Stephen A.: MJ’s 1st 3-peat was better than the 2nd | First Take
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- Stephen A. Smith, Max Kellerman and Marcus Spears debate whether they are more impressed with Michael Jordan’s 1st or 2nd three-peat.
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The first 3 rings was the fruition of labor coming together, and they were learning how to win.
The second 3 they were cementing the legacy of guys who knew how to win.
You hit that right on the nail!
That 72-10 season WITH A RING on it is one of many proofs that your statement is accurate
It was much more than that. The League was tougher in the first three peat. IN the second three-peat there were more bad teams in the second run. The three point line was shorter for the 96 and 97 seasons.
And in the first three peat, Jordan was getting pounded with full handchecking still alowed. The second three peat, Jordan got more favorable calls.
Turtle Island LAC i agree mostly, but the aura they had built around themselves, the mystique, and toughness, earned a lot of those calls too.
It’s hard for a ref not to see a hero either. And they all played that mental game. That was a team that understood the sacrifices to win for long periods.
To a man. That team was forged in fire, beaten by the Pistons with brutality, Jordan and Pippen had to be a**holes to their own team, to create a team strong enough to not be intimidated.
They sacrificed friendships for rings, man, that’s a full comprehension of what it takes to be the top dog.
Players aren’t built like that now.
Nope the first three rings is telling the league how hardwork,chemistry, and talent wins but the second only tells the nba how easy to win championship when you are a super team
ESPN running out of ideas.
"LeBron vs MJ is getting old lets come up with something new"
"MJ vs MJ"
I mean that's the only debate that really makes sense
Young MJ vs Veteran MJ
The Truth it’s a good debate but they have already discussed it 85457 times on espn . They just reaching for topics now
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Matt T I'm
Lmao, imagine being so god-like that sports analysts debate whitch one 3 peat of winning NBA championships wad better. Amen.
Something lebron cant relate too
incredibly difficult to beat one superstar teams in the finals. Unheard of to be guarded by Jeff Hornacek in not one, but two finals. Imagine the adversity of playing unbelievable, unimaginable defensive talent.
Only the goat🐐
Crazy huh
@Ghost2000 and he when he faced lesser competition in 2011 what happened?
the first was harder the second was most memorable
Young King facts
@Young King 100%true!!
I say the second was harder due to age and facing the Jazz twice who were no slouches in basketball , offensively and defensively ... and it started after a layoff
Yeah I think the reverse actually. The last couple years were so hard for the Bulls. They barely survived the Pacers, MJ with the Flu, Pippen and his constant back problems, Jazz with the better record and homecourt advantage etc. Bulls were down by 3 points with 43 seconds left and Mike had to make 3 consecutive monster plays just to seal it cause Utah woulda had all the momentum for game 7 n MJ was spent
I completely disagree, idiot.
Max you dun made me want to quote you now... “Points are cheap now, points were expensive then”. Couldn't have said it better myself.
James harden just got 3 free throws for this comment
Vang Xiong you mentioned harden in a comment, 2 free throws for Harden
Amen
That's an all time quote!!
His father was murdered.
He quit basketball.
He shifted his athletic mind and body to play baseball.
He shot space jam.
His team was not as good as it used to be.
Imagine coming back and winning another 3 championships in a row after all of that
The 2nd 3 peat is what made Jordan the GOAT 🐐
"His team was not as good as it used to be"
It was actually better. Rodman > Grant and Kukoc was better than any 3rd scorer the Bulls had in their first three peat.
i love space jam amazing movie
@@Ultimatecheezeburger but Scottie had regressed incredibly. For example, in the first 3 peat, 2/3 of those chips during that season he was averaging over 2 steals a game, in the 2nd 3 peat, he had 0 seasons averaging over 2 steals a game. Also in the first 3 peat every year he averaged over 6 assists, in the 2nd 3 peat, he didn’t average 6 assists once. Rodman was a good addition but Scottie was near his end.
Im a Bron fan but MJ is the goat
You know this when we out here debating WHICH 3peat was better, incredible
Me too and I was about to say the same exact thing lol
Now that's keeping it real!
@Dats a paddlin Dude u don't know wth u talking bout.
@Dats a paddlin MJ gave the 86' Celtics a scare when he only had bums on his team. The 90's Bulls could've beaten any team in the 80's. 6 chips? Maybe, maybe not, but at least as many as Bird or even Magic.
