Robin’s Reckoning is very sad
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- čas přidán 9. 07. 2024
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0:00 - i love dick
1:09 - time and trauma
2:44 - Robin’s Reckoning part 1
5:57 - Robin’s Reckoning part 2
8:31 - smiles for all
8:59 - credits
|| mystery song of the day ||
In this farewell
There's no blood, there's no alibi
'Cause I've drawn regret
From the truth of a thousand lies
So let mercy come and wash away
What I've done
I'll face myself
To cross out what I've become
Erase myself
And let go of what I've done
Put to rest
What you thought of me
While I clean this slate
With the hands of uncertainty
So let mercy come and wash away
What I've done
I'll face myself
To cross out what I've become
Erase myself
And let go of what I've done
For what I've done
I start again
And whatever pain may come
Today this ends
I'm forgiving
What I've done
I'll face myself
To cross out what I've become
Erase myself
And let go of what I've done
What I've done
(Na-na, na, na, na-na, na, na)
(Na-na, na, na, na-na, na, na)
Forgiving what I've done
(Na-na, na, na, na-na, na, na)
(Na-na, na, na, na-na, na) - Krátké a kreslené filmy
I love how mad you are at the Batman Batgirl thing. You gotta make a video on it one day. Call it 'MY TRAUMA'
And justified too! I've been mad ever since I found out about it XD
Tbh, that's fans' collective trauma as Timm is the only freak who enjoys the pair
I hate that pairing so much. I'm not a fan of Batman x Talia but at least Batman isn't a back stabbing cougar. So the latter to me is a lesser of two evils and the way their son is born really doesn't help my hate for again the latter.
There's even a recent video done on it by another youtuber who does joke bids for both DC and marvel comics
Edit: Solid JJ is the name
It’s not actually canon
"I used to think that the worst thing in life was to end up alone. It's not. The worst thing in life is to end up with people who make you feel alone." - Robin Williams
This is the first episode of BTAS I ever saw. Had the VHS as a kid. There is a very good reason this episode won and Emmy.
I had that tape too.
i wish i was that old
This was my first episode two. I vividly remember my parent buying it for me
Same here! I still remember when my parents got me that VHS tape and a poster of the Burt Ward Robin. I watched it over and over and over again.
@@vex6298 Trust me, you don't. Enjoy your youth. (Said like a 90 year old)
Dick Grayson was a great character in the DCAU, sadly after sometime he was just left behind
Would be neat to see Nightwing in Justice League
Don't forget the DC animated movie universe they did him super dirty especially in justice league dark apocalypse War at least in the Titans live action series he is the main character and the central focus of the show and they did him Justice
@@johnbeal6114 I'm more annoyed about how he's treated in the Batman and Harley Quinn film. Especially since that's supposed to be canon to BTAS.
@@InReserveProductions well I consider that not canon to the animated series but for me at least in the Titans live action series at least Dick Grayson has been treated right and been done Justice and he's the main character of the show
@@johnbeal6114 he might be a main character but that show is god awful 🤢 Nightwing should have got a animated series when he left and went to Blüdhaven
@@nostalgialounge1597 I don't know what you're talking about Titans is a really good show it has his problems no show isn't perfect but it's to me one of my favorite comic book shows it's in my top 10 my number one favorite right now is Superman and Lois now that show is near perfect but I love the fact that Dick Grayson gets to be the focus of the show and see him grow as a character are we up to him becoming Nightwing and being a leader and a father figure to the Titans shows that the team really needs him and see him grow more to be the leader they need and a mentor and him learning how to be a family with a Titans is it really good show if you don't like it I understand but I love to grow up the characters especially Dick Grayson
First Chapter is called "I love Dick". And we love you too, Implicitly Pretentious!
Dick is probably one of the most tragic characters in the dcau Bruce’s made him go thru so much
Including Bruce going through Dick's girlfriend
Yeah, he slept with his girlfriend.
Yes like sleeping with his girlfriend💀
At least he looked after him as a kid.
If The Batman gets sequel, I really hope the plot take some inspiration from this episode, specially the flashbacks.
Since the first film was about Bruce growing from dark vigilante driven by vengence to symbol of hope,one good way to continue this story would be introducing Robin, showing Bruce bonding with Dick and becoming a father figure to the kid, finding a friend (besides Alfred) to trust with his secret .
