Brad Larkin - DNA vs the Irish Annals
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- The major Irish genealogical groups from the Irish Annals such as high kings, the Uí Néill, and the provincial kings of Connacht, Munster, Leinster, and Ulster as well as Norman lineages are discussed. A brief review of how much modern DNA linked to these lineages has been sampled and how consistent the DNA findings match the ancient genealogies. This presentation is well suited for those who like to connect historical figures to their genetic genealogy research.
Brad's slides are available here - www.surnamedna.com/?attachment...
This lecture was presented at Genetic Genealogy Ireland 2014. Please note that these GGI2014 videos are copyrighted to the presenter and should only be used for personal study. They are not to be used for any other purpose without the presenters express permission. Also, please note that because this is a rapidly advancing field, the content may quickly become outdated.
The lectures were sponsored by FamilyTreeDNA (at www.ftdna.com) and organised by volunteers from ISOGG (International Society of Genetic Genealogy at www.isogg.org). - Věda a technologie
Tuatha De Dannian is not a historical text but a Druidic religious text perhaps to memorise specific beliefs in story form. It describes the Solar year. Specifically, it describes the moment when the new sun (Lugh) destroys the winter sun (Balor or Jack Frost) and brings spring.
I am a Larkin too. My great great great grandfather was Peter Larkin who was transported to Sydney cove with a few other rebels, in 1821. Patrick Staunton was another. Two of their children married in Australia. They were from Ballina Slough in Galway.
Would be very interested how far back you can go
@@johnlarkin3328 we have detailed history back to Ireland and the time Peter Larkin and Patrick Staunton were arrested and transported ca 1821. You can email me at thomaskay7@gmail.com for more information Kay Thomas
My second great (or great great) grandmother was Catherine Larkin from Newry, County Down, that line pretty much stayed in County Down until my maternal grandmother came to the U.S. As far as I've gotten, I believe her parents were John and Ann Larkin (probably from the same area). My DNA is estimated to be 1% Scottish and 99% Irish.
Brad has kindly made his slides available here - www.surnamedna.com/?attachment_id=1594
Thank you O:)
I find it hard to believe that the ancient Irish didn't write manuscripts, it seems more likely to me that the church confiscated/destroyed them. We're led to believe that they were somewhat primitive and wild in comparison to the Roman world, but this version of history was largely written by Christian monks.
J Murphy There was no paper used during that time and vellum was very costly to produce. I have never seen Oggam examples on other than stone. Remember of that the Irish were Christian before the English. Lack materials does not mean primitive. Can anyone clarify?
Even if Vellum was costly to produce, it could have been used to record important information for posterity. The Celts supplied hemp fiber or cordage to the Romans. It's not inconceivable that they made paper from it too. William Lucas
Ogham was used to create markers and define boundries. There are about 350 examples of Ogham and nearly all are used on stone. There are some examples on wood which suggests it may have been far more widely used but because wood breaks down little evidence remains. Writing as such was not practiced by the Draoí (Draoí is the Irish word, druid is Welsh). Oral tradition protected the understanding of knowledge and prevented its corruption or misinterpretation by those who were not schooled to understand it properly. More importantly, it made for an exclusive class where the monopoly on power could be held onto by the priest class and ensured their position in society. The Church later used the same tactic by preaching and printing the bible in Latin which stopped the lay person from dismissing the clergy and thus ensuring their position within society.The Gaels were primitive in so much that much of the advancements from mainland Europe were drip fed to an island nation but were always eagerly embraced. On the other hand, when it came to social distinction, the arts, social structure and law structure we were highly advanced.
William Lucas they used animal skin not vellum at that time and while they may have had some things on stone, they would have transferred that to the skin.
Why do people like you claim that 'the church' destroyed things? Pure prejudice. It was the monks, the church at the time who recorded everything as the Irish previously had no writing except Ógham which was written on stone.
this is some the most coolest stuff iv ever seen im goin to download all your videos man there apsalute amazing,from a full blooded irish man,i thank you bro🙏but is any of you content anything on the 'o' cuanachain/cooney clan,i gave months tryin to find something an got discouraged,or my nan's clan the Hayde or Ely,could you shed sum light on any of those names brother,i would even pay you for something on them,as i wudn have a fraction of your skill of knowing this stuff.
Thank you so much!
