre-colonial history. The ideals of Marcus Garvey and Kwame Nkrumah are no more achievable in the near future than they were at the time. It took Western Europe about a thousand years of bloody interstate conflict to achieve whatever unity it has since 1945. It took the United Sates a bloody civil war in which more Americans died than in any of their other conflicts since, in order for the USA to emerge as a global power. Compared to when I was young, it heartens me to see the possibilities that many African Americans have been able to achieve for themselves. You know better than I do there is still a very long way to go. As for Africa, states were flung together artificially by colonial powers from outside, often putting peoples who were enemies for centuries under the same government. To achieve real unity in any single African country has not even proved possible in countries where there are very few different ethnic groups (OK Botswana may be the exception). As for unity between African states, sadly not during the years that are left to me.
where did all that western aid go?
to their elite
Brother, I’m against neocolonialism but the reason African countries can’t have nice things is because your governments are beyond corrupt! Solve the corruption and watch you society flourish
These countries are poor because French colonialism ended. They would be better off if the French had never left.
You forgot to mention how the french overthrow any leader that challenges their hegemony in the region.
Nice the same old story from 60 years ago
How do you know he forgot to mention this? The poster may have omitted this intentionally, rather than forgot.
The video literally said France has intervene in Africa militarily more than 50 times. Yet you're trying to make it seem like France overthrowing African leaders who don't support them is some false narrative pushed by Africans. When 9 Africans leaders have been documented to have been killed with assistance from France and NATO. You people are a piece of work.
@@karinasnooodles_ Really Gadaffi was not that long ago
Yeah. That guy is either extremely bias or extremely uninformed
I always thought it was funny how in modern warfare 3 multiplayer some maps had generic pmcs vs generic African militia. But now it seems they may have been onto something
Sierra Leone and Somalia missions huh
@@era323 yeah but I was talking about the multiplayer
Remember modern Warfare with the Russia thing? COD is an American propaganda machine
@@wrestlinganime4life288 what’s your point?
Not a single mention of France's oil interests with TotalEnergies in Africa
You know, when there is a "coup" in Africa, the main difference is that the new ruler changes the numbers of the account where the money goes...
Everytime they blame France, but when you dig a little bit, you see new people in power there harvesting the money of the country.
if the african nations were worth a scrap they would have built their own wealth when they became selfgoverned. But they never diid. They bite the hand that feeds them and support dictatorship as the fucking walls crumble all around them.
Maybe they'll stop blaming France when the french military bases and mining companies leave.
It's obvious they don't want them in their country.
"everytime they blame France" yet nothing has changed by France..they're still stealing from the Africans so id say France is to blame
@@Frostchris4121 Certainly .... but did they will perform better whive Russia or China at their side ??
You don't know what France has done
Felt like you should have mentioned Libya when that brief anti nato reason…
That might be why, the defensive Alliance of the North Atlantic over threw Gadaffi
This channel is just puppet media pretending to be impartial. Every African leader than has spoken about an African alliance, single currency or unity has been killed by "the defensive Alliance of the North Atlantic".
France has done so many terrible things that go unnoticed because they happen to not be the #1 superpower. After their colony Haiti gained its independence and the former slaves on the island seized the plantations, France forced Haiti to spend the next 122 years spending most of their GDP on paying back the French for lost property; to enforce this, they would show up with their navy and blockade the island.
The US tried to take over Haiti in the 50s, failed and has been embargoed ever since
The French are absolutely ridiculous for doing that. The British also lost "property" when they abolished slavery on all British soil including British colonies. You know what they did about their "lost property"? In 1833, Britain used 40% of its national budget to buy freedom for all slaves in the Empire. Britain borrowed such a large sum of money for the Slavery Abolition Act that it wasn’t paid off until 2015. This means that living British citizens helped pay for the end of the slave trade with their taxes." THAT is how it's done. You don't abolish slavery, free a colony, and then make the colony pay you back for everything you lost LOLLLLL. France is so dumb wtf.
East Africa should check on the UK too
Unlike most other former empires, France doesn't apologise for what they've done to other nations and they seem to actively go out of their way to avoid taking ownership of what they've done in the past. Verbally attacking and discrediting anyone who calls them out on it.
Yes, I hear Russians, Chinese, Indians, Egyptians, Turks, Spanish etc. etc. etc. Apologising 24/7 for their former empires.