L.A. your one of the few lebron fans that says MJ is the goat. Thank you for being smart and understanding basketball. Hats off to you sir
The level Mj was on during that first run is what made us start calling him the 🐐
@1- 20 - 7 LG Go back and watch the 93 NBA Finals. Commentators were literally referring to him as being the greatest of all time even before they won the series. Think about that. MJ was being held to that regard before he even finished the first three peat!
Osama Abdi lebron beat a 73-9 team with unanimous mvp
Drop 63 point in playoff is hard,everybody try to win in playoff
Young Saucy But he’s 3-6 in the finals
@1- 20 - 7 LG nope watch his third championship post game interview..... The commentator literally asked him "how do you feel now with everyone thinking about you as the greatest TO EVER PLAY THE GAME"
The fact that they're talking about 2 different versions of the same player that lead his team to a 3 peat says it all about MJs 🐐 standing
Facts💯
Exactly!
While you may be right, getting drafted or ran even. It helps greatly if your franchise has a glimpse of common sense.
@Jiggy Thanos Nothing that even remotely resembles a slight at Jordan, if that was your concern? I sense abrasive energy on your side of the screen..but I'm open to being wrong. Either way I'm here for you man, stay safe out there..🙏🏿❤
@Jiggy Thanos If that's what helps to make your day better, I salute your effort. ✊🏿
"Who am I , the Rabbi?"
😂😂 Max kills me Dawg
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Yooooo you caught that he sneaked that in too😂😂😂that was bout to be my comment
Man does come up with hilarious comments. I mean I love Patrick Mahomes, but this guy went and said he's the best player to ever live after 2 seasons 😅
Loved that 😂😂😂
So true, points werent cheap back then. Dropping 40 is like dropping 55 or 60 today
MrBananaSamich one of the Rare times Max made sense lol
“Can I get an AMEN” lmfaoooo SAS is pure entertainment 😂😂😂💯
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The First 3Peat he was more HighFlying DUNKING ON EVERYONES HEAD,
The 2nd he Just put a STAMP on what we all knew, he was the GREATEST PLAYER EVER
SouthPaw773 word
Tyrone jacobs jr you sound stupid
He was more dominant in the 1st three peat. He was toying with everybody from '87 - '93 and during the 1st threepeat he averaged 37/6/7 on 51% from the field during the 1st Threepeat in the Finals. 2nd Threepeat he was a much better leader and understood the game on a supremely high level and trusted his teammates more and that Threepeat made him the Undisputed GOAT
Perfect way to sum it up
He was past his prime in the 2nd 3peat had a lot of helps from the refs
@@jamaali2358 u can tell ur a LEBUM fan please remind me of when LEBUM 3 peated I'll wait
THE GREAT ONE
Why bring up Lebron?? Seems like you’re the Bronsexual here🤦🏾♂️
People who bring up Lebron in a convo where he’s not needed are the real Bronsexuals 🤷🏾♂️😉
Couldn’t have said it any better
Max: So who am I the Rabbi? 💀💀💀
Underrated comment! lol
Bro Fuxkin CRICKETS! 🤣
This killed me!! Lol
The first 3-peat was the best because of the level of competition that he's had to go up against
Yea, and bully ball was prevalent. Cats could get cold-cocked and a regular foul just MIGHT be called. Detroit and NY were straight up abusive almost with impunity! Lol. The man handling, errm, hand checking back then was crazy, too. The rules changed by the 2nd 3 peat so it was a kinder, gentler NBA then.
Both 3peats had special things about em but I'd lean towards the 1st one based on the "MJ tripeat" deally.
Sports 311 Exactly. He finally got over the hump of gettin destroyed by boston and detroit too
Excuse me? Which team was better than the Jazz?
Sports 311 I don’t agree the jazz was a awesome team
2nd was crazy too, but it wasnt the Aerial MJ. it was Fadeway MJ.
How about First Take “the Skip Bayless Years” vs. Max Kellerman era? 🤣🤣🤣
Man now thats Great
Skip Bayless years all the way
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Teddy atlas joined the group
🤣🤣🤣 yeah Dawg!!! 💯🥳🏆
ESPN morning meeting;
Boss: Alright guys what material do we have today
Employee 1: I got nothing
Employee 2: Me neither
Boss: Goddammit lets just run another Jordan debate
LW43 lmaooo facts!!!
it says the great debate lmaooo
Lol😂😂
1st 3 peat Jordan is the greatest basketball player that ever will be.
