FC Barcelona: A Chaotic Mess
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Barcelona have been a mess over the past few years. Scandals all over the place, landmark poor performances and plenty of memeworthy moments.
Today, we take a look at the past 8 years of Blaugrana.
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00:00 - Introduction
01:35 - Thanks to Spitch
02:33 - MSN: 10 defenders won’t help
08:36 - The cost of success: Bartomeu
12:42 - Things get Messi
16:30 - Pull the lever, Kronk
21:11 - Where to from here?
Producer: Tinashe Chipako
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Petition for a drinking game everytime Tinashe says Bartomeo instead of Bartomeu
I realized after recording that I'm a fool haha! Not even sure why I kept saying that
@@FootballIconic In all honesty I can't tell the difference myself
@@kyriakos02 same tbh
BARTOMEU and LAPORTA ARE NO DIFFERENT THAN EACHOTHER😱
@@deborahluck8274 there are differences. Bartomeu is not a very competent businessman. Laporta on the other hand is a politician, a shrewd and cunning one at that. The only similarity is their works can be called 'shady'. But Laporta has far more intelligence in his fat belly than Bartomeu has in his brain. Laporta can be a Liar who uses drama but he is shrewd, cunning and he loves the club.
Barca was kinda extremely depended on Messi. So when he left the team didn't know how to work without him. Atleast we got back on track- sort of.
Messi spent last 4 season in Barca playing with average players.
You mean Koeman, Setien and Valverde played a very Messi dependant system, because it was much easier to do for them, since they are hack managers.
Barca is Messi. They were nothing special before him and were reduced back to nothing special after him.
@@draca8100 they got players, the problem was that everyone was playing in a system arround/for midget, so he was the only one who can shine, ofc no one could progress more when you re lined up to play for other dude
@@Tx2bx they were nothing special before messi? how hypocrite and fanboy stuff to bark, barca was winning ucl in 2005, r10 was destroying everyone, rijkard had an elite team, they were not special? pathetic degenerate fanbase that dude has
As a Barcelona fan, I was as happy when Bartomeu resigned as I was when we won the treble in 2015. His reckless spending on players we didn't need is the biggest reason we had to sell so much of our future profits just to get back on track.
Madrids better
@@codyross654 can you point to where I asked?
As a liverpool fan, i want to thank bartomeu for the £120M donation, without it we’d be struggling oh and, be wary of quickly taken corners
@@cheeseshit999 struggling now 😢
activating 4 levers just to sign overrated aging players on huge salary to pile on debts isn't "getting back on track"
Crazy that Santos only got 17 million from the Neymar transfer…some dodgy dealings and backhanders definitely occurred!
i mean sandro rosell went to prison
Lies again? Harvard Barcelona Orlando
Maybe there was a bit of corruption...
Bartomeu is a Madrid agent, nobody can convince me otherwise. No way a Barcelona president actively roots against his own team the way bartomeu did.
Nah, he is just really dumb. Florentino himself has said that a strong Barça is good for Madrid's profit
Fr
Facts
Funny thing is, i cant even see a Madrid agent doing as much damage as Barto díd ever.
Fr a football fan (Madrid or whatever) wants to see competition not destroy the most beautiful rivalry
"Here we have Xavi activating the 5th lever as no one informed him that barca were in the clear. A true team player"🤣🤣🤣🤣
At what minute did he say that?😭🤣
As a Barca fan I can truthfully say, it's gotten to a point where we recive so much hate as a club for basically everything the club does that we now basically can't be asked to give a shit what others think of us
I think it's just that ppl think we should have suffered more like AC Milan but barcelona always had an identity and an obvious problem that could be fixed. I think last season was our most disappointing but we definitely had over 5yrs of disappointment with valverde, bartomeu, koeman
@@jamescampos2140 at least with Valverde we were winning the league title and not losing el clasico. .just saying ... fartomeow was the problem
@@defjam137 yea but that style was boring, and only effective with magic intervention from messi. even valverdde himself was sleep during some games. Messi practically at the peak of his powers was literally keeping barcelona afloat along Ter stegen being very reliable.