Very impressive presentation. Clearly described and incisive. An enthralling subject. Though born in England my (2 so far) genetic tests prove my lineage as Ancient Irish as my great grandfather JAMES MULROY came from Lachtmacdurcan Meelick Co Mayo Ireland. I thoroughly recommend to anyone having their genetic DNA tested. It's easy to do. A cheek swab usually. We all carry within us ancient lineages going back way way way into the distant past. We who are living carry this living history within us.
MICHAEL MULROY
Bejasus, a Swinford man, yup ya boya.
A proper rubber Paddy never mind plastic 🇮🇪💚🇮🇪
@@barrymcguire7124I always found those terms to be insulting. People are just interested in their heritage and the Irish are so mean to them.
amazing video I am in RM-222 but my ancestors where a Cheshire Blue Blooded family of Baguley/Bagley/ but we had a well preserved oral history and what was passed down was we were Cheshire blue blooded family but came over from Ireland with Irish Vikings they settled in Wythenshawe
Grandmother is a McCary ( her mother a Gallagher) ...from Clonbara Falcara Donegal I was always told by THE OLD PEOPLE that we are direct descendants of Conn of the Hundred Battles
Hey Cuz.From what I read the Mullins clan r direct descendants of Conn.I think his lines go to Tia Tephi and her line goes to King David.Its a small world.
"OLD PEOPLE"?? as in, your great-grandma?
Really interesting Brad. Thank you very much.
what a load of rubbish, he cant prounce irish words
A lot of those Leinster men ended up in the province of Munster by the 19th century.
My Murphy is down South in Kerry ❤ and my Sullivan.
Great presentation, but he has his Northern & Southern Ui Néill info reversed at about the 18min mark.
for you to know that i'm thinking you're in the m222 haplogroup? ...i am.
why can't he pronounce the names properly,if you're going to do a presentation you could at least learn the proper pronounciation.
Names, places, "progenitor", oh so many pronunciation issues here.
He should know the facts too.
I am just here for the comments..lol
My surname is Casey and my mother was McGrath, so in the absence of DNA testing I can take from this that I am strongly of Dal gCáis heritage?
Would have preferred video to info packed slides only
People forget the term Viking isn't an ethnic group. It's a profession (literally meaning raider or pirate from: vikngr). So you could be a Somali viking.
Just as Norman was derived from North Man, it's a changing and evolving term. The language of the Angles (or English) only split from Frisian very recently, but our shared history is much, much older (and has associations with far off ancestry), And will take science to understand it better.
Cináed mac Ailpin ( Kenneth MacAlpin ) Born in what is now Scotland , he is said to have been the 5th to last King of the Picts . As to whether Cináed lead Irish forces , be they 'Scots' or not , against his own people , Gael or Pict , who can say ? There is no mention either way in the records . mac Ailpin fought for Alba , against those who opposed it .
MacAlpin(dubh)'s bloodline went through duncan, constantine, all the way to Charles II......Fairbarin's Book of crests show the history of the irish scottish and british people through heraldic crests and coat of arms that can be deciphered
My last name is Braziel. My Grandfather had a lot of family history passed down to him through the Male line. Ut was a big deal. I traced my lineage back to a man who came over with a Brit under bandage. His home of record is County Armagh. Supposedly my line decends from Fiachrach Casen. At some point there was a split and writings point to my origin being from Clann Brassil, Ui' Breasail. Is it possible to use my raw dna data to see what marker I am?
El , usually Hebrew roots , hmm
that Maurice FitzGerald Viking ancestry has nothing to do w/Normans (William, etc). Dublin was founded in 841 by Vikings (originally as "Dubh Linn" which means "black pool".
The Normans were Vikings who had settled in France. “North Men”.
Im mostly Norwegian, 3rd gen American but im also R-L51. Why is this?
Can old markers pop back up with new birth?
Yes.
35:44
Are O’Connor and O’Connell connected?
Different clans.
No .totally different.
What about the Walsh family???
The Irish language version of Walsh is "Breathnach" which denotes a person of Welsh descent. Knowing the Irish language name may be of help researching family. Good luck!
read the book Rob Quin it says everything about Irish DNA
You misplaced the Tuatha. They would have come to Ireland after the Fur Bolgs "people of the bag" and the Fomhóraigh would have been the hunter gathering natives. They are the original inhabitants of Neolithic Ireland or the Fomhóraigh are the Gods of the Neolithic people. Take your pick.
