R34 VS R35: Which is better?
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- čas přidán 31. 03. 2021
- The R34 GT-R is an amazing car, but are there better cars for the same money? You betcha. Let's compare the R34 to the R35 and see what else we can get for the money.
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Yes but, which will be a better engine for a Skyline, a Gallo 12 or a Gallo 24?
Uh... Gallo 24
I didn’t know pizza places made motors
Gallo 24
12? 24? You're confused pizza boy...use a vr38dett
Just slam a pizza in there and go to the dragstrip
"I wanted Pamela Anderson as a girlfriend but damn that choise won't aged well" 😂😂😂 what a legend 😂
On a technical level: *R35*
In our hearts: *R34*
On official motorsports:R32
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R33 anyone
@@ixm2unvrz hell ya r33 all day everyday
But what about the R31? :(
What about the R29?
Bought your son an s14? Are you currently accepting adoption papers?🤣
nah he didnt get a s14 to give to his son, he had a s14 as a project car and when the time cane for his son to drive thats when he gave it to him, but im sure he turned into a drifter sooner or later though.
We need an r36 that looks like an r34 and drives like a modern beast
Yes, please.
R35 is way more aerodynamic
@@zogbog6483 r34 looks way better
@@bigbadvicHo depends on who you ask
@@zogbog6483 majority of the world would agree with me
I got really into the R34 after 2Fast 2Furious, so thanks for being part of that👏
Same here
I concur
So did literally the rest of the JDM world. They'd be like 15k right now if not for that movie.
I thought was a 1993 honda accord, from the front it was similar to me
Kid me thought it was cool back then but after a tiny bit of research and watching the 4th film I prefer the that one
Can't believe how emotional I get about this stuff. Thanks for such a positive impact on my childhood Mr Lieberman
You gave your son a s14 drift car, best dad ever lol
where can I sign up for adoption?
the envy, my absolute dream car. being a marine in japan twice is when I fell in love with the GTR
R34 for nostalgia but R35 for maximum performance and technology
Yeah basically
I like how he got real at the end tho
"Spend the money on something better"
It is 100% an emotional purchase. Love everything about it from looks, feel, and sound. Which is also exactly why I could never purchase one. Over priced and out of reach now compared to a few years ago. Still one can dream or hope.
All I ever wanted was an EG6 Si-R (Yes Shingo's car) and my own small shop. Sounds weird but, I want to open a tuning shop but also help disadvantaged families/students in need of getting their cars fixed. I'm 31 hopefully by 34 I can make this dream come true.
Civics are a good tuner car. Sounds like a fairly reasonable dream. Best of luck my friend.
@@sauceboss2210 ありがとう👍
Good luck, brother.
I love the Engineered Explained quip in the video.
Thanks for the Shoutout Craig!:)
I would have an R34 GTR over the R35 GTR any day, and I think the rising values reflect this. However, both cars were on the cutting edge of technology upon their release.
R34 definitely wasn’t cutting edge anymore. There’s only very basic changes mechanically between r32 and r34. R32 was cutting edge.
@@nathan2483 The display certainly was and it's carried over and improved torque vectoring AWD system was still not found in any rival car at any price range close to it. You could watch TV in your R34 GTR in Japan in 1999 for God's sake! The R34 also beat the benchmark Ferrari and Porsche of the time in cornering, braking and getting off the line. Go watch best motoring, if it had 80 more HP it would have toasted the fastest dealer sold street cars of the time.
@@manveerghuman5276 sorry dude, I was around them when they were pretty much new. They couldn’t keep up with 996 turbos on a wet track. Like not even close. I love them, I still want one, but not for the silly money they’re going for. As for torque vectoring, that was all just slightly evolved from the r32.
@@nathan2483 yeah by the time the R34 came out the Rb26 was a 11 year old design. Older if you consider it came from the Rb20det in the HR31s.
Nissan engineers wanted to go V6 for the R34 but Nissan was close to broke at the time.
@@nathan2483 yeah but you realize those cars have more power right? Go watch a more powerful R34 like and S, R or Z Tune, the will spank pretty much all of the fast cars of it's time.
