Federal European State. The Future or Utopia?

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  • čas přidán 21. 12. 2023
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  • @GoodTimesBadTimes
    @GoodTimesBadTimes  Před 5 měsíci +30

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    • @fightforaglobalfirstamendm5617
      @fightforaglobalfirstamendm5617 Před 5 měsíci +2

      End the eu empire! Free Czechia, free Slovakia, free Hungary, free Poland, free Italia, free Britannia!

    • @giupetr968
      @giupetr968 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Utopia. Different languages and cultures bring to a new Jugoslavia. It will never happen.

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro Před 5 měsíci

      To put it simply. Federal EU would not happen! (at least for now) Thing is that France and Germany proved to be ineffective in ruling Europe. They compliance with Russia, is major issue. Europe was not fully in vassalage of Putin, only because majority of EU countries actually hold sane approach and counter it. Whole Federal project is only serving purpose of restoring Franco-German dominance, instead actually repairing issues of Europe.

    • @arisplugis5197
      @arisplugis5197 Před 5 měsíci

      i think European federation idea wouldn't be supported in national referendum. why giving even more sovereignty away?
      so i had to dislike this video. because i dislike federation idea.

    • @giupetr968
      @giupetr968 Před 5 měsíci

      @@TheRezro the Franco-German dominance does not exist, since they would be rivals. In human history, two major powers clash each other for dominance. No agreement would happen. Least but not last: the other countries would not accept to be ruled by one of them.

  • @PJ-om2wq
    @PJ-om2wq Před 5 měsíci +1105

    Ironically this EU superstate would not have been possible with UK in it because UK would veto it.

    • @sirc1446
      @sirc1446 Před 5 měsíci +197

      you understand whats Federal Level ,right? @@sigiloXXX

    • @guerreiro943
      @guerreiro943 Před 5 měsíci +93

      Good thing they left then. They won't be missed.

    • @JT.Pilgrim
      @JT.Pilgrim Před 5 měsíci +13

      Uk would become the Matriarch of CANUK

    • @alexanderrose1556
      @alexanderrose1556 Před 5 měsíci +127

      @@JT.Pilgrim CANUK isnt happening ever it was only just a weird fantasy of some of the terminaly online Brexit fans who couldnt cope with how badly they screwed up

    • @PJ-om2wq
      @PJ-om2wq Před 5 měsíci +5

      @@alexanderrose1556 it looks like UK is joining CPTPP quite soon though.

  • @melvinjansen2338
    @melvinjansen2338 Před 5 měsíci +280

    I would like to know who our europeans leaders are. I think 80% of People have no idea whats going on in european parliament

    • @Gio-ym4uj
      @Gio-ym4uj Před 5 měsíci +72

      I'm pro EU and that's a good critique! People should be more informed of what goes on! Agreed, mate.

    • @melvinjansen2338
      @melvinjansen2338 Před 5 měsíci +47

      @@Gio-ym4uj Me too, rightwing but very pro EU.
      And its a challenge because even following politics on the national level feels like a full time job already. 😂

    • @fischersfritz468
      @fischersfritz468 Před 5 měsíci +3

      The internet is nice for such things. Just look it up. Everything is explained and written down

    • @melvinjansen2338
      @melvinjansen2338 Před 5 měsíci +13

      @@fischersfritz468 I get your point. But people can barely keep track of politics within their country and that gets much more media attention than whatever EU does. Yet the EU train keep rumbling on so im in favor of governments creating more awareness

    • @someguycalledcerberus9805
      @someguycalledcerberus9805 Před 5 měsíci +11

      This is actually a result of a loose union. People care about politics only when it affects them. Since EU politics affect you less than national politics, you care only about national politics. But if the EU parliament would have a clearer and bigger impact on your life then, EU elections would be more interesting. Like how mostly nobody knows or cares about their local mayor or knows who their representative is, but they know the PM/President.

  • @GoodTimesBadTimes
    @GoodTimesBadTimes  Před 5 měsíci +348

    For those of you who felt that the conclusion was too short and did not give answers to still valid questions - sorry, we would break the 1 hour mark. But we'll try to find them and answer in early 2024. Why is the EU lagging behind? What are the main obstacles for Europe to catch up with the US or China? Is it possible to overcome them by bringing together all European interests? We will try to make an honest, supranational reflection.

    • @Chexmaster
      @Chexmaster Před 5 měsíci +3

      You forgot to add Montenegro

    • @hieronymusbutts7349
      @hieronymusbutts7349 Před 5 měsíci +22

      From my perspective, 51 minutes, 60 minutes, not that much difference. Does CZcams suppress videos above an hour long?

    • @HladniSjeverniVjetar
      @HladniSjeverniVjetar Před 5 měsíci

      @@Chexmaster What about Montenegro?

    • @garyb455
      @garyb455 Před 5 měsíci +6

      The EU is the problem

    • @Gio-ym4uj
      @Gio-ym4uj Před 5 měsíci

      bot @@garyb455

  • @TheMrCougarful
    @TheMrCougarful Před 5 měsíci +109

    Being American, I've never heard this part of European history summarized before. Well done.

    • @NuanceOverDogma
      @NuanceOverDogma Před 5 měsíci

      This channel sounds like Soros shills and corrupt corporate media propagandist.

    • @danrockwolf8772
      @danrockwolf8772 Před 5 měsíci +11

      Being american, u prolly thought europe was in jupiter

    • @189Blake
      @189Blake Před 5 měsíci +10

      Being American, you already thought Europe is a country

    • @PLF...
      @PLF... Před 5 měsíci +5

      To be fair, Europe doesn't have much oil

    • @Kaede-Sasaki
      @Kaede-Sasaki Před 4 měsíci +4

      Imagine an alternate universe where there is a Unites States of Europe and they are arguing against the American Union becoming a federation arguing membee-state sovereignty, and fearing the anti-ch--t, etc.

  • @trollon1232
    @trollon1232 Před 5 měsíci +247

    Im kinda dissappointed that you skipped Brandt and Schmidt. Especially sine Schmidt was a Eurofederalist who built the groundwork of the Euro with Giscard

    • @capslocked7274
      @capslocked7274 Před 5 měsíci +10

      agree but please regard that you could make an 1 hour documentary about each of them and the video is already 50 minutes long

    • @trollon1232
      @trollon1232 Před 5 měsíci +17

      @@capslocked7274 fair but skipping the 70s is just weird

    • @deviousdevil75
      @deviousdevil75 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@trollon1232
      I betcha it came down to time management….
      It’s always hard to achieve.

    • @dawid2383
      @dawid2383 Před 5 měsíci +2

      They already mentioned it in previous video.

    • @trollon1232
      @trollon1232 Před 5 měsíci +3

      And? This is supposed to be a full summary of eurofederalism. So its strange to skip germanys only Eurofederalist chancellors

  • @zuklarFTW
    @zuklarFTW Před 5 měsíci +84

    In June I was at the EYE2023 conference in Strasburg. I was honestly surprised to see there special areas and tents promoting the federalization of EU. A conference for European Youth should have a big diversity of views and discussions on these topics, but the feeling I left with, as a Romanian working and living in Poland, is that their vision of what EU is and what is should be is very different in the west of the continent.
    While for us here the EU is a tool to reach the objective of a better living and economic development, the westerners I've met there had the opinion that the EU is the final objective, to promote and enforce certain values.

    • @nenasiek
      @nenasiek Před 5 měsíci +13

      Then u havent talked to anyone outside large cities.
      I wasnt aware of those tents but it doesnt surprise me, I will be voting for whatever party is against federalisation.

    • @havencat9337
      @havencat9337 Před 5 měsíci +23

      you know very well that back in Romania politicians are corrupt as f, so we need rules and holds in place to get rid of corruption because local corrupt politicians wont change those rules that made them rich. Only this way Romania can prospere, eliminating corruption. So a federal EU its absolutely necessary! Cheers from a Romanian living in UK

    • @chrislambert9435
      @chrislambert9435 Před 5 měsíci +10

      So, if you were in the UK, would you support the "handing over" of the control of the UK's National Interest to a Federal EU ?

    • @simondymond8479
      @simondymond8479 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@havencat9337unfortunately the EU itself is deeply corrupt and getting more so

    • @ainslieberrafella
      @ainslieberrafella Před 5 měsíci +3

      What citizens think the EU is for is radically different from what those in the top positions of power in the EU think. They don't care about values or economic growth, except as how those things can be used to leverage their own power. They use that power to sideline competitors (France>UK) and the freedom to wield it as they see fit, and to hell with the people.

  • @pridefulobserver3807
    @pridefulobserver3807 Před 5 měsíci +71

    A yes, the Unholy German-Franco-Hispanic-Italic..x.x.x.x....(takes breath)...and finnish confederation. Truly a classic of european history to be.

    • @the11382
      @the11382 Před 5 měsíci +14

      Sequel to the Finno-Korean hyperwar?

    • @Faithplusmore
      @Faithplusmore Před 5 měsíci

      Cant await to see it lmao

  • @Zaillith
    @Zaillith Před 5 měsíci +3

    Thanks for putting out such great content! I love these videos. It really feels like I'm getting a look at the big picture. They are so well researched. I really enjoy how deep you go into the history, demographics, economics and all kinds of different contexts. Very well done!