Warlock Vex when you write about people who were later (wrongfully, of course) deified by illiterate, uneducated peasants, you need to put quotation marks around "gods" (with a small "g", of course), since the ["s] refer to mythic and/or nonexistent beings.
ALWAYS someone who finds fault. ALWAYS.
@Know Name, actually when those Gods have archaeological inscriptions at ancient temples in places of worship during pre-christian times that strongly suggest that they were not created into godhood by peasants. Those "people" who wrote the stories as we know them today were all Catholic Monks. Do the math ... Eagna An Darach "Wisdom of the Oaks" which is where you get the titles of Druid and Banduri are of a tradition that is likely at least 11,000 years old. I know a lot more than most on the subject, good luck.
this is my lineage Quinn,Dunne, McEarney
did a ancestry DNA Fascinating. I am Norse on mother side , 53% Irish,17 Scandinavian,11 % British,14 Western Europe,No East Europe,no Trace elements. 100% European..American
I'm a Quinn facebook.com/G.D.Joe317
Is it possible the Firbolg were remnants of Neaderthals, or modern humans with a larger amount of Neanderthal DNA?
Pup314 yep that is my thoughts exactly. The I m 223 haplogroup is a huge marker of Neanderthal DNA in Northern Europeans which have the highest amounts
BTW , I am from OConnor / Ui Conchobhair stock , and McDonald GalGael , history whether genetic or historical is always a fresh breathe of air I feel !
I am distantly descended from Ui Tuale (sp?) O'Toole family, though my most recent Irish ancestry is from the Furlongs who were originally English (possibly also married into Welsh families along the borderlands), but married into the Irish royal families and sided with the Irish against the English monarchy. The Furlongs ended up emigrating to Halifax, Nova Scotia in the 1780-90s (before the Great Potato Famine) and immediately resettled to Limerick, ME.
Might also explain the Dwarces of the Norse and other monsterous humanoid legends in so many countries and cultures.
I've also thought this for years! !
They're referred to as "more archaic, frightening, and down the pecking order than the iberians, quite an insular group, but with great specialist ancient knowledge that was often sought after in a grudgingly respectful manner"
Murphy is the most popular name and you have no data on it am I missing something here
great presentation, but...ooh, at 40:04 and again at 40:20, when he's talking about the "Lords Butler" he mentions a remaining member of the family? The earldom went extinct in 1846 but at this English estate there's a "Viscount Mountgarret", etc. He mispronounces viscount as if it rhymed with "discount", not w/the silent "S" (VI-count). Other than that, terrific presentation!
One of the lost 10 tribes
roscoe barney that has intrigued me my entire life. Will we ever learn?
One of the greatest lineage to be a part of with a rich history..
that's just another myth used to propagate Judaism & other related cults.
so, I got my DNA back. Haplogroup starts with L. Then L3, then N, then R, then U, maternal hapolgroup being U5b2c. so I get this back, they tell me I orginated from the berber north african peoples, I'm Spanish Basques, German, French, Scandinavian, Irish, Scottish, English. I'm a relative of the cheddar man, from the indigenous saami peoples of the Laplands, related to Hong Yu a governor during the silk trade maybe Eurasian. my ancestry is full of the above people except the Asian man Hong YU, perhaps i need to look deeper. Anyway where do the Quigleys come from?
Kimberly Bates please tell me how you learned this. I am a lay person beginning to study and thought dna painter would be a place to start? Any advice to gain so much insights as you?
Ha ha ha...Cheddar man with Sa[l]ami on Rye! LOL!
Spanish Basques (like me) are the very first settlers in Ireland and Britain so it is not surprising. Excuse them, they call it "British Islands": czcams.com/video/KgqjLMESS78/video.html
@@newhuskytwenty my family is Basque The Murphys are said to be the original Irishman it is the most popular name.
thats the Moor dna that runs though much of the isles and most of southern europe..."cheddar man" and the "picts" were darkskinned (black) europeans ....east asian Moors called scythians also were all over the isles ....some good books are Ancient and Modern Britons, the Negro Rulers of Scotland and Ireland, and Ireland Ur of The Chaldees , and Fairbarin's book of crests of great ireland and the british isles (thousands of family crests and coats of arms), Race has no color-lines by J.a. rogers and .......Jacobite Gleanings will show you a ship logs with detailed accounts of each passenger of irish descent deported by oliver cromwell....seems like the catholic reforms..... deported mainly mixed and black(dark skinned brown not tanned white) irish, moslems, and jews....Im a Moore from the Ó Mórdha line with geneology that goes back from John Austin Moore of the revolutionary war all the way past Rory Ó Mórdha .....apparently we still have a lot of research to do on the topic of ancestry...
