WHO Can Stop MAGNETO? X-Men '97 Episode 9 Review and Reaction | The Aftershow
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Magneto is on a rampage and the X-Men are fractured in their plan - who will come out on top? And HOW will X-Men '97 end? Join Jessica Clemons, Brandon Barrick and Jay Washington as they discuss.
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00:00 - Reaction
01:12 - Intro
03:23 - Episode Recap
17:56 - Favorite Moments from this Episode?
24:22 - How will this season end?
32:32 - Could Val STILL be Mystique?
34:24 - Can Magneto be stopped?
36:21 - Magneto vs Xavier: Who's more disappointing?
40:08 - Is Jean coming back as the Phoenix Force?
43:54 - Will we see other Marvel Heroes in the Finale?
46:49 - "Student" of the week!
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What an episode! We're going to be doing another Lingering Questions episode tomorrow - so drop all your questions and thoughts in a reply here and we might discuss on tomorrow's show!
Who’s the “official” main villain? Bastion created an armada of prime sentinels, but Magneto now has just attacked Professor X and the X-Men.
What’s will be the fate of everyone who got gooed? Did Magneto’s EMP actually kill all the Prime Sentinels, or did it just deactivate them? Bastion mourning his mom made it seem like she died.
If they died, it wouldn’t have mattered if Magneto reversed the world's electricity BEFORE Bastion was neutralized by Gold Team, unless it would cause them to be resurrected. Scott would’ve messed up for preemptively blasting Xavier
Why did Bastion let Magneto live? I was also surprised that Magneto didn’t try to kill him yet
Where was Nightcrawler during the final battles of the episode? They mentioned earlier that he was going to transport all of the x-men to Muri island. Was he just exhausted?
Well from what bastion was seeing in the future or speaking upon when they showed the mutants that were slaves as we should say
Polaris was the one who was fixing the Earth's magnetic field
That's still kind of intrigues me right there
Infinity War parallels: (1) Cyclops pulled a Star-Lord, (2) Logan should’ve gone for the head
Poetry right there
To be fair to Scott if all those Sentinels come back online they’re cooked either way
Yeah but Logan can survive that shit. Magneto is about to either die from the stab or Xavier is gonna go beserk on him at the start of the episode
@@danielcancel2901 Don't you love how so many think Logan is dead.😅
Scott literally saved Gold Team from getting annihilated by reactivated prime sentinels. He wasn’t pulling a Star-Lord at all.
Cyclops doing a reverse call back with the "were you expecting black leather?" line was chef's kiss
Cable doesn't use his powers often because he is constantly using them to keep the techno organic virus at bay.
A fellow Cable fan! He's my favorite comic book character! I hope we get to see Stryfe and X-Man down the road!
@cedricwilcox7583 Man, all I have ever wanted was to see x-man in any format other than comics. So OP haha. But yeah stryfe would be great too!
I would literally foam at the mouth if they brought in X-Man. He's been my favorite since the 90s when he pulled Xavier out he astral plane. And was a parallel to onslaughts plans along with Franklin .
@@MidnightRahYou just made me think of the breakneck pace they'll probably take in S2 to give us 1 or 2 episodes of Age of Apocalypse, to get us X-Man, so he can then be a mcguffin for Onslaught instead of (or with) Franklin Richards.
@@cedricwilcox7583 Hi fellow Summers bloodline fan :D I love Cable, love Stryfe, but my greatest love as a kid reading comics was Nate Grey! Onslaught tapping into Nate's mind and discovering the disaster that was Age of Apocalypse was deeply terrifying. I hope we get to see all the Summers kids!!!
"It doesn't matter... Madelyne fights with me today!" was just the closure we needed.
All I know she died happy knowing her son is alive.