  • @NorthLeafCrusader
    @NorthLeafCrusader Před 4 měsíci +9

    Last time a Frenchman/Italian and a German Austrian tried to unify Europe didn't go well. This proposition was also proposed nearly a century ago with a Map outlining Europe with the worst kind of drawn borders. Not to mention trying to unify a continent with so much variety in each corner of it is nearly impossible. There needs to be a single language and forcing another other groups to just abandon their heritage won't go well. This is a nonsensical idea. Lets not forget the development level range in certain areas is higher than in others which will just create more disparities.

    • @sandor7594
      @sandor7594 Před 3 měsíci

      Yes!

    • @CrisCheese_
      @CrisCheese_ Před měsícem +1

      why would u need a single language if the current state of languages works well, also there r cases where language has gradual dialect borders between countries too

  • @chrisquaglio5265
    @chrisquaglio5265 Před 5 měsíci +6

    This is the best video I have seen in a long time, thank you

  • @johnm2714
    @johnm2714 Před 5 měsíci +36

    The ending of the remaining veto areas would be foolish. Note how strategically misguided, for different reasons, France and Germany were in their Russia policy. Note also how badly France's attempts to maintain its colonial oversight of West Africa are currently backfiring. This video shows throughout how self-interest motivates these two powers. Recent experiences shows how misguided their policy can be as a consequence. The smaller countries will always need a dependable braking mechanism.

    • @jonathanodude6660
      @jonathanodude6660 Před 4 měsíci

      new york doesnt have a veto over the US and the US is doing just fine.

    • @catalindeluxus8545
      @catalindeluxus8545 Před 4 měsíci +8

      If you want to keep the veto, how do you address rogue players clearly harming the benefit and best interest of the EU, such as Hungary and Poland?

    • @johnm2714
      @johnm2714 Před 4 měsíci +5

      @@catalindeluxus8545 As Britain is no longer involved, fortunately that conundrum is not one I have to worry about. But in view of the catastrophic leadership provided by France and Germany separately in recent years over fundamental issues threatening the security of the bloc, I would be every bit as concerned about the poor leadership that they would offer you as about how frustrating Hungary can be over the next few years.

    • @davidbowie50yearsofbowiean23
      @davidbowie50yearsofbowiean23 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@catalindeluxus8545people like you are exactly why the EU should never become federal.
      Almost all nations only joined for economical benefit. But now if they differ in opinion and act accordingly with their Brussel masters, they're treated as and deemed traitors and bad actors.
      Its empire building and colonisation with a different name.
      Offer economic and industrial benefits in exchange for total subservience.

    • @RosscoAW
      @RosscoAW Před 4 měsíci +3

      True, but a truly *federalized (super)state* would have it's own, independent, unified unilateral perspective on foreign policy arising from it's direct responsibility for the entirety of the federation. A truly federalized governing body would have sufficiently broad representation from all constituent states and enough of their representative ruling coalitions, alongside legislative superiority in the areas of foreign policy and defense, and as such the federal state would not be making decisions "as France" or "as Germany," although it is true that in reality it would something more like a "as French-German coalition with minority partners chosen from random smaller European states currently ruled by parties with sufficient ideological similarity to the elected federal government."
      I'm pretty sure if Texas, California, and New York states were all separate governments making their own foreign policy and defense decisions, they'd be making some *pretty fucking stupid decisions,* especially compared to the USA (which also, we mustn't forget, proves that any federal country can make catastrophically inept and utterly moronic decisions pretty much back to back to back for literal centuries and get away with it pretty much without negative consequence as long as they have a *big fucking armed force* with hegemonic power over it's competitors and allies both). A unified federal European state would have a, let's be blunt, non-trivial hegemonic economic and military potential, especially compared to France or Germany as single states.
      Also worth remembering that functionally nobody with any semblance of respect or influence correctly and accurately predicted the Russian invasion of Ukraine, so claiming they were "strategically misguided" in their Russia policy is pretty silly, bluntly. The Russian possibility of invasion of Ukraine was considered to be *catastrophically stupid* to the point of being infeasible, and that was before the invasion when we still Russia's armed forces were moderately competent. Not only have they proven themselves to be grossly underpowered compared to previous estimations, but Putin has also personally demonstrated that *he's a fucking idiot, and arrogant to the point of self-destruction.* Of course, you aren't wrong that France's struggle to maintain it's colonial sphere of influence is both misguided and morally bankrupt to the point of total unjustifiability, and the root of the problem(s) are the self-interested myopia of both powers. The solution, however, isn't political balkanization and checks designed specifically to be used by reactionaries and conservatives in the pursuit of maintaining reactionary and conservative state-policy at the expense of a federal, continental policy platform promulgated in accordance with a continent-wide electoral mandate under federalized, proportional principles.

  • @japler8242
    @japler8242 Před 4 měsíci

    this is a really nice video! Thanks for the effort!

  • @michaelpilos
    @michaelpilos Před 5 měsíci +4

    Brilliant & Objective Analysis 👌🏼

  • @nironnaganathar
    @nironnaganathar Před 5 měsíci +122

    I think a great comparison can be made with the states of the Indian Union. Though most are majority Hindu now, their customs, language and culture do vary considerably. The individual states as independent countries would hardly be considered important on a global state. But India, as the Indian Union, does feature heavily in the global stage. The citizens of smaller EU countries need to ask themselves the question, of how irrelevant their countries will become on the global stage without a unified European State acting as a super-power on its own.
    The two choices are independence but irrelevance OR
    Closer integration into a federal state with the rights and opportunities presented by being a citizen of a superpower, albeit with some loss of independence for individual states.
    As for the baltic states fearful of western European miscalculations on Russian advances, it must be noted the response from Brussels would be far more robust if the Baltic countries sovereignty was directly in its interest as part of greater European superstate (defending themselves) vs the sovereignty of an allied partner (defending others).

    • @mikolajtrzeciecki1188
      @mikolajtrzeciecki1188 Před 5 měsíci +1

      The "smaller" european countries will be made irrelevant in the EU also. Their interests will be sold out to the highest bidder, their territories will be just a buffer to bargain with outside powers. There is no solidarity within Europe, there are only interests of states, and we have just given even more strength to the strongest ones.

    • @crusader2112
      @crusader2112 Před 5 měsíci +6

      As an American, I agree that Europe must come together, but I believe there still must be cultural autonomy, but I believe in one foreign policy and military for Europe. For my country America, I believe in something similar. A synthesis of autonomous states with Freedom of Association and One Foreign Policy and Federal Military.

    • @poglover5550
      @poglover5550 Před 5 měsíci

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      @poglover5550 Před 5 měsíci

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    • @kamilszadkowski8864
      @kamilszadkowski8864 Před 5 měsíci +16

      If my country is going to lose independence to a European State then it will become irrelevant either way. So it it is not a choice between independence or irrelevance. But between being independent and irrelevant (and the level of this irrelevance is very much debatable depending on the country) or losing independence and relevance as long as you are not German or French.
      Also, the creation of the European Federation doesn't guarantee that all its citizens will be treated fairly and equally. I am not risking becoming a second-class citizen in a bureaucratic nightmare run by people who will look down on me because I wasn't born in Western Europe.

  • @VusCZ
    @VusCZ Před 5 měsíci +1

    Very good video and summary!

  • @alexsokhin1814
    @alexsokhin1814 Před 5 měsíci +62

    Incredible work, thank you for this big vid GTBT, for me personally it's quite interesting and intriguing topic

  • @joeyjojojrshabadoo7462
    @joeyjojojrshabadoo7462 Před 5 měsíci +8

    A Federal Europe would have only worked in the early 90s when the EU was still only Western Europe. The eastern Bloc has too much cross cultural differences and honestly find the concept suspiciously similar to communism.

    • @jasonhaven7170
      @jasonhaven7170 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Then Eastern Europe should be kicked out. Poland and Hungary have already caused enough problems.

    • @wzburzonykisiel
      @wzburzonykisiel Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​@@jasonhaven7170well. They won't. They keep each other safe and the EU can't do much about it without betraying its own values.

    • @najak4773
      @najak4773 Před 4 měsíci

      lol if you totally leave eastern europe to its own its gonna become part of russia and then you gonna have to deal with bigger russia not eastern europe :D welcome to real world where there are no easy and perfect decisions @@jasonhaven7170

    • @michinmr3104
      @michinmr3104 Před měsícem

      ​​@@wzburzonykisieleu can do alot. Specially now because noone want to ruin themself as bad as the british.

  • @cherryraspberry
    @cherryraspberry Před 5 měsíci +122

    The only way to have a properly functioning federal system is to renounce the idea of a two-speed Europe and come to terms with the potential prospect of Germany and France losing their leading role on the continent to Eastern Europe and countries such as Poland, Romania, etc. This will never happen, however, because Eastern Europe playing the role of a pariah of the West and Russia is the norm for Western politicians and this will not change. The form of federalization of Europe presented by Germany and France is only to tighten their influence on the continent and centralize the European economy in Berlin and Paris, naturally excluding smaller countries. Talking about equality and unity in Europe in this state of affairs is nothing more than a lie and in the end it will end with the collapse of the idea of ​​European integration and increasing divisions.