I am a Larkin. I maybe hiberno norse!
It is spelled progenitor and pronounced pro-gen-ih-tor
Oh, that's just one of so very many pronunciation issues in this presentation. I'm American, too (though I did my post-graduate studies in England), but I know how to pronounce progenitor and Oxfordshire and many of the other words butchered here. And I can understand having difficulty with some of the Irish pronunciations, but progenitor is an English word that's spelled exactly how it's pronounced.
Some tracing of DNA in this presentation were from Turkish peoples. But, Turkey is only 100 years old. How is it possible that there were DNA transfers from Turks since they didn't appear on the continent until 1100 AD? It is extremely flawed to even suggest that Turks transferred their DNA when they didn't even exist at the time periods referenced.
What was Turkey called in 1100 AD?
Vahe Ohanian I glad you asked because I learned of the Turkic tribes. Scholars debate whether their origin was Han or Mongolian. Centuries later the settled common day Turkey. Finding the comments enjoyable as I learn from questions. And began studying Afghanistan recently wondering where they get such a blending. Green eyes etc. thought perhaps I should learn my own dna first. Because I always assumed Irish either were Iberian ( black irish) or anglo saxon. Clearly , I have much to learn about my Connacht genes. I assumed everyone crossed through England and that probably is collecting many snickers in an advanced study. But we all have to begin learning somewhere .
@@watermelonlalala Rome.
Anatolia
uh, the Turks go a LOT farther back than the 12th century! Their ethnicity predates islam by a long time (which oozed out of some toilet in the 8th century).
What about haplogroup G1? I have it and i have no jewish ancestry..And I am Belgian.
You have Irish?
Then ya have Danite and likely Ashkenazi Jews.
@@bethbartlett5692 No Irish here.
@rgb Brown But that's g2.
@rgb Brown I am Belgian and I have been told it is closer to that of Armenians and Bashkir people.
@rgb Brown No recent foreign ancestors.
EL , traces back to Hebrew roots . Usually .
Strange how the 12th most common name currently is not mentioned at all. Doyle. Did Brad Larkin get slighted by an Irish-Dane woman in his past?
Murphy (Murchadha) is the most popular name and this guy says nothing about the Uineils stealing our titles land and even our history maybe they should steal the fact that the line of David goes through me The Uineils are nothing but horse thieves,
Nice presentation but the pronunciation is really all over the place and just makes it seem a bit slap-dash.
you mean the Irish and British isles...
I'm from Canada, My family names are English and German in origin,
I did my DNA......90% pictish wtf
The one problem with some of this is that it doesn't take into account infidelity.
Tia Tephi , (The Tender twig)& Jeremiah & Torah escape to Ireland - see JAHW Utube☘️🍀☘️
Robert Bairt COME ON! that's all made up fairy stories!! (besides, "Torah" wasn't a person but a bunch of books written between 1000-500 BCE, at the earliest) & "Jeremiah"...there's not even any evidence, archaeological or otherwise, that he was a real person, just like "David" or "Moses" (on which it's pretty much accepted that he was a mythological figure) or Jesus.
@@MrKmanthie You are not up-to-date. The "mythological" hypothesis has been disproven by chantin the time and place o the events, now sources and archaeaology overwhelminly concur with "Bible".
@@MrKmanthie The Bible is God's written Word spoken through the Prophets. Can you disprove even one thing that is in the Holy Written Word of God ?
You are the first person I heard who knew this she married into my family she was the last line of David that's why she came to Ireland for protection
@@MrKmanthie Dam true story Tia and Jeremiah are both buried in Ireland at Tara the most holy place in Ireland.
As far as i know my family history says im Dal Riatan. Im in Renfrewshire. I was told that if you look at the names around the clyde estuary you see our name on various things. Like the Gare loch.. Gar.. Gair... The Gaelic version of my name is Gairbhaith.. also alglisised to Galbraith. Our allies were Lennox and we're cousins to the Mullen.. theres a Mullengar in Ireland. The stronghold was in Dumbarton. This is just family history so i dont know how real it is.