Only France fails to do this 🙃
And French Presidents actually apologised on multiple instances, for the Algerian war, for not doing enough to prevent the Tutsi genocide and others, I would even say they apologised a lot more than other colonial powers
1. im not french
2. i will not apologise for anything my ancestors have done i have 0 responsibilety for that
Here's TDLR's answer... bots spouting misinformation on social networks... and uneducated / gullible people buying it.
@@SkyGlitchGalaxy huh? Why would India have to apologize for their empire? India didn't colonize anything. They were the ones that were colonized. That empire is literally the country itself.
Instead British should be the one apologizing which they haven't done
Ah macron made big friends with Jinping, called the US essentially a neocolonial power in the pacific because they are making defence deals, and China responds to that friendship by dislodging him from Africa. Can’t help but find that rather ironic.
yeah these comments were idiotic, trying to pander to Winnie the Pooh, expected better from macron
France is a comedy
With France still being an empire, I’m all for France leaving Africa for good
Interesting to see and hear this developments.
Another European conveniently left out the most important part about how the CFA Franc works. How 80 percent of those 14 countries money have to go to the Bank of France. To get it back, it has to be in the form of a loan with interest, and only if France approves.
It's 50 percent of their foreign exchange funds, not their overall funds.
@@questionmaker5666 plus 30% tax
@@questionmaker5666 Even if it's 50, it's still ridiculous.
they can make their own currency cant they? if its so bad why keep the currency? stop treating africans like babies, quite racist really.
I have absolutely no idea how this currency works and I'm sure it's very boring to research.
What I'm sure of is that at any time those countries can have their own money, currency or banking system. Maybe they still use this one because they estimate it's better, more stable, more advantageous for commerce, I have no idea.
I'm just sure that they can have something else if they want.
You’re wrong on France being the only former colonial power to have military bases in Africa (the British have two training facilities in Kenya of course).
Yes but do you here about British neocolonialism no.
Former British colonies are the most succesfull countrys in africa now while "former" french colonies are the poorest
Well ... french former colonies are in Sahel , a sub-saharian era and quite poor place to live .
Maybe France didn't help but it's to easy to put all the guilt on France @@user-fb8si6wf8u
@@user-fb8si6wf8ubecause the Brits left their colonies suddenly also leaving it to them to deal with their own problems leading to many harsh wars in the regions, aka they can still be blamed for going so far opposite of the french they created lots of problems too
@@erwannthietart3602 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_military_intervention_in_the_Sierra_Leone_Civil_War
I think Every African and Asian country should take a stance against European and American corruption.
France needs to leave these countries alone so that they can deal with their very own affairs and people period
I think French foreign policy needs to be modernized and doesn't reflect the geopolitics of 2023 at all. In the international media, the French government often refers to own colonies when explaining its foreign policy, and we, as modern citizens, cannot understand what they are saying, and sometimes it feels anachronistic. I think it's time for the people themselves to question whether Gaullisme, the foundation of French ruling ideology, is the right policy for modern France.
Whites hate blacks unfortunately. If France had used its old colonies as a manufacturing base then the current issues with China and Africa could have been avoided entirely! It could have been a win-win. People refuse to admit though that different colors don't like each other enough to let that happen. Many white French people would rather be neighbors with a white Ukranian fleeing the war with Russia than a black African from a former french Colony who grew up with French culture + schooling who is fleeing islamic terrorism fueled indirectly by French oil interests in the Sahel.
Give an example of French government referring to own colonies.
I see people saying that a lot, but as someone who follow closely geopolitic, especially of France, I NEVER EVER saw that.
For me, it's just an inferiority complex from Africans. This is how THEY perceive, this relation, not how it is.
I will give you an example :
During the first visit of Macron in Africa, he went to a university.
After the speech, students asked him stuff like : "We have electricity problem in our university, how can you solve it".
Macron was very thrown off by those questions and ended up saying that he was just the President of France, not their.
@@mrsupremegascon Oh, boy.. I'm not African. I'm simply saying that I couldn't understand the foreign policy in general. How do you evaluate the photo of Macron sitting at a long table with Putin at the early days of the Ukraine war? and also what do you think was the motivation behind Macron's words earlier this year when he met with Xi Jinping and stated that Europe should not be a 'vassal' in the US-China clash? The bottom line is this, France is the one of largest leader in the EU, But, Does the French president represent the voice of the rest of Europe well? I'm talking about diplomacy in general, not just in Europe. When I listen to foreign policy, I don't really understand what they are saying.
