16" M3 MacBook Pro - One Month Later... HOW!?
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The 16" M3 Max MacBook Pro is the most powerful laptop I have ever owned and it rivals the power that is inside my Mac Studio... so much so that for the first time in all of my years owning a Mac computer I am considering ditching my Mac desktop and making this MacBook Pro my only computer...
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Thanks for sharing. Blessings on your day!
Hey Greg great video! I watched you years ago when I was buying my Mac, glad you're still making great, informative videos. Might check out these M3 Macs.
I own a m1 max already but I'm going to upgrade not necessarily for the improved performances but because I miscalculated the amount of RAM and storage I was going to need in the first place. It's these two areas I'm gonna upgrade the most. And it comes in space black besides :D
Proud of you man, i thought for sure you'd be on the same train of returning the 16 again for the 14. A new leaf has been turned as you got it right once you force yourself to use the 16 form factor in daily use and finally get over the true size and weight you become one with the system and it cannot be beat. It took me many returned machines since the original m1 14" and this is the first year i didnt return the 16 because its god tier it just doesn't get better and the size and weight can be overlooked. They are irrelevant to the productivity you can achieve while fully immersed with the 16.
what about the noisy fans though? Since it is such a beast, it sucks a lot of power and runs hot. Any thoughts on this? Thanks!
@@yolandajoystar888the 16” doesn’t have noisy fans since they virtually never come on. Apparently the fans come on a lot on the 14” but I guess the 16” has better airflow due to being bigger.
Thanks for good the video Greg ! For better cpu performance specifically for music production ( many plugins ) would you choose an M1 max 64gb or the m2 max with 32gb ?
First timer here. Love the video. I felt like you were talking to me personally 😂
Subbed super fast! 👌
Thanks, appreciate it!
i am coming from an intel mac book pro from 2015 and I am thinking about buying a new mac book. I don't know which one would be the best. I study graphic design and a laptop is pretty much necessary for me. do you think the mac book pro m3 max would be a good option? Or would the mac book pro m2 be enough?
Any thoughts as to why Apple nerfed the memory bus speed on the M3 Pro units compared to the M2 Pro units from 200gb/s to 150gb/s?
Do you think the 128GB outperforms the 48GB? Is it a limiting factor?
How much noise does the 16" M3 MacBook Pro make when you load it and when does it start when opening a program or during editing or exporting?
Excellent review as always! Thank you.
is it still available to purchase the Apple Macbook M1 Pro Max?? Or where do I get them?
I've been to apple stores and they only have M3 Macbook available
that lg ergo stand is one of the best monitor arms out there because of its range of motion. BenQ must have either licensed LGS ergo stand or just copied it because its looks identical to LGs. Love that ergo stand. I modded one to use with my Imac 24".
It’s stolen, Chinese company
I have an M1 Max with 64 GB for music production. I went with more RAM in case I would later want to create orchestral compositions with lots of tracks and huge sample libraries. But if you are not planning to produce this type of music, CPU performance may be a more important consideration.
M1 and M2 Max both have 8 performance cores, but M2 has 4 efficiency cores vs 2 for the M1. This, and the increased single-core performance may make the M2 able to handle more tracks with CPU-intensive effects (such as reverbs) and virtual instruments (especially complex synthesizers). The GPU cores don't matter much unless you also produce videos, though some music software makers are starting to work on using these wasted cores for audio processing. Maybe someday the neural engine cores can be used for upcoming AI features in audio software.
An important factor for audio software performance is recording latency, where setting your DAW to a lower buffer size works the CPU harder, but reduces the annoying delay between recorded input, such as vocals or played instruments and the output you are listening to, such as backing tracks. If your CPU can't keep up, you get pops and clicks. There are workarounds for this, such as increasing the buffer size when you aren't recording, and "freezing" tracks with their effects, but the more processing power you have, the less you need to deal with such hassles.
I have zero need for the power of this PC, but I am obsessed with wanting it. I have a M1 Air that works just fine for my use. LOL. I just want a super nice PC that will last years that I don't ever have to worry about outgrowing. I do basic blender, basic video stuff, and use it a ton for reading, research, writing, and entertainment. Would be nice to be able to do a bit of gaming on it...I'd play LOL and some WOW as well, probably. I have a 13 inch m1 Air right now and it works, but its so and its so tiny, I am drooling over the idea of a 16 inch screen. Was gonna go for the smaller base M3 Max, but I've seen a lot of people complain about the temps and fan sounds in the base one, which don't happen in the bigger one due to a bigger chassis, so that bumped me up to wanting the 40 core in the 16 inch. I have tried to talk myself out of buying the M3 Max for like four months. It's not working and I'm very close to just going out and buying the stupid thing to stop the torture. It's NOT helping to see you rave about how much you love it. Send help.
I’ve noticed in several videos that the apple logo on the lid of computer no longer lights up. Is there a setting on the be M3