Hands down
Jordan is the GOAT, no other player will likely ever have 2 separate 3 peats as the best player on the team in their career! 🔥
Man but if Lebron was to grab at least two it’s an argument because I don’t just look at rings then that’s the cast Montana is still better then Brady he didn’t loose 4/0 yes Brady is 6-3 those 3 loses was bad but I still think Brady was better and then bill Russell is better then Michael he has 11 rings you see what I’m getting at he’s not better then Jordan tho but Lebron idk man Lebron is the total package
@@jdrumz23 NEVER GONNA HAPPEN THE QUEEN WILL FOREVER BE OVERSHADOWED BY MJ`S LEGACY ...
Russell 8-Peated
JDom you do have to count rings because getting rings comes with adversity and how he played to get those rings. He was the best player in all of his runs to get rings.
Robert Horry is better 11 > 6
*Flu game, fathers death,retired,72-10,final game ,and final shot with bulls was like a movie*
1st 3peat Jordan was a GOD‼️
2nd 3peat Jordan was IMMORTAL‼️
Notorious
Well yea but nobody knew what Jordan would be after his return 🤷🏾♂️
So as I stated 2nd 3peat Jordan was IMMORTAL‼️😉
I like the sound of that, lmao.
Chill the league was water downed Michael Jordan is the G.O.A.T. but who knows a player might end up being better then him.
@@ruchpat1 I think Hakeem would have beat him
Jordan even said hisself the 98 title against utah was the tuffest chip to get!!!!
George Brother of course it was tougher because he was old The first threepeat was clearly more impressive
George Brother I’d imagine it was a tougher chip, the miles were getting to Jordan
My man was 35 so it’s understood
@@christiansoldier77 he said the jazz was the only team that made him work for it ..it wasnt nothing to do with age buddy!!!
@@studiouswadoo5027 yall thinking because his age he said the jazz was his tuffest challenge not because of his age!!!
The second one was more memorable somehow. Maybe because it's more recent or because the late '90s Jazz was such a legendary team. The Mailman is 2nd on the NBA all-time scoring list after all.
Can you name 5 players on that Jazz team besides Stockton & Malone without the help of google?
@@maceomillions2192 Greg Ostertag, abd a 3 point specialist Jeff Ornacek, Antoine Carr, and Byron Russell and that's off of memory because those teams won 64 and 62 games those finals seasons.
@@maceomillions2192 "Famous" and "good" are two different things.
LeBum does nothing better than MJ but pass the ball. MJ has better footwork, better at scoring, better at getting points off the ball, better at defending (on and off the ball), better at driving in the lane (the way he controls his body and better hangtime), better offensive rebounder (more seasons with 100 offensive rebounds than LeBum), better at shooting, and more clutch. LeBum is Lamar Odom with more stamina.
Facts
Stamina? Lamar Odom was smashing hookers on crack!
this topic has nothing to do with bron why bring up his name???? yall bron haters are so weird.
Also Jordan was a better free throw shooter
she really just said "try peat"
She's an Air Head..
Tri as in triple
"Three-peat" had been the proper term
Vs. "tree-peat?"
‘Coz the tweet said tripeat. Understandable in this context.
Max: points are cheap today. I’ve been saying this for five years. Bout time someone pointed this out
Shawn Kemp was a great player!!!
💯💯 I've always said that LeBron is a mix of magic and early Shawn kemp. Kemp was a BEAST in his early days!
@1- 20 - 7 LG i can see that comparison
How good was Kemp? The man got Finals MVP votes in 96 as a member of the losing team and the GOAT was on the floor too.
1- 20 - 7 LG Rodman was the greatest defender at the PF spot that I’ve ever seen, and Kemp averaged 24 and 11 vs him on 55% shooting in those finals. He even literally teabagged him on a dunk. Unreal talent.
@1- 20 - 7 LG thats true if Shawn Kemp had fully developed as skilled player the debate between him and LeBron would have been crazy!
I'm predicting ESPN will have a JORDAN SHOE bracket in 2 more weeks. "Which Air Jordan Shoe was the Best?"