Andrew McGarvey McGreevy in California here
a bit late here but still, there was no invasion from ireland into the west of scotland. that was only theory and myth look up the origins of scots and irish gaels on irish origenes
4000 ans en arrière Y DNA P310 (civilisation Yamna)3500 ans en arrière âge du bronze/arsenic avec Y DNA P311 avec 3 subclades :P312, U106, S1194.3000 ans en arrière Y DNA P312 donne 3 subclades (âge du fer)P312/M65 celte iberianP312/U152 celte italikP312/C282y celtes Atlantique2400 ans en arrière C282y donne 2 branche :L21 le marqueur Y DNA dominant chez les irlandaisDf27 le marqueur dominant chez les basques.Évidemment cela inclus moins densément : breton, Ecosse, Gascogne, Vendée, Cornouaille, Angleterre, Catalogne, pays de Galles, Andalousie.
À noter que le marqueur Y DNA L21 est dominant chez les irlandais suivi en deuxième par DF27 ; et chez les basques la similitude avec DF27 dominant suivi en deuxième par L21.
La mutation C282y du groupe celte Atlantique s'est produite dans le nord de l'Europe continentale (Allemagne/Belgique), 2900 ans en arrière, sans doute à cause d'éléments radio-active contaminants peut-être dans les métaux que ce peuple utilisait et travaillait.
La mutation C282y engendre l'hemochrmatose (maladie de JF.Kennedy), le pic de cette maladie est le pays basque et l'Irlande du nord avec 25% de maladie latente. Elle se caractèrise par l'excès de fer dans le sang. Extérieurement apparition de taches de pigments en l'absence de soleil à cause de l'excès d'hémoglobine.
Chimera
Eber Iber Iberi Iberian Hibernian etc
All old forms of names of Ireland and celts
They mean Hebri Hebrews
@Janette Davis why bother? the OT is just an old, old anthology of writings which were written at disparate times and are nowadays merely cherry-picked through in order to justify just about anything, but mostly genocide, bigotry, intolerance and a sadomasochistic guide to life that is so far from reality it's just silly. And the NT is full of bullshit too: all but 7 of Paul's Epistles are forgeries; 2 Peter is a forgery, the "gospels" are all basically just variations on the one Mark wrote with changes made by the individual other authors to conform to their opinions & Luke is probably a forgery as is Acts.
@Janette Davis what are you? Some kind of Nazi?
iber or ibar means in the Basque language: "valley (with a river)" or "territory that is on the sides of a river". Perhaps some of the ancient inhabitants of Ireland spoke a language relationed of the current Basque language Iberia => "iber (h)erria" => "the people or the country of the valley of the river" in old Iberian language ( herria or erria = people or country in basque language )
@@TheMariepi3 My original people were the Basque Before our name was anglicized it was Murchadha ( the sea warrior) that's why we were called the original Irishman and why its the most popular Irish name.
As far as i can gather in 839 a Pictish army defeated a Scots Army most likely somewhere near Moray. The celebrating Picts where attacked by a Viking Army who wiped the entire Pictish Royal Family out and who went to town rapping, killing and plundering throughout Pictish Territory. The Scot's lost their leader but where obviously better of as the area being destroyed, the men being killed or enslaved by the Vikings were not theirs. Within the resulting power vacuum Kenneth MacAlpine (who's Mother may have been a Pict) became King of the Picts and there where a further four Pictish Kings after him. So domination of the Picts by the Scotts may be a tadd to strong. The Norse were surely the bigger threat as they brought to an end the Kingdom of Dalriata by conquering the Western Isles of Scotland which could of ironically brought or forced the Picts and Scotts together making them more of a problem for the Vikings. All three seem to have similarly got together to deal with the formation of the first nation state England and it's King Athelstan.
While I agree Ireland and the Scottish Highlands have many things in common not all Highlanders (although many are) are descendants of the Irish many are descendants of the Norse, Normans, Flemish, Britons etc.
@Searlait LoughlinIronically the gal Gael areas in Scotland where the last Gaelic stronghold after Gaelic power had been had been wiped out in Ireland by the English. The gal Gaels were known to batter the Scot's or Gaels at a whim forcing the Scots and Picts to join in opposition to these Norse invaders.