Magneto's retort to charles in this episode reminded me of in dark Phoenix: "you're always sorry, Charles, and there's always a speech and nobody cares anymore"
No one stays dead in comics except uncle Ben and Bruce Wayne’s parents
Loll and the one timeline where bruce's parents are alive, the world has gone to shit
FACTSSSSSSSSSSSS
And Captain Mar-Vell, who died of space cancer in the 80's
And the flash’s mom too. I think 😅
@@tiggertoga yep. Like flashpoint proves why superheroes cant have living parents, well most of them. There are outliers like ms. Marvel
Jean is Cable's Aunt, I don't know why everyone makes it complicated. Jean and Madelyne are twins the same way X-23 is Logan's daughter.
From Cable's perspective, his dad hooked up with his aunt after his mom died.
Laura IS Logan's daughter. The comics dropped the clone thing in 2016, because the process of how she was made was basically IVF. She's Logan's daughter with Sarah Kinney through IVF, essentially. It's just that the DNA sample taken from him was not sperm, that's the only difference. But you're right in saying that Jean is Cable's aunt. The only thing that muddles it is that Jean literally has all of Madelyne's memories, including those of the pregnancy.
Laura is literally Logan's daughter. People kept trying to say she was a clone, but that's not how she was created. She isn't Logan with a different gender, she has a biological mother that half her DNA comes from. The scientist who helped create her is also her bio mom
It’s funny looking at X-23’s inception in X-Men Evolution and looking at the character now
Maybe Jean saying “I love you” and then Scott’s mind cutting to red was the moment that the Phoenix Force took control of Jean’s body and Jean acknowledging that she won’t be able to mentally take back control any time soon.
I really hope so. 🥺 I’d loooooove to see this creative team handle the phoenix force. I bet the animation would be insane.
THANK YOU SO MUCH for acknowledging that exchange between Storm and Jean! That Mind your Weather, and Weather your Mind line! COLD! Best line of the whole episode, followed by "SHUTUP"!
I loved seeing the sisterhood with them, so nice to finally get that
I was literally screaming 😱 It was so good 🤗
First thing: X-Men 97 deserve an Emmy for: animation, music, voice talent, and the writing. So, so good
Lingering Questions:
Q1: Where do you think the Avengers are during all this?
Q2: Did Cap recover his Shield?
Q3: Could we see more fallout next episode? / Or we might see more characters enter this fight?
Extra note: I am familiar with the comics, and know of Onslaught.
But dang there are so many moving parts to this. Still processing episode 9
My vote is in for it.
A1 - Avengers aren't privy to half of what's going on between the X-Men and Bastion so they're probably on the streets giving aid and keeping the peace as best they can. Later on with Onslaught you can expect him though.
A2 - By now probably, lol, but he probably had to call in help.
A3 - More fallout, likely, others joining, probably not, aside from maybe nearby Val Cooper who'd have a reason to be imprisoned nearby.
There all searching through the mountains trying to find caps shield
The writing team for this show needs to do the dialog for Dr.Doom for when he takes over the world.
Man say this again. Louder.
Rogue wearing Gambits jacket
Not anymore.
@@johnsantos507damn
@@oho41 I know. Rogue was wearing Gambit's coat, but she take it off and join Magneto side like she dishonor Gambit's legacy.
Storm knows Bastion is not a mutant. She was there when Charles told them when he went to see him. Then Forge and Beast talking about him being a technopath.
I was thinking that 😂 she was in the roooom
Also you Forgot Forge has a photo with Bastion so they know each other.
I know Wolverine shouldn't have been there to begin with, but who else was gonna actually make the call to kill magneto? Xavier was ready to puppet him temporarily, but unless he was gonna do it forever, it doesn't solve the problem
Who should have been in his place and who from gold team shouldn’t? Because gold team needed forge/ beast with there technical knowledge, storm and jean/cable/morph for firepower knowing how dangerous bastion is.
Morph should have switch with wolverine and night crawler.
We need to put this collar on him.
Night crawler.
Sinister? Yea morph we sending you against magneto.
@@johnking7054 what about switching cable and wolverine? Cable is techno organic and shouldn't be able to be controlled by magneto plus he has telepathy of his own and he'll stay out of Sinisters mind control
They're not doing Onslaught in the finale. They will reveal him in season 2 probably around episode 5. They need Xavier to go dark first.