@@jamescampos2140 I agree with this. I keep telling people that our downfall started with Valverde. Medicore managers being carried by Messi.
I think most people think that La Liga are hypocrites at this point especially your president, Tebas. He turns a blind eye when Barca's debt went over 1.5bil but when other club especially City spent money, he cried about UEFA being unfair. Plus your club openly tapping on Bernardo was annoying as hell, not to mention your fans keep hyping up that Moreno scammer even tho he got almost everything wrong about Bernardo transfer
please make a video on Dele Alli and his fall from grace, from a promising Spurs player who had potential to be the best, to a nobody who's fallen out of Frank Lampard's plans at Everton and has moved to Beskitas.
And now Lampard himself too
UCL looking real competitive this season
Bartomeu may be the guy who was in charge when we won our second treble, but he'll always be the villain in my eyes. The main reason why Barca went through such a shitstorm.
That aside, one of the projects that has me a bit anxious is the revamping of the Camp Nou. It's a seriously ambitious project that is going to take tons of money (probably) and quite some time. Given all the accountancy gymnastics we've been pulling off, I'm really hoping that there'll be some long term reparations that'll allow us the room for our aspirations.
What I wonder is why didn’t Barca give Messi a proper midfield from 2016 onwards. Bro could have won them atleast 2 ucls.
It’s frustrating since you see them buying whoever they want rn
You forgot to say everyone at Madrid loves Bartomeu
I heard they're putting up a golden statue of him at the Santiago Bernabéu
@@DaybreakPT the least they could do, absolute club legend
Real Madrid might put golden statue for Laporta in a few years time, if gamble does not pay off.
A statue of Xavi is well on the way too
Barca went from a -141 millions to a 653+ Millions.
Laporta masterclass ~
good luck to Barca 😂
You are gambling your future incoming (hence your future) in hoping that you can survive the present. I would be slightly worried if i were a Barca fans. Though, that money have been admittedly well spent for now. But if the results still didn't go their way, it is going to be a rough future
@@ammarbaagu The assets they sold generated less than 10% of Barca's revenue.
Edit: It's just really good business by the Barca board.
@@lazzy5173 around 5% not even 10
@@ammarbaagu bruh🤣
Hi Tinashe, just wanted to say thank you for making Videos about todays football and the history of football. So keep up the work 👍🏾
As a United fan, i really like the direction Barca is heading. They have a bright future
Let's hope UTD can head into a bright future. I doubt it though with the Glazers in charge.
So that we can beat you back-to-back in europa league final this time?
United and Barca going in to the light Holding hands
Your content just becoming better and better dude, this is by far my favorite football related channel
As a Barcelona fan it became a yearly depression at a point no matter how much hope you were given by good results around Christmas
But now I actually feel change is coming. real change not some koeman nonsense
I would’ve titled this video, ‘FC Barcelona: Chaotic and Messi.’ Missed opportunity, I think…🤷♂️
If not for messi they would have been playing in la liga 2
They would have already been regulated
All true fans knew what would happen as soon as Barto got elected in 2015. At least Rosell despite being horrendous wasn't at his level of stupidity. Really the only elite level president we have ever had has been Laporta. We'vw had 2 or 3 other good presidents, and apart from that all of them have just been typical politicians, big talk with nothing to show in practice.
You forgot to mention that Real Madrid’s success with the UCL, the 3peat and the most recent 2022 UCL prompted Barca to overspend for players and pull levers in order to “compete” with their fiercest rival.
Only natural. Competition like that in LaLiga is the reason Spanish teams keep pounding English, German and Italian sides
How did Barca ‘’overspend for players’’?
@@FreddieGamingHD paid a high fee for somebody who's contract was running out anyways. Bought Raphina who was not needed since Barca already has way too many forwards (ferran, fati, lewa, depay, fati, dembele)
@@FreddieGamingHD Coutinho, Griezmann?
@@kaan4040 Raphinha is a different profile to all the other attackers you mentioned besides Dembele.
The only documentary style videos that makes time fly by for me
Amazing videos bro❤
Whoever does your edits, he's good. I was dying in the first 30 seconds lol 😂😂😂
Thank you Tinashe, I’ve been waiting for this for so long!