Uptown Kal “OG Retro Jordan 1 and here’s why ... “
Que greene LOL FACTS!
Cement 4’s... Concord 11’s... too many classics 🤔
Magic Johnson literally called MJ "the most talented player in the NBA by far" when Magic was still playing in the NBA and making all-NBA 1st teams. Imagine Steph/KD/Kawhi saying that about LeBron or Harden or whatever, it would never happen in a million years. But MJ was just on a different level and all his contemporaries knew it, Bird called Jordan "God disguised as Michael Jordan" after a playoff series. That's how amazing he was.
Couldn’t have said it much better than that.
Can’t wait for the docu to come out!!!!
First time I was happy to see Max, winning the argument with supporting person, but SAS made huge comeback at last.
Half these kids with opinions never seen either lol 3 peat
google Google my status is for you lol exposed
LEBUM HAS LOST THREE FINALS TO A LIGHT SKIN POINT GUARD.
So what lebrom ain't the goat so he can lose but why you gotta hate homie lebron still is an all time great and top 5 of all time.
LeBron passed you up a long time ago when he took a bunch of nobodies to his first final. Even you couldn't do that because you were too busy getting cooked in the first rounds.
Mr. Twelve Nobodies? George Hill and Kyle Korver makes the Bucks “stacked” according to you Bronsexuals.
Mr. Twelve Bronsexuals think playing against Oladipo, Gilbert Arenas, a 41 win Nets team, and a bunch of rookies on the Celtics is more impressive than playing prime Bird, McHale, and Parish.
@@magodtrick3166 stfu scrub. you wet jordan fanboys are hilarious and will refuse to accept the reality of it all anyway. Lmao. LeBron passed up your overrated player a long time ago. You wanna talk rings because you jordan fanboys think he won it all himself without the help of his teammates and coach. LeBron passed him up a long time ago, boomer. Lol.
A better question would be, “Which team would win in a 7 game series? 1st 3peat Bulls vs the Second 3peat Bulls?” 🤔. Would the younger more physical 91-93 team be able to shut down the more experienced better shooting 96-98 team? 🤔
Ambitious Underdogz lol that’s a 7 game series coming down to the last shot. Jordan makes the shot over Jordan 🤷🏽♂️
Motrell Morrid lool. Couldn’t say it any better
@@motrellmorrid543 i don't know, Jordan was such a great defensive player that Jordan might stop Jordan for the win.
2nd 3 peat were a better team
1st 3 peat..
First 3-peat Jordan was in his physical prime - GOD MODE
Averaged 41 pts in Finals verse Phoenix! As you probably know! Thats unreal. Like Max said pts we're not cheap back then. Phoenix was not a defensive power house by any means so what did they score 95 a game against Phoenix instead of 87 a game in other finals? Maybe not cause game he got 55 pts I think barely broke 90 ish
So much more explosive and he still had his patented fade-away and midrange pull up.
MJ is just insane
He was still I'm his prime in the second peat too 30 ppg ,29ppg, 28ppg are elite numbers still
The first 3 peat was against better teams and the second 3 peat was more iconic.
“ Ik he beat Seattle with Gary Payton and Shawn Kemp before he became Shawn Klump” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I Died Laughing 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭😭
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Alieu Camara *Klump 🤦🏿♂️
Hercules Hercules Hercules lol
He should stop disrespecting that man's last name
The 2nd one had his most ICONIC MOMENTS
96'championship on Father's day
His Flu game
And who could forget
THE SHOT
It's close. The 1st one had the 1st ever championship and the switch hand what a move by Jordan play against the lakers
6 3s and the 1st have shrug game
You can't go in me game against the Cavs
average 40 in finals in 93
Not to rain on your parade but ‘The Shot’ was an offensive foul’ Jordan clearly pushed off lol
Mannie Supa Sport bro that was not a offensive foul. He did not push off. Clearly Russell’s momentum from Jordan faking him so bad made it look like Jordan pushed off. He didn’t. Russell’s momentum carried him that far. Go back and watch the side view and you can clearly see that.
@Eric Duncan
Lol Stop It
You and I and both know that Jordan pushed off with his off hand. Can see it plain as day. Obviously No call by the refs. Nice try. Even Isiah Thomas (commentator) noticed it on the Live TV Broadcast and called Jordan ‘crafty.’ STILL A CLASSIC JORDAN GOAT MOMENT, THOUGH.
