WHERE do pilots DUMP FUEL? part 2 Explained by CAPTAIN JOE
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Dear friends and followers welcome back to my channel and to a frequently asked question, "Where do pilots dump fuel?" There are many rumours about this question as many passengers have the impression that pilots dump fuel just prior to landing to reduce the overall weight and therefore pay fewer airport charges. This is complete nonsense and I'm more than happy to show you where pilots dump fuel or jettison fuel, following up on the video why pilots dump fuel!
I'll show a real-life example via an ATC recording by VASAviation. I'll go through the dumping procedure step by step regarding the ATC conversation. You'll get a better understanding on how pilots communicate with ATC. What rules and regulations apply once the fuel dumping is commenced.
Another important question regarding fuel dumping does it harm the environment? Yes, it does, but studies have shown the changes in the atmosphere are negligible as the fuel immediately vaporizes behind the aeroplane dumping at high altitude.
Also, see how a British Airways B777 was wanting to dump fuel over Ireland but was initially rejected by the air-traffic controller due to traffic flying below their route.
Thank you very much for your time! I hope you enjoy this video!
Wishing you all the best!
Your "Captain" Joe
Big thank you to all other youtubers who provided me with the video material to create this video. Your content is highly appreciated. Please follow their channels:
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I loved the facepalm. That's calling to be converted into a reaction GIF.
you're a stupid arse. called geoengeing not chemtrails these days. next time do it with a chair capt :)
Answer from cia director: czcams.com/video/ZShau-I7Smc/video.html
The idea of using real examples with ATC transcripts was a really good one. I would like to see more such videos.
Then I'd suggest looking up the VASAviation channel they were taken from :P
Or this: czcams.com/video/rEf35NtlBLg/video.html
@Watching Channel i think he got it from VASviation since the logo was in the corner and the channel made a comment indicating they know each other. Its a great channel if you like listening to ATC communications.
16:34 Don't worry the next time you're on a plane and see this:
Don't think I have to worry about seeing one of those anymore!
😭😭😂😂
Yea I guess, since they're somehow bankrupt almost in an instant.
/pedantic mode on, the name was sold of to some chinese company, so you might still see it
Awesome job as always, my friend!! =)
Awww VASAviation!! Ilysm for your great content!!
Thank you for your contribution.
Infinite flight has prepared me for this video:
"You need to be 7000 feet or above to begin fuel dunping"
You can dump fuel in Infinite Flight? That's cool. I wish that was possible in X-Plane 11 as well. At least X-Plane looks good I guess.
lol! same here!
@@nathanaelmalm5641 yeah
I need to renew my sub and get back with the program
Lol
Audio quality is bit bad compared to the previous ones i hope you will correct it in the future
Bought a new mic! Had many issues with this one! Sorry
@@flywithcaptainjoe we love you
Captain Joe Sorry to say the sound was awful and caused a great volume difference with the parts coming from VASAviation. You should really look for a small microphone attached to your tie. This being said, very interesting video! Thanks and bring some more!
yep, clip on will be good so your beautiful voice is more audible, but anyway great vids, keep it up :)
Did the company boss scolded him for dumping tons of money
"A few months back I explained why pilots dump fuel". By a few months back, you mean over 2 years back 😂
Passengers we are a few minutes late.
Well 24= a few
A new time concept. Similar to "new math".
Your videos are the only things that make Thursday an enjoyable day.
I'd love it if you did a video specifically on turbulence. I know you've talked about it before, but one that explains all types, and try to explain the levels of severity and how pilots work to counteract or avoid it.
I got told cargo pilots just don't care about turbulence.
Not a Pilot in this life - But your videos teaches me how the life of a Pilot is !!
Thank you Joe
Love from India - Bangalore
same buddy not a pilot and love from Bangalore, India
I'm a recent follower of your channel and I'm glad that there are people like you who answer a frequently asked questions with linking some knowledge and facts from your answer that are just really nice to know.
Keep the great work up Captain.
Thank you Cap! Always appreciate this type of content, fly safe out there!
That was really interesting. Thank you Capt. Joe.
I loved the combination of the route map, the ATC comm, and your explanation giving the overall picture. More of such, please, it's so vivid.
I have never flown commercially, my dad is a pilot and was in the United States Air Force! I have found your channel recently and I binge watch it! So interesting and fun to watch! I have sent a link to my dad as well! He too LOVES the content! I want to fly commercially now just for the experience 🤷♀️ THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND AMAZING CONTENT!