UNICEF Barca times was amazing 😌
I still remember the days when messi was the team
That time wasn't a very pleasant time
Yea coz we were worried what it would like without him
The glasses are back 🙃 Love whenever you upload man always produce content of the highest quality 🥵
The only channel on youtube that got all details right.
love the vids especially as a barca fan. keep it up man
Great content as always! Huge fan of the chanel all the way from Kenya!!!!!
they didnt get out of group in championsleague, lost in the first round of europe league, lost in cdl early. so they dont get much money out of that. but they win la liga, but they lost 25% of that money because of the deals in summer 2022..... i really wonder what they are going to do in summer 2023, with all the money they missing
say whatever you want but i believe in this team. weve just won the first trophy after messi leaving barca with xavi but the players have that freshness and passion that brings back the hope
The Thanos edit at the start with the levers as Infinity Stones had me cracking up! 😂
Na boet this right here is quality content, i genuinely get excited when i get a new vid notification from you, keep up the grind.
A suggestion for a similar video of a fall and rise of a club
Cruzeiro in Brazil, that's finally coming back to first division after been bought by Ronaldo, and had a large corruption scheme exposed. I recommend look for Rodrigo Capelo (Brazilian Journalist) that uncovered all this scandal back in 2019.
Barcelona gained huge fan base outside Europe is because of Messi.
They lost that plus a lot of revenue. Messi brought in at least twice what they paid out for him. NOt to mention corporate sponsors. All gone. Messi brings PSG 700 mln and still counting. Now that he's won the WC, this will increase it immeasurably. Boy, was Barca stupid! So were all those idiots who said they had to get rid of their greatest player, bc the team was dependent on him and the young ones and others couldn't flourish. How did that work out? Great logic, get rid of someone bc they're brilliant.
I'm from the US, discovered Messi in 2012 and started watching every single game he played in since then. Watched every Barca game. Haven't watched a single Barca game since. Watched every PSG game Messi plays in. And of course, Argentina
Fair analysis.
*Ronaldinho
I think Ronaldinho
Im still afraid of the impact of these levers on future
Just got out of (American) football practice, got my birthday leftovers and a new football iconic video, life is good
I think the colapse has a lot to do with the culture as well. The idea of being “loyal” and etc..
I remember a Brazilian reporter talking about how Real Madrid handles older players. It’s almost sad, but they prefer to maintain youth and salary norms instead of showing this “loyalty”. Ramos, Casillas, Marcelo, Casemiro, Raul and some others are legends, but they were let go because the team didn’t want to give out big multi year expensive contracts to aging players. In Barcelona’s case, Umtitti, Alba, Lenglet, Sergi Roberto, Pique, Busquets and others were given crazy contracts at later ages of their career. Not to mention the big difference in recruitment. Real Madrid obviously have flops, but Barcelona have lost ridiculous amounts of money on Coutinho, Dembele and Griezmann alone. This paired with poor youth management ruins your future, exactly the issue they’re having now. The name will keep them afloat, but most clubs would be absolutely destroyed with the terrible management they’ve been through.
It’s quite ironic that during bartomeu’s time as club president he was making the same mistakes rm we’re making during their previous galactico eras. Meanwhile rm were changing their transfer policy to one where they sold players for a profit where possible and were a lot more financially responsible than they’d ever been.
14 GP 12w-1-1, 33goals and 5 conceived, 1 point behind league leaders RM with 1 game less played.
It all comes down to how well they do in the league and on the European stage, and those numbers look pretty damn good.
Now that you've covered one crazy football club administration, what about moving on to another blood sucking ownership, making a video on Glazers impact, not just on Manchester United, but also how it changed certain regulations on the ways to acquire clubs? Also I think you can do series of videos on such controversial histories of clubs that were part of the Super league saga and conclude with a video on how they came together like power rangers for this money grabbing football destroying machiavellian attempt?
Great video as always mate.
Perfect summary! Thanks
For the algo, favourite CZcams channel
25% of Barca's LaLiga TV rights for 25 years receiving €607m as a one of fee. Which works out at equivalent of just over €24m Euros a year received all at once to give back 1/4 of something in the region of €165m (2019/2020 TV rights deal according to Marca) which is just over €40m.
