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My Ineos Grenadier - Dimensions, Stowage, Cargo
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- čas přidán 8. 08. 2024
- official and measured values plus a description of all the stowage areas.
Hope I cover all the data you need.
0:00 Intro
0:23 Dimensions
2:15 Weights
3:06 Cargo Area
5:45 Folded Seats
7:00 Stowage Areas
Thanks, it is nice to so a Grenadier being "used"... At a guess, I am still four months from delivery, but these little teasers keep me slightly happy... seeing the unit dirty and lived in is, well a Grenadier in its natural habitat!
trying my best to keep you happy over the next few months ;-)
Thanks for taking the time to do these vids Ingemar. I hope we get to see some of your trips into the mountains, show us where you're interested in going with the Grenadier!
negotiating with my boss to get more time off to do some proper trips ;-). will definitely make some videos. planning some nice adventures soon...
I like how easily accessible the front seat storage is
the whole car is quite ergonomic
I'm sure it would be easy enough to find a bag that would fit right under the seat to hold a bunch of kit, nice and neat.
@@BryanPike definitely
Thank you, you covered what I was looking for
Glad it was helpful!
It’s amazing, I have a order a trial Master fully loaded for overland. It would be nice if there is a seat delete kit/ parts just like the standard two door van Ineos. It will make it more spacious back with maybe place to sleep.
according to the engineers it shouldn't be too difficult to remove the seats. you would get a level surface all the way to the front seats. you just need to cover the electrics/batteries under the rear seats somehow.
Enjoying your videos, I finally got to drive one (Us reservation holder) about a week ago offroad. Such a cool vehicle, can't wait to finalize my order and, hopefully within a year (ugh), actually have one in the driveway! Keep us posted on any of the negatives/unexpected things as well. Wish we could get the diesel here, but we'll make do w/the gasser.
Hope you get it sooner! Of course I will point out negative things as well.
I went for the diesel because it has a "smoother" performance when towing trailers (acc. to the engineers). And I had a similar engine in my previous ride....I loved it.
Indeed one of the best true offroad that we can buy now!!!
New sub! Thank you for taking the time to make such an informative video. I was wondering what the measurement of the seat height was, from the ground to the top of the sitting surface. Thank you so much! Keep them coming!
i will measure that once back with my car!! (currently working abroad 🤷🏻♂️)
@@grenadier_exploring Thank you so much!
it is ~100cm from the ground. and you can adjust it +-5cms (from the car floor it's 30cm +-5)
@@grenadier_exploring Thank you so much for this detailed answer! It is very helpful for me to know.
You Should do an in-depth review of the interior and the audio system, etc. next, good vids!
exactly that video is in the making right now...talking about/showing the Infotainment, switches etc. coming very soon ;-)
Thanks 🙏. Regarding the plastic used for the utility belts and wheel arch guards. It was mentioned in a previous video that it looked faded or not of good quality. Have you found that they have changed or faded from when you first took delivery?
i can see a small difference between the plastic around the door handles and the adjacent utility-belt. I have been told they had issues since the supplier came from Ukraine and they had to change it. Since I got a very early model, the plastic might not be the quality they are aiming for, but those things should be fixed during my first service.
The rest (wheel arches etc.) still looks good! keep u updated on that...
Can you mount two spare wheels, on the rear tailgate doors?
Thank you for all this user's information, especially with regards carrying or travelling with a dog.
Do you think the Grenadier would be better if it was offered with a Long Wheel Base version, like the old Land Rover 130 Defender, to give you extra seating or extra storage space in the rear load area?
Hi Ingemar. Thank you for doing these videos. I am enjoying them greatly.
A question for you: is that fire extinguisher and its bracket an Ineos factory option? Or a standard fitment? I didn't see it on the options list when I ordered mine here in Australia.
Thanks again!
it is part of the "roadside emergency kit plus", which is standard with the Trialmaster Edition
Great videos…can you make one that discusses and shows the exterior power outlets at the roof with the plastic covers? I’m curious on how weather proof they are if the Grenadier is stored outside for years (rain/snow) and how well the covers stay on.
absolutely. will try to include that.
so far they hold well and i had no issues
Does anyone know the exterior roof length from behind the safari windows to the very back of the vehicle ?
Hey Ingemar, Thanks for the great videos! US Early reservation holder here. I've seen in the UK PDF owner's manual that there was a 12v "cigar" power outlet in the center console, but you didn't mention it when you showed the two USB connections. I have not seen any photos of the inside of the compartment, so I was just curios if there is a 12V power outlet in there? Thanks! -Alan in Tucson, Arizona, USA
I've seen a PT02 in the flesh and yes there is one there. A 2nd socket is supplied in the cargo area on the LHS if you option the Power Pack.
Hello Alan. Mark is absolutely correct - one in the center stowage box and one in the cargo area! Forgot to mention that but there is a video coming about the Infotainment system, and the electric switch panel which will include the power outlets.