Thanks for this video. I've seen so many TV shows where the pilot dumps the fuel like it's nothing. I always wondered about the process. This makes me feel a little better.
Thank you for these videos, Captain Joe! I have been absolutely fascinated by them since finding & subscribing to your channel a few weeks ago. I love how you explain everything, even so someone like myself who is not a pilot, can easily understand and even learn from them! Hats off to you good Sir!
I really enjoyed this video Captain Joe! This was fairly easy to understand because of your simple explanation. Thanks!
thanks for everything you do to our aviation comunity. i also use this and the newsletter in school. keep on working grat work. this is something to be proud of!
your videos are so clear, fun and easy to understand
15:11 hahahahah man that facepalm was so natural i died xD
that facepalm tho xD hahhahahahaahaha xDD
These concrete examples are very useful and helpful for us to understand all the flow of fuel dumping. Many thanks, Joe!
I have been subscribed to this channel for 2 years and I am learning something new in every video. I think is is gonna help me when I become and air traffic controller👌🏾🤙🏾
Excellent to use the real world examples. It made everything clear with minimal explanation required. Nice.
Very informative.
Thank you for posting this video.
It answered a few of my questions regarding air craft fuel dumping.
This is an exceptionally excellent video Joe. Thank you!
Another brilliant video Joe and I love the real world ATC examples. Keep up the good work.
The video has been made in a very interesting way. Very impressed the way pilots and everyone involved manage aviation emergencies.
I didn´t notice that you reached 1 million subscribers! Congratulations, you definetly deserve it!! You make so good videos and you´re so good in explaining all that stuff, thank you ! ;)
Great Video Joe 👍 I want to become a pilot after I finish school, seems like a great industry and I am quite an avgeek. Your videos are amazing and are always very interesting! 👍
Terrific explanation, especially the cited examples which were so well explained that one could hardly ask for better. Well done Joe, as per usual, your professionalism and simple clear explanations are truly the best around. I wish I’d had you as a flight instructor in my early flying days tho that would mean we’d have to reverse our ages lol. Again I thank you for such worthwhile videos on all things Aviation and again, I think that your simple explanations of the real life ATC/Aircraft communications was without peer. Truly the best, most understandable that I’ve seen presented and on behalf of us all I’d just like to say “Thank you Joe, great job mate, thank you and please keep it up”
Outstanding video!! Love the actual footage!
Great video, Joe. That was packed with more information than you could shake a stick at!
That chemtrails comment had me dying man. Good stuff.
Yasss finally . I hope to learn a lot from your videos . I am going to apply next year for pilot training!
"The Peacekeeper's" is what? where's the rest of the sentence? (apostrophes make things possesive, not plural). If you were trying to write that there was more than peacekeeper, then it would be "Peacekeepers", not "Peacekeeper's"
Amazing video like always Captain Joe. I've always been with you since 20K subs. You've become the 'doctor mike' of pilots these days on CZcams
Glad to know that there are dm fans here too. And I’ve never agreed more in my life, he really is like the doctor mike of aviation. Smart, funny and informs about topics that people want to learn about
I love your videos!!!
I'm always waiting for a new video!
*videos
Awesome job. Keep it up Captian Joe.
Prior to my retirement from BAC, in 1998, I was one of the members of the team which supported the (then) SLI Avionics/Smiths Aerospace, (now) GE Aviation, (FQIS) 6026-2/BAC P-28 Integrated Refuel Panel. Ultrasonic transducers provide the technology which guided us away from the days of the capacitance probe - type systems.
There are features designed into the system, which take much of the concern away from the flight crew, and assist in maintaining an adequate supply of fuel, during in-flight emergencies, by monitoring parameters set forth in the "safe landing weight" QRH docs. Additionally, the system coordinates info from the MCDU; EPR cluster, altimeter, MACH Airspeed System, and a "few other incidentals", which the ravages of time has frittered away.
That nine-year chunk of my life, was "enriching, so-much-so, that it bordered on being addictive". Eh, I did eighteen years there, and concluded my career in aviation by contracting to NASA as part of the simulation engineering team which took on windshear, and the NASA-HSR (at NASA-Langley). During each of my two years there, my daughter accompanied me to "Take Your Daughter/Child to Work Day".