So paying 1.7 times back per year on a short term lever tells me the folllowing.
The super league is not dead for Barcalona as it wont have fo give any La Liga TV deal income back if it does not receive any La Liga TV income.
The Super league horizon is set at just short of 15 years before Barca make a loss at this deal assuming no inflation. So 5-7 years realistically as TV deals and inflation are insane.
Barcalona a really in a terrible position financially as you cant do deals like this more than once.
49% of the club's own studio also goes along similar lines. They wont be expecting to keep that company.
TOTALS TO ONLY 5% OF FUTURE INCOME THAT WONT BE RECEIVED. TEBAS HAS CONFIRMED IT.
Btw barcas studio, the company that is sold for the 3rd and 4th lever where a section of Barcelona’s business that was not producing revenue, so basically they sold an unproductive asset that they hope that working on it with other companies will help it produce revenue, so I think in that aspect they did a pretty good deal
Hands down the best football channel with the best quality!
Barcelona still needs to be very careful that this doesn't come back to bite them. If this fails this could potentially deepen their sorrows
Another top video mate
A very important detail is all La Liga clubs sold 25% of their tv rights for 50 years as part of the cvc deal that La Liga kinda forced on them. All but 3 who refused who are Barca. Madrid and Bilbao so la liga told those 3 clubs to either sell 25% to someone other then cvc or they’d be punished. So this is where the levers thing came up Barca didn’t do it voluntarily but were forced to by La Liga. And the deal they got from sixth street is much better then what cvc offered. More then double the money for only 25 years not 50 and Barca can buy back their rights whenever they want. So whin Atletico Madrid. Sevilla. Valencia etc are hooked to 50 years with cvc Barca are only on 25 years and can buy them back anytime
still there is no such thing as free money.
In the long run, FC Barcelona pays a rather high price. After all, the club now has to give up a quarter of the TV revenues for 25 years. A new TV deal will start in Spain next year. Barça will receive around 200 million a year. Of this amount, the club must therefore give 50 million to the Americans.
Suppose FC Barcelona's TV revenues remain the same until 2047. Sixth Street then has earned its money back after ten years and eventually takes 1.25 billion. That is 740 million above the purchase price of 510 million. Money that would normally have gone to FC Barcelona. The return for Sixth Street is likely to be a lot higher, because the TV rights are sold again every few years. Until now, this always leads to higher amounts for FC Barcelona. And therefore also to higher contributions to Sixth Street.
@@Stanleyhamer Actually Barca received around 607 million and some reports suggest it’s 667. Also they wouldn’t have put that repurchase clause if they didn’t plan on buying back their rights in the future after they get out of this financial mess which I’m assuming will take less then 25 years and even tho this deal might sound inconvenient (which it is) it’s still a lot better than what La Liga offered with cvc
ngl watching Lewandowski aka Mr. Bundesliga in a Barcelona kit still feels weird
I love your content man
the longer your videos the better
3:07 did you say "touch grass" LOL 🤣
been watching your content, quite the quality man.
That bartomeo pronunciation was extremely enjoyable
I yearn for the days when Barca hadn’t sold out and had UNICEF as their sole shirt “sponsor”. Now they literally sold the naming rights to the Camp Nou 😟
But when they put UNICEF on the shirt it was never with the intent to keep it there. It was always supposed to be the first step before a "real" aka a paying sponsor came in.
"This is actual footage of Suarez before being thrown out of Camp Nou" cracked me
Perhaps you should've made this video after the UCL group stage was over. Second time in a row for Barcelona not to reach the UCL play-offs.
they will be there for a while, look how long it took for liverpool to rebuild. we didin't see them for almost 7 years in ucl after 2010
Yo yo yo our G coming back with another banger !
Really well made video. Earned a sub from me
It’s crazy how when Neymar left Barcelona went on a mental breakdown not knowing how to replace him and it literally destroyed the club but when Messi left like arguably the most important player a club can even have they just said Messi is gone damn anyways
Second.
I'm Watching From TEMA West 🇬🇭 Ghana.
Best Sports Channel Of all time.🔥🔥😎
The longer the video, the better ❤
Robben vid PLS, he has such an interesting career.