The Batman is getting a sequel. It was part of Reeves' contract and they teased a finished script about 2 weeks ago
@@Vegitodraws whose the badguy gonna be?
@@fusiontoa18 They've thrown a few names out, none of them Joker. The ones that keep getting mentioned are the Court of Owls and Hush from what I've seen (not talking about online speculators saying it, talking about the cast/Matt Reeves posting and saying in interviews).
@@chrismdb5686 ah thats cool. Court of owls would be dope
What about Tony Zucco?
Got to appreciate Batman & Grayson's relationship though I don't think anyone ever defended Bruce/Batman having sex with Barbara not to mention it having been a massive betrayal to Jim Gordon
I’ve heard plenty of people defend it. It just feels wrong though. His sidekicks have always been his family, and for one moment he ignores that familiar relationship to do that with her. It feels like a betrayal of everything he has worked so hard to build, and a betrayal of the trust Gordon gives him. Then they don’t even show how destructive that choice could have been, they just brush it off like it’s meaningless fan fiction. It’s bizarre.
@@theradiantdehd3997 I'm not even sure I could defend Batman on that I mean she's almost like his daughter or at least niece
But that's "edgy" and "gritty" and how you show an audience you're not being restrained with horrific child/family friendly bulls*** that can't in anyway be good at anything ever in the history of stories and media. Because NOTHING censored or directed for a younger audience has ever been good ever. ☺.
"Little did he know that his father would sleep with his girlfriend." YIKES. Great video.
Dick Grayson is one of my favorite comic book characters of all time, it was to bad that he faded from the dcau over time
I know right! His voice actor was great and his story arc is more layered than most superheroes who got more screen time! Make it make sense to me..🤔🤨
It'd be great if we could get a solo Nightwing movie to get more people interested in the character but noooooooo studios would rather rehash Batman and Joker
Kinda a shame what happened between Dick and Bruce later on in this universe
That’s all Bruce Timm’s fault. He’s obsessed with the idea of Bruce and Barbara being a couple. He wouldn’t be allowed to make a such controversial change today
Facts 💯
@@Dhampir101980 Goes to show collaboration, restraint, and "censorship" CAN all be good things sometimes. It can really help trim the often unnecessary and off-putting "edge" some writer have. That's why some much "modern" DC content is garbage. You gotta have balance.
@@khrashingphantom9632 totally agree
Yeah, Bruce Timm.had to ruin everything, had he?
Honestly it's sad Dick Grayson's origin stories are mainly shown in the animated series and only shown in one movie.
Dick is the most recurring Robin and people hardly can tell which Robin is under the hood.
Hopefully they retell Dick Grayson's origin in Matt Reeves The Batman sequel.
of all films, batman forever?
@@noti7510 I know man it's insane
today i just realized barbara joined as dick left and they never worked together it was tim and jason
@@ChikunNuggles in what universe are you referring to?
What a great redemption arc for batman as a father. Too bad he went on to sleep with his son's girlfriend.
Best ongoing joke of all of your batman videos. XD
F*** My head canon outweighs that ridiculous bulls***! So horrifically off-putting and really stunk of "this is REAL DC!" nonsense plaguing the modern day DC discourse.
It was terrible thing especially when Bruce use to babysit barbera
@@mangareader7474 I just don't understand why they wrote that. Absolutely terrible! Lol
Thank God that was reconned
Hopefully
I loved that this entire relationship helped build up the Robin in Teen Titans who was also very cold and serious despite leaving exactly because of that.
Rest in Peace Kevin Conroy you always be the Batman in our hearts.
Since you mentioned Zucco's voice, I'm just going to say he's played by the same actor as Biff from Back to the Future lol
Yes. I also notice his name on the end credit.
@@JE-wg3jv Assuming that's sarcasm, not everyone would recognize him by name, so I just mentioned it's the same actor.
He was also in legends of tomorrow as Nate’s dad!
The saddest part of the episode of the episode for me is in the flashback when Dick asks if the hurt goes away and Bruce says "I wish I could say yes but it will get better for you" basically telling him he'll be able to move past his parents deaths but Bruce won't.
dick grayson will always be one of the most interesting characters, the boy who suffered even more than bruce, but always tries to be the better version of himself
And actually got over his trauma
Sometimes your videos feel like a form of therapy.
@Man Leeman
I can feel that as I'm getting over Kevin Conroy's death. Among dealing with other things.