@Searlait Loughlin But not the gal Gaels who were more Norse and chased the Scots in shore.
pictish blood ran all the way from Kenneth MacAlpin (dubh), duncan, to his kin Niger Val Dubh, constantine, all the way through charles II .....and Kenneth MacAlpin being of Pict blood is not a "maybe" ....the idea that these groups got wiped out is a sloppy observation....when it seems from history, heraldry, and dna that they have assimilated...by way if indentured servitude or marriage until they were unified under a common cause ....fighting the catholics
Thanks for this presentation. I figured lots out about the destruction of Ancient Ireland and the reality of my family bloodlines. The real Irish bloodlines were switched. They stole our wealth and put us as peasants on small patches of land.
The O ‘Brian Dynasty is the inheritance of the families from the bloodlines from Uí Mháine!
Uí Mháine
I feel ur pain.
It is offensive when these overwhelmingly American presenters don't even bother to learn to pronounce words correctly. He also has spelling mistakes and has made 3 factual mistakes. Not good enough.
He hasn't his historical facts straight as well.
Please pronounce Irish names properly!
Top 13 surnames in Ireland RankNameIrish EquivalentMeaning 1 Murphyó Murchadhasea-battler 2 Kelly ó Ceallaighbright-headed 3 O’Sullivan ó Súilleabháindark-eyed 4 Walsh BreathnachWelshman 5 Smith Mac Gabhannson of the smith 6 O’Brien ó Briainhigh, noble 7 Byrne ó Broina raven 8 Ryan ó Maoilriainking 9 O’Connor ó Conchobhairpatron of warriors 10 O’Neill ó Néillfrom Niall of
the Nine Hostages 11 O’Reilly ó Raghallaigh 12 Doyle ó Dubhghailldark foreigner 13 McCarthy Mac Carthaighloving person.
Larkin not in top 100...Brad.
What's your point?
Christianity was established in Ireland around 150AD and then Scotland (Dalriada) around 180AD after they moved North in Ireland due to drought, then went to Scotland because the Da'an (Pict) were abandoning Hebrew and becoming pagan, Reod went to end pagan practice and not just re-introduce Hebrew but the new thing, Christianity by the time of Queen Elizabeth I we attempted to bring true Christianity back to Scotland/Ireland, but Queen Mary, a Catholic, stood in the way. After Elizabeth with the Stuart's there was no hope and we came to Boston 1635-43 and abandoned our lands in Essex as well as becoming disowned from any Titles.
Humankind, not "mankind", please.
Indigenous North West People ..... The Original Natives of these Lands were original Black Hebrews from Africa. There was no such thing as "The Middle East" back then .. When the Atlanteans (Fallen Angels, Demons) mixed their DNA with the Cave Man, the Neanderthal, from the Caucasus Mountain, they Created the 1st Caucasians, the Irish Berbers and Basques Race .... This is why Neanderthal DNA is not found in the Black Race ...The same thing happened with The Aztecs & Inca's. These Beast of The Field (Caucasians) mentioned in the Torah ... they were created by Satan to supposedly counter & Out do TMH GODS CREATION with of The Black Man from the Soil, and gave him a SOUL and GOD spread them across the entire Earth, with a command of them to protect all GODS Environment Air, Land, Sea Creations. Satan, jealous & knowing this, knowing he can't Create Life or Souls, but he can manipulate them ... so that he did, by Changing the DNA to generate the White Man or Man of (Bad Leprosy) mentioned in the Torah (for a reason) ... This is why the History of Ireland, Scotland, Celtics, really doesn't add up... Revisit the History .. ( The Dark Ages= Black People being Exterminated and driven out of the Land. The Spanish Inquisition, more killing of Black People by Satan's Army from the North, (The so-called Sea People) The Black Hebrew Moors were the inventors of the Maritime Shipping, Ships, Boats across Worlds... This was the Curse put on The Black Hebrews. The White Leopard Skin Hue-Man (void of color) were sent for (only a time) to punish TMH GOD YAH's Chosen People (Black).. those 400 yrs are over now .... it's time for the Punishment to be Switched ... Shalom
Lmao no they weren't
@@Sean-jc6cu lmao Prove me wrong .... lmao
@@lumnaidfrequency9778 lmao no need. Idiots like you will believe folklore anyway. I know my family history that's all that matters
@@Sean-jc6cu Most Folklores has been proven to be Fact ... Like the Biblical Floods & the Island of MU for instance, also so The Black Celtics ... Get Out of Ur Box ... The Universe is Bigger ...
@@lumnaidfrequency9778 lmao well DNA evidence proves this folklore to be false. Sorry