    • @2MinuteHockey
      @2MinuteHockey Před 5 měsíci +8

      WWII was a further Germanization effort of Europe's breadbasket
      You have stated the truth here

    • @FOLIPE
      @FOLIPE Před 5 měsíci +23

      Why would France and Germany with a combined GDP of 7 trillion usd and 150 million people renounce to leading the EU? Why would small and poor eastern europe lead anything, if west of the Oder River you have 2/3rds-ish of the EU population?

    • @covfefe1787
      @covfefe1787 Před 5 měsíci +7

      @@FOLIPE Russia should join in and Balance the whole thing out :) ironically the EU needs Russia if it is to survive and compete against China and the U.S Siberia will allow the EU to stop being neocolonialist and loot resources from Africa and turn to exploiting Siberia which would on EU soil subject to EU laws and regulations.

    • @complexaltruist
      @complexaltruist Před 5 měsíci +19

      ​@@FOLIPEwhy would a federal europe happen without giving the east more power?

    • @cherryraspberry
      @cherryraspberry Před 5 měsíci +29

      @FOLIPE Like I said they won't. However, it is somewhat foolish. Germany and France want to compete with US and China's economy and They cannot do it o their own. When they talk about catching up to the rest, they talk about the EU catching up, not them catching up.
      They need the whole Europe, to be able to compete, which means they need "small nad poor Eastern Europe". They need their manpower, their potential and economy to unify Europe's economy. That's the only way to compete with the rest.
      However, Eastern Europe won't accept these terms because they know that France and Germany needs them and they know that they supposed to be second class for them. They know their potential and that over time, they can have a strong voice on the continent. For example, Poland as a country is not "small and poor" anymore. Warsaw, in a level of development resembles Western capitals. Their GDP still grows rapidly and they have the potential to have a bigger influence on the continent. And they know it. That's why, if Germany and France want Federal Europe, a unified and functioning federal Europe, they would have to agree with Eastern Europe's national interests and let them strengthen themselves in order to call their offer favorable for these nations.

  • @NessieAndrew
    @NessieAndrew Před 5 měsíci +2

    Beautifully done.

  • @TheSilver2001
    @TheSilver2001 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Great video, as usual

  • @a.balazs4413
    @a.balazs4413 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Didn’t even realise that I was watching 51mins, very well made!

  • @MajinOthinus
    @MajinOthinus Před 5 měsíci +8

    Fundamentally, you either HAVE a hegemon, or you ARE a hegemon. Divided, the individual EU states have a hegemon (most of the time the US, sometimes France or Germany), united the EU would BE the hegemon.
    You either wield the knife or lie on the stone and I would much rather be the one that wields the knife, than to be butchered on the stone.

    • @wzburzonykisiel
      @wzburzonykisiel Před 5 měsíci +2

      Nope.
      Do you really think Germany and France would give up their hegemony? It would upgrade their hegemony even more.

    • @MajinOthinus
      @MajinOthinus Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@wzburzonykisiel How?

    • @mesa9724
      @mesa9724 Před 5 měsíci

      @@MajinOthinus Why do you think the French or German would be better overlords than the Americans. The Americans will always control the seas.

    • @kingdedede1066
      @kingdedede1066 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Such exploitation is not best defeated by a super state

    • @NobodyAnywhere-xi9dz
      @NobodyAnywhere-xi9dz Před 23 dny

      @@wzburzonykisiel We would absolutely give up power towards pretty much any guy from every country in the EU. In fact, once this federation would be achieved Germany fro example would go back to sleep, and just do business and only minimal engagement in politics.
      It is also your union. It is your power that you can shape and form. However, you have to be European if you want that position. You have to be there for all europeans.
      You Eastern Europeans hide in your country and especially with your population difference that makes you invisible.
      You want this power? You want to be most on top of the world? Do it like Kallas.
      Give press conferences in other countries, talk to the large population of Western Europe. Don't be afraid to create visibility by mingling into other countries affairs. Your name sounds polish to me: You think it would be wrong to go to Germany, Italy, Slovenia, Spain to talk to local electorate and mingle in other countries politics. NO. You are allowed to do that, and if you present solutions, you can shape the union and lead the union, BUT, your strict nationalism prevents that!

  • @jaguarmemez
    @jaguarmemez Před 5 měsíci

    Great video ngl keep it up bro 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

  • @craybro
    @craybro Před 5 měsíci

    Great work!

  • @javiervll8077
    @javiervll8077 Před 5 měsíci +180

    I think that realistically it would be much more convenient if, within the European Union 🇪🇺, the four main economies (Germany 🇩🇪, France 🇫🇷, Italy 🇮🇹 and Spain 🇪🇸) had greater cooperation and coordination with each other on key issues such as security, defense, trade or new technologies. This way Europe could compete in better conditions against other world powers such as the United States 🇺🇸, China 🇨🇳 or India 🇮🇳.

    • @templecreations2351
      @templecreations2351 Před 5 měsíci +54

      oh, so a non-democratic eu then? just the most powerful have a voice? no thank you. democratic federation, yes. this youre saying? no.

    • @Schwarzie10
      @Schwarzie10 Před 5 měsíci +7

      They need to do something about the educated leaving their Italian and Spanish home countries and taking all that intellectual capital with them.

    • @georgedevries3992
      @georgedevries3992 Před 5 měsíci

      @@templecreations2351 Fck a federation. An Imperium and an Emperor who will treat all countries as if they were his own children.

    • @97Jaska
      @97Jaska Před 5 měsíci

      I cant see why nordic countries would ever join that. Nordics are way too storng to be pushed around by Italy and Spain.

    • @joaquincimas1707
      @joaquincimas1707 Před 5 měsíci +17

      ​@@Schwarzie10 I cant talk about Italy. But Spain is starting to change that, specially in IT, many graduates find jobs in spanish or international companies but living in Spain.
      We have a brain drain problem? Yes.
      Specially in the top (CEO's, great scientist, etc...) But last 5 years we have improve and in fact Spain is slowly starting to attract international talent more and more.

  • @soul741xD
    @soul741xD Před 5 měsíci +7

    They are talking about splitting Belgium which is already a tiny state.
    Europe would end up balkonized in like 5 years.

    • @joeyjojojrshabadoo7462
      @joeyjojojrshabadoo7462 Před 5 měsíci +6

      In a way no, breaking up the existing European multi ethnic nation states in smaller and smaller, weaker easily controlled countries suits the Eureaucrats divide and conquer goals. Cultural nationalism leads to more internation economical dependence. A United Belgium with its own stands in the way of a stronger Brussels.

  • @Maas_Grande
    @Maas_Grande Před 5 měsíci

    Thanks for the content.

  • @robertginsburg8113
    @robertginsburg8113 Před 5 měsíci

    Excellent video!

  • @docopoper
    @docopoper Před 5 měsíci +12

    As someone in Ireland who loves the EU I can't help but also be suspicious of federalisation. Our voting power got weakened a lot in the Lisbon treaty, and I don't really trust the Germans and French to not keep centralising power once we have lost our veto to the point where what we lose control of our own country. Also I think Ireland's democratic system is structured better than a country like France's. I would want the EU Parliament to be a much bigger part of this and for France and Germany's egos to get out of the way. Also there are a lot of far right parties in the EU that are a hair away from taking power, and I'm apprehensive about whatever that is going to mean for these countries and would therefore mean for Ireland in a tighter union.
    I appreciate a lot of the EU's policies and honestly there are many times I've preferred them over our own governmental decisions. But I get the sense that what I would need to be reassured to agree to join a federation is currently beyond what France and Germany would be willing to concede.

    • @fernet8394
      @fernet8394 Před 3 měsíci

      How do you know what France and Germany are not willing to concede?

    • @docopoper
      @docopoper Před 3 měsíci

      @@fernet8394 Maybe they'll surprise me. Legitimately if the offer is good enough and I have to vote in a referendum I'll go for it. I just want very steadfast assurances that over time the federalised EU won't be restructured so that smaller countries have less and less say and relevance.

    • @ggoddkkiller1342
      @ggoddkkiller1342 Před 3 měsíci

      @@fernet8394 Sure, what about France almost declaring war on UK for fishing rights then not long after acting like Ukrainian grain don't affect Polish farmers at all?? After a massive crisis they finally took measures and tried to make both sides happy instead of blindly supporting Ukraine. But when their own people loose money they get mad instantly. If you want to become a subject of Franco-Germans be my guess but don't expect others to act so foolishly..

    • @fernet8394
      @fernet8394 Před 3 měsíci

      @@ggoddkkiller1342
      I did not utter any expectations

  • @jezusbloodie
    @jezusbloodie Před 5 měsíci +40

    It took me 20 minutes into the videi to realise we've been blessed with an HOUR long video essay. And with so many exciting citation I didnt know about yet. That monograph of Post War Western Europe looks delightful especially.
    I thought it curious that the 22 november vote in the European Parliament hasn't been covered or touched upon yet on the geopolitics side of youtube. If you don't later in the video, it's worth mentioning, I think, that much of the proposal stems from the European Citizens' Initiative, a mechanism aimed at increasing direct democracy by enabling "EU citizens to participate directly in the development of EU policies"

  • @misiekkania
    @misiekkania Před 5 měsíci

    Very good summary !!!