This. THIS right here is why I think Robin/Dick Grayson as a character is so important to the Batman mythos and why it irks me when he’s left out sometimes like he doesn’t exist in certain incarnation’s. In so many symbolic way’s Dick IS Bruce. They’ve shared the same traumatic experience’s and have both felt anger and vengeance towards their parents murderer, but found that justice over vengeance is the true way in their own form. And that although Bruce was emotionally absent which was his major flaw as a parental figure, he still did all he can to make Dick better than him despite being the same by giving him a new home and family while Bruce was alone and only had Alfred to turn to when his parents died. In a way he truly is his son and why I personally think he’s the definitive candidate to become the next Batman when Bruce either croak’s or retires the cowl.
I fucking feel you on the Batman with Batgirl thing....
Bro i haven't even watched the video yet, but I gotta say this is my favorite episode, and it is what made me love Dick Grayson. I'm 18 now, and an only child, and although I am blessed to have never had the tradegy of losing my parents, I know what pain feels like. But like Dick, I'm the type of person to get up and keep smiling. I relate to Grayson in a way. I'm glad you're putting the focus on him. I had kind of a rough day, but I guess this was a good reminder to do what I do best. Thanks, man.
Edit: HE SAID IT HE SAID THE T WORD
Tet
Never say never you could lose your parents tomorrow
Coincidentally, Tony Zucco is voiced by Thomas F. Wilson in this episode while the character is voiced by Mark Hamill in the 2004 series. Wilson and Hamill both portrayed major characters in the Wing Commander games.
BIFF TANNEN.
I love Robin, yet I've always had an unexplained feeling that Bruce letting a kid fight with him doesn't make sense...
I do love Bruce being an absent parent, that does love Dick yet has to go on missions at night without Dick knowing why, and so he feels a bit of guilt, and gradually opens up and becomes a better parent as well as person. That puts the entire Batman myth into a mew interesting perspective of Dick introducing love into Bruce's life, instead of the usual "love interest".
However, I still don't understand how he lets a kid fight with him
Right! If he gets hurt really bad or kills someone bruce is culpable
Love interest?
Especially considering how well it ended for Jason...
This, ten times this.
@@fusiontoa18 They meant that in these kinds of stories, a love interest is usually introduced to change the path of the hero from one of vengeance and darkness into one of love, but in the Batman mythos what actually does that is having a son figure. Someone he has to teach and take care of.
That ending remark of Bruce and Barbara had me dying. XD
I love the end line so much. How a bad writer can ruin a previous story because they didn't think about the implications. Not that it still wouldn't have been more than a bit creepy.
This episode is why I loved Dick Grayson’s Robin growing up
I remember this episode somewhat vividly which is why I love Nightwing as a character. It really is tragic what happens btw him and Bruce later on.
Dick just casually doing the akira slide
I thought i was the only one who caught that lol
That last line before the outro earned the subscription!
2:10 - Well, hello AKIRA bike scene. I wasn't expecting to see you here.
I'm old enough to remember how huge it was that this was released as a prime time special. It was insane and it ended up being so good!
This video had the best ending line of all your videos
You should make a series where you examine who is the best successor to Bruce as Batman, i'd love to see your take one it
It's Terry for sure
You can't help bringing up Barbara and Bruce's intimacy. 😂😂
Bruce Timm makes great Batman animation, but he keeps pushing his creepy Batman-Batgirl fanfiction every chance he gets
Man i cant wait to watch the rest of this universe
Dick: Does the hurt ever go away?
Bruce: I wish I could say yes. But it will get better in time, for YOU. That I promise.
- Why do I bring this up? Because Implicitly Pretentious has a pretentious habit of excluding it. I wonder why..
- Well, let's see. In this very moment Bruce makes a promise to Dick, one that he aims to keep. He wants to bring Zucko to justice so that Dick doesn't suffer the same fate that he does, not being able to find justice for the murder of his parents. Bruce has always been seeking the man who killed his parents, he has dwelled on this his entire life. This desire to find justice for the murder of his parents isn't only his strength, but his weakness. He doesn't want Dick to dwell on Zucko, to seek him out and take vengeance upon him rather than justice, he wasn't just scared of Zucko taking him from him (as selfish as this sounds), he's worried about Zucko pushing him over the line, because in Batman's eyes, that would be "taking him from him". Dick is someone who Batman views as pure of heart, Dick murdering the man who killed his parents in an act of vengeance is in a lot of ways Batman's worst fear in that moment, I think Batman would be more horrified by the thought because he would see himself in Dick, because Batman knows that if he ever caught Joe Chill he'd be on the edge, and whether or not he'd go over is a toss of a coin.