Cooles Outfit 😊
gell 😉😎🤪
Hi nice video! is your model 'Utility wagon' version? how is the space of 2nd row seat? is leg room too small to sit?
it’s a trialmaster edition! in this one, the legroom in the second row is good
Hi lngemar again a good insight to the inside of the vehicle, just wanted to ask, did you go, for 17inch/or 18inch wheels, and why?.from Steve near Chester England 🏴 where the Roman's once lived.
Hello Steve. I went for the 17inch wheels because I am planning some proper off-roading. In this case I have the most rubber on the rim and the tires/rims should be at lower risk of getting damaged.
Ingemar from Carinthia where basically everyone once lived ;-)))....romans, slavic, germans, turks,...,-))
@@grenadier_exploring 🤣yes I agree with that, I will go for the 17inch as well, it was one of my son's that suggested the 18inch, thinking bigger is better, I don't think so from an offloading point of view! From Steve near Chester England 🏴 where the vikings, might of visited!!!_ _______Now you never had them in Carinthia🤔🤣👍, cheers for the reply.
Hi Ingemar, what kind of cargo net are you using? I like the way you can use it in two positions, behind the 1st or the 2nd seat row.
it's the cargo net supplied by ineos. got it for the dog, just in case i haven't got the dog crate with me. i might show it in detail in my next 10k review 😅
Is there any modification you want to do with the car? And what is it? Thanks for your videos!
there are!
I am already designing a roof rack which doesn't restrict the function of the safari windows.
Adding a roof top tent, an awning, a camping kitchen for the back, recovery boards and jerry can holders.
and let's see what else I wanna have after a while.
I will try to cover those modifications in later videos as well...
Nice talk through..
Will you be doing one on the infotainment system. Android connection would be great 😉
in the making! unfortunately i don't have android but i guess carplay and auto are similar?! maybe i can get a phone for a demo...
@@grenadier_exploring not a fruit based phone user 🤦🏻
Only joking!
Loving the content, keep it up!
;-))). I am working on the Infotainment video right now. I´ll check if I can connect my company phone to the car....that one is non-fruit-based ;-)
Hi. Thanks for this. Yoir volume is a little low. Please find a way of jumping it up.
i will check
Thanks for sharing. Is there any space under the rear seats? Did you chose the 2nd battery as an option? Would be curious how that is integrated into the car system (i.e. does it show in the car display, etc.). Cheers.
Hello Leo! If you get the second battery, there is NOT a lot of space under the rear seats left. I did chose it and located two small empty spots. The Infotainment system has a page for the battery as well. I will show the compartment under the seats, the Infotainment sys and the high load auxiliary panel switches in the next few videos ;-)
@@grenadier_exploring Awesome. Looking forward to it. If you had a thought process comparing it against other systems (e.g. Redarc) pls share. I would also be interested how you can 'control' it. i.e. only have certain loads run from the 2nd battery. Is solar charging for 2nd battery an option? Thanks in advance.
i am unfortunately not an expert when it comes to electrics. always asked a "pro" for a proper solution. BUT the system manages itself so there is always enough power to start the engine and it schedules the loading of the second battery as well. The is only one control to switch the second battery on when the car is off. I will try to dig in and check with an engineer to have a better understanding of the system and its possibilities. I want to connect it to solar panels as well!!! keep u posted/updated
@@leobuerk380 INEOS is using a CTEK 120S SmartPass device to link both batteries together, which enables an automatic charging of the 2nd battery when the engine in running. And it charges automatically the 1st battery from the 2nd battery in order to keep the starter battery fully charged almost all the time.
If you plan to add solar charging, you can easily add a CTEK D250SE device, this has an solar input and will charge the 2nd and 1st battery from a solar panel.
@@Dieter.Reuter thanks for the info :) They are both AGM batteries, correct? No Lithium for the 2nd one?
Hey Ingemar, do you know if the USB connections and other power outlets are connected to the second battery ? Thx !
just double-checked in the car. The two power outlets (central stowage and cargo) and the two USB outlets in the passenger row are powered by the second battery.
@@grenadier_exploring Thx a lot for double-checking, precious information!
An Ineos Rep at the prototype tour driving event told me that the utility belt is commonly known as an “L-Track” and by further research I believe it is the airplane grade. It is considered a very common standard used in logistics & shipping to keep cargo stored securely . I have not found many consumer products that use it, yet. Has anyone else found such products for camping ?
Hi, if you are looking for ‚Airline Schienen‘ or ‚Zurrschienen‘ you can find a lot of different fittings, however there are actually no camping products on the market. I am looking for a camping table that fits directly on the Grenadier doors.
@@Rick-ht4vl I’m glad I’m not alone in failing to find any products. Over time the aftermarket will catch up. One reason may be that no other manufacturer has a.vehicle with such a utility belt feature.
Black sheep innovations in DE (I think!) will have a range soon. Have seen a table for door rails. Looks excellent
Black Sheep Innovations already has a camping table for the Grenadier´s utility belt. They only showed it on Social media for now (facebook)...