  • @chin9888
    @chin9888 Před 5 měsíci

    Thank you, this was informativ

  • @kevhynaleks2631
    @kevhynaleks2631 Před 5 měsíci +7

    Hungary definately will be never part of any kind of USSR like imperial adventure - it was enough only once. And of course it is doomed from the first moment. EU is only an economic coorporation, but so different culturally - never a french or german or polish will gave up it's own culture for some non-existing european pseudo- "cullture" . And creating another Rome is not a wise idea, because Imperiums are restricted in time by nature. But nation states can survive always.

    • @Sara3346
      @Sara3346 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Structure doesn't resembe USSR much at all, nor like rome. Nationalism is a plauge though. Independant states , integrated states are both fine though. Nation states have only existed for the last few centuries and are likely a short lived wreched historical anomoly.

    • @kevhynaleks2631
      @kevhynaleks2631 Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@Sara3346 You cannot be independent under a federal umbrella. The examples are wrong, because both Switzerland or Germany have a common swiss or german cultural and national identity. EU dont have. EU even nowadays trying to resemble a centralized authoritarian structure, which totally careless about the souvereign interests of the nations, especially on the perifery. Meanwhile still the present EU have balances (unanomity law for example), to trying to compensate smaller states. Present EU I wouldn't call USSR, but this imagined futuristic federal imperial EU very easily. Even a cohesive ideology would not be missing, and this would also be closely related to Marxism, just as neoliberalism (nothing to do with the real Millian liberalism) is related to communism...
      And come on: the European seed is the Westfalian idea of nation states! Calling that "historical anomaly" is something what I read on my childhood schoolbooks, when marxists explained the history on the communist Hungary..😀

    • @jasonhaven7170
      @jasonhaven7170 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Fortunately the EU will kick Hungary out eventually.

    • @kevhynaleks2631
      @kevhynaleks2631 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@jasonhaven7170 Just in your pink dreams, dear bolshevik. Hungary will saving the EU from this wrong steps towards federalism. And if Hungary not be able to save them, doesn't matter, because the EU in this form stop to exist. For federalism they need to create a totally new agreement with each members, and all the members will be free will to decide, they want to jump into the dark or not. In this case 1000%, not Hungary will be the only one, who will reject.
      But as I see the movements, EU citizens very divided in this question. Even the liberal conservative parties (European Peoples Party) don't want to hear about federalist Europe! But you guys on the left, need to learn some basic democracy and tolerancy - to not want to kick out immediately everybody, who have different opinion than yours. And learn some basic, how the EU working, and no such mechanism to kick out anybody.

  • @zdzislawmeglicki2262
    @zdzislawmeglicki2262 Před 5 měsíci +57

    I don't think most Europeans want a federated pan-European state. Why doesn't anybody ask them?

    • @filipe5722
      @filipe5722 Před 5 měsíci +14

      I do agree that Europeans should be consulted, but a no from some nations should not put a stop to a closer union for the rest: it should led to the creation of multiple tiers where those nations remain behind.

    • @thisiscrazy4122
      @thisiscrazy4122 Před 5 měsíci +11

      More like a Confederacy, like Germany is a federation, acts like a single nation, but a lot of power is still reserved at each state / canton level

    • @Pedant_Patrol
      @Pedant_Patrol Před 5 měsíci

      They might be waiting to ask when native Europeans are the minoroty and have been largely replaced by migrants.

    • @nicoruppert4207
      @nicoruppert4207 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@alexbolide4009 O don't think the US has a lot to gain from a sovereign Europe. The US was quite supportive of Brexit of I recall correctly.

    • @mharley3791
      @mharley3791 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@nicoruppert4207the US was not. Obama explicitly campaigned for remain, and it Has been US policy that European integration is good as it frees up US resources. The US is not scared of a United Europe

  • @rms7999
    @rms7999 Před 5 měsíci

    Great job.

  • @digitaldutchboy2822
    @digitaldutchboy2822 Před 5 měsíci

    Thank you 🙏🏻

  • @DamienZachariah
    @DamienZachariah Před 5 měsíci +17

    The biggest political problem in Europe is a question: where does the EU end and sovereignity begin? Everything depends on answering this! I think that this should be publicly discussed and various ideas put forward in the public arena. It's far past time for this as all too soon other things will need to be done. This could well include a European Army and probably Navy and Airforce. This goes well into
    to sovereign matters. There could be others like perhaps horizontal fiscal equalization. Also quite possibly foreign policy issues.It's worth pointing out the history of many of these countries is one of war going back more than a thousand years. It's got some good points such as standardised trade rules and allows for big dollar projects like the Baltic states railroad and probably to Finland . Various political models and how this would be done must be discussed. there is a real fear of countries being reduced to a province akin to say Wyoming in the USA no disrespect meant. There is also the possibility of countries having seriously dissenting views on say a war with Russia. such a situation requires a definite command structure vis a vis the EU and the individual states. Who is going to have that authority? There are messier questions like should nuclear weapons be made and its command structure. I am not trying to tell anyone what to do ,I just ask that people start to think about all this, whether it's at work, home, in their respective leglistures and at the EU Level. The decisions made today may impact the next few hundred years.

    • @jiriwichern
      @jiriwichern Před 4 měsíci +2

      You imply being part of a larger federation like the EU means you inherently lose sovereignty on a national level. Sovereignty is not a zero-sum game. It's also not intrinsic to a nation. Sovereignty is what's awarded to you by your neighboring nations through either your diplomatic efforts or through your show of force. Just declaring to be sovereign on your own is only granting you 'your' sovereignty until someone else just casually decides to waltz in. Ask 19th century Japan about that.
      For example if you're a small country, isolated and on your own, you can't expect to be able to put any political weight into any scale when played by any of the major powers (US, China, and a host others, depending on your size). You can scream what you want, try to get the U.N. to listen to you all you want. In the end all your 'sovereignty' will be for naught. In practice, you won't have any of it. Ask Georgia and the Chechens, ask many an African nation, ask pretty much any member of the Warsaw pact when that pact existed. And if the E.U. may ever break, ask any European nation, including the big ones. Of the two that may make a dent wholly on their own, one of them is currently locked in an existential crisis of 'warrific' proportions (Ukrain) and the other has too messy politics and other instabilities it will currently not be able to fend for its own (Turkye). The other 'great' European nations are too weak to even consider. Yes, that includes 'Great' Britain (political mess and historical and current class squabbles splitting the population), France (integration problems from a still looming colonial past), Germany (the cultural after-effects of WW2) and if I'd add any other nation to that list, Poland is the first one that comes to mind, but Poland has the problem it's Poland. The land consists of a completely indefensible plain that can be easily invaded from their coast, the east and the west.
      If the Russ^h^h^h^hMuscovites would enter one of the E.U. states and they would not be united at all (either through the E.U. or through NATO), they will have easy pickings. Not only for the Baltics, Also Finland won't hold, neither will Poland (despite their efforts)... They'll have free reign up to the harbor of Rotterdam and then have the option to go south if they want so.
      So don't talk about insular sovereignty unless you are committed to defend that sovereignty with your blood and bones. For anyone that's willing to corporate, you can share your sovereignty with each other through the setup of well thought out governmental structures, which I expect the E.U. institutions to provide for its citizens. And the E.U. can expect in return I will participate (vote) in them accordingly. That way I know my sovereignty is secure.

    • @norielgames4765
      @norielgames4765 Před 4 měsíci

      Economic Union is desirable and should stay.
      Military cooperation and protection is also desirable.
      EU enforcing regulations such as on quality of food, and manufactured products being sold in the EU territory is also good.
      The EU should never meddle in local culture, such as by enforcing an official language or banning another language. No one state within the federation should be favoured in language, economy, or political power.

    • @blackhole3298
      @blackhole3298 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@norielgames4765 That is why you should actively work towards your goals. We are at the beginning of something big, every decision we make now on how to federalize (or otherwise to disband) will kick off a tornado in the future. Right now the world atmosphere is so volatile, you can truly make history!

    • @norielgames4765
      @norielgames4765 Před 4 měsíci

      @@blackhole3298 thing is, decisions are almost always bad when you make them without knowing, so there should be a lot of discussion about this

    • @qefewfwdcwdc
      @qefewfwdcwdc Před 4 měsíci

      LOl you a muppet@@norielgames4765

  • @valdemarjuel7060
    @valdemarjuel7060 Před 5 měsíci +75

    Problem is, a federation of the kind that the EU leaders dream about is essentially impossible. It could happen in a couple of hundred years sure, or with conquest. But not with the multicultural, weak culture of the EU leaders. Which vision are they trying to sell? Being ruled from Brussels by un-elected commissars? No common religion or culture? They simply do not have a vision, nothing to sell other than better regulation. Most Europeans want to keep their identity, and independence in the matters that are not currently ruled by EU. The only reason federations (empires) work, is due to violence and cultural supremacy. Anything else is a pipe-dream.

    • @goldbullet50
      @goldbullet50 Před 5 měsíci +18

      Traditional empires generally allowed a wide degree of sovereignty to their subjects. usually revolving around paying a tribute and providing troops and allegiance.