Mannie Supa Sport it was not an offensive foul. I’m telling you. Jordan didn’t push off on him. He just had his hand on him. Go back and watch the highlight from the side view. You can clearly see he did not use and force to push off. I don’t care what anybody says.
im sad i wasnt old enough to watch prime mj live
Every time he was announced before the game it was like God is descending, it is hard to describe and convey the aura and presence MJ had. So glad I was able to experience that. Later I witnessed entire Kobe's and Lebron's careers, you just can't put them in the same sentence, MJ was something else
Aleksandar Gospić Kobe yes but LeBron no
Sorry you missed it. It was special
@@AleksandarGospic facts
@Jason Avery truth
This man dropped like 40 with the flu. 2nd 3peat
Hangover
@VincentHanna121 that's how nice he was
That Jazz was no joke , I think that jazz team could have easily smoked the lakers blazers suns teams
Tony Neeland yea they swept Kobe and Shaq
Tod Wilkinson I agree that suns team was stacked but I would go with John and Karl in the clutch
@@11bfollowme19 LOL they were definitely as good or on the same level as the suns. I think people forget about Karl Malone's Dominance.
Lebron's 6th finals loss was better than the 3rd
haha The Sweep!! Lebron is also #2 in the most turnovers in NBA history which explains why he loses in the Finals most of the time.
Seeing LeBron lose to old dirk of Dallas was very satisfying
Lost to out of prime dirk was great too.
Clippers Suck doesn't matter
@Clippers Suck Who cares Jordan did won Finals Mvp 6 times, and he was playing with and arguably against better players than Lebron. Not to mention it didn't take Jordan 7 games to win a ring.
2nd. The 96 ring was the most memorable and his breakdown after the game in honor of his father.
And redemption the year prior
Worthy and Byron Scott was on that Laker team in 91. It was missing Kareem though but he was too old at that point and had retired in 89.
They still could have signed another big center to replace Kareem.
they had Divac
@@adamsamuel8593 They should have signed Hakeem when Kareem retired. Houston team was pure trash from 87 to 91. Wasted years of all-time great player.
Michael Jordan ALWAYS found a way to get it done! He always persevered amongst adversity 🐐
Except when he met Bird
Snoop's Doggystyle (1993) and Skee-Lo's I Wish (1995) are my favorite rap albums of all-time. I think of Isaiah Thomas when I think of Skee-Lo. I also loved Soul For Real's Candy Rain album. This is way before I got more into white music.
Magic played with Byron Scott, Worthy in 1991 Stephen A
What MJ did in the first game against the Blazers is what he would do playing in this era
MJ never playing a game 7 in the finals is much more impressive the making 9 finals. It's something LeBron wishes he can still do and he doesn't even come close. Shame on Stephen A for putting LeBron's name 2nd to Jordan. 😅😅
Imagine MJ getting taken to a Game 7 by a 38 year old Duncan, Roy Hibbert, rookie Tatum, or Oladipo.
@@lebronsdadsplayedtogether3771 That would be embarrassing.
Knicks took Bulls to 7 games in the early 90s
Pacers took Bulls to 7 games in ‘98
@@manniesupasport7977 keyword: FINALS.
why bring up bron's name ???? this topic is about micheal jordan. yall bron haters are weird
Agreed! The fist was dope! Went through magic, Drexler and Barkley!!
The greatest athlete of 21st century, his mental strenght to overcome all those obstacles after the first 3peat is just immensely unbelievable..miracle like..just goosebumps..what an admirable individual👏👏👏
Steven A really missing NBA right now 😂😂😂😂😂
Yep 😂😂😂
Shawn Klump 🤣🤣🤣
“Shawn Kemp before he turned into Shawn Klump.”
I caught that lmao
Hercules, Hercules lol
The two three-peats are pretty much even in my books. Every finals he played in produced iconic moments for him.