R34 ftw. The r35 is technically an audacious car with insane performance and potential but the layout change, engine change(no longer a i6) and driving like a video game no longer make it a Skyline Gtr. Important difference that, cool car though, insane to fix though
R34 🤤
I always loved the R34 but as a R35 owner i wouldnt trade it for a R34 at all, its a superior car in every way.
that hurt watching the White R34 getting crushed
Patiently prowling in shadows vs. Young enthusiast's wet dream
Dude, you’re everywhere💀
Cringe
34 is the car that my generation loves.
35 is the car the next generation loves
Craig should do a videos talking about every cars he had owned ...what a nice taste he have
I had both R35 and R34. 3 x R34s until now and 2x R35s. And 2 x Supra MK4. My current R34 is the beast. Prices of R34s will go only higher in time, so buying one is not a bad decision. Performance of a stock r34, nope... Fun? yeah!
BTW, Please give SOURCES when you use somebody else's footage. You sit and talk this is nice, however, I shot from 11:13 to 11:23 myself for my channel. Be fair.
Thanks for the vid.
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Saving for a house while watching your dream car go up in price is truly painful (not a GTR btw)
What is it
I'm a nerd and a purist. I specifically wanted a 92 because it was the last year they were allowed to race. I also bought one that came from Yokohama. I found the original owner of the car, who told me that he drove it on both Q-Chan and the Bayside run. It's a white series 2, so only about 1800 of those were made. I built it originally to 630hp (using the stock low-mount twins configuration) because that's how much the Group A cars had to start with. Later I turned it up to 2.0 bar for about 750whp. I then roll-raced an R35 up to 170mph (down in Mexico) and we were side by side the whole time. The car is amazing and even grips like crazy on wet pavement with 255's square. Yes, all successive models after the R32 are better, but even a Series 2 R32 is still one extremely impressive machine, and I like that it's very mechanical still, so has a very raw feel, unlike a lot of modern supercars I've driven that feel very disconnected from the road. Honestly, I think the RB26 series of cars are near perfection, and the RB can be built to stupid HP that at least in a straight line can keep up with most average R35s (except the 2000+hp monsters we have here in Colo).
Edit: I purchased the car with 20k original miles on it for 28k. I put another 22k into it for parts and labor for the build. It has a full track suspension setup and Nismo wheels with solid tires for racing, so it still might not carve corners as fast as an R35, but I only have a total of about 55k in it vs a LOT more for a bone-stock R35. It really boils down to what you want to experience in your ownership.
9:14 broke my heart 💔😭
Hurrt my soul
Love the content man! Never stop creating !
There is an importer in my area that has a 1991 r32 sitting in the showroom right now asking $40k it's got 153km/94mi showing it looks great.
Both are great but the r34 looks cooler, it's a shame that the r32, r33, and r34 were not sold in America.
R34 = Collectors primary objective to Stash them , If anybody buys them they would not use them, replacement parts are hard to get and expensive, the Network for R34 is not like the SR20DET, People will be scared to show them off because of thieves
R35 = Usable, Parts are still expensive but easier to get compare to the R34, If your a DIY'er the R35 won't be that intimidated by maintenance and wrenching under the hood.
I believe the insurance will be more for the R34
Price = R34 vs R35 = The winner R35, the R34 price once their legal in the U.S over $100k and plus if a NSX on Top Rank website (import a vehicle) right now (4-1-2021) for $99,995 just picture it for the R34.
Craig lieberman, I know you probably won't remember me but you were in south carolina in your uber m3 back in 2007 or 2008 I was in a 2004 rx8 we met while cruising around and you showed me around your m3. You're a pretty cool guy, thanks for that and the videos.
Been waiting for something like this.
Dam... your son got an s14 as a first car. Thats savage.
r32 > all other gtrs in terms of looks. the r35/34 might have better technology but the r32 is a beauty
Nah r34 is best in all fields
One of the biggest drawbacks of buying an R34 is the availability and pricing of spare parts, if you plan on actually driving it and keeping it as oem as possible (to keep those resell prices up). Imagine not driving your car for 3 months plus, because you can't get the parts at once etc... And if you find them, you'll pay a very hefty R34 tax on them ;).
we can always overnight parts from Japan (^__^)
@@paulinelambert7780 It wouldn't be overnight though. But I'm pretty sure Nissan are making replacement parts for those R32/33/34 Skylines/GTRs.