    • @poremechen
      @poremechen Před 5 měsíci

      They are trying to make melting pot with mixing bunch of different people in Europe as we speak. You cant travel over the border unless you are paperless migrant lol

    • @covfefe1787
      @covfefe1787 Před 5 měsíci +15

      @@goldbullet50 yeah but they crashed rebellions by force and over time forced cultural assimilation or face annihilation how do you think China became 99% Han Chinese? China was never a ethno state and the Han homeland is only alongside the Yellow river and not much more.

    • @hyhhy
      @hyhhy Před 5 měsíci +11

      @@covfefe1787 "Han" is basically like "European" in the sense of ethnicity... Many Han subgroups speak mutually non-intelligible languages, about as similar with each other as the big European languages. Only about 2/3 of Han speak (some variety of) Mandarin as their first language. And Mandarin itself, with all its varieties, is more like a big language family in Europe like Slavic, Germanic, or Romance rather than a single European language.
      Whereas "Chinese" is like "European" in the sense of living in Europe.

    • @deviousdevil75
      @deviousdevil75 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@hyhhy g
      Good lord.
      That is a stretch…..”Han” is like “European”…
      Two “polar” opposite cultures. Literally.
      Throw in a dash of CCP/Communist/Soviet influence and ya’ got European.
      🫡😆

  • @NDP_DNB
    @NDP_DNB Před 5 měsíci

    Thank you

  • @LesRealLlama
    @LesRealLlama Před 5 měsíci +77

    The whole idea of a federal Europe has always been interesting to me, gonna have fun watching this.

    • @cinnamonstar808
      @cinnamonstar808 Před 5 měsíci +2

      its a logical idea for survival; but 🇺🇸 America failed at it and had to reroute a new ID of what success looks like.

    • @typicalsomeone5073
      @typicalsomeone5073 Před 5 měsíci +10

      Bringing people of different cultures side by side you need a brutal rule let's not pretend.

    • @mikemonard5418
      @mikemonard5418 Před 5 měsíci +1

      there is a lot of corruption in the smaller countries of the EU,most of the money not being used the right way.this brings delays in development

    • @burtonkephart6239
      @burtonkephart6239 Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@cinnamonstar808 how did America fail at it? They’ve always been one.

    • @wzburzonykisiel
      @wzburzonykisiel Před 5 měsíci

      @@mikemonard5418 There's lot of corruption in the EU in general. Not only on national level but in the EU parliament as well. It's called lobbying.

  • @pawelzybulskij3367
    @pawelzybulskij3367 Před 5 měsíci +80

    I think it is only possible through two-tier Europe. Let say 20 countries decided to federalize and form a single country European Federation which is going to be part of existing status-quo European Union with other 7 countries that decided not to federalize. Then non-EU countries can join status-quo European Union if all 8 members approve with existing procedure or join European Federation with approval of only European Federation basing on the established precedent when East Germany joined West Germany and thus future EU without any asking for unanimous vote from EU members.

    • @burtonkephart6239
      @burtonkephart6239 Před 5 měsíci +25

      In other words Western Europe becomes one state whilst Eastern Europe stays connected but not as single

    • @frankthetank5708
      @frankthetank5708 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Without Switzerland it won't be a Federal European Union and not possible therefore.

    • @castheeuwes1085
      @castheeuwes1085 Před 5 měsíci

      Canada has much more in common with the USA, than any 2 European neighbors. Why does nobody expect Canada to join the US? That will be same answer, against Euro federalist nonsense.

    • @jawelNeezeker
      @jawelNeezeker Před 5 měsíci +1

      Oh great, even more bureaucracy.

    • @luism5514
      @luism5514 Před 5 měsíci

      This is actually Macron’s multi tier Europe plan

  • @vonrogovski
    @vonrogovski Před 5 měsíci

    Excellent 💪

  • @adrianwhyatt1425
    @adrianwhyatt1425 Před 5 měsíci +4

    At 1.35 or so, the resolution of November 2023 to remove the national veto is much less likely to have passed if the UK and Gibraltar had still been in the European Union, at least unamended. Hence the happiness of most of the European political elite for the UK and Gibraltar to leave the European Union.
    What is required is to bring some form of well-structured referendum system into being, drawing on a full range of examples: Switzerland, Ireland and others.
    What is also required is that all this is brought back into line with the prediction of Oswald Spengler in 1918 in his "The Fall of the West", as quoted by Archimandrite Justin Popovich in his "the Orthodox Church and Ecumenism" of the return and restoration of the West to its previous, pre-1054 Great East-West Schism status of (True) (Orthodox) (Catholic) Christian Civilization.
    This means having an Emperor and a basic law and Constitution (which should be that of the restored Third Rome, Russia (shorn of its Asian territories, possibly) with the end of the Roman Papacy and one (True) (Orthodox) (and Holy Catholic and Apostolic) Patriarch for all of Europe, in accordance with the Orthodox prophecies, which, by definition never err, that the laws of the Roman Emperors Theodosius the Great and Justinian must be applied properly: no law is valid unless it complies with God's law, i.e. Canon law.
    The first principle of this law is that necessity knows no law. Hence King David distributed the show bread, 🍞🥖, only meant to be eaten by the priests, to his starving soldiers.
    This has to act as a filter.
    The EU and its predecessor communities as well as EFTA and the EEA, are, in fact, confederations, not federations, in terms of classical political science definitions, because their members have always had the right to secede.
    As was the Soviet Union, is Liechtenstein (with the 11 villages within it having that right), and has been Canada since 2000 with a ("Federal") Dominion of Canada Act defining how secession can occur.
    For the European Union to become a Federal State, as classically defined and without which the term is meaningless, it would have to abolish the right for its member states to secede.
    What is being proposed, at least for now, and in line with Article 50 of the 2009 Treaty of Lisbon, requiring member states to give two years notice of leaving and to leave in accordance with their own constitutional requirements, is actual a European Confederal state.

  • @deansch6089
    @deansch6089 Před 5 měsíci +94

    If rural europeans think they currently are ignored while faraway bureaucrats fawn over urban areas (and their densely populated voting blocks), imagine how forgotten you will be if the government is responsible for the entire continent.

    • @bigtuga4ever
      @bigtuga4ever Před 5 měsíci +12

      Finest of arguments

    • @default3740
      @default3740 Před 5 měsíci +15

      While it is sad that rural areas is forgotten, it is understandable why it is that way. Because most people live in urban areas that will also be prioritized by politicians.

    • @zericle1
      @zericle1 Před 5 měsíci +10

      I say that if you feel forgotten by your government, then move to a place where you...don't? Besides, feeling like your government isn't doing enough is a completely subjective thing to feel, like what do you mean by that?
      Do you mean forgotten as in "the buildings in my community are made of balsa wood, duct tape, and dreams. Godzilla came through here 5 minutes ago and I have 4 different waterborne diseases and 30 peasant children to feed after they come back from their 20 hour shift in the coal mines." ?
      Or do you mean forgotten as in "boohoo I lost my job, must be the government's fault and totally not because I harassed 5 female interns at my workplace and hurled racial slurs like cluster munitions." ?
      I think that if you choose to live in a rural place you have no right to complain about the government because you literally live in a place where there is little government. Do rural people really want the entire government to come to Joe's rustic cabin in the middle of the woods for a sleepover? No. Lots of people who choose to live in rural areas live there because they don't want government around. They just want their little farm and some peace and quiet away from everything. I think that if you choose to live that way then you have to come to terms with the fact that little Timmy won't be getting an Oxford education in Ruralsville: population 6.
      What I'm saying is: expect to be left alone, and expect to not get any help or opportunity when you live in a place with no people around. No people = You're on your own, good luck.
      If you don't like that burden, *psst* ᵐᵒᵛᵉ ᵗᵒ ᵃ ᶜᶦᵗʸ
      Apparently, that's where all the jobs are.

    • @doktorhabilitowanystanczyk
      @doktorhabilitowanystanczyk Před 5 měsíci +34

      ​​@@zericle1You're projecting hard there about harassing female coworkers. Got something to share buddy? And what if I don't wish to move? I feel just as patriotic for my small town as I do for my country. Additionally, what you're proposing is simply stupid. Rural areas produce food, if everyone moves away from the countryside into the city, then from where do you get food, genius?

    • @zericle1
      @zericle1 Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@doktorhabilitowanystanczyk Thanks for insinuating that I harass women, that was very nice and adult of you. I really love waking up to see that, that made my day!
      You seem to think that I hate rural people, that's not true at all. In fact, since you seem to think you know me so much and really want me to share something with you, so I'll let you in on a secret.
      I was on a farm at one point in my life. But I didn't like it, I hated it actually, and so I moved to the city a few years ago. Doing that helped me very much, I was able to get away from a lot of bad shit, able to go to college, and I was able to find job opportunities I wouldn't find back where I used to live. And that's why I'm a smart ass.
      You also think food is only grown in the countryside, also not true. The wonders of hydroponics, am I right?
      You gotta laugh a little, you're bumming everyone out. Can't read between the lines, hates attempts at comedy, negative about this and that...
      I know I may be a little crass, and sarcastic, and yeah some people don't like that, but you gotta be that way when people are seething, and angry, and serious all the time, when you live around liars, hypocrites, just general negativity, and all that bullshit.
      My mom taught me the importance of turning the other cheek, and being polite, so...
      I hope you have a nice day. and I'm sorry if you feel bad, that quite literally wasn't my intention, you know? I was just trying to make some people laugh and give some advice based on my own experiences and quirkiness, as you do time to time in the comments.
      I guess you can't please everyone. Ah well.