Michael Jordan first three-peat was the greatest in his prime he scored over 40 points a game in the finals against Charles Barkley Phoenix Suns in 93 nobody in history never gonna do that again and he beat Clyde Drexler in his prime no doubt the first three-peat was excellence at his best
Stephen A. Smith is pure comedy😂 “Amen”
Thank you molly never thought I’d see the day 🙌🏾
the second one. it gets exponentially more difficult w each one. which is why a second threepeat hasnt been done since the bulls did it in the 90's
MJ was a beast on first three peat, he was in his physical prime and just destroyed everyone. But on the second one he was greater, 72-10, flu game, the shot, overcoming injuries, it was more significant
Just give Stephen A. his own show... i dont wanna hear anybody else talk😭
He has a podcast
Agreed 👍
Max gives been a major headache
Nah 2nd was better. Lost his dad, came back from losing to Orlando in the ECF to become 72-10, beat Utah twice when Karl Malone was MVP one of the years, dealing with injured Pippen, Contract disputes. He was older and still winning. '97 Game 1 buzzer beater.
Bulls were younger and athletic during the first 3-peat. SP33 and MJ23 were absolutely FRICKIN lethal!!
I was barely one when Jordan got his last ring, so my opinion is invalid.
But I think the second 3peat made Jordan the GOAT. He was older, but more skilled and smarter. And him coming back and winning showed he could easily pick up where he left.
Frankie Russell go to bed youngsta. Grown folks talking.
wow a 1 year old bringing his input? LMAO gtfoh. I was 7, almost 8 years old in 1998 when he won his last ring. I think it's past your bed time.
The Skoda Family
So you’re nearly 30 yet ur doing pranks in the grocery store? Interesting
@@zubeirje Yes I am a CZcamsr that has a 6 digit salary. I'm not complaining. Look the point is. Nobody that is 1 year old when Jordan won has last Championship should be speaking about this topic AT ALL
The Skoda Family
That’s kind of unfair to say. That’s like me saying you’re not allowed to speak on Magic, Bird, Kareem, Russell etc
BRONSEXUALS CAN’T NAME 5 PLAYERS FROM THE 1991-93 BULLS BESIDES JORDAN AND PIPPEN.
MJ fans are so weird lmao. Always dedicating their pages to lebron hate
Bruh what did Lebron do to you? Take the goat status so what🥴?
Uhh...there was the dude with the goggle glasses and the the center Cartwheel and BJ Longlegs...
Anyone that saw Jordan during the first 3peat witnessed the perfect basketball player.He had NO weakness.’90-‘93 Jordan is what every player wants to be,that’s one of the numerous reasons why he’s the GOAT
Great Debate
1st 3-peat = better Jordan
2nd 3-peat = better bulls team
If it had not been for the expansion draft and the Minnesota Timberwolves selecting Rick Mahorn, MJ's first championship would have been delayed one year. The Pistons would have 3-peated.
Jordan already took them to 7 games the previous year, maybe it wouldn't be 4-0 but the Bulls were on a mission in 1991.
Maybe
i love this debate.
All had great arguments. Most fans remember the last but the world fear Jordan after he got past the Pistons....
The second 3 peat he didn’t use as much energy because he was older, smarter and stronger. He came back and beat teams that used the Bulls first 3peat championship teams as a blueprint. No doubt Houston Championship teams were molded after the Bulls as well as Orlando (two outside shooters and a All World guard in Penny). Shaq was thee exception because he was the most dominant Center in history
Did I just watch a debate and Molly not interrupting AT ALL? 🤯
Super jordan stans are quick to call people bronsexuals, even in a MJ vs MJ video you still bring up lebron. You guys even make accounts purely to bash lebron. I’ve never even seen a bron fan think of doing the same to jordan.
Guys jordan is good enough to be called the goat without dragging anyone else’s name in the dirt. Just be thankful you got to see these two play have a couple debates but don’t be childish.
Also I’m a lebron fan but I’ll say jordan is the goat.
HoodNaruto LeBron's mentioned because their are people who are convinced he's the greatest basketball player of all time.
cmhyperviper11 shut up this video legit has nothing to do with lebron. It’s MJ VS MJ not “who is the goat” and even if it was a goat convo I can guarantee you it would be people shitting on lebron the most yet say he’s not top 5. And then they would just compare accolades with the other people in the goat convo
I agree.
Has to be one of the best quotes ever: "POINTS ARE CHEAP NOW, POINTS WERE EXPENSIVE THEN!" How true!!