Exactly 💯
Oh yes! That's my prediction (i.e. hope lol) since the show was announced! My bet was that they'd do Fatal Attraction at the end of season 1, to pull off ONSLAUGHT during the entire season 2. Like you said, we could see Charles descend into despair, then Onslaught revealing himself at episode 5. The rest would be Onslaught smashing the Avengers until Franklin Richards creates the MCU and sends the Avengers inside it 😂
Magnetos "shut up" was FANTASTIC
The weight of Charles mistake in choosing to leave Magneto in charge, and the attack in Genosha, plus Gambit’s death, Wolverines attack and eventually wiping out Magneto’s mind which WILL happen next episode WILL LEAD TO ONSLAUGHT FOR SURE!!!
I feel like magneto was pretty good until genosha happened. Seemed like he could have been pretty good as head of the X men.
Magnetos line to Rouge in episode 5 was a bit toxic but Gatt dayum was it beautifully said.
“Loving you makes broken men whole, so that even as you deny us, our heartache is not in vain.”
Brandon talking about his disappointment in Prof X, I think was de mayo's plan all along. 97 is about Magneto being the one we all eventually agree with.
Exactly: Magneto was right!
The phrase is “nobody ever stays dead in comics, only Uncle Ben and Batman’s parents”!
Night crawler should have been in the gold team so he could just bamf on top of Bastian to put on the band
The way they were fighting Magneto kept making me think of the 90s video game.
Same, with the same costumes as well
Jay don’t let them get you down. This is THEE Breakroom lineup.
My only issue with X-Men ‘97 is that these episodes are not long enough… I feel they should at least be 45 minutes long…. At least..
They said first world "infrastructure" which I think they meant to imply things like hospitals and military forces rather than a class of people
It was their way of stating that even the more highly developed countries were shut down.
Also I give Magnus his dues, he just got SNIKT’D sooo badly yet he still had the willpower to pull out the claws while surviving long enough to use his powers consciously on Logan to fuckkk him up 😅
I love the throwback with Wolverine’s “…the bravest die first” line. Magneto said “The brave are always the first to die” in the final episode of the first X-Men season back in the 90s. Sooooo good!!!
I'm so happy to see my favorite Wolverine costume! The good ol classic brown costume
Pryde of the X-Men costume.
Bastian's assistant Daria is Mystique! I feel like Damayo has reused characters and story lines in a way that it makes sense. In the comics, that same character, Daria, frees Jubilee and I think we will see Daria free the mutants Bastian caught in this episode.
I been waiting ALL DAY for y'all's comments!!!!!! My jaw hit the floor with Wolvie.....and BTW, Jean is alive. She still has the Phoenix.
Cable only has his mother's powers (telepathic/telekinetic), and he actually did use his TK powers once in the show (lifted his rifle).
In the comics, he barely used them, since they are what keeps the techno-organic virus from completely taking over him and killing him.
Once he had to hold a portal open using his TK, and his body changed to metal, and he died
I really wanted a time travel fix bc Gambit is my favorite, but if he has to stay dead (or become Death), at least he went out like a G showing off his power and saving everyone else
Magneto is the goat
I think they’re going to preview Onslaught next week. And the finale next week is gonna be a sad finale.
I did laugh my ass off when magneto told Charles to shut the hell up. Because. Yep.
7:36 I need more Brandon as Remy, stat!
I've never held my adamantium claws so tight 😬... this was EPIC!
Seeing Magneto rip the adamantium out of Wolverine’s body gives me hope for ANY X-men story, and I’ve said it since the idea was brought up, I would prefer an Avengers VS X-men arc through this animated series rather than an entire saga in the MCU as some of you want 😂
I loved the episode but like...why on earth send the metal man to fight the magnet man?