You're actually correct ands have hit the nail in the head with this analysis. Im from one of the francophone countries in africa and I watch some french media debate shows and to me it's crazy how out of touch they are with what's really going on. I think any expert advocating for Gaullisme should visit these african countries and speak with the locals...not the manufactured out of touch elites. If you actually did that you will get the real sense of whats been brewing for decades.
@@mrsupremegascon yea you got it, it's on their end they really they do think that France can save them not just from the Muslims but build their infrastructure. now they are praising putin when they arent ever going to get help from Putin they're just getting the Wagner group!
This whole video is packaged as though France hasn't done anything "unfair" to it's African "partners" since colonialism, and that the only issue is that China & Russia waged an information war.. Has anyone in TL;DR even bothered to look into all of the MANY ways that France has hampered progress in all of those nations *AFTER* colonialism? Maybe that is also part of the issue here? It's only a West vs East issue if you (or China) want to paint it that way, but this is definitely just mostly about France's neo-colonialism
TLDR are pretty shallow and dishonest in the analysis. For example worrying about an information war yet most biased information comes from the West. Laughable really
How have they hampered progress? Despite their stint fighting in Algeria, France has done quite a bit for Africa during their tenure there. The CFA Franc is a reliable and strong currency, especially compared to other African currencies. Meanwhile, the Niger uranium trade is wholly beneficial to Nigers economy who simply can not access the industry with local capabilities. As well as that, if I'm not wrong, France gives about 16 billion Euro annually in foreign aid to Africa, which surpasses the entire GDP of Niger.
Yes, it's a very weak analysis. "Russia and China are evil, and so only misinformation can have led Africa to think they are better than France and the rest of the west." Yeah, right.
TLDR is not a very thorough news source. They're given stories to run by the UK Foreign office.
TLDR has close connection to the political establishment this is why you often see them behave like goverment mouthpiece.
As an American, I have a very specific opinion about this story, I can't tell the difference between French and Russian flags 🤷♂
There are no good guys, Africa know this. It will work with the lesser of the two evils for what it needs.
Would LOVE a series on this 5:48 !!!
Information War???
You mean like you are doing?
I have lived in South Africa for all 56 years of my life and the Western actions have become clear to me.
In fact, the last 130 years of Europe / American actions have been deviating for Africa.
you are western
@@henriquemelchiorgomes8750
No, I'm a 9th generation white South African with open eyes and common sense.
@@andrewpienaar4522 so, western. White, speaking an European derived language, with christian heritage and supporting democracy
@@henriquemelchiorgomes8750
So are most blacks and coloureds (Yes, the mixed race people here identify as "Coloured") here in South Africa, other than being white of course.
Jy weet fokkol van wat hier aan gaan nie.
@@henriquemelchiorgomes8750
None the less, Even if I qualify as Western in your eyes, it doesn't mean I can't see what they are doing to Africa and so should you.
It's nice to know that Africa is a single country of one people, ethnicity, religion, lanugage and borders. Thanks in advance, for explaining how all of Europe has fallen out with Swaziland for your next video.
😂😂well said
This channel keeps losing my trust every video I swear
Clearly they didn't mean the whole of Africa
@@hightower4567 Sorry, I assumed they meant Africa due to them saying Africa.
@@hightower4567it definitely seems that way. The way TLDR reports on africa is as if it’s one entity
i have no symphathy for France, the level of exploitation that they carried out of Africa is one of the darkest period in their history and i hope Africa stands unted against France
The problem is, if Africa were to stand up against colonisers it would be against the whole world…
China is currently putting African countries millions in debt that they can’t pay off to stunt African growth
The U.S. has abandoned their African allies like Liberia and South Africa, basically abandoning Africans
Russia has been overthrowing African democracies to install pro-Russian dictatorships that oppress Africans
It’s time the African Union step up and spearhead financial and geopolitical independence across the African continent.
Lmfaoo the African Union is a puppet entity that backs ECOWAS... fuck em
Isnt AU funded and so then directed by EU?
modern Africaine are saying like "why would we let France play with us like that why don't we make relationship with Russia or China and have more than one country in our continent and have them rivel between them "
Certainly sounds reasonable!
So, a total hate and chasing everything French is not the wise way to proceed if the plan is to have them all present and all competing ?
Also, think of countries like Japan or South Korea that can bring a lot more good things than China or Russia because those two countries are very crazy, or insidious.
Japan or South Korea will be business, techno-oriented, etc... without cancerous ideologies.