  • @vitalii-dan
    @vitalii-dan Před 5 měsíci +18

    This is the most informative and best researched video on this topic. Bravo

    • @arisplugis5197
      @arisplugis5197 Před 5 měsíci +4

      i disliked the video though. so not to feed CZcams algorithm with this federalist nonsense. there is no federation in the world where each of 27 states speak in different language. and for me as a citizen of a small EU nation, i do not want to be ruled by German and French.

    • @nosmokejazwinski6297
      @nosmokejazwinski6297 Před 5 měsíci +4

      ⁠@@arisplugis5197Well, India is a federation and it has 121 languages, tho only 22 are official

    • @arisplugis5197
      @arisplugis5197 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@nosmokejazwinski6297 OK. you forced me to put it in different way now.
      there is no federation in the world where each of 27 states are different ethnicity, history, tradition, religion and way of life. many things are common, but there are wast differences as well. in everything.

    • @nosmokejazwinski6297
      @nosmokejazwinski6297 Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@arisplugis5197 that still applies to India, tho. There are 4 major racial groups in India and at least 2 thousand ethnicities. India is much more religiously diverse than Europe. Cultures, traditions and history vary significantly from one place to another. That being said, I’m not mentioning this as a “pro EU argument” and claiming that India is a good example to follow, just saying that such federation indeed exists. I think instead of denying its existence, a better argument would be to say that India is the example why such federations are not a good thing which is debatable but at least it’s a rational argument.

  • @user-bc6ht7rl9h
    @user-bc6ht7rl9h Před 4 měsíci +2

    Only drawback for an European superstate is that a growing part of the population says 'no f-ing way'. And rightfully so, the EEG was sufficiënt enough.

  • @davidturnage3467
    @davidturnage3467 Před 5 měsíci +1

    One of the best documentaries on the origin of European Union.
    Only I'm having a hard time with understanding the accent. Constantly rewinding and listening again.

  • @FKAS8410
    @FKAS8410 Před 5 měsíci +3

    These videos are awesome man I always leave a like and comment to aid in duuuu alghoritm!!!

  • @user-cv8xf8bw4m
    @user-cv8xf8bw4m Před 4 měsíci +4

    United Europe is our future!🇪🇺🇺🇦

  • @ChairmanMeow1
    @ChairmanMeow1 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Great content as always

  • @UNSKIALzPSN
    @UNSKIALzPSN Před 5 měsíci +3

    Wasn't expecting to fly through all 50 minutes! Great documentary

  • @bloggalot4718
    @bloggalot4718 Před 5 měsíci +8

    Both France and Germany wanted a federal Europe, Maggie Thatcher said the U.K. did want to be part of the federation. The U.K. joined the Common Market, a trade area not a federation.

  • @theChaosKe
    @theChaosKe Před 5 měsíci +6

    As of now the only country that has experience as a federation is germany with its 16 states and even integrating east germany hasnt been that successful and left people unsatisfied.
    Most other countries have never been federalized and especially france seems extremely centered around paris, with comparably little protection of local cultures (for example france still hasnt signed the european charter for minority languages, even though france has such a diverse linguistic landscape).
    The idea is great in concept but i dont know wether france would really be able to work well in federation. There are also issues with wealth redistribution, in germany there are already richer states complaining about funding of weaker states. Imagine what this would be on a larger scale.

    • @Kaede-Sasaki
      @Kaede-Sasaki Před 4 měsíci

      @theChaosKe
      🇨🇭🇨🇦🇦🇺🇺🇸🇮🇳 : We assume you mean in the EU, and not just in Europe (switzerland), or the rest of the world (US, australia, canada, India, etc).

    • @theChaosKe
      @theChaosKe Před 4 měsíci +1

      Yes of course, just the EU (as the video is about the EU) @@Kaede-Sasaki

  • @charonboat6394
    @charonboat6394 Před 5 měsíci +8

    Shortly, we're facing new german anschluss of the entire Europe done by economic means.

    • @chrislambert9435
      @chrislambert9435 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Yes I agree, if you were in the UK, would you support the "handing over" of the control of the UK's National Interest to a Federal EU ?

  • @morphles
    @morphles Před 5 měsíci

    Ahem.... This is insane. . . ly good video!

  • @Rubico69-me1dl
    @Rubico69-me1dl Před 5 měsíci +7

    As expected from GTBT - another masterpiece, if we count in that it's already much enough for making it even longer.

  • @deansch6089
    @deansch6089 Před 5 měsíci +4

    The future or utopia? Well, we know it won't be the latter. If we're lucky it won't be the former either.

  • @Ea-pb2tu
    @Ea-pb2tu Před 5 měsíci +3

    There’s nothing I’d want more then a federalized Europe. Despite the fact that I’m deeply distrustful of the institution in Brussels.
    It bothers me that there’s (in the mainstream) little room for positions that aren’t anti federalization or pro EU. I.e there’s no room for the Pro federalization, anti EU of us.
    If I had to vote between them I’d still vote for a federal state under the EU, as once it’s done the institution can be changed from the inside.

    • @squirepraggerstope3591
      @squirepraggerstope3591 Před 5 měsíci +1

      I suspect that only a typical "EU" exercise in double standards, hypocrisy and the coercion of smaller member states will get you anywhere near the "EUSSR" which is what a federal superstate would be in practice, but mercifully we British have already escaped so it's not our problem. Though the obvious defence implications of such a state are its inevitably supplanting NATO's European pillar and so should also result in our full and immediate withdrawal from that too. Hopefully along with the other non-EU allied powers, especially the other two Anglosphere ones.

  • @geheimnis8187
    @geheimnis8187 Před 5 měsíci +7

    Answer: both!! volt💜

  • @Tobi-ln9xr
    @Tobi-ln9xr Před 5 měsíci +9

    9:33 "The UK held Napoleon back“
    At least we now know that GTBT is not a history channel…

    • @FOLIPE
      @FOLIPE Před 5 měsíci +1

      We also know where it's biases lie

    • @jimbodimbo981
      @jimbodimbo981 Před 5 měsíci +2

      So Waterloo and Trafalgar didn’t happen?

    • @Tobi-ln9xr
      @Tobi-ln9xr Před 5 měsíci +7

      @@jimbodimbo981
      In Waterloo did more Germans fight than Brits. The Prussian army of general Blücher had more soldiers than Wellingtons army. The Brits would’ve lost that battle without Prussia and the Prussian army.

    • @Redwitheran
      @Redwitheran Před 5 měsíci +9

      Probably an oversimplification, but the UK was the only major country always against Napoleon, Russia and the German states supported Napoleon in stages, so if the UK didn’t push them against Napoleon then he would’ve won. The UK did also fund large parts of the coalition but yes didn’t fight too much on land themselves, so the UK led the way everywhere else except blood.

    • @jamesg9468
      @jamesg9468 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Nothing said here by GTBT was incorrect. The UK fought Napoleon more than the Prussians, Austrians and Russians. Britain wiped out the combined French and Spanish navies with no other support, liberated the Iberian peninsula - again with no support, and obviously beat Napoleon at Waterloo, the most important battle, which the Prussians would have stood no chance. Your jet-black hatred of Britain is clouding you to the historic facts.

  • @ShEv441
    @ShEv441 Před 5 měsíci +46

    Germany and France should make desisions with IT, ESP and PL together cause these are biggest and most influential coutries. Also voice of smaller countries should be considered

    • @issith7340
      @issith7340 Před 5 měsíci +12

      If smaler countries’s voice is to be “ket listened “ only, the small countries leave ee, immediately. They have no other interest of remaining, than their safety. Not to leave their safety in the hands of Germany.

    • @covfefe1787
      @covfefe1787 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@Hrotiberhtaz Iceland and Norway are not interested in joing the EU Iceland because its too far away and its current economic model works it only seriously considered EU membership during the Icelandic financial crisis when Icelandic banks failed but after it switched to a tourist based economy Iceland grew faster than the Eurozone did. Norway doesn't want EU membership because it would have to give up its oil and gas profits and redistribute them to the member sates which it doesn't want to do.

    • @Sir_Cole
      @Sir_Cole Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@HrotiberhtazBro These „State Blocks“ exist already

    • @nettcologne9186
      @nettcologne9186 Před 5 měsíci +9

      The Netherlands is more important than Poland, sorry.

    • @patrickb1811
      @patrickb1811 Před 5 měsíci +10

      ​@@nettcologne9186 Not really, it's too small and unlike Poland has no influence on its neighbors.

  • @alejopelaezdavis0301
    @alejopelaezdavis0301 Před 5 měsíci

    Awesome, as always. Love your videos. Best out there

  • @Mario-kf3ej
    @Mario-kf3ej Před 5 měsíci +5

    or Nightmare ...

  • @narcispana9361
    @narcispana9361 Před 5 měsíci +9

    50 min of the 20's report!!!! Love it!

  • @sogerc1
    @sogerc1 Před 5 měsíci +7

    One thing's for sure, if this FES would be created tomorrow, Putin would have a stroke.