Great video great explanation I dreamt of this car, but I settled for a M4 Competition. At the end of the day the cost value proposition just wasn’t there for me and Craig explained it towards the end perfectly.
I’m only a bit younger than you Craig, and I had the opportunity to drive r32/33/34’s and supras during the early 2000’s here in Australia. They’re all great cars but the dollars that the west is paying for them at the moment is simply stupid. They were undeniably quick for their time, but the nineties were not the sixties and seventies when everyone was making go fast cars. And in comparison to today’s options, they are adequately powered when modified.
But the two things that nobody ever talks about, specifically the gtr’s, is Nissan interior quality was terrible, and the gtr is such a highly strung car, it’s absolutely always breaking stuff. It’s quite possibly the least reliable car Nissan made world wide during the nineties.
I think the 90s was the Golden era of tech and turbos especially Japanese hero cars that it kind of mirrored the 60s Muscle cars but instead of cubes it was turbos.
All those 90s cars had poor plastics, my FD in particular shits me in terms of interior quality.
My Nissan Stagea (260rs) was a lot better, but it was also a higher priced car. R34s were far better than R32/R33 interiors however. The R32 interiors are fairly bad.
@@gav240z I’ll cop that to a degree, but essentially r33 and r34 are running maxima interiors. And I wouldn’t say that’s good. Other than the seats, there’s literally nothing special about gtr interiors (besides the r34 screen that’s always broken)
@@nathan2483 it's not European quality that's for sure. But values are not really about interior quality, it's about hero status cars as you know.
@@gav240z but when you’re paying euro exotic money (at 400k aud that’s pretty deep in exotic territory) then these are the things that matter. At 250k you have gallardo superleggera, at 300k you have 599’s, at 400k you have mercielago’s and 675lt’s. This is a real problem for the gtr and supra.
I agree with your statement, but how many people will pay that head vs heart price? And how many will actually have the wallet to cover the cost.
@@nathan2483 I don't know why, but I still want an R34 GTR, but not interested in the other exotics. I just want 1 even if it's totally irrational.
I have the 260rs Stagea, but I still want a GTR..
Do you see how expensive those old Lambos are? They were easily outpaced by cars a few years after they were made. Yet the values still go up because people love the car.
I love the R34, my favorite car, but the only way to buy one is by being a millionaire. There is no way; I'm taking a $250k loan to buy it. Probably $50k-70k that's it.
R34 gtt body + genuine r34 gtr quarter panels(Nissan heritage collection), + Vr38 swap?
@@BriShep123 that sounds about right. Thats about the $80-90k, or maybe less.
@@BriShep123 vr38 wouldn't fit until you throw some real money lol, i say sticking to rb25 will do
@@mac_19 ok
What a great line for the intro of the video.
Manual, manual all the way. No way I am driving an auto/DSG performance car. Speed isn't on my top list, I much prefer driver engagement and in control
Initial D was my intro to r32 r33 and R34... always good to see a vid from you Craig!
Have to agree, I’d have to go with the New Godzilla, just as I wouldn’t want my 97 TSIAWD back again nearly 20 years later. No matter how great it was then, the reality is that performance has exponentially moved on.
Craig, the S14 drift car
Please do a video of it
Today i saw a s14 with a r33 front end on it, looked rough
Been waiting for this
I think we all have
Here in the Caribbean isles of Trinidad and Tobago our market is JDM. First time I saw a GT-R R34 was in 1998. Brand new. Years before I saw the R32 and R33. We had them down here in the production year it was released. Seeing it and hearing the RB engine, which also was in the Nissan Laurels and A31 Cefiro, you'd definitely want one. Grand Turismo and FF, who needed that to learn of these iconic cars, when you got to be right next to one in person. Even be driven. Was too young to drive. But an experience you'll never forget!
R34 and it isn't even close. I6 > V6, you can't change my mind.
I can give you credibility if you've actually had both. Have you?