Nobody: Tinashe *BARTAMAYO*
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As a Barca fan im obviously worried about the current situation. Although sporting wise they are doing good under Xavi🤔😀 it is what it is, but hopefully they get back in some years. I say years cause it is gonna take more than one year
Barca and united recovery starts
@@Animator22538 two fallen giants🤔😀
@@fredrikdahl1230 united are far far worse than barca..its not even close..united are a mid table team now unlike barca
@@mangshu21 yeah. I meant compared to being seen as champions league contenders, Although Barca could have a possibility to win it this season🤔
@@fredrikdahl1230 They're in Europa league.
Right on time for lunch love it
Finally for fuck sake I've been waiting, thanks man
Yes! Finally this video! Forca Barca💙❤️
Bro I love your CZcams channel so much I wish I was doing this
We need a part 2
For contex those all future revenue were just 5% of Barca earning
The football man is back ladies and gentlemen
Watching this after barca get knocked out from europa league by man u
Another video
Another banger
2010-2020, 2 presidents, rossell and bartomeu, the greatest ever people to help madrid.
Nice video
Laporta masterclass
Keep going
Sandro rosell was one of the reasons laporta won the election, since he was friends with Perez, he asked him to keep quiet about the Beckham transfer lie, and he was also one of the reasons we got Ronaldinho, but won't change the fact that he's the sole reason for our downfall when he was elected in 2010.
Sandro is a very talented criminal. He got caught and that's where the downfall of Barca began (illegal signing of Neymar in 2013)
@@lorenzomunisami6083 why it is a illegal signing ? Neymar came at the right time.
@@lexkanyima2195 illegal as in to do with money, not Neymar himself
Barcelona fans don't realise it yet, they have signed away their two decade future for the next five years.
Barcelona is mad crazy with their summer transfer😱
longer vids are better (content wise) + you’ve been dropping bangers!
I agree.. Bartomeu is the greatest president in Real Madrid's history 😁
Can you do a video on Ronald R9
I think barca got their money to buy these new players from their sponsor spotify coz I remember watching this other football channel mentioning that barca got 700 million from spotify
they sold their TV rights bou
Joining spitch today I new I would one day
BRO YOU GOTTA make a video on United's turn in form. GGMU ✊🏻🔥
well man utd have improved but i think it will need time so we're sure man utd won't start losing again (they just lost to real sociedad ik they were robbed but still that shows that they aren't very consistant )
@@random_username_thats_not_used hey he and Maqwell made a video after United's first 2 matches. So a 4 winning streak certainly deserves one.
And the match against Sociedad is an outlier as ETH clearly fielded his 2nd 11. And even then Sociedad had to really on an atrociously given penalty to win.
So yeah, overall, United deserves a video.
Barca may have a good season but they are missing so much income the next years. I guess it's like on last big run before collapsing.
5-10% per year of future income. Don't drink the media coolaid.
As a Barça fan, I have to say... the strategy to overcome the hardship is absolute shambles. I really hope this season pans out as a success, otherwise it's going to be HELL for a LONG while.
Tbf they are going to be good this season even if they won’t exist in 3 more
I'm pretty tired of Barca fans claiming "Everything is fine." It might be, but we can't know that yet.
As a Madrid fan thank god that super team is over
They were insanly good
Those levers are a relief for the time being, and they kinda had no choice at this point, which is worrying in itself, but they can be dangerous. If they sell too much of their future earnings, they may go down in a neverending spiral of debt relieved by levers until the club goes bankrupt. In my opinion, they're not safe yet, at all. The 5 next year will say what the club becomes.
If they manage to lower their total amount of debt, player wages, and increase their overall revenues (that's where good european results could be a very good thing), then they will get out of trouble. If not, the club may go bankrupt, lose the Camp Nou and all players, go in second of third division and have to start from zero.
That seems impossible right? A club of this stature will always have something or someone to save their ass. Well, most likely yes, but bad management could litterally destroy them. We're talking 1 and a half BILLION in debt. That's a lot a lot
Do you know what used to be the annual revenue of the club pre covid times ?
