FLIGHT DECK SAFETY - HAZARDS OF FLIGHT DECK -- 1967 USS FORRESTAL VIETNAM ERA A-6, F-4, A-3 80414
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- Made to promote flight deck safety, this Vietnam era film "Hazards of the Flight Deck" features footage shot aboard USS Forrestal (CVA-59). It was made in 1967, the same year that the ship suffered a terrible fire that cost 134 lives. It is unclear whether the film predates the fire, or was made in its wake. At 1:15, an A-4 Skyhawk is shown on the deck of the Forrestal, and at 1:21 is an F-4 Phantom. At 8:14 a flying dumptruck, the A-1 Skyraider, is seen. At 2:12, a closed circuit television system shows a Skyhawk landing. At 2:20, a Douglas A-3 Skywarrior tail 142662, breaks the wire and sails off the deck of the carrier. Many in the crew became casualties as a result of the incident, and the film examines the safety risks and policies that help ensure flight deck safety. These include at 5:15, a look at the issue of safe handling of rockets and missiles. (The fire aboard Forrestal in 1967 was due to mishandling of a Zuni rocket by a member of the deck crew.) At 11:10, SH-2 Seasprite helicopters are shown in use on the flight deck. At 12:21 the arresting cable is seen moving across the flight deck. At 13:04, another A-3 Skywarrior accident is seen. At 13:19, another flight deck accident is shown, this one involving what appears to be a Grumman F9F Panther. At 13:30, a jet tumbles off the flight deck into the sea. At 13;40, a North American FJ-2/-3 Fury crashes into parked aircraft. At 14:00 the narrator repeats the admonition that crew members should reduce their exposure on the flight deck. At 14:48 LOX or liquid oxygen is shown being used to service aircraft, and the risk of fire described. At 15:50, nighttime operations are shown and a discussion of the use of red illumination to promote night vision. At 16:30, a coffee cup is filled by a crew member going on night duty.
The USS Forrestal (CV-59) superseded Shinano of World War II vintage as the largest aircraft carrier ever built by full load displacement and was the first to specifically support jet aircraft. The ship was affectionately called "The FID", because James Forrestal was the first ever Secretary of Defense, FID standing for "First In Defense". This is also the slogan on the ship's insignia and patch. She was also informally known in the fleet as the "Zippo" and "Forrest Fire" or "Firestal" because of a number of highly publicized fires on board.
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As a Cold War Era Navy Recruit, we were shown the flight deck footage of the "Forest Fire" from it's beginning. As a result of the fire and deaths of many sailors, the Navy learned that every crew member aboard a ship should be trained and continually drilled in Firefighting and Damage Control, no matter what their job or rank was...
To those who sacrificed their lives in Peace and War Time, Fair Winds and Following Seas.
One of our family friends Ronnie Costello was on the Forrestal when it happened and my cousin Donnie was on the WASP when they tow them back
I saw this as a safety flick when I served in 1972 during aviation fundamentals school. The stray voltage warning in this flick was determined to be the cause of the Forrestal fire. Each carrier had a nickname. The Forrestal was known as the USS Forest Fire. There were other fires on this ship. One of them was arson that caused an extended cruise for my ship while it was repaired to relieve us. We named it The Zippo after that.
Me too, Millington, Tennessee 1972
I spent four years on that ship. '68-'72
If a sailor is cut in half by snapped arrestor cable, does that mean he retires at half pay?
If the sailor somehow survives, does that mean he is half rations?
Lloyds of London said a carrier flight deck is the most dangerous workplace in the world. As a forrmer USAF type, I have nothing but respect for the sailors who work there.
Another excellent and informative documentary film 🎥 thanks for the upload PF. 😀👍🇬🇧🏴
I remember watching this during Navy boot camp RTC San Diego in 1987.
I think we seen it in Great Lakes back in '01 just before sept 11
Nice New periscope film intro for 2020.
Some of us still call it the
USS Forest Fire.
Almost certainly made before the fire, because the extensive repairs were not completed in 1967.
From 19 September 1967 to 8 April 1968, Forrestal was then repaired at the Norfolk Naval Shipyard, Virginia
While my RTC San Diego boot camp company watched the USS Forrestal deck fire training film, the horrific crash PSA Flight 182 occurred in a local neighborhood. When we came outside for a break, a tremendous cloud of dark smoke from that crash darkened the sky above us. Here we were, watching a movie about a fiery catastrophe and there is a real one happening outside, at the same time. 134 guys died in that terrible carrier disaster, 144 perished in that airliner crash. The memory of that gruesome morning will never disappear.
I was there too Co 142 remember it well, what I don’t remember is where our additional training for us Airedale’s was, I went on to serve on the Midway V-1 div 78-82, remember watching this film in class.