All those performance metrics stock vs stock may be true, and I don't disagree with it at all. You simply don't compete against 20 years worth of advancing technology. But the thing is, if we're talking aesthetics which wasn't compared because it's a subjective thing... the R-34 trounces the R-35, all day every day. It's an absolutely stunning car, an iconic car. Popular culture may have A LOT to do with that, but it is what it is. The R-35 is never going to be as iconic as the R-34 was in terms of aesthetics. Hell I'd even argue the R-33 is a better looking car than the R-35. It's the same story with the A80 vs A90 Supras. All else being equal, I'd take a nearly 20 year old A80 over an A90 any day in the week, even if the A90's weren't glorified BMWs and had kept the legendary 2JZ.
Aesthetics play a large role in why we buy the cars we buy. Then you have performance, and other metrics like whether a car is a good modding platform, etc. I admit that the looks of the R-35 have grown on me over the years, especially the eye-watering priced Nismo trim, but it still doesn't hold a candle to the R-34. If money was no object to me, and I could only have one GTR, It'd absolutely be a Midnight Purple 3 R-34 V-Spec II. I'd say Z-Tune but I gotta be a little realistic here.
Back wit another one 🔥
Tbh I think the R35 GTR is a cheat code on wheels. Every street racing scene is always dominated by whoever has a GTR and enough bank to mod it. There’s even a GTR World Cup. Having AWD, launch control, and an automatic transmission basically means the thing drives itself. Look at 1320 video and tell me I’m wrong
As an old school 46 years old person I would prefer a manual R34 to my R35 but in my region is impossible to get one and the right driving side option made things even worse. The R35 is driving machine with a brutal acceleration and also easy to drive even everyday. I don't like modern automatic gearboxes but it seems this is how car tech goes.
Thanks for this video Craig. It is an emotional decision to own one of these, and most people can’t see it.
Hard to say but R34 GTR takes the cake for Nostalgia but it won’t beat the old 70s GTRs
Proper Hakosuka GTRs are arguably unicorn level. Even non-GTR variants are absurdly up there in price.
Early 1970’s GTR all day long
I'm pretty nostalgic for the R34, but the R35 was a pretty decent evolution as well.
If you want performance the R35 is just better. Those VR38s are no joke.
I wish they continued the “skyline” lineage, even tho the new age gtr is called an R35 it doesn’t really have the skyline element to it
While performance numbers are clearly better on the R35, I still think the R34 is a better looking car as far as style goes.
I own a 35 but my heart will always belong to the 34.. ☺
Good luck bro maybe one day u own both
what is 78k worth today?
110 grand?
I saw a R34 yesterday and it is beautiful
I saw about 2 r35 were i live, there sound is so different from anything and saw a gallardo a while back
Happy to take either, bayside blue, unmodified, right hand drive. Thanks.
Hey Craig! If you ever make it up to Minnesota/Wisconsin we have a big German meet coming up on July 11th if you're interested. Reason 1. lots of fans 2. cool content 3. Food beer and german car enthusiasts.
GT-R is the real deal but let's be honest. Non GT-R R34s are much better and more affordable. Besdies the collector's car aspect it's much more reasonable to buy GT-T or even a GT model with manual, put GT-R "inspired" front bumper, get a giant wing and invest some money into performance parts. Such car will never be as desirable as a genuine GT-R, but it will look and and sound pretty much the same. Heck, I honestly like how stock GTT looks like.
The r34 is a legend but I'm more attracted to the r35 body, I'm in love with the shape of the roof how it goes down towards the back, the lines and the backlights but at the end of the day I know Iwould end up wanting both cars, I dont care which one is better both are beasts.That's why Craig is my hero since he has own both.
The back of the r35 is sexy the front not so much
@@claudedottin1312 it's not that bad for my liking but i do think they should of been different, the headlights resemble more the ones from a 350z.
@@EddieG582 exactly!
@@claudedottin1312 That's just me can't find any defects on that car, it's like they say love makes you blind and I'm in love with them.
@@EddieG582 it’s like the civic type R I love the front but not the back but don’t get me wrong not saying I don’t like the r35
I like the R35 GTR it's a awesome car but for me personally the R34 skyline will always be my #1 favorite Japanese sports car of all time and my dream car someday.