Look it up. A debt of one and a half billion is nothing for a club like Barcelona, it was only a problem insofar that the revenue from the ticket sales were nullified because of the lockdowns and with that no longer being the problem and the team rejuvenated, the revenue will flow back in quickly. Learn a little about finances before going all doom and gloom about such things.
Barto once sued a Spanish CZcamsr for calling him Nobita lol
About to start the vid....better not be a diss on us😒😒😒😒😭
They had to activate all of the levers because if they ddin't they would be europa league levels for many years and the mentality would change and they would end up like Man United
Maybe they got lucky because of Bartolomeu resigned as president
14:53 welcome to franchising like in every US sport :D.
There is a lot of exaggeration by content creators and mostly ignorant English media about what goes on in spain. Just yesterday the laliga president Tebas and Laliga director came out and said Barca will never go bankrupt. All the levers they activated this season and the assets they sold where only worth 5% of the clubs total revenue a season, and also the total debt of the club is only 875. Million and not 1.2 billion, again this is not said by the club president but by the laliga president and directors who have access to the the accounts of all the clubs in laliga. So what laporta did this season is just sacrificing 5% revenue for saving the club financially and inturn the clubs merchandise sales and they are filling up the biggest stadium in Europe for almost every matchday now because of the competitive team. And the words from the laliga executives proves that this whole misconception and narrative mostly by rival fans and English media saying that if barca don't win the CL this season then they will disappear in 2 yrs and will go bankrupt is absolutely BS, ofcourse Barca wants to win and it's not a club owned by rich owners so it generates revenue through winning and other streams, but it has not much financial implications as it is made out in the media, especially since the club barely sacrificed just 5% of its total income every season.
The turn around for Barcelona all started with the election. Victor Font had great ideas, but that's all those were...ideas. His ideas are votes and fans buying into a project. A project is just a rebuild and nobody wants a rebuild. His opponent however was a man who voters already knew. Someone who didn't need to sell them on anything bc he already proved himself. The last time Barcelona was on top of the football mountain(excluding prime MSN era), he was in charge. Laporta is the hero of the recovery story. Without him, none of what has happened successfully so far for the team, would have happened.
The Neymar situation was the start of fan hatred toward Bartomeu. Bc his arrogance and stubbornness is why Barca lost Neymar. At that time, Bartomeu was trying to snatch Verratti from PSG. To which PSG responded by demanding Barca stop or else they'll take one of their players. Barto kept trying...PSG went for Neymar. Which btw is a constant thing. In 2018 PSG warned Barcelona to stop trying to sign Rabiot. They also warned Barca against trying to get Neymar back, as Barto was trying to, to save himself.
And even last season, PSG warned Barca not to try and talk Messi into a return.
The overspending was a desperate man trying to save his job with no real idea how to do so. The manager position became a revolving door. Those managers were given players they didn't want or ask for. Couldn't get the players they did want and ask for. Bartomeu just kept spending money.
As for Laporta, what helped him achieve what he achieved this past window is his well manners, respect for clubs, and he's a good talker. Laporta's job is to sell players on joining the team and at a low price, and talk other players into restructuring their contracts. He did those things without being disrespectful or aggressive. When media would ask about a rumored target, Laporta would praise the player, praise that player's club, and then say words to deny interest.
Every player they signed...wanted Barcelona over any other club. They all had other offers and some better offers, but wanted Barcelona. Why? Its still Barcelona 1st and foremost. But also, Laporta and Xavi.
So why it is wasted for 7 years by progressing ?
I really don’t understand why Barca thought they needed to bring all these players at high wages and try to screw over these other players. They still finished second in La Liga in apparently one of the worst seasons ever. Why not build with the squad u already have this season and see what u need in order to compete in the CL. RL is a great signing but he’s old and in 2 years I would not want his wages.
If you watched towards the end of the season barcelona crawled over the line to that second spot. Only Torres stayed after the summer from that January window, everyone else was a stop gap signing needed to change the dynamic of the team. Having a "shadow" for almost all positions outs barcelona in a good position along with the clever free transfers. The contract situation for De jong was the only thing that was truly handled poorly but I bet this was a frustrating summer for all clubs.