I've seen, from the engineering side of the equation, how very much work/research/design, etc.., went into making the fuel dump procedure one of the more certain aspects of the "overweight landing scenario". Thanks, Captain Joe, for bringing this topic up for review.
Great video - really enjoy the dissections of real life events. Dankeschön.
Very interesting and as always very clear too!!!
Thank you!
Captain Joe, you're a great teacher! I find your subjects interesting although I'm just a passenger.
Video hat mir sehr gut gefallen, da es mit vielen Details wirklich Klarheit in dieses Thema bringt.
Nice explanation of a complicated issue in aviation. Thanks Captain Joe !!!
It is only complicated because they don't want you to know about it. Simple as pie, large commercial aircraft are allowed to pollute as much as they want because they are defense contractors. They have no obligation, or profit incentive to build a plane that pollutes less when they don't have to.
It's cheaper to dump thousands of gallons of fuel than fly less passengers in a more expensive plane.
when it comes to being an audio technician... you make a wonderful pilot. 🤣 love the content as usual, though. thx and a great new year. :)
Keep the good work Joe.
Congratulations for your channel
Great video Joe! Enjoyed very much.
Thank you captain joe for this video, it’s far more engaging and interesting when ATC transcripts are used in your videos that are live. Please make very video as engaging as this one
Very informstive Joe! Thanks a bunch!
Good info on this one Capt. Joe! Very interesting!
Great as always..... love this content.
I really enjoy your work. I will never be a pilot. Roller coasters make me qweezy, however, knowing what’s going on when I fly gives added feeling of safety. Thank you!
Superb explanation....especially to the pollution aspect as well.
Amazing video once again Captain... Keep it going!
You have great videos! I would think most of the fuel would vaporize as it falls down toward the ground or sea.
Not really left a huge slick and killed fish on my friends large pond.
@@jamesvw769 pppp
Vaporize to where? It's still in the atmosphere, it's still toxic, and it's still a chemical. Makes CO2 look like water when you compare how much kerosene pollutes.
Love Captain Joe Videos Amazing.
Fantastic video. Thanks captain 👨✈️
VERY GOOD VIDEO JOE. AS ALWAYS EXCELLENT
Great video keep them coming we love them ✈
How much paperwork is associated with a fuel dump or diverted landing?
This is amazing!!! Thank you!!!
Very interesting. I learnt a lot from this video. Thank you very much.
Hello Captain Joe I am a new subscriber love your vid and advise
Awesome. Very informative 👏👏
VASAviation and Captain Joe - a match made in heaven. More, please!
Cpt Joe. Im very late to this channel. I will never be a pilot and am a terrible flyer (no wings) . I have been bingeing these videos of late. For some reason this one was very reassuring and incredibly interesting. Don’t get me wrong the others are too, but this one was your perfect game. Please keep it up. ... and your Aircraft.
Joe your videos are absolutely amazing and are an inspiration to me everyday. I just wanted to say, it might be a good idea to invest in a cheap microphone so we can hear your amazing knowledge even better! At least in your home studio.
Thank you Captain Joe.😘
Good answers to questions I didn't know I had :)
Love these videos 👍
SFO: I was on a jet that dumped fuel.
One aborted landing, a flyby the tower to check the gear. The Captain said the nose gear light wasn't green, so we flew by the tower.
We flew over the Pacific ocean and dumped fuel. Then landed in crash landing position. No problem, the gear was fine.
Same trip had an earthquake while I was in the 13th floor of a hotel. One of 2 earthquakes that had me concerned. The other was 1989 Loma Prieta. Usually anything under 4.0 is amusing.
Another great informative video, it's really great to be able to hear the actual radio conversations, I thought your body language was absolutely brilliant, i could barely stop laughing at 15:15, to go straight from a scholars cradle to a forehead palm at the mention of chemtrails was priceless, to not be able to tell the difference between a high altitude condensation vaportrail and single engine very low level crop dusting?🤣 (even then, crop dusting is usually liquid and doesn't really leave any trail, you want the stuff on the crop, not floating in the air) Love your work.👍
Always loved watching your videos... But it's now time for me to subscribe 😊 I've always been fascinated by aircrafts but had reservation about being a pilot so I became an expert in foreign languages.
Can you do a video on how you got into flying, and what your path was to become a commercial pilot.
Another great video by CJ
Hi Joe, thanks for these wonderful videos!