    • @wzburzonykisiel
      @wzburzonykisiel Před 5 měsíci +2

      Everyone to the east from Germany - including EU member states - would have a stroke, as this idea is rather unpopular there.

    • @sogerc1
      @sogerc1 Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@wzburzonykisiel I am from the East of Germany, so obviously not everyone.

    • @wzburzonykisiel
      @wzburzonykisiel Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@sogerc1 I mean countries, not individuals.

    • @sogerc1
      @sogerc1 Před 5 měsíci

      @@wzburzonykisiel Oh, okay then.
      Although if a referendum were held I think it would be a good pitch in my country to get rid of the stale politics. But the real question is, who would pitch it?

    • @josipag2185
      @josipag2185 Před 5 měsíci

      😂😂😂😂

  • @Kaede-Sasaki
    @Kaede-Sasaki Před 4 měsíci +1

    Just a thought, but wouldn't it be easier to make a new federal EU and only invite countries that wish to join that federation and leave the old alliance-monetary union EU? Instead of complicated and numerous treaties, etc, there can be a constitution drafted by founders and amendable by an easier process (no veto, maybe ⅔ vote in ⅔ of member-states, or maybe ⅘ vote of all federal EU citizens)? Those that didn't want the new federal EU could stay in the old one, albeit smaller version after the countries in favour of federation left.

  • @Jonas_M_M
    @Jonas_M_M Před 5 měsíci +6

    Dystopia.

  • @mariuszmondal6184
    @mariuszmondal6184 Před 5 měsíci +8

    Komentarz dla zasięgu, kontent mega, popracuj nad akcentem i niech rośnie

    • @piszczerss
      @piszczerss Před 4 měsíci +1

      Akcent to nie błąd. Nie ma kompletnie żadnego powodu by pracować nad akcentem, a jeśli pracować to nad jakim, amerykańskim, brytyjskim, irlandzkim, szkockim czy australijskim?

  • @michlo3393
    @michlo3393 Před 5 měsíci +9

    Europeans: "This is a complicated issue and we have to figure out how to make this work, for centuries a unified Europe has been an unattainable drea -"
    *American walks into the room
    Europeans: "Ha, this is Utopia! life is perfect, look at how fast our trains are! and hey, someone break my arm so I can get it fixed instantly and for free!"
    *American leaves
    Europeans: "Okay, seriously, how do we finally make this work?"
    This is basically how I envision this issue being discussed.

    • @chrislambert9435
      @chrislambert9435 Před 5 měsíci +1

      So, if you were in the UK, would you support the "handing over" of the control of the UK's National Interest to a Federal EU ?

  • @theodoroseidler7072
    @theodoroseidler7072 Před 5 měsíci

    Excellent!

    • @chrislambert9435
      @chrislambert9435 Před 5 měsíci

      So, if you were in the UK, would you support the "handing over" of the control of the UK's National Interest to a Federal EU ?

    • @theodoroseidler7072
      @theodoroseidler7072 Před 5 měsíci

      Each individual country in Europe will have to face that dilema. For my part, yes. The UK of today is a pale shadow of its former glory with no prospect whatsoever of achieving anything beyond what it currently is. A Federal EU must be frustratiing in so many levels, but when it comes to facing Russia, China and being a partner to the US I see no other way. That is, the UK can also be the 51st state of the US de facto as well. ... @@chrislambert9435

  • @Edo9River
    @Edo9River Před 4 měsíci

    You do good work😅😊. From japan

  • @everypitchcounts4875
    @everypitchcounts4875 Před 5 měsíci +7

    EU will struggle deciding whether to fund a military or social programs.

    • @Mmjk_12
      @Mmjk_12 Před 5 měsíci +5

      countries in the EU when combined have more soldiers right now than the US does.

    • @mesa9724
      @mesa9724 Před 5 měsíci

      @@Mmjk_12 Soldiers are irrelevant.

  • @Schnurception
    @Schnurception Před 5 měsíci +3

    27:26 Volt.

  • @TBornes
    @TBornes Před 5 měsíci +1

    Wow he just jumped over so menny empiers and went directly to Napolion😅

  • @NotSkander
    @NotSkander Před 5 měsíci

    i think some consolidation would help people more than hurt as then investing in projects within every country in europe would have the same peace of mind as trying something in the large 'safe' option countries. assuming a lot

  • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
    @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Před 5 měsíci +11

    A distopia.

  • @christianremboldt1557
    @christianremboldt1557 Před 5 měsíci +10

    After watching this I am somehow happy that the UK left the Union.
    They would've only be another obstacle in reforming the EU

  • @Lukas-jj6gz
    @Lukas-jj6gz Před 5 měsíci

    Great Video thanks for this summary

  • @nickiseb8910
    @nickiseb8910 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Cooperation where it is needed yes, but the countries are to diverse to make a Union. It's only trouble.

  • @Gnoccy
    @Gnoccy Před 5 měsíci +9

    Not the video I expected, given the title. I was hoping for more of an outlook into the future, but most of the video was a history lesson.

    • @KonglomeratYT
      @KonglomeratYT Před 4 měsíci

      They already made a video like that. It's called "United States of Europe"

  • @embreis2257
    @embreis2257 Před 5 měsíci +3

    in June 2024, elections to the European parliament will most likely shift the majority to right-wing parties and a tendency to more nationalistic governments can be expected too. any enlargement of the EU will require it to first change its decision making process. it also adds more diversity and strain to the system. the idea of a European 'Federal State' gets ever more elusive the more members join the union.
    therefore, the French president already vented the idea of a *multi-speed Europe.* those who favour their national state could remain on the outer skirts of the union while those who wish for an 'ever closer union' are allowed to proceed too. however, the treaties don't allow for this yet and need to get amended or changed. nobody knows how this will end and when? good luck! the world is watching.

    • @nelyrions1838
      @nelyrions1838 Před 5 měsíci +2

      The problem with such a system has proven itself by brexit already. EU has no problems punishing and making it as difficult and painful as possible to leave the union. The thing with power consolidation is that it becomes a black hole. It becomes voracious and wants more. It will look good on paper.. but that black hole will slowly start to tear and bring everything in its orbit closer. Those in the center would make up policies that only favours those in the center, at the expense for those at the rim, effectively it becomes a carrot and whip scenario. Do as we say and join the fold, or you will find yourself recieving the whip more. And if you dare to leave, well.. just look at what we did with GB.. imagine what we will do to you.

    • @jasonhaven7170
      @jasonhaven7170 Před 5 měsíci

      Good. Eastern European countries like Poland and Hungary need to learn.@@nelyrions1838

  • @Real_MrDev
    @Real_MrDev Před 5 měsíci

    To answer the question: "It isn't impossibile but it still is unluckily"

  • @Mark-xh8md
    @Mark-xh8md Před 4 měsíci +2

    Neither. Dystopia. France and Germany have tried to conquer Europe several times. Let's not let them, hm?

  • @Odin-Elohim
    @Odin-Elohim Před 5 měsíci +5

    A distopia imo

  • @tlmoller
    @tlmoller Před 5 měsíci +35

    I travel a lot globally. It part of my profession for many years. It have changed me and made new feel that Europe is my home. Not just the country in Europe I live it, but all of Eurpoe.
    Europe is quite diverse, but does have some critical common and important similarities.
    So I will welcome a united Europe. Sadly it will likely not happen in my lifetime though.

  • @niklassvensson860
    @niklassvensson860 Před 4 měsíci

    Scary thought.

  • @niklasnorberg5071
    @niklasnorberg5071 Před 5 měsíci +2

    What a nightmare!😢

  • @jamesg9468
    @jamesg9468 Před 5 měsíci +8

    When you look at the top 20 universities in the world, only 6 are in Europe. And all of them are in England. Which is not even in the EU. You can see why the EU is really desperate to look relevant.

    • @wzburzonykisiel
      @wzburzonykisiel Před 5 měsíci +2

      It's more about France and Germany being desperate. Most countries of the EU mind their business.

    • @josipag2185
      @josipag2185 Před 5 měsíci +4

      Well, real jobs and universities are more and more disconnected.

  • @ironczar8975
    @ironczar8975 Před 5 měsíci +12

    No fuck that pseudo-Soviet joke of a Supernation. We need a EU with strong national governments and sovereignty

    • @TheDarkTemplar3791
      @TheDarkTemplar3791 Před 2 měsíci +4

      and what are exactly the advantages of having multiple governments who can't agree on key policies together?

    • @ironczar8975
      @ironczar8975 Před 2 měsíci

      @@TheDarkTemplar3791 What is the advantage of one centralized government who can't comprehend that the conditions in Bulgaria are not the same as in the Netherlands? The EU should stay a trading union with a strong focus on European independence in things like energy, food, manifacturing and raw materials. We don't need a unified European army, that's what Nato is for and we can clearly see that the unelected bureaucrats in Brussels have no clue how to govern a whole continent

  • @headoverheels88
    @headoverheels88 Před 5 měsíci

    Look at Olaf Scholz with hair at 29:00 😂

  • @gavinfoley103
    @gavinfoley103 Před 5 měsíci +8

    Want software: USA
    Want hardware: China
    Want regulation: EU

  • @harrybarrow6222
    @harrybarrow6222 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I am sitting here in Brexit Britain under a right-wing Conservative government.
    To me, belonging to a European federation sounds like heaven.