@@michaeltipton1919 I don't remember where it was either but I do remember that my desk in the Airedale class was by the open window in the back. Below was a tall stone wall and a giant Weinershnitzl sign protruded over it. Our ABH1 instructor told us Shellback crossing stories which I would go on to experience on my own...four times! 🤣🤣
Spent 12 years as a squadron AO and this was my work environment on 8 deploymemts and many many more workup detachments. 2/3 onlf that time was night shift. The flight deck is a whole new world doing flight ops at night.
If they only knew what was coming for that ship.. ☹️
So the old types of bombs of the WWII are to blame for everything, as I read.
@@Sky_Ellie The Zuni rocket was responsible for starting the fire, I believe a Zuni was also responsible for starting the 1969 Enterprise fire as well.
But, the WW2 era bombs certainly made the situation a lot worse. Those bombs caused the first major explosion that wiped out the crash crew, fire crew, and the foam hoses.
Huh, they didn't say anything about touchy rockets or ancient bombs.
I was a flight deck troubleshooter on the USS Wasp in 1965 and had no training on flight deck safety at all. None, nada, zilch. I was with VS-31.
I worked the flight deck on the forrestal 72-73 , also the indy, sara and nimitz
Steve Hill AT2 RVAH-9 , RA5C Vigilantes
I remember this film in AO A school in 83 along with the Forrestal Fire video. After the fire, starting in 69/70 every squadron member was sent to Aviation Fire Fighting classes every 24 months.
4 carriers 72 to 77 never went to fire fighting school. No flight deck safety training . OJT
I worked flight deck trouble shooting night shift on the Forrestal 69-70 on the Vigilantes RVAH-13. Ed Gnas AMH-2
@@1ergnas1 ...a hoot hoot from a heavy9 hootowl Ed.. 72-77
I think they show this in bootcamp
A busy dangerous place to be - aircraft carrier deck. I'm amazed they operate at night...
🇺🇸GO NAVY 👍
Amazing find! Love these old military docs. Now if you excuse me I have a hearing appointment with the VA. My head phones just blew both eardrums.
Excellent movie and such beautiful aircraft. I'm SO sick of seeing F-18s everywhere! These were truly magnificent warplanes... I miss them so much.
Thanks for this 👍
God rest their souls.
USS Forest Fire
It's crazy seeing this, knowing that a lot of these men on film died in the fire.
This was my 2nd flat top after CV-64
Top ten pictures before disaster
WAITE- - - There's a McStain on the deck - we'll call it SONGBIRD!
the Naval Educational & Training Command Presents....."The Forestfire".
This is a no-fun zone.....or "dicking the Dogg".......
Then they didn't wear float coats. A jacket with an inflatable bladder, inflated by co2 cartridges. At least that's the way it was in 80's and 90's.
Guess they didn't whatch their own film.......
hey! I saw John McCain!!
Hey I saw reality blow right past you
John Mccain was a Skyhawk pilot.
He pointed his aircraft outboard from the deck, and launched all of the missles from his Skyhawk, thereby minimizing the probability of additional loss of life.
McLame was the cause of MANY needless deaths and millions of dollars of damage. He was NO hero
That's totally impossible. 1st, I've seen the film of him jumping from his parked aircraft as the fire was approaching it. There's no way he, by himself, could turn his aircraft around. 2nd, the weapons interlocks would prevent him from firing his weapons while on the deck. The most he could do is jettison some of the weapons straight onto the deck, but I don't know if he could even do that, nor would there be any reason to do that. No, the most he could do was exit the aircraft and get to safety.
And here we go with the false John McCain stories! Love these morons!
Obviously you never had to watch the DC training films those of us who served did. Or maybe you were that pansy bee-yatch who blew the corpsman to get out of training. Run along junior, before reality lands it's puerco up your arse ..
My older cousin said the flight deck was the most dangerous job there was LSO had yr life
In thier hands and trust was a mustache
Any mention of wet starting your engine?
BB: Jet engines are not 'wet started". And 'No", John McCain had nothing to do with starting the fire on Forrestal. It was caused by a malfunction in another jet.
Any mention of you suck starting a tractor?
Thought some would ...ge t a ,.....CD,,respectfully
Did John McCain watch this?
HH: McCain had nothing to do with causing any flight deck accidents.
13:40 !oh sh........
That didn't go very well then ...
Many a sailor has died upon the flight deck of the Aircraft Carrier ..
There's nothing funny about it, it's gruesome, and devastating to whomever a family back home.
The Navy has this about as tight as it can these days, but all it takes is ONE wrong step...💥
john mccains legacy
Better than your legacy
@@logankfI notice you are defending John McStain in every comment. Did he sleep with you when you were a child or something?
Too bad John McCain paid no attention to flight deck safety
DS: McCain had nothing to do with causing any flight deck accidents.
How do you figure? He was simply sitting in his parked jet waiting to launch. His jet had nothing to do with the accident except later when it caught fire like a bunch of other planes.
Too bad you paid no attention to reality
The admiral’s son Senator “Wet Start” obviously slept this or else he was daydreaming about abandoning his wife and children.
And all you suck started was your boyfriend