Electric Scooter Throttles: Thumb vs Trigger
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- čas přidán 15. 07. 2020
- Which style of throttle is better? Are you setting up your controller and throttle correctly? Does it even matter? Answers to these burning questions and more on this episode of Scooter Basics.
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The three people who disliked this video, were clearly triggered.
I didn’t even ride the scooter 🛵 i rented today just because the throttle
LOL
Clearly 🤣
Lmao nice pun 👍👏
@@angelsaidferreira5193 why bother renting it then? Lol
Just got into e scooters, really interesting video and nicely edited guy!
Thanks a lot!!
I’ve got both too... trigger is easily more accurate and comfortable when it’s adjusted correctly... awesome video and great work on the channel.
Great points. Even by just angling the throttle down a couple of notches really boosts the ergo of the finger throttle. The throttle out of factory for most scooters are set waaaaay too high of an angle. Actually helps the display legibility when you angle it down as well I’ve found with mine. I really hope ESG watches this video. Keep up the good work mate.
Literally just changed my mind man, which is good cas I want that mantisssss🤤🤤🤤
Bro get this one, I own it and recommend it!
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Really well put together and informative video. Your right about how so many people position the throttle in the wrong place.
Extremely helpful, thank you so much - nobody ever talks about the proper positioning of things
Great video! I fell for the rumor on this one too. The throttle is the part of the scooter you'll interact with the most, so knowing about the different styles is important.
Very helpful video. I just bought budget ninebot g30 max with thumb throttle and am waiting for vsett 10+ with index throttle control. My first mod was supposed to be changing it to thumb too, but I'll definitely give my factory setup a trial with that smart alignment (more horizontal than vertical). Thank you!
My new Apollo Ghost came with a trigger throttle, and was debating a thumb throttle, but the more I ride it the more I think I like the trigger throttle. This video further cements my decision, thanks!
Súper helpful as I just got my high end scooter with trigger throttle! thanks so much for the suggestion!
Fatigue for long stretches can be mitigated if you have cruise control.
Yes, but does this mantis have it is my question.
@@jack2u Yes Base and Pro. It’s in the P settings
Agreed. I hadn't considered the thumb/finger trigger question before buying and ended up with thumb in a push forward configuration. It also didn't immediately click that I had cruise control, and I tended to keep the throttle pushed forward, which was indeed tiring, especially with small hands. I have since learned to modify my instinctive behavior and now use the throttle only when necessary
Just bought the Apollo Ghost, which will be my first trigger throttle so this is some good stuff to know
My new Mantis dual is on back order after owning a WideWheel for 6 months. The thumb throttle on the WideWheel is ok, but after testing a few trigger throttle scooters (including the Mantis) I could feel how much more control a trigger gives you. Great points on your other video covering set up too! :)
I was debating whether I replace the trigger throttle with the thumb throttle on my pre-ordered Zero 10X. After watching your video it makes sense that it would be more comfortable and more control using the trigger throttle. I’m use to just using my finger when it comes to braking and moving the clutch on a motorbike. With having the thumb wrapped around the handlebars at all times. Much safer too. Thank you for the video. And yes, I am new to the scooter world. I can’t wait to have fun. “ROCK ON”
Wow! Great video broski! ☺️
Thanks! Good tip about the angle of the throttle! Was finding it so uncomfortable compared to my old thumb throttle, going to adjust mine now and see how it goes!
how did it go
Great insights, very helpful!
Thanks for the video thanks to reddit I cancelled my thumb trigger upgrade for my Apollo pro yesterday. I have a max also and did 30km with no cruise on my hands were very cramped on return trip
I just ordered the emove cruiser with the finger throttle because it makes more sense to me than the thumb throttle on my ninebot max. Glad I did. Good vid!
I am coming from a ninebot max, how did you like the emove ?
awesome topic man! I have been always thinking the same way and wondering why they keep making thumb throttle, human thumb finger has a lot more power than other four fingers so I would rather use my thumb to hold the scooter tight than acceleration.