Hell, try Taiwan even ! Any reasonable African that has not had its mind rearranged by China and Russian information and opinion warfare should see a friend in this island-country resisting a much more terrible colonialism.
@@qrsx66 China has been the fastest growing economy in the world they produce almost everything so it will be cheaper than others and for Russia I just don't trust any other country that side with USA or the European Union
I'm so glad you brought up the information war!!! That's crucial😮
French hate in Africa is not only about geopolitics and commerce, but the attitude of France towards Africans. Take for example how France treats its citizens of African descent on its own country.
Marginalization, racism, police brutality, etc
Racism from the continent that kicked every white people out of it 60 years ago ?
so why africans still come to France ? masochism ? or maybe your opinion is shit.
They can go back, then.
@@Alex_G-ex1qdwhyt ppl will be minorities in their own lands lol cry about it
And white women love non white men
I'm moroccan, and whilst we are currently more stable than our sub-saharan brothers, even here the hate for france is growing, the majority of the population even want the ditch french as an official foreign language and finally replace it with english, we are reducing our economic connections with France in favor for Spain, China, the US... Overall, everyone agrees that France is no longer the way to go if we really care about our country's development. Unfortunately, this also means many people are slowly leaning towards supporting any anti-western propaganda.
yeah, im sick of that im from austria and always get thrown in with the brits and french, we never had any african colonies! its honestly kinda racist to generalize like that. And its will bite africa in the ass long term, hope they can be rational
@@captainalex157It's not racist to hate Europeans. In fact, it's a good thing.
@@gfys756lmao, well at least you are honest. im sure this mentality will bring you much joy and happiness in life xD
@@captainalex157 It has brought me much joy and success in life. Seeing white Europeans finally getting paid back for their crimes is something we should all admire.
@@gfys756 it is racist to hate others based on race... If everyone would just see other humans as just humans instead of seeing race or ethnicity, then this world would definitely be better. Not that I think it'll be happening any time soon.
I guess me and all my homies must be African too then 💀
I mean, distantly yeah
#JeSuisAfrique 💀
Getting neo colonialists out of the continent is good, but if it's just to replace them with other, just as brutal ones like Russia and China, then it's not an independence move, it's just choosing who's boots your leader in charge is gonna be licking
It really seems like Africa as a whole will never be independent or at least fully sovereign, just some individual countries that could nail it
They want partnership not a dom / sub relationship, former colonial powers are viewed with mistrust among this new young generation of Africans especially in the Sahel
@@dym6464RF fights imperialistic war against former colony. China extracts resources, Uighurs genocide.
Africans: "partnership" 🤡
@@dym6464Random person: Lovingly embraces a cactus and a burning oven, dies horribly.
Someone on the internet: "He just WANTED true love".
Oh, now everything makes sense.
@@pabloagusti5104The whole reason there’s instability within the Sahel is NATOs intervention in Libya, the wests narrative to keep Africa in shackles is breaking
The arrogance of the west; tell this to Iraq/Afghanistan/Libya/Syria.
A friend indeed is a friend when one needs
Why are French military bases in Africa or a American military bases in Africa. Russia and China don’t come with military bases. They actually invest and fairly pay for the minerals.
The french military bases are light ones that can be dismantled (like the ones in Mali were). They were put in place to face jihadism and are under the control of the countries in which they operate.
Speaking about Russia, they are setting up military presence (wagner) using deals and they create debt traps, China does the same to grow its influence and is mass investing to own the most countries possible. What China often does is that they create projects, but don't use any local labor, but host country pays for it, and often deal is set up in such a way it isn't necessarily worth it anyways.
@@Alornell sure! Very good propaganda you’re drinking there.
Dear africans, look at what Russia does to those who they call brothers and neighbours, and wonder what they would do to you.
We have seen and experienced France's terrorism firsthand ...better try russia for a change
If you harbor an enemy in your family that's been planning and ready to destroy mine and I request you several times not to do so but you refuse to listen, then you're no longer my brother, I'll destroy yours before you destroy mine
@@conniekabasharira7084please show me when ukraine threatened russia in any way? lay of the russian propaganda please
Are we meant to trust Westerners that have BRUTALISED and OPPRESSED us for 500 years (and counting) ???????
As a moroccan we are tired of france always tells us what to do its time for africa to act in its own interest and let everyone trade no special deals to our colonisers independence is the right too choose your friends
As a French, we are tired of your whining.
You are right mon Ami ! Bu its donw to the morrocan to act and so far.. you are not doing much
How's Western Sahara doing?