    • @wzburzonykisiel
      @wzburzonykisiel Před 5 měsíci +1

      Then why wouldn't you just move?

    • @najak4773
      @najak4773 Před 4 měsíci +2

      right wing conservative goverment that cant take care of migrant issues hahaha good joke if thats right wing i am far-far-far-far-right i guess

    • @wzburzonykisiel
      @wzburzonykisiel Před 4 měsíci

      @@najak4773 Well. Anything that is to the right from the rulling party is "far right". I even saw evident centrists being called "far right".
      So "far right" actualy means "not leftist enough".

    • @najak4773
      @najak4773 Před 4 měsíci

      yeah the whole right and left thing is stupid because politics and our planet is much more complicated to simply use 2 words to describe political views @@wzburzonykisiel

    • @wzburzonykisiel
      @wzburzonykisiel Před 4 měsíci

      @@najak4773 actually two words may be enough for some general description of certain views. "laissez faire", "nordic model" or "national socialism" speak for themselves.

  • @Quickshot0
    @Quickshot0 Před 5 měsíci +32

    I'm not sure I fully agree with this analysis. It seems a little to focused on great man theory of development. And while certain characters of course have more influence in things, it is important to remember that other nations could still be pretty significant and for a long time had a veto on many a decision. Not to mention at times proposals actually came from the smaller countries because they deemed in to be a favorable development for themselves, the larger whole or both.
    For instance this analysis proposes nothing much happened between the vote system change and now. But this isn't actually the case. If one looks internally then one would find that over this period the EU slowly started to acquire increasing defense spending powers. First in just cooperative arrangements, then in funding dual technology development and with Ukraine even some direct military funding support for Ukraine.
    Another element of interest here is how France and Germany continued some further integration of military industry between each other. For instance exemplified in the merger of the German and French tank manufacturers in to one. Other countries also have had some level of consolidation happen, so it isn't even just a matter of these countries alone.
    As such I'm some what dubious of the exact claimed reason and motivations for the EU development as it is. It seems far more likely to think that many parties have been busy unifying bits and pieces of Europe over time, simply because they were running less effectively and efficiently at a national level. Like for instance the expenses of developing next generation weapons. This seems to fit much better then a flawed great man argument in the matter. A position that is also somewhat disrespectful to other states influence in the union, as can also clearly be seen in their at times quite sizeable representation numbers. And truthfully the argument presented only seems even more unlikely when one considers the expansion of the EU only further waters down France and Germany total share of the EU.

    • @bobstone0
      @bobstone0 Před 5 měsíci +9

      It's nice that you mentioned a common German-French tank, I think the Italians also joined. It's good that you mentioned helping Ukraine.
      However, Poland had been trying for over 10 years to join the production of the French-German and Italian tank, but each time it was refused. Poland received the answer that they could buy this tank at best and not get involved in production.
      Similarly, when it comes to aid for Ukraine, the first military and lethal equipment from Germany arrived in Ukraine only after 11 months of fighting. Not to mention the fact that the German ambassador in the first days of the war said that it was not worth helping Ukraine because it would fall in a few days.

    • @Quickshot0
      @Quickshot0 Před 5 měsíci +14

      @@bobstone0 I'm well aware of these matters, yes.
      Though the previous Polish government didn't gain itself much trust, considering the political shenanigans they tried to play. Why would anyone trust a tank program to some one playing shenanigans with them, there's enough political complexities between countries with out that kind of headache and potential delay.
      And aid wise, interestingly enough Germany has turned out to be more reliable then Poland. Where towards the end the previous Polish government suddenly did a 180 and suddenly cut off direct aid. Germany meanwhile has literally doubled down and has further increased direct military aid to twice the previous budget at 8 billion. Though they've also allowed their military industry to start building facilities in Ukraine now as well, something Poland hasn't done either. And they've said that in case it seems like Ukraine gets in to to much trouble they are willing to declare an emergency and take loans to keep Ukraine afloat.
      So oddly enough, we're now in a situation where Poland reduced aid, while Germany has turned out to go even more all in then Poland ever did. So seems they take things pretty seriously indeed now.
      I guess we'll see how things go from here though. Maybe the new Polish government will increase aid again after all.

    • @bobstone0
      @bobstone0 Před 5 měsíci

      @@Quickshot0 Nonsense! this is your knowledge of the world.
      The rejection of joint cooperation in the construction of the tank took place in the years 2007-2015, i.e. during the pro-German government that returned to power today, in 2023.
      The new Polish government from 2015-2022 did not even raise this issue, which is why it purchased tanks from Korea and the USA. Because the great Germans will not share with anyone.
      I have never seen bigger lies and nonsense about German aid. German calculations show promises as already fulfilled orders. In these calculations, Polish tanks of Soviet design are valued at $0.50 each, and German helmets at $300 each.
      I will not comment on the words "political intrigues", it is fascist left-wing propaganda, when someone is conservative, he is evil, stupid, hurts children, women, gays and destroys the German-Russian agreement. The devil in human skin.
      Why is your knowledge 100% lies, even Russians don't lie like that, because they usually lie 90%. The Polish government did not block aid! Are you crazy? are you writing from the hospital? It was farmers who opposed the transport of agricultural products that did not meet the standards and requirements imposed by the EU.
      The Germans also did everything not to give up the tanks, they came up with more and more stupid requirements and gave an ultimatum that they would not send tanks to Ukraine unless the USA did it too. Olaf Scholz must have been very surprised when the Americans said there was no problem and they would send the Abrams to Ukraine.
      This is my last message to you. Because I don't have the strength to get angry at bad and stupid people.
      Germany delayed helping because it wanted Ukraine to fall. Because the German government did not want to break off business and trade contacts with Russia. And if Ukraine actually fell in 3 days, everyone would just say, "well, Russia is powerful, you have to deal with it", and at the very end the left-fascist media would start criticizing Poland and inventing lies. That Poles are striving for war and doing everything wrong, while Russia would make further demands for NATO to revert to the pre-1999 levels.

    • @covfefe1787
      @covfefe1787 Před 5 měsíci

      @@Quickshot0 Germany should pay Poland reparation to the tune of 1 trillion Euros for World War II damages :) the Communist government treaties dont count because they were Moscows puppets at the time.

    • @Qnexus7
      @Qnexus7 Před 5 měsíci

      @@Quickshot0 and thats why we can be all greater together...

  • @Mr1159pm
    @Mr1159pm Před 5 měsíci +1

    Good info but check how to pronounce Hague and severely

  • @specialted1
    @specialted1 Před 5 měsíci +2

    When ruling just one country is not enough….

  • @waetschie
    @waetschie Před 5 měsíci +39

    One extremely big factor for the question whether Europe will become a Republic or not is the result of the first europe-wide party 'Volt' in the upcoming European elections!

    • @ronald3836
      @ronald3836 Před 5 měsíci +34

      They seem to be full-on woke, so they alineate the majority of the population from the start. They won a few seats in the Dutch parliament and have been internally fighting ever since. (Woke people are not nice to each other.)

    • @inteallsviktigt
      @inteallsviktigt Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@ronald3836that’s okey, we don’t function on majority rule, but proportional representation

    • @banicite
      @banicite Před 5 měsíci +15

      @@ronald3836 Being 'woke' doesn't exist. Volt is a functioning party.

    • @ronald3836
      @ronald3836 Před 5 měsíci +20

      @@banicite it does exist, and it turns people into nasty beings.

    • @ArtisZ
      @ArtisZ Před 5 měsíci

      What is "woke"? ​@@ronald3836

  • @ce1834
    @ce1834 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Would only be a good idea for the EU 4, not the outlying late additions - taxpayers can't be expected to bankroll less well off citizens on the other side of the continent

    • @zaros1781
      @zaros1781 Před 5 měsíci +3

      In any country there are less prosperous areas as well. But you're probably not a fan of ditching such areas, right?
      Don't forget that most of the post 2004 members were piss poor former communist countries, some had never been independent countries before. The investment and integration of those countries with the rest of the continent made them develop and prosper massively. Concerning living standards they're not on the level of like Germany, but give it another decade and some will get close to it. And the better off these countries are the more Western Europe will profit from it as well. If you want to look at it from a selfish point of view: it's an investment that in time will really pay off.

    • @ce1834
      @ce1834 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@zaros1781 there’s a difference between regions in your own country vs a random other EU nation, people do not share a sense of belonging in the same way no matter how much some vain politicians try to make it so simply in a desire to be equal with the US/China

  • @francisdebriey3609
    @francisdebriey3609 Před 5 měsíci

    Yes it is time to converge to a federal Europe. Unfortunately this will not happen before a major economical downturn. You change only when you are forced to change.

  • @firstpostcommenter8078

    For this to happen, EU needs a common link language that needs to be enforced in member countries for the purposes of Administration, Higher education, Judiciary, Jobs, Banking services, etc. Companies do not want to rely on leniency of countries but rather look for "official common link language" status. There are other big markets like USA which has English, China which has Standard Mandarin, India which has English, etc. So EU has the option to create a common link language (English) or become irrelevant in near future.