I want a freaking s15 so bad... I can't wait till they start getting legit legal here... I know a few folks with them and they are so sweet.
Thanks for the shoutout Craig 😂. Upgraded turbos are cars are currently sitting at 800Hp
1:53 I remember Sam Mitani (IIRC) of R&T doing an article on the Blackbird the year prior but never knew until now that you eventually bought it.
I found my new fav channel
R32 obviously 🙄 r32 cal sonic grew up watching that car racing but between these two r34 is my favorite
The one I can buy parts at Pepboys incase I break down on the side of the road lol
great video! when it comes to this debate, I'd say to each their own. Both amazing cars!
Japanese cars are the best sports cars over the Germans and Italians because of reliability, no one wants to mess with old M products or old AMGs because they will cost a shit load in repairs lmao
Cant go wrong with a 300zx, evo, supra, and etc!
996 turbo which literally has a engine out of a gt1 race car that can reliably make 700hp on a stock trans and bottom end : *sad turbo noises*
How can you crush my dreams and get my hopes up all in one vid? You're a mad genius Mr. Lieberman.
Well, my first contact with aR34 was playing metropolis street racer in dreamcast, I never saw this car before in my life, and I was. Immediately haunted, it is and it will be my impossible love, great video
Oh God you got to drive some amazing rides I'm jealous af 😫
You said it, Craig - it's an emotional purchase. However, I was never exposed to that car growing up, and I've only recently (in my mid 20's) become a mega fan boy of the R34. I think if you know enough about the car, its history, its character, and appreciate the timeless aesthetics of the car, plus its performance potential, you can very quickly fall in love with it without an ounce of nostalgia.
My heart wants the r34 to win. But my mind says it's probably the r35. Either way both are unobtainium for me.
Never meet your heroes I guess.
I do have a selfie with an r34 GTT. So I was up close to one at least.
Never say never mane
@@nick3777 What are the odds of winning the lottery? I live in Australia so it's much easier to get a GTR here but they're still not cheap. Hell, even non-GTR Skylines are going up in price.
I sense a flame war coming...
Thanks for the vid, straight to the point as always. Japanese supercars are the best cause they are reliable enough to drive them everyday.
Skyline r34 GTR ALL DAY
I’d rather get an R34 gtst
THANKS BRO.
Does he have a video on his personal cars?
Basically. The the R34 is not for a person that wants to show off.
The R34 is for a person who wants to experience the ownership of the car after years of wanting to even see one.
The R35 too.
I'd settle for a nice Purple R33 V-spec, or a Mint R30 Turbo to be honest...
Ok... Who am I kidding. I desperately want a Millenium Jade R34, but I'm 20 years old. I will never get to even see one, let alone drive and own one
I feel the same.
I’m in the same boat, I would want an R34 in white but I’m ok with settling down for an R33 or worst case scenario an R32. I’m not much younger than you and with how prices are looking, the future ain’t looking bright for us who want to be in the position to get our dream R34
Thankfully I’m a FD fanboy but the pre R35 GTR are amazing to witness
The getting laid and front row valet parking bit had me laughing hysterically lol My experience with my MK4 Supra is a little different though
Hey! 2:59 That's Cars & Coffee in The Netherlands 😁
This is the guy that supplies the cars and help make Fast and the Furious PART 1
That E46 was so nice
Love those wheels on it, and the colour.
This guy brings new meaning to the words blunt and reality check.
Looking for opinion on value
2015 black series GTR 34,000 miles
Some mods. What do you think the car is worth? California car
Strawbee ice-cream for the win!!
Thing is, u could easily make the R34 crush a stock r35, 800whp is possible and u would look a millions times cooler in it. Probably the coolest car ever built (apart from an escort cosworth obv)
How were track days at that time? Did you have to be a club or track member? Track days now seem more accessible than even ten years ago.
Gran Turismo 2 was the 1st place I saw the R34 & I loved driving the Pennzoil Nismo R34 Gt-R
R34 VS R35, the choice that determines if you're a 9 or 10 year old
i love both
R34. Mostly for looks and its weight. A lot more power from a lighter platform.
This channel could be so much better if our man Craig got a better editor...