@@joeyjojojrshabadoo7462 great 2 days ago we killed 4 higher commanders of polisario also we still control it and just came back from it at summer laayoune is beautiful i did also go to dakhla that was beautiful too i recommend it
FRANCE NEEDS TO LEAVE MOROCCO QUICKLY WE DONT WANT FRENCH THIEVES IN MOROCCO. 😤 SAHARA IS MOROCCAN AND FRANCE HAS NO PLACE IN AFRICA 🎉🎉🎉
Fallen out is an understatement
I feel like a lot of westerners don't like France, and get a bit of a thrill out of seeing France embarrassed or humiliated, in part because the French are stereotyped as very holier-than-thou, so it feels like a justified comeuppance. But I also think this attitude makes a lot of us just lazily assume that ANY anti-French sentiment, anywhere, is always entirely rational. This video does a good job of making the case for why anti-French sentiment in Africa is something we have to be able to consider carefully, and not just blithely dismiss as something the French "obviously had coming" and thus not worth thinking critically about from a geopolitical perspective.
True. The "france bad" meme was funny for a while, but some people used it as a pass to be outright xenophobic towards french people for no reason.
This doesn't mean hating french colonialism is irrational, it just means that the general anti-french hate is irrational, or at least worthy of scrutiny.
also hey JJ, my man, what u doin here?
Imperialist babble….
@@kcailly1 I don't see him defending imperialism, to be honest.
Are you speaking for yourself?
I don’t think it is fair to say that Africa hates France. I think a much better appropriate statement is “All people hate exploitive .” France is very exploitive. .
Firstly, there are 54 countries on the continent with different relationship with France, some like Gabon are strongly pro-France
Western hypocrisy and atrocities is largely to be blamed for anti-western sentiments. You cannot claim to be pro-democratic when you actively support some of the most authoritarian and undemocratic government on the continent. Both the USA and France have actively and passively supported coups on the continent even against democratic elected government, but cry wolf when its not in their favour. Gabon a strong France ally has had two presidents in its history a father and son, Cameroon's Paul Biya has been in charge since 1975. Guess who has always stepped in to save these men when there is an attempt to remove them? Democratic France.
Gabon so pro france that back in WW2 they were pro france.
Thank You for the Truth
The point of using essentially the euro/ franc is arguably symbolic. Only French farmers may benefit because of higher African export prices while on the other hand raw materials from Africa become more expensive in France and Eurozone.
You could have also mentioned Sarkozy's notorious speech in 2007 on African farmers living 'outside history', untouched by modernity and progress.
Goodness. French / Western imperial arrogance lives on. Despite the environmental DEVASTATION caused by Western agrobusiness!!
While that's an insult it can be partially true, and not only about agriculture, a lot of work has to be done.
France doesn't buy African raw materials. France is stealing them.
@@TR4Rhave you heard of the Amish? There are agrarian life styles all over the world, I’m sure Sarkozy could find some pretty humble French farmers if he cared to challenge his own narrative. But since you know so well, who are these people that have been “untouched” by history?
@@0oShwavyo0 Yes, I've heard and seen about the Amish and I deeply disagree with their way of life and their fanatical Christianity. There's also a little town in the Netherlands where the people live like that. I know a couple of things, not that much about Africa. I understand the offense in Sarkozy's words buy you won't have too much modernity in Eswatini, Niger or Somalia. It's not they haven't been touched by history, history has been a curse for them.
"It imports a significant fraction of both its oil and Uranium from Africa" is an interesting way to say "It exploits its former colonies like its the Eighteenhundreds"
The West must reduce its dependency on oil and pay a fair price for uranium to the extent that it is necessary.
You are right. We should blockade Africa and make sure that no one import stuff from them.
This is what he do for Iran, and it's great. Iranian can keep their oil and now they are as rich as Norwegians.
French trade in africa is barely 5%.
@@M-J-qn8tdthat's because they don't trade. They take
@@simplyizustic6122 Good luck with the chinese then.France can "take" elsewhere and actually does for all africans cockyness.
I have heard a very old man history teacher lecturing us about the French and their colonial practice. He said after the Second World War, Britian retreated from most of her colonies to gain strength. But the French, they like turn back the clock, they were still obsessing with their way of colonialism......that's why they got their bloody nose defeated in the 1954 "Battle of Dien Bien Phu", Vietnam. His remarks was true, the stubborn Frenchy didn't change at all. "Turn back the clock" what a precise description of them!