I was looking for a scooter that had about 25-30 mph top speed to a range of 20-25 miles. I stumbled uppon the Varla Pegasus and Kaabo Mantis 8. I thought the Mantis was better overall with smoother acceleration, more portability and less weight, pneumatic tires and a solid build. One thing I was worried about was how I would like the trigger throttle. The varla pegasus had a thumb throttle. Right now, I had a segway ninebot max which has the thumb throttle. As soon as I got the scooter, I faced the trigger throttle more downwards for more comfort and easily felt comfortable with this throttle body. I agree with your points in this video. One thing I have to thank you for is recommending the mantis 8 to me. Just got one and I loved it.
The thumb throttle that's on the boosted rev is the best. I do like the trigger throttle as well, I haven't used the throttle you're speaking ,yet. Waiting for mines to come in from Apollo.
I'm new to e-scooters and collect info before i buy my first one. I have to agree: the thumb-throttle already looks tiring, even without having tried it yet myself. Good info 👍
Nice video, so far having tried twist throttle and trigger throttle,I like the trigger better as well. The twist had me in a few accidents that could have been avoided had Ibnot been simply holding the handbags lol...we live and learn tho,for cruising or flying the trigger is easiest and most fun imo
Great video, you earned a subscriber
Thumb accelerator is good for slower speed and short distance.
With trigger, you can control it very well even at high speed.
It is also safe because you can lock your thumb on the grip to hold the bar better.
My current scooter is thumb throttle but i upgraded to the apollo ghost 2022 that has a trigger. Still waiting for it to arrive but this video makes me feel better about the trigger throttle.
Thank you for your very informative videos! You input is very much appreciated. I wish one could reach out to you for private consultation on a good choice for a scooter. For now can I ask you what you would recommend for a person who is pretty much going to stay on asphalt and maybe some fine crushed limestone. I don’t need to go over 30 mph. I’d like to stay in the 2k or less price range. Any input would be greatly appreciated!
i prefer the Nami style (Wuxing 108X) and round throttle like Rion etc.
I had a trigger throttle, and when adjusted correctly it is decent to ride with, but it feels less controllable than one of those IMO
i can also put my thumb on the body of that style thumb throttle and do small movements because i ride in power control mode (while scooters out of the box ride in speed control mode)
Twist throttle thoughts? Looking at the Emove Cruiser,, which has option of twist throttle, what do you recommend between twist and pull throttle? I come from motorbikes, which use a twist throttle.
Can you see well out of the side mirror some people say that you forearm can block some of the view. Very informative video by the way Thanks 👍🏻
Was thinking about getting a m365 pro and doing the monorim v2 front suspension mod.. now I’m thinking mantis exactly like yours haha. Is it a much better choice? Plan is to use it for a 12 mile commute. Your suggestion?? :)
I currently have a thumb throttle I have never tried a trigger throttle but personally I like thumb throttles more just from my experience with thumb throttles but I enjoyed the information of this video
Totally agree!
Only tried thumb so far, and my initial thought about trigger was.. that seems awkward. But tilting it down, it looks much better indeed.
I find the thumb throttle is difficult to keep steady on uneven ground. I suspect trigger is better in that regard.
Good electric scooter videos. Liked and subscribed.
great video and agree with the positioning of brakes and throttle. sadly and most frustratingly, the kaabo skywalker handle bar, perhaps not wide enough or because it requires room to fold down, the brake levers and the throttle cannot be moved further inward, so they all end up cramped together with the fingers in the way of each other and no room to comfortably place or use them on brake and throttle without overlapping, blocking and literally dangerous and fumbling with the lever and trigger on top of each other! no wonder the throttle is perhaps, in my case, have to be angled up so as to be kept out of the way of overlapping the brake lever, preventing the trigger from being pulled, etc. etc. 😤😤😤
When I moved to a trigger scooter it was disconcentring at first, switching between throttle and braking and my glove would sometimes interfere with the brakes.. A littler adjustment on the lever and technique solved the issue. For short rides, almost no difference, but the longer you go , the easier the trigger.is
Totally agree...trigger is much more comfortable!
i actually just recently bought a second escooter in 30 days and one of the reasons i picked the one i did was because it had a thumb throttle. i hope i dont regret it. the only other one iv tried is a normal throttle like a motorbike. that to me is the bet but i made a compromise for my 2nd.
i have a bogist m5 pro and a bogist c1 pro.