- Reality is that Bruce was right in the end. It did get better for Dick, in a lot of ways, he's the better Bat"MAN", but not the best BATMAN.
8:57 Why did you remember me that
Unrelated, but I like how you say "Dickses" half the time in every Robin video, implying that his name is sometimes Dicks lol
8:56🤣🤣🤣🤣 changed my whole mood lol.
Now, I don't mind Dick and Barb together, but I think Dick's happier overall with Starfire and the other Titans anyway.
Kori is the light in the darkness for Dick, I totally agree! Dick has three families, the Graysons, the BatFam, and the Titans.
ROBINS RECKONING, OVER THE EDGE, OLD WOUNDS, SUB ZERO, some of my favorite animation
Ohmygod, that stinger before the credits, I can't. 😂
Yeah, the DCAU did a lot of great things, but there were some choices that were just... why? And that was definitely one of them.
One of my favorite takes on Batman is that he's using "Robin" to keep Dick from becoming as angry and bitter as Bruce himself is. So when he says "I thought he might take you, too", he may not just mean "your life" but "your soul" if Dick were indeed to attempt to kill Zuko.
As someone who is named after this character, these episodes were by far my favorite, and really solidified him as my all time best boi in the bat family
I fucking love this series. Never stop making these analysis vids
These DCAU videos are honestly so awesome man, keep it up!
This is hands down my favorite episode in BTAS
Ive really enjoyed the dcau videos keep em comming
I suppose in a thematic sense, Robin was also the beginning of forcing Batman to work with others rather than have others work around him. It was the beginning of Batman learning to be a part of a family again. That though he always had his father alfred, now he would have brothers, sisters, sons and daughters as part of the superhero community in due time too. And Dick was the first to begin that recontextualizing.
I hope u know what a nostalgic and comforting vibe ur videos have
Easily one of my new favorite subscriptions!
I love all these DCAU videos
OMG that last comment took me out. Love your content, and I hope you keep it up. :)
I loved that ending. I love your work man glad I found it
Holy cow batman, your content is amazing!
That ending gets you a like lol
Wow your line about how Dick has two conflicting self narratives-the boy who lost his parents, and the boy who found a father-and they both tie to Tony Zucco and collide in the present is SO GOOD. Gave me goosebumps, man!
random fact i found out recently, 2:11 is apparently a reference to the "Akira bike slide" you may have seen it in other media as well, good piece of trivial knowlegde you could share with your friends
Thankfully Im pretty sure that Batman sleeping with Barbra isnt canon in the DCAU anymore
It’s still canon within Anything Batman related that Bruce Timm has hand in, such as the killing joke adaptation. He’s the one that keeps pushing it
The ending tho 🤣
"Sleeps with his girlfriend"
I'm nervous about the psychological effects of that happening in the bat family 😂
You should be more nervous about that happening in your own family
@@fusiontoa18 Nah I'd have to have a girlfriend in order for that to happen, besides if I did have one i mean come onnnn its batman i wouldnt blame her.
@@tj2078 your father is batman!?
@@fusiontoa18 crap don't tell Alfred he's scarier then Batman
@@tj2078 indeed his sarcasm cuts deep
Two of the greatest BTAS episodes ever!
Anyone that says they want to be Batman really doesn't understand his character. He is a dark, tragic, and just very sad man. He never healed from his trauma, but fortunately he was able to help someone else through theirs. Dick Grayson is someone worth aspiring to be, he went through the worst pain and tragedy but learned to bounce back and still see the good in life. As Robin, he trained with the best and learned all the skills to be on par with the legendary Batman. He's proven this several times over. But he still has the heart and character that all of us should strive towards. Bruce even once said that Dick is the embodiment of what Batman should be
Oh my god, that last line, I CACKLED
It' has always upset me that Bruce was afraid of Zucco hurting Dick. We see how easily Robin take his parents murderer down. Batman simply can't see how capable he is.
It thought it was more like push him over the edge and kill him. Making him a murderer
That ending! Hahaha. Great vid.