I know wolverine's adamantium is ripped out in the comics. It's one of the most iconic moments in the comics. My complaint is the way it's done here. When everyone is in the planning meeting on where to be most effective they were like "ok, we need two teams. One team takes care of bastion, the other magneto. Ok...wolverine...hmm, i know you're actually really effective against sentinels but instead let's put you up against basically the only person that completely negates anything you bring to the table."
I totally wanted this part of the comics to make its way to the animated series but do it in such a way as to not make everyone seem like idiots for thinking this was a good idea.
It's all comics magneto held back that's why wolverine held back and said there fued is done . It's crazy i have this comic now Logan has bone for claws so glad writers are following the comics . wolverine had to or magneto was gonna kill professor x.
Because that's what happened in the comics lol
Evereybody is probably just as weak to Magneto considering we all have iron in our blood Not sure it would have mattered much who they sent.
It happened nearly the same way in the comics. You Wolverine groupies act like wussies all the time about his beyond overrated ass is handled. Logan always makes dumb decisions in key conflicts. It wouldn't have mattered anyways, Magneto was going to go there.
@@murk4552 not a wolverine fan I'm a comic fan just glad the writer's doing right by comics now I see him saving professor x is why he stabbed mag besides comics.
I’m just here for Jessica ❤
More than the Avengers I would really really like it better if other X-Men characters showed up for the last battle like: Bishop, Mystique, Emma, Colossus, Magik, Betsy, Archangel, X-Factor, etc
I feel Xavier was projecting the life himself onto Jean and Grey.
The end all be all of review shows!
I'm so stoked for savage Wolverine. I hope he stays that way well into the next season.
Holy Shit with that ending!
Magneto saying “Shut up” absolutely killed me 😂👏🏾 I thought he was going to say “No more” or some shit like that but my boy just said STFU 😭
Who can stop Magneto? Why do we WANT to?
I was literally broken towards the end of this episode. There's so many way this season could end and I can't think of anything right now but I'm pumped.
Real question, what did we expect Prof X to really do? He's always talked Magnus down, no matter what. One of the things he loves about him is that he always sticks with his goals and morals. Coming back and having a plan at all with less than a day to figure something out, and having the team split up is tough.
Rogue will save the day she will absorb magneto power and restore the Earth Magnetic field thats the only logical thing , she said she will not see another mutant dying , Wolverine skeleton has been riped off thats pretty close
Theory: Jean being attacked by Cable will actually rebirth Madeline Pryior as the Phoenix.
Wait, did you guys shorten the opening reaction section?
- Brandon's reaction to Wolverine was my favorite.
should be back to the original version in a little bit!
Jessica in the thumbnail. I simply click.
When Jay acknowledged Marvel vs Capcom i was so happy 😭😭 the X-Men were such an integral part of those games
Xavier uses Progressive home and vehicle bundle
I think that Apocalypse is gonna be the big bad for the beginning of season 2, and that story will revolve around saving Gambit whose been rezed and turned into Death, and that will dovetail into Onslaught.
"Xavier acts like everyone can read his mind"
I think the answer to the question of “were they willing or not” is yes and no; they did willingly sign up for the program, but they didn’t necessarily know that they would be turned into nanovirus zombies.
45:02 Polaris is in xfactor, could they ask her to fix the magnetic pole thing? She might not be as powerful as her father, but they could still try.
Give me my leg back had me dieing 😂😂😂
Jay Washington will get this reference, Sunspot giving me Dirty Don Vibes lmao.