I have both scooter with thumb and trigger throttle (Gotrax gxl v2 250w -thumb throttle) and (evercross-800w trigger throttle) and i prefer THUMB throttle.
The reason why is because there a hand brake on the right hand along with the trigger throttle; (the Evercross)the hand brake has to be adjusted downward in order for the trigger to feel comfortly leveled with the handle bar, or the if the handbrake is leveled, the trigger is about a 15-20% grade facing upwards which causes more stress to my hand.
Thanks for this video, I was about to "pull the trigger" on the thumb throttle, you saved me $80! My display/trigger is at a 30 degree angle, that's the best I can do which is fine om my Voro Emove Cruiser, I didn't notice any brakes blocking your ability to move the unit all the way down flat where my right brake prevents further movement.
@JC Hall -- How is the position of the trigger and brake now that it's been a few months? Is it working for you? I'm looking to get the Emove Cruiser and debating about which style to use. Thanks!
@@theagta I'm very comfortable with the original trigger, working out well!
I agree with you about the restraint on the thumb but some scooters have cruise control
Very informative 👏
What is the name of that extra bar in the middle of your handle bar? I need something like that!
I prefer finger throttle because i can grip more on the handlebars when breaking and accelerating :D
I don't like the normal scooter thumb throttles either BUT, the ones that are actually like ATV thumb throttles look nice! Might get one for my 10x!
i have the segway max g30 and I have been looking to replace the thumb to finger throttle. do you know where to buy a thumb throttle?
I have a trigger throttle and the first thing I did was adjust the angle of the trigger. I still find it awkward and my finger definitely cramps. Plus having trigger throttle AND trigger brakes mean you have to weave your fingers through both triggers in a strange way and if you let go you might mistakenly grab the wrong one when your hand returns to the handle bar. I don't have access to a thumb throttle but the rented scooters I've tried with one seem more comfortable to use.
Your the man you fly on that scoter
The reason why people have it tilted up is that they're riding sitting down, otherwise, you won't be able to see the throttle display (I only adjust until I read the display). Whenever I ride standing up, I know I have to adjust it.
Fact: Trigger throttle was used on Gopeds since the '90s but were later swapped out for half twist and thumb throttle because of comfort. After 30 min of riding your index finger will be sore. To me, a trigger throttle is more sporty (cool) than practical. I think the half-twist throttle is the best overall. You should try it out, they have it with the LCD display.
Good informative video. I noticed this about your narrative. It seems like you are writing an essay with structure. ☺️ It is fantastic, very informative. A+
Out of left field with this point.
I would love to aee a detachable battery like those ebikes. It is a deal breaker for me.
Instead of lugging the bike/scooter out of your car, you can charge the detachable battery at home/hotel.
At a pizza place or a coffee shop or a library, they don't mind you bringing in a battery instead of a scooter.
Happy trails.
I too find that thumb throttles are much too tiring and causes hand/thumb cramping if traveling long distances with my scoot. Finger throttle is the only way to go for me. The "sqeeze" seems more natural ergonomically than "thumb pushing".
chat got yume hawk m10 how do i instal and connect finger throttle i cant seem to find how or if so please help
Really interesting stuff man, thank you. You clearly seem knowledgable so I had a quick question that is pretty much subjective. I have a Ninebot Max G30LP that tops out at 18-19mph. Good scooter but I want to go faster but not sketchy fast. The Emove Cruiser apparently hits 25-28mph. Do you find a noticeable diff btw 19 and 25mph? I just want some zip but nothing crazy. Thank you!