He faced better teams in the first 3 peat
MJ’s first 7 years is better than LeBum’s career
Max is right. I initially posted this before I finished watching the video. I was privileged to watch both three peats. The 96, 97, and 98 bulls teams were better teams than 91, 92, 93 but the 91, 92, 93 MJ was a better MJ than the 96, 97, 98 MJ! The 91, 92, 93 MJ was my favorite MJ to watch!
“ Can I get an amen” 😂😂😂😂
HERE COME ALL THE LBJ FANS AND THEIR EXCUSES DEFENDING THE QUEEN
Man they are trash..... they come with that bull.
@The REAL Chosen One and congrats LBJ fan...would you like to post a excuse for your queen?
@@davidconejr4206 nowhere in the video did anyone mention lebron yet here you are bringing him up in the comments...
@@TJHernandez522 ahhhh ....another LBJ fan...would you like to post a excuse for your queen?
why are you bringing up brons name david??? this topic is specifically talking about M.J and the bulls this has nothing to do with bron stop hating, could you even make it to the nba??? could you carry a team to the finals? can you? can you?
To me: very difficult to pick between the two 3peats
IMO - The 2nd 3-peat was better than the first. The 1st 3-peat was Jordan ascending to the pantheon of greats, but the 2nd 3-peat was when Jordan took his place on the throne and cemented his legacy as the GOAT. Between leading the 72-10 Bulls, the "Flu Game", and hitting the last shot in '98, that 2nd run was truly legendary, and it eclipsed the 1st 3-peat.
1st 3peat. Passing of the torch from Magic, The Shrug vs Clyde, 41ppg Vs Barkley. Miks is definitely at his physical peak in 87-93, making his 3 rings in that stretch more special than his next 3. Imagine Kawhi in this era, just faster and has a higher vertical.
And better passer.. he is a great passer but he could score with ease so why bother..
This segment is ridiculous. Espn needs to have a segment about how Lebron has NEVER 3peated and NEVER created a DYNASTY for any of the franchises he has played for........And never will.
LeBron James’ Playoff Legacy:
- Goes 1-9 in the 2nd half vs Pistons in Game 7 of the 2006 ECSF.
- Saved by Bobbie Gibson in Game 7 of the 2007 ECF against the Pistons without Ben Wallace. LeFraud went 3-11 the whole game while Boobie Gibson scored 19 points to close out the series.
- Put up 22 PPG on 34% in the 2007 finals to get swept after each game was decided by single digits.
- Goes 8-20 FG in Game 6 of the 2009 ECF against Orlando; Outplayed by Delonte West and Hedo Turkoglu.
- In the 2010 ECSF, LeFraud loses three straight to the Celtics after being up 2-1. He averaged 21 PPG on 34% FG with 6.3 turnovers a game during that losing stretch to run to D Wade in Miami.
- Before joining Wade in Miami, LeFraud was 0-4 in a playoff series against teams who had an All-NBA player that year (Wallace/Billups 2006, Duncan 2007, KG 2008, Dwight 2009)
- Promised Miami 8 rings only to get outscored by Jason Terry in the 2011 Finals while playing more minutes, not to mention he scored 8 points in a Finals game.
- Taken to 7 Games by Ray Allen, KG, and Paul Pierce in their mid 30s in the 2012 ECF despite having the better overrall superteam.
- Outscored by Wade in the 4th quarters of the 2012 Finals (Only series he dominated against legit competition was due to Wade closing out the games).
- Taken to 7 games by 22 year old Paul George and Roy Hibbert in the 2013 ECF despite having a superteam.
- Outscored by Danny Green in the first three games of the 2013 Finals; Saved by Ray Allen in Game 6.
- Suffered the biggest series blowout in NBA Finals history in the 2014 Finals, padded his stats when the Spurs were up 15 for Games 1, 3-5 of the Series by scoring 51/141 of his points in blowout situations.
- LeFraud goes scoreless in OT in Game 1 of the 2015 Finals, outplayed by Mozgov in Game 4 with a chance to go up 3-1 at HOME, and recorded 118 misses (most since 1967) during the series. Averaged 36 PPG on an inefficient 35% shooting.
- LeFraud suspeneds Draymond in Game 5 on a brink of elimination, he goes for 41 points in that game and 41 points in Game 6 (Despite Draymond was avoiding another tech to get suspended). In Game 7 where Draymond can go all out on defending LeFraud, he goes 9-24 and 0-4 in the final four minutes of the 4th quarter until Kyrie saves his legacy.