Yes he was in prison also. 😂
Alright... for the 50th time today... how is ANY OF THIS Charles' fault? People keep acting like he faked his death or chose to run off to bird space to be w/ his space chick (pun most definitely intended). He was DYING! Only Space Birb Science could save him so they did... why didn't he talk about his plans of what he was going to do when he died w/ Scott? CAUSE HE WAS SHOT! I'm sure he was planning on discussing it with him and then he and Scott could have had the conversation of what they thought was best... but that option was taken away from Charles. And aside from coming straight home, I don't think he could talk to any of them telepathically to let them know he's alright because that seems to be something only he and Illandra can do with one another. So where did Charles mess up? He put Magneto in charge who then was a good ass leader. Saved a bunch of humans. Allowed the UN to try him and even w/ seeing Storm lose her powers in front of him chose to give Charles' method a chance... And then Genosha happens. The purple robo future/past boi sends Cerberus Kaiju Sentinel to wipe out Genosha... so... if Cable can't change the events w/ his god damn TIME POWERS... what is Dr. ThinksReallyHard gonna do by being on planet? He's either sad in the mansion or a corpse on Genosha... so once again why is Charles catching so much hate?! Bastion fucked up his plan... Bastion captured Magneto and set him on the path he's on. Yet everyone now is on the Magneto train which is the same train as Bastion and Friends of Humanity just on the other tracks... kill em all for the actions of the few bad ones.
He literally took that choice away from them and treated everyone like he knew better, the worse of all being his "students". He put Magneto in a position he was not ready to handle... And though he could be good at it, the world was not ready to accept him in that position. Thus the trail of Magneto to begin with... Keep in mind it wasn't the X-Men they wanted but Magneto who is a known terrorist and murder (he does kill innocents as well) it's arrogance at its finest
@@MidnightRah Okay... but lets go over this again... you say he took choice away from them. He drew up his will with his student's best interest in mind. I'm sure in an ideal scenario he would have had time to talk about it with them (specifically Scott) but he was shot! It's not like he was just like "Ehh I'm bored of monkey space... lemme go to bird space!"
Magneto was already a leader, and seemed perfectly capable and prepared to lead the X-Men... he did great as their leader. People both in the show and talking bout it act like they didn't watch the show and Magneto was out here abusing his power and shit. It wasn't until he saw two more major human attacks on mutants that Magneto said "Enough" and turned the lights out.
Even though it's not the choices people liked, Charles made the right calls. Magneto was ready to reform, Scott and Jean should have been free to go live a happy life. But Bastion and Sinister destroyed those NOT Charles... Charles being around wouldn't have changed how anything played out. Nor would it have changed if Scott was the leader.
@@Grimbear13your second paragraph holds the key point in all of this if we took Xavier out of the equation for a second. Had Magneto not been with the X-Men when Bastion executed his plans, he would still be on this warpath.
The "oh so bad" thing is bypassing Scott to give Scott a life. Everything else is academic at best and people piling on Charles in a revisionist way that he should have had rebuttals for. The guy took a chance on a friend and powerful rival in the one way that actually got him to try good for a change. I'm with you that Charles's actions aren't as bad as people would make it seem.
" The Brave are always the first to die" was a quote Magneto made in the Season 1 Ep 13
Roberto getting an X costume was completely overlooked 😅 I was like wait are we just going to skip over how he’s an X-man now?
Master mold calls Bastion a mutant in the flashback... The most powerful mutant..
another thought on seeing other Heroes in 97, a Captain Marvel and Rogue focused episode would be a good story and could file into a self-discovery arc after all her trauma this season
I actually believe the gambit will come back. I believe that the psychic flash that Xavier saw when he was counseling that Shiar on why him and Lilandra should be married, gambit popped on screen, looking like his death persona from Apocalypse. Which leads me to speculate that since we’ve already seen Apocalypse briefly in some parts of the opening, I believe that apocalypse will come back in season two or three and gambit will also come back as Horseman death.
So glad to see big dawg with the Hat
This is my favorite breakroom lineup
This is the greatest show on TV/Streaming right now.
Doesn't cerebro become a living thing called danger maybe that's what bastion was talking to.
Danger is the danger room AI sentience given a Robotic body. Cerebro is a separate system, but even that actually gets some robot action as Cerebrax.