It goes up to 33mph now but your comment was 2 years ago. Which scooter did you purchase?
excellent ~ i am about to buy my 1st e scooter & that was useful to know
boston/uk
Check out my latest Kugoo M4 Pro vid mate, I'm riding round Boston too
I got both lol Segway-Ninebot Max (thumb)
Apollo Explore (trigger)
I got both thumb and finger and thumb is much more comfortable for acceleration and braking, especially braking that’s essentially one half second or Millie second can save your life so take everything into consideration if you have a finger your will have a harder time trying to hit the brakes as with thumb is much smoother and faster, he was right about you thumb cramping up but your finger will do the same get uncomfortable after a while on both ends.
I learned the trigger throttle is up like that often times for shipping reasons and it looks to be for marketing too. The photos show the display better. But in actual use, you're standing over it and would probably want the display in a more laying down position than vertical. Having it so vertical is also bad for your wrist ergonomically.
I either want a thumb throttle or a throttle similar to rions, where you spin like a dial of sorts
i don't really like the trigger throttle :(
How fast were you going in this video?
I have a thumb throttle and experience no fatigue (1 hour plus ride, divided in 2 parts). It's comfortable, natural.
Prefer thumb.
Still wouldn't skip having a Mantis for that reason. ;)
anyone you raced motocross already has index and middle finger on the front brake and clutch. it was second nature with the trigger throttle. thumb throttles are meant for quads
I hope I can change out the thumb trigger for a finger one on my hover1 m365 clone
I have just bought a Dragon scooter with a dangerously fierce trigger throttle. Today on my 3rd ride, I found out what you just advised but also have a conflict with the brake lever which is now in the way of my index finger. I will try to angle it down further but my main complaint is the function of the throttle? It has to be turned very gradually if you want to avoid being thrown forward uncontrollably but the first 10 or 20 degrees does nothing and then it is fierce! What do you see as the solution to this?
This video seems to not cover ebikes where there are other things required.
I recently found the Kuugo G-Booster and all of the specs are sooo good... Except that it has a thumb throttle :( I really am set on getting a trigger throttle and it's really a shame that to me the best scooter for the price doesn't have that
How hard would it be to mod a scooter for a left-hand throttle?
Did you consider that Scooters do come with cruise control?
I’ve always wanted to know can u switch sides
Or you youst buy scooter with cruise control. Awesome video.
I like them the same because you can use cruise control instead of keeping your thumb on the thumb throttle
Thumb throttle is okay and easy to use, i would recommend the option of cruiecontroll with them otherwise they get uncmfortable fast. Never tried trigger but i tried twist and it was way better even as only half the grip area was twisting
More than thumb vs trigger, is sine wave vs square wave.
I've grabbed my trigger by mistake once, braking hard, I'm willing to try thumb throttle.
Hi. I am handicapped on my right fingers, so right trigger throttle is a big no for me. Would you recommend a twist throttle? or is there a left trigger throttle available across the globe for me to get?
Twist throttles are hard to find on electric scooters but if you can find it then I think they are great. Just like riding a motorcycle. I have never seen a left handed throttle but surely they exist right? You could probably dig around on alibaba or aliepxress and find one
@@RK9Rides If i have a 48V scoot, any 48v throttle replacement should do right? I found a twist throttle 48V. A replacement for Emove Touring/Cruiser. I am not just sure if model/part number should matter.
I got a gotrax gxl v2 and I can't stand the thumb throttle, so glad I'm upgrading to a yume s10
What I like about thumb throttles is you can have a bigger display right in front of you.
They should always make it an option for a full twist not half not just others that’s fine too but full twist allows me to handle and hold the grips fully like I want to. I just like full twist not that any other is bad or anything.
is that you riding in the video (mountain bike)
I prefer the thumb throttle with a 5 or 10 second auto-cruise control. I used to like the thumb throttle for a bit, until i find it always blocking the right handbrake lever. It isnt confusing, its just in the way...
trigger control r better BUT i love my oxo so much... what can i do..?