Hey, I recently watched a video from Tom Salalender (3D printer guru) where he showed the difference in sound quality by using a clip on microphone. I noticed the sound on this video had a lot of echo. Look up the video and see the difference. A simple upgrade to make your videos even better!
Captain Joe,
That was fascinating, especially with the real recordings tht added drama to the video.
Cheers,
Rik Spector
Nice video as always
Very fascinating vídeo Joe, as usual 😉 Just the audio was a bit bad, but I appreciated the onscreen conversation between the ATC and the pilots. You should do more videos in that way. What was the result? The aircraft in this video landed safely? How was possible a gear door failure?
Thank you for the video. The only problem I had was with bad audio quality.
(11:55 That flight path is very similar to Monza Circuit… XD)
Great video Joe, thanks!
Sure, thought I was the only one who noticed, seems the ATC guy watches formula 1 and was bored :D
Captain good day... Im hoping you are always in good health. Your video Amazingly showing even a passenger can land the plane, this is how technology do this present time. I learned a lot from your videos.. God bless...
Hi Captain Joe and thank you for your videos. I see them because I like aviation and to improve my english comprehension. I have a question: when a plane is on the cruise altitude what percentage of power engine is used? Thank you so much.
In 1981 I lived under the glide slope for the Charleston Air Force Base. I understand condensation effects, but I remember Starlifters on final with what I'm sure was fuel coming out of the outer wing tips. Where I was, nothing ever made it to the ground. I also clearly remember hearing the howl of the hydraulics lowering the landing gear.
The fuel jettison ports of the C-141 Starlifter are not located at the wingtips, they're located between the outer flaps and the ailerons, and you'd never be dumping fuel on final approach. You probably saw contrails created by wingtip vortices, which is most commonly associated with heavy aircraft flying slowly at low altitude (e.g. on final approach) in high humidity.
There was a jetliner that was forced to dump fuel over Los Angeles in either 2019 or 2020 during an Emergency, but they did it at a low altitude and the fuel landed on an Elementary School, High School Sports Field, and a few other places. Some of the fuel landed on children and teachers at the Elementary School, also some fuel landed on students practicing on the sports field (if I remember correctly), and other people had the fuel rain down on them before running inside buildings and notifying authorities.
I always thought the jets had to dump the fuel over water; like out at sea or over a large lake or a river. Thanks for clearing this up that they can dump fuel over land, but has to be over a certain altitude.
15:11
That facepalm says everything.
I often happen to see two specific jets/routes dumping fuel over Melbourne. One, is a 747-400 on route to Sydney from Johannesburg at noon ish. The second one, is a 787 on its way to Perth from Auckland. Both pretty high though. I always wondered why do they dump fuel as I don’t think almost every single flight has an issue requiring them to dump. Great video, Joe.
You were just seeing contrails. You will never see a plane dumping fuel if they are landing at their planned destination, since they will already have used enough fuel on route (unless they had way too much fuel on board due to some sort of egregious error, in which case the person responsible is going to be in a lot of trouble for wasting the airline's money).
Great Information SIR
Haha, yes... Captain. You make a further information about dumping fuels. That's great!!!!
Dear Captain Joe,
Can you please explain how to set up an FMS (for approach)?
Thank you!
Excelente información thank you
Good Job Thank you
700 tons of fuel... Omg all places where I can be with my corolla only if I have 700 tons of fuel.... And few decades extra
Dragan Crnogorac best comment!!!
If it's a diesel it should be able to burn the Jet A1 no problem.
Might ba a bit difficult to pull up next to a fuel dumping aircraft to fill up. And you might need a bigger tank, as they dump, on average 35 tonnes or 43 750 L per instance.
Corolla diesels seem to be very efficient, just one dump should give you about a million kilometers!
Good luck getting that fuel!
Good video. Thanks Joe. One question remains, though. Are other plains not allowed to fly in the fuel dumping area because they might ignite the fuel? Or in order to give the dumping plane space? Or because of other reasons I don’t think of now? Or maybe all of that?
Hello Cpt Joe, thx again for this video,
BE PLEASED TO EXPLAIN WHY THE HOLDING IS OVERHEAD SOME CITIES INSTEAD OF OVER THE SEA ???
Thanks Joe, this was very insightful plus the use of real ATC situations with pilots ..thank you so much,its such an inspiration and absolutely educative.
That facepalm though ..lols
amazing video! greetings from Tegernsee
outstanding!!!
When i need to dump fuel i do it over suburban LA
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