Actually, originally France wanted to negotiate and wanted to grant Vietnam an independence. And it was very close. But here the US has come, saying you cannot allow the "red threat" to spread, we'll support you with all you need and then the French changed their decision from granting independence to a war
Because Britain and its unelected house of lords and its antiquated monarchy is not clinging at all to its past? No obsession there?...
Whataboutism is rampant here 😂
“French colonialism bad”
“BUHT WHAT ABOUT CHINA”
A few years ago I was watching a vid about British decolonisation, I came across a top rated post I translated saying "The French got to keep their colonies!" followed by appraisal from others. I thought it was a joke, the works of frustrated shitposters but this weeks been an eye opener! when I find it I'll amend this one.
Wow. I'm surprised but also not that much. À bas la France!
The Comonwealth isn't in good shape ..
@druisteen the commonwealth is just a ragtag group of nations. Britain left the colonization game ages ago. The French remained
the english never stopped their colonialism.
canada, usakistan, australia are all english colonies that were NEVER returned to their rightful owners.
in most of america, after the american wars of independence, the spanish at least had the decency of leaving......they kept all the stolen resources, but at least the land was returned to the rightful owners.
in the parts of america the english took, the lands were never returned
The British still lobby Australlia for the Tempest fighter , the Type 36 Frigate and the Aukus Submarine .
Previoulsy that was the Centurion tank ....🤣
Both are extremely costly project and Australlia isn't 100% sure she need them . @@KingAgniKai
We're gonna need some source about that "information war" my dude.
In the late 50's when Guinea became independent its president held a nationwide referendum on whether the country should remain part of the African - French monetary union. More than 90% of voters voted to leave the union and a bitter and spiteful France enacted what they sarcastically labeled "divorce without alimony": France immediately withdrew over 5000 of its citizens,who had held core and vital positions and thus experience and knowledge and expertise in civil service, education, technology, health, banking etc and INSTRUCTED them to sabotage or destroy anything they couldn't take back with them. This resulted in the sabotage, destruction, burning etc of entire school libraries, public records, medicines, labs, crops, labs, hospitals and clinics, agricultural and medical and scientific equipment, offices, military equipment etc.
That sums up France's attitude towards Africa: if it can't control or gain then "fcuk you"
Meloni was right about France in Africa
But Gadhafi was right about Italy in Libya.
@@williambranch4283 what is the reason for saying that?
@@chilloutcentral2097 Italy was clearly an enemy of Libya, always. Like France is to Algeria. Gadhafi understood this.
@@williambranch4283 what are you talking about?
@@chilloutcentral2097 History
Because it's easier to blame someone else for your problems than take charge and deal with them yourself.
Correctly placing blame and scapegoating are two entirely different things. France is not being scapegoated
So you don't mind them making uranium and oil more expensive for France?
That's why there was a coup in Niger. They blame the government
@@BigmanDogsyes, cause it's your country problem
@@maman1414 What is my country?
It is long past time that the people of all countries had the right to rule themselves without the interference of other governments and multinational companies that think the people are too stupid to know what is best for them. In reality those outside interests are inflicting on others what is right for them and the local people are made to shut up and get on with it.
please explain how african countries "dont have the right to rule themselves"
@@captainalex157 ALL African countries do have an absolute right to rule themselves as the people see fit. All too often, western politicians, militaries and companies see nothing wrong with imposing their own greed.
@@carlyoung6111 foreign entities can only influence these countries with their permission. Please stop this victim BS grow up and stop whining
The title implies that they were ever on good terms to begin with, which is…..debatable.
As a Haitian, I’m very happy to see my African brothers throw off the last vestiges of colonialism. I’m very wary of Russia and China however. Haiti is going through the same issue now with many people supporting them because they spite the west. But the west has only itself to blame for that
Haitians are literally African colonists.
As a French, I will be happy to cut all ties with Africa soon as well.
So much sugar--coating 😂😂. France literally intiated coups in west africa numerous times.
Yes, we're moustache-twirling villains. Geopolitics aren't fair. Not going to complain when my country gets kick out of Africa, especially since China is picking up the tab, means they'll be begging us to come back in less than 10 years lol
Yeah....no. Either things goes better in Africa, and it means France was indeed doing shitty shit there, or things goes WORSE and then Africans can just go f themselves for losing the opportunity to finally rise thanks to their new better partners.