I love this video I can’t wait for the next spiderman retrospective
I think the whole "Bruce is Dick's dad" thing is overplayed. There's a reason Bruce never officially adopted Dick (until he was a grown man, symbolically). Bruce respected John and Mary Grayson too much to presume the role of Dick's father. Plus, in most versions, Bruce is only like 10 to 15 years older than Dick. Not quite old enough to be his father.
Thing is that is the relationship they have like it or not. Even if it's not part of the animated series, Teen Titans Robin basically confirms this with his line "I already have a father" to slade
Alfred is very underrated no one ever talks about him
It's the greatest Robin story EVER told. In any media. This is THE Robin origin story. Even Dick as a kid saving the hooker from her pimp is *chef's kiss perfection.
Also, just do the Barbara and Bruce video already. There is so much meat on the bone there. Especially with the dynamic of their relationship in Beyond that would have never been repaired if it wasn't for Terry.
Fun fact: This is the first example of an animation doing the Akira motorcycle slide as homage to the movie, Akira.
Give this guy an award
I love watching these even if I haven’t watched the DCAU
I really miss a batman who could smile
great stuff
Yo that last line 😭
loved it
“He’s the dark angel of death maaan, and he wants me!” - Tony Zucco🤣🤣🤣
Haha that last line dude lol
0:28 bro, who doesn't
wait
The way you keep bringing up the fact that in this universe, Batman sleeps with his girlfriend cracks me up😂
I support the suggestion of a "MY Trauma" vid about Bruce x Babs
0:27- 0:31
You couldn't resist could you...?
Where Bruce embraced his loss as batman, Dick overcame his loss as Robin and then later Nightwing. That's why batman thinks of him as his greatest success, because Dick accomplished what Bruce failed to do.
So uh...how much DC animated stuff have you watched in the last 3 months?
Feels like the answer is "all of it" XD
The Batman-Batgirl thing still makes no sense to this day
The whole Bruce and Barbara thing should honestly just be erased completely, maybe in the original original comics where Dick is a kid and Barbara is much closer to Bruce's age that works, but right now Bruce is the age that could pass as Barbara's father, twice her age and not only that, Barbara is the daughter of Bruce's best friend and his son's technically ex-girlfriend, not to mention as Batgirl she's essentially an apprentice and at some points Bruce was like a second father so yeah its fucked up
I'm glad you told me it was sad. Or else I wouldn't have noticed
I’ve never personally considered Batman’s sexual relationship with Barbara Cannon
I mean, they obviously were at some point prior to the death of Joker.
The miscarriage stuff added later is peak edgelord. As much as I hate it, the Cadmus reveal in Epilogue has a story and thematic point.
Barbara having a miscarriage actually undermines Bruce's emotional detachment *that was the intended point of why he became the man in Beyond*.
I bursted out laughing when he said "it's crazy how this one rich guy is scaring this poor neighborhood🤣🤣..... and that end quote was hilarious too 😂
He didn’t just sleep with her. Remember, they added him knocking her up, and in the crippling attack by the Joker, she had a miscarriage.
Damn…
NOOO THE TWIST ENDING!!
This episode is still remains one of my favorites and this was the one that gave Batman the animated series the first Emmy win Dick Grayson was such a fascinating character seeing later on in the DC animated movie universe they did him super dirty especially in justice league dark apocalypse War but at least the live action Titans show he's the main character and the central focus and they did him Justice and the actor that's playing him I forgot his he's really good as Dick Grayson easy the best life action version of him today sorry Burt Ward and Chris O'Donnell I've already forgot his name but he is so awesome as Dick Grayson on the Titans TV show
0:28 , and just like that, you got me
The first chapter is what I relate to
Batman knew about what Zuccho did to Dick Grayson’s parents tragic at the circus and didn’t want to tell Robin in painful resason and went thru enough and also refuse to allow him to tag along in thats not particularly because he reacts in haste and wanted to dealt with out of reckless emotion drama which is why Bruce is being protective to Dick not only true friend but also father figure that never with before (til TNBA’s in the opposite path😏)
That ending hits. Lmao
I love in these videos that you keep destroying the Batman batgirl thing😂
As it's only fair.
Please do a Young Justice video on the complexities of the relationship between sisters Tigress and Cheshire…along with their parents Sportsmaster and Huntress. 🙏🏽