14:55 I did nottt think they would show his claws cleanly coming out of the other side of Magneto 😂 dam,
That line was one out of respect and I rated Logan more for it, also the rest were 100% standing there thinking that exact thing 😂
We love you JESSSSSS❤
I think Bishop comes back at the right time to save the day
They (we) need to know where the mind blasts came from
I fell for Morph’s trickery, AGAIN 😖😅 with that Mr Sinister play
I wish when Charles called out, "To Me my X-Men" all different X characters show up and Phoenix rocks in Omega level like Carol Danvers in Endgame
Thus is definitely where deadpool pulled wolverine from
Can somebody explain to me why Xavier is such a wuss in this series? In comics Charles can mindcontrol anyone he wants in a 215 miles radius, not to mention him mass stunlocking people. Why he didn't mind control Rogue to give Magnus a nice warm choke and suck all his powers to give the gold team on ground more time? I don't get why they are nerfing his powers since the OG series of 92.
Them two lines between Storm and Jean nearlyyyy had me man 😢 this episode nearly got me a few times 😅
This is my A team ..
Did anyone notice that Magneto didn't say anything to Storm after he saw her after that event where she has lost her powers he didn't say oh Storm I see you gotten your powers back or see you are a true Goddess in your new form.!
I don’t get it, does Storm not want Bastion to fully lose his powers?
Loving this show but I was definitely underwhelmed by Xavier throughout the season. Well written villainy is all well and good but at the end of the day the good guys should win and we need compelling heroes to articulate why they’re the heroes
other reviewers are trying to say this wolverine is the one in Deadpool / wolverine I don’t see that since now 97’ wolverine will have his bone claws back so not the same wolverine at all also if onslaught is the big bad possibly of the series would it be too far fetched to think that the MCU is actually the Heroes Reborn universe if this is all supposed to connect at some point
I thought Gambit was coming back with time travel until we saw his funeral so then I’m like he can come back with a Krakoa storyline
Ohhh that’s what that was with Morph turning into Hulk 🤦🏽♂️ I was like what’s with the blue energy field and super fast fighting but now it makes sense 😅
I'm not theorizing…
20:13 Reunion is when Jean & Madelyn showed up in the 90’s
The only thing there is to say about Wolverine stabbing Magneto ...he should have gone for his head.
4:05 I was thinking what is she gonna say with “after being…” and I shouldn’t of expected anything different from Jess 😂
I know yall don’t want a timeline reset, but I think that this timeline is incredibly incredibly fudged, so to semi realistically fix this.
Bishop shows up and Cable, realizing Bishop can go to genosha without getting yanked out, is filled with the events and go to jene/mandylyne and they share the events with the need to know ppl(magnes, Scott, maybe president kelly(?) prepare for the attack . It doesn’t 100% prevent the massacre and gambit still sacrifices himself along with Mandylne against the kaiju sentinel.
It’s a bitter sweet overall victory and magneto doesn’t go full planatary but, knowing the other timeline and still losing some mutants does make him radical and begins to militarize the genoshan survivors(this also still makes xavior return).
With the events relatively better than before we close out with jene telling cable mandalyn is still within her before a lukewarm goodbye.but before credits roll we see gambits grave has been dug up and we see the horsemen war walking away with the coffin.
Where's Sabretooth, Juggernaut and the Brotherhood of Mutants (Avalanche, Blob, Pyro)? I hope they appear in the second season of X-Men 97. Toad could join them too. How did Black Tom Cassidy react to his brother's death in Genosha? Maybe Banshee's daughter Siryn exists?
We need reaction videos of these episodes!!
Never thought Magneto would tell Xavier to you know Shut Up.
Danger room VR would be COOL
I do wonder if they will unlock her second mutation. Jean ended up getting the ability to absorb Psionic energy and mimic the phoenix powers. I kind of hope that they do that instead
This combo is gold! 🏅🏅🏅
I have always and still am in the camp that Magneto is right; Charles should shut up and listen more; Wolverine is annoying; Cyclops is not as bad as the Wolverine fandom wants him to be; and Gambit is the best X-Man.
I was annoyed at Charles clutching his pearls over what Magneto did to Wolverine but did not protest when Eric/Magnus was being stabbed. What was the man supposed to do?
Am I the only person that thought of The Kingsman 2 end fight scene during all of this ????