In any case, France has nothing to do there anymore for the next decades to come. Let things heal themselves a little or fester and die, then back to better relations....or none at all, forever. Who knows.
@@PasDeBrasFRnoone will miss you. anyway in 10 years you wont have any meaningful military.
@@PasDeBrasFRyou are delusional if you think anyone is gonna beg you to come back. No one begged Britain to come back after they left and best case scenario they forget about you. Worst case they continue to hate you for a good while.
@@PasDeBrasFRno one will miss France
One lesson of international politics is tha that it is always best to diversify. Never, ever rely on one partner on anything vital or you will regret because there is no such thing as gratitude or kindness in politics. There are only cynical actors fighting for their own interests. Always have an alternative.
France don't rely on Africa at all.
Literally relying on the US
that is why Africa wants to diversify away from France. But France does not want to diversify away from Africa's resources and wants to monopolize Africa.
@@Komeshokakunanwene
Which African ressources ?
Africa represent nothing in French trade.
@@mrsupremegascon Lol. "Africa represents nothing in French trade" Tell that to your rulers. Why do you think we are involved in this discussion? You are in denial or clueless. Why do you think France had troops in Central Africa Republic, Mali, Burkina Faso and Niger? Why did France go after Lybia and Ghadaffi? France is not in Africa to "help" Africa. They in there for their own interests. I come from Namibia and we supply Uranium to France. Niger also Supplies Uranium to France. France has mining companies in Africa and Total of France? How do you think they are in business? A simple Google will do you justice.
You're trivializing the grossly negative impact the currency system & economic damage France has had on the 14 Africa countries
Honest analysis.
"Information war"? As an African who lives in the west, I remember Libya. I remember that the French also overthrowing Thomas Sankara. I remember the west supported apartheid. The same pattern exists all over the developing world: Iraq, Chile, Honduras, Palestine, Haiti...
You guys must enjoy your Information war😉
I agree, "information war" was pretty pathetic. We could easily win their minds and hearts, if only they knew the truth about us! Well, they do know the truth about us.
It is because they don't need strong Africa or Middle East or Russia, but we will change the game together
@@spartakmoskva5708Fuck France just as much as Russia and China, All those major powers are hypocrites anyways
Ikr?
It's like calling out a bully caught bullying as "information war"
Why Africa hates France?
answer: who doesn't?
Literally
Yeah, because Russia and China are so much more humane than France.
@@sgn988what isn’t wrong with them?
@@sgn988 they're french
@@sgn988 france
Let’s not forget the casual racism of the French culture. That must have a big impact.
The truth is given the information we have gotten of late about the history of France in Africa, they (the French) have been anything but friends or even human at times.
1:22 Nigeria and Gana have a GDP per capita 5× highter on avarage than the franco CFA zone. Not beeing a former french colony is a factor of relative sucess in the area.
Burkina Faso, Niger.. : LANDLOCKED
Ghana, Nigeria : access to the sea, the Niger delta is a commercial and logistic hub.
The brits took the best positioned places for commerce in Africa. Then the French took big landlocked areas that were left, they had an equvalent empire in size, but not well connected.
It might sum to GEOGRAPHY why the French ex colonies perform worse.
We Europeans 🇪🇺 should have first of all one and only one voice. Second of all, we should stop treating African countries as colonies but as partners. Convince, do not force
We already treat them as partners since decades.
@@mrsupremegascon Doesn't look like it
@@NoName-hg6cc To my knowledge the EU as a whole treats African countries as partners. As for France specifically? It sounds like it might have a different relationship with them.
@@banedon8087 The EU maybe. The singles states...yes and no
@@HammochiKisrilk Well consider this: Your country has no doubt done terrible things in the past to it's neighbours and others. Yet I expect that you have been forgiven, particularly when that's been in the past and commited by others. It's your choice to forgive, but it's also up to others to forgive you.
Full subtitles are desirable.
I had no idea this was happening
France preaches water and drinks wine let then survive on the trade they keep preaching to the world and leave Africa. You can't put what France 🇫🇷 has done in AFRICA in words, the video was too linient on France.
I am tired of those videos and press articles on France and their so-called « neocolonies ».
Of course West Africa is important for France in terms of influence and for some ressources (especially uranium and ores).
Nevertheless, we shouldn’t forget that this part of the world (CFA zone) weight less than 0,6% in France external trade balance.