- LeFraud dissapears in the 2nd half of the 2017 Finals and was outplayed by KD in the 4th quarters of that series.
- LeFraud’s “greatest playoff run” consisted of Jayson Tatum, Marcus Smart, and Oladipo taking him to 7 games and scoring 0 points in OT against the Warriors in Game 1 after exploding for 51 points.
- LeFraud activates “playoff mode” in the west only to go 3-12 for the rest of the season and recruit Anthony Davis after missing the playoffs
LeBron’s Dads Played Together
Don’t forget he was on his knees to make Kawhi come to create another superteam
King Markbarry you a fool Lebron was still dropping 28 ppg on kawhi but the spurs won because that’s how much the heat needed bron
second 3 peat started off with the 72-10 season!
"Can i get a amen?"
'Well'😂😂😂😂
First time hearing someone say “tri-peat.” Molly you trying too hard...
It’s what that guy tweeted out. Not Molly.
Y’all be hating for no reason 😂 read the tweet bro
Loooool you right ty for the clarification although it wouldn’t surprise me if she said it. My bad haha 😂😂
BDub 824 nooo cap😂
I hate it when First Take debates become arguments on semantics rather than actual sports talk.
The Goat there’s no sports to talk about 😂
Max: “who am I the Rabbi” lol
I wonder which lebron three peat was th...
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@Harinder that series was rigged and we all know it.
1.(I know this wasn’t on purpose but) bogut got hurt
2. Draymond got ejected so he couldn’t play game five when they down 3-1
3. Curry got fouled out for the first time at the end of game 6 (the call was b.s.)
@Harinder Rana tougher or better? There’s a huge difference. Plus 2015 warriors, 2011 mavs or 2012 thunder aren’t better than any of the teams mj beat in the finals.
And when draymond came back in game six the cavs has the momentum by then the warriors had no chance at the cavs home court but I’ll admit they completely chocked game 7
Harinder Rana ok, the spurs or warriors with kd were better than the teams mj played but your acting like mj wouldn’t beat those teams when mj is on the greatest team of all time he’d beat any of those teams lebron played against
LeBum has less career offensive rebounds than Jordan despite playing more games. LeBum is an overrated rebounder, this is funny since LeBum played with shooters while MJ played with Grant, Rodman, and Pippen.
Literally Pippen is better than anyone LeBron has played with. Rodman is the greatest defender of all time. So yeah, Michael had a decent amount of help as well. Also, calling grown men names only makes you look more idiotic and immature.
TimothyKK Lol at pippen being better than wade or anthony davis. Pippen was never a top 5 player in the league while malone, hakeem, shaq, robinson, gary payton, or barkley were playing.
@Clippers Suck amen....This is accurate.. Some people's narratives are corny..lol
@Joshua Johnson thank you lebron fans reaching lol
Joshua Johnson Micheals Fg% dropped significantly against Payton and they lost the next 2 games. Give credit where credit is due
2nd three-peat:
- GOAT
- Best Robin/all around game
- Best rebounder/defender
- Best European player (during those years)
- Best three point shooter
- Best coach
- Deepest bench
- 2/3 chips were against a team with 2 HOFs and HOF coach
Goodfella being the best European back then didn’t mean much at all .. and who was the best 3 point shooter you’re talking about ..
da ra more like da racist. He was 6th man of year, fool. A key contributor.
“Pastor Spears” 😂😂😂😂
Your hairline in the 80’s was better than today’s’ sand here’s why......
Lebron kids, stay out of this room. For adults only.
onidtubes Why do you even feel the need to bring up LeBron?
Jay Money Ik right he weird
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i love that we have all this free time to talk about the GOAT.
Getting to compare both your 3peats to say which is better just proves how great you were
In NBA history as its documented. All teams that met each other twice in the finals would win one and then lose one to the same team no matter what year. That up until the bulls beat the Jazz twice making them the first team to do so. That has not happen until Lelames cavs got beat TWICE by the goldenstate warriors. So Karl Malone and Lebum share history together. They were both beat twice in the finals by the same team. And they say Lelames the goat!?....i cant grasp the concept sorry.
yall bron haters are so weird, isnt this topic about M.J not about what the nba documented
@@Von2hott no hating just straight facts bruh