Yes, it is very common in the airline industry...from mounting the passenger seats to tie down cargo. there is quite a few accessories out there using the system. I built myself a bicycle carrier for the cargo space using the airline fittings! I like them
Hi great video can you post a video when you get the draws in the back please
Dave in the UK
hi dave.
there‘s one already online where I talk about the drawers at 3:55:
czcams.com/video/V92uTgFmLVE/video.htmlsi=_XWfDQFBB9ZCc98w
another one, including the whole overland setup is „My Ineos Grenadier - Ready for our next Adventure“
and last but not least, the one from the manufacturer (that‘s the most detailed):
„Tailgate Gear - Grenadier Trialmaster Walk-Around“
also featuring me and Thor…
here‘s the link to the last one:
czcams.com/video/BJIuXd1ZK-o/video.htmlsi=XyQv52s4phORQpZt
Thanks for info 👍
2,9 tons is a heavy beast ! 🙄
it is. but it doesn't feel like that when driving!!
the weight ranges from 2629kg to 2811kg (without the winch) depending on your version. it is built like a tank 🤣
Hi there, I understand that it is built like a tank, that promises a strong car.
But that is not always a pro when you are driving off road !
For example, when driving uphill in muddy or sandy terrain, a lighter vehicle performs much better.
Another con is the tax problem in my country the Netherlands.
For a car with diesel engine, with a weight of 2700 kgs, one has to pay monthly 320 euros road-tax !
And when you want to buy a new Grenadier, there is an extra tax for new cars, based on CO2 output.
A Grenadier costs here 170.000 euros new !!! Yes, you read it right !
So I would have to wait for the electrical Grenadier, that would be available in 3 years or so.....
I don´t understand the weight. What did the engineers think. I bought a new Land Cruiser 78 (GRJ78). 2,1 t empty, build like a tank. Now it's a expedition vehicle fully kitted out, roof conversion etc., bull bar, winch, big tires, inside everything for a 4 week remote trip. 2,9 t. And much cheaper.
hi thanks for everything! could you be son nice to tell me which dog box fits godd in it? with this emeasurements? Thanks
sorry nochmla auf Deustch. Habe einen ähnlich großen Hund und wollte fragen, welche Box da gut reinpasst.
die maße der box sind: 68X66x93,5cm (BxHxT)...die marke sag ich dir morgen...
4pets eco 4 L ist das Modell...hier ist der link zur HP:
www.4pets-products.com/ecoline-hundebox.html
und diese box passt perfekt von der tiefe her 😎
Great video, thanks for the show. You anywhere close to Graz?
yes. only 50-60mins away...in Carinthia/Kärnten
@@grenadier_exploring Wow, that is so cool. We are in Thal when visiting, would be great to buy you a pint. I have a Trialmaster on reserve. We flew to Phoenix for a test drive and really am impressed by how plush the ride is and how solid the vehicle feels. Live in Dallas area so we should get ours for Christmas, can't wait. Thanks again for your videos. Lee
how often are you here? I am always up for a pint ;-).
it's true...the car feels super solid and safe! Whenever I jump in, I am feeling relaxed
@@grenadier_exploring We usually go to my Aunts birthday in early March. We will be at the Pub in London in Dec this year to toast to our new purchase.
nice. I've been there 2 months ago ;-).
Could you tell me the distance from the back of the safari windows to the back of the truck. I’m interested in seeing if my roof top tent will inhabit the opening of the safari windows. Cheers!
yes. that would be roughly 205cm (81inches)
Thanks so much!
My Autohome tent is 210 cm long.
@@jhgillette placing it sightly to the back (3-4cm should be enough to be able to open them. You have to check how that looks...
Are these vehicles coming to the States?
yes, they are.
a video with child carseats or kids climbing in would be wonderful
the car has the isofix system. maybe i can borrow a few kids somewhere and make a video ;-)
Ineos Grenadies would be a perfect vehicle for me. But there is one deal breaker. It does not have a manual transmission option.
yes. the engineers decided against that option cause they say the combination of the BMW engine and the ZF-8-speed transmission is perfect. and i have to agree. had it in my previous car as well and i loved it.
and you can still shift “manually” via the gear lever.
but of course, that’s no option for an enthusiast who loves a manual transmission…
und noch eine Frage : ist der Campingtisch schon da??
leider noch nicht....hab aber diese Woche noch ein Gespräch mit meinem Händler....dann sollt ich mehr wissen....
@@grenadier_exploring meiner eben auch noch nicht
🙈 verstehe. sag bescheid wenn ihn hast...
Not exactly flush with storage options! Maybe that’ll just make it tidier than my current car 😂
;-)
Why not 5m x 2m x 2m give it that extra space in the rear seats. How is it not rated 3500kg with 3500kg trailer so train weight 7000kg. Can it get a Euro Pallet in the rear. The worst issue is no portal axle, no CTIS, no air suspension and no middle front seat. Great shame as its a G Wagon with Defender issues.
I can't answer the question regarding dimensions/portal axles etc.
- it IS rated 3500kg +3500kg = 7000kg total
- you can fit a euro pallet in the utility version of the car
- it has no air suspension for reliability and repair reasons according to Ineos
greets, Ingemar