Moreover, one of the arguments often used to criticize France foreign policy in West Africa is the Franc CFA. But France make no money out of it. It mostly benefit the countries which used this currencies because they wouldn’t be able to have a fully stable and independent currencies by theirselves (economies are to weak and reliant on exportations of commodities).
Most of this countries are politically instable, with a high elite who manage to keep power and money.
And there is my point. If this part of Africa doesn’t want France, then fine, I totally understand its willingness of being free from the former colonialism. And France isn’t really reliant on those countries.
However, this will absolutely resolve nothing.
The major issue in Western Africa is despotism and contracts between important firms (Total, Shell, Vivendi, Sinopec and so forth) and the leaders of those countries which doesn’t benefit the population.
The money which comes from exportations is untraceable and rarely results in development. The problem isn’t France here, it’s just bribery of the upper classes.
Western Africa is full of ressources and I really wish the better for this zone. But the problem here isn’t France, and replacing France by China or Russia will not resolve anything …
PS : Sorry for my English, I’m French... I am fully open to debate if some of you want to.
Yeah people tend to forget that military coups end up often designating scapegoats for the poor stability of the country. It's all France's fault if [insert problem] is happening. Not that we french are angels, but going on a logic such as "France bad, Russia savior" is kind of replacing one imperialism with another (yeah it's always about colonialism but I guess Africa was never under russian dominion) is NOT the solution to domestic issues.
Africa has a serious problem of corruption, illiteracy and "comrade-to-president" conundrum.
Pulling out France is a ok solution however that will not erode the rot already systematically designed to suppress the masses. CORRUPTION in leadership.
Saying most african countries are democratic is akin to a cold sun.
Good observation my new french commenter.
PS. Born, raised, lived, suffering my whole life in West Africa as we speak.
The countries need monetary independence. That may be the only way they realize building stronger institutions is good for their progress. Don't patronize countries by stating they can't handle their independence coz that's what they are fighting. The French need to let the currency go as it will just mean more resentment and further losses in the future. Relations will improve some few years down the line when they learn how systems work and the challenges
Anyone who supports France's actions in Africa should not complain about Russia's actions in Africa.
Thank you for saying the truth
We found out some companies are timed out & time learning English and other language including French language but no any French anywhere in Africa if there any possibility something enough is enough we wished we knew more than where in now but we are never ever dreamed quite thank you everyone for sharing
France is no scapegoat, they are subjagators, they own the currency of the country controlling they financial culture, which they failed at. the insecurity is a result of their neglect.
What a brilliant video. No good deed goes unpunished huh?
What? The top comment says, "I'm absolutely astonished that you skipped over the ridiculous “independence agreement” that french shoved down their former colonies - first right of sale to natural resources is one of the biggest reasons the region is poor." That's the opposite of a good deed. That is usurious.
@@Lee-fw9mr Mate, what do you think Wagner has or gets in return for operation in Mali & Niger? Vodka?
But yes, perhaps the west, including the UK should pressure France to provide more of the people's wealth back to the people.
Anyways, the point of my comment was to highlight the brilliant analysis behind the video. Perhaps it lacked research, but it had great analysis. Anything else was obiter
Being paid for military operations in cash is one thing. But forcing "dibs" on an entire country's natural resources for eternity is not in the same league. It's usurious. Perhaps the French military operations are there to protect their "dibs" on those natural resources... and to ensure that a government who honours that forced agreement stays in place, versus a government which tears that forced agreement up.
I was upset when I read your comment: "no good deed goes unpunished." It's not a good deed. It's self-interest.
The French presence is solely to protect it's claim on her old colony's natural resources (for eternity).
@@Lee-fw9mr Umm. Do you know who is running gold mines with child labour in Mali?
I recognise you perceive Neo-colonialism in the modern French rhetoric. But I must urge you to see through much of the propaganda which is being funnelled through foreign owned news media in Africa. The West are much better partners than Russia and China. The East is bringing us closer to war, not us. Russia is, as ever, engaging in Anti-Western and China is turning BRICS into an Anti G7 Coalition. They are not much better than us if they're going to pay you for now only for your leaders to send you to war alongside China against the US.
The title should be "Why Africa hates France....Apart from everything they've done"
the crowed that met holland was cheering for him not because they liked france but because of his statment before the visit where he said that itis time for france to correct itis mistakes
and people thought that france will take responsibilities for what it has done in the past
and also you didnot even scratch the surface of why africans hate france mostly
its France, they dont need any more reason
Finally do western african countries stand up for their sovereignty and kick out the hypocrites!
And welcome other hypocrites how smart