I own a dualtron thunder and i have yet to experience fatigue while using the trigger throttle even on long rides
You make an excellent ☝️,I was in a little scooter accident which was my fault being careless and little respect for 30mph! Hit a giant pot hole looking at these girls 😂🤨it shoved my thumb upward snapping the tendon clean off the thumb force of handlebars charging upward no control with only fingers if my thumb was locked it would have changed the outcome 3 broke ribs and still can't give a thumb 👎 up I didn't want surgery oh and mean road rash!! Plus I like freestyle wheelies and stuff I respect now and go much faster,but carefull when checking out girls in Wildwood!! Lol
i had a finger throttle on my first scooter. which was fine.
then i got myself a ninebot scooter with thumb throttle. it was okay, since it has "cruise control" (after 5 seconds of having the throttle in a position, it will keep it and you can stop touching your throttle).
but without cruise control, my trip to work (10 km or liek 6.2 miles) already hurts my thumb. i DID NOT have that issue with the finger throttle.
my next scooter will have finger throttle again. it is an "IO Hawk Legend", based on the Kaabo Mantis, in actual cooperation with kaabo.
actually, one german youtube already complained about the throttle of the Legend. i should check his positioning of the controller, and tell him to adjust it if needed.
How do you change you kmp to mph
Im new to scooters and just bought dualtron thunder. Does anyone know of a place in orange county CA that does maintenance on these high end scooters?
Way to start your e-scooter journey!
So my question is how to angle the throttle and still access the brake effectively. I just got my scooter yesterday, and that was my challenge.
Can you use wd40 on a squeaky thumb throttle?
If the higher end more powerful and expensive scooters are using trigger style throttle, I trust the engineers know what they were doing when faced with deciding trigger vs thumb.
I suppose seeing the screen might be determined by now ones height?
an upright throttle is a common issue causing the magnet to become stuck as you ride from the slight sideward force you put on the trigger
Oh interesting, I didn't know that. Another reason to set up the throttle correctly!
i prefer trigger, thumb levers are great for slower or park riding. trigger throttles i prefer long rides at faster speeds.
I like the segway GT throttle with is the same as motorcycle
Hi, having both types in the scooters I own I can say that the trigger throttle definitely gets in the way of brakes. If you don't have a brake lever on that side possibly its better. If you have hydraulic brakes (as my friends Wolf Warrior has) then its even worse and either the brake has to be too far down for comfort or the trigger to high.
Each are difficult to control and requires the rider to put aside their fantasy that its a thing which should obey them and actually learn to use it (it is after all a machine).
Lastly after decades of motorcycle riding the operation of pushing the thumb is a bit more akin to the movement of twisting the throttle ... so there's that too.
My view is the most important thing is to learn how to take advantage of cruise control and know how to work that.
I have a Zero 8 with a finger-throttle in horisontal position. And auto-pilot om top of that. Still though - I would prefer a thumb-throttle. This throttle really is inherently better. Most people have the acceleration-option on max. Therefore they want to have better acceleration-control with a finger-throttle. Change to slower acceleration, and enjoy better ergonomic comfort with the thumb-throttle. At least let the buyer choose for himself with type of throttle he wants - also on high-end scooters.
Trigger throttle allows the hand's most strongest part your thumb to grip the handlebars and your weakest finger to press the trigger, the opposite with the thumb throttle.
No for the thumb throttle u can click it twice and it can go into cruise mode so u can take a break and then when you want cruise mode to go off just click the throttle once or press the brake
There's no better or worse since it's personal preference. It's only a comparison.
1:43 that's partly because upright is better to look at the display, especially under the sun. Not everyone use a phone for speedo. And being upright is slightly better to prevent being mistake the throttle as the brake.
It's kinda like pneumatic vs solid tires, or standing vs sitting debate. There would always be two camps. No right or wrong. Just personal preferences.
I feel like I have more control of the scooter with the thumb throttle at high speed. Trigger seem dangerous.. too many times at a light I pulled the trigger instead of the break and the scooter went flying out of my hands..Or while my hands are resting at a stop some how I tap the trigger.. bike go flying smh.. thumb throttle give me two different distinct motions for a function. Personally I feel having a throttle match a break style is idiotic and should be either a push style throttle or a thumb style but never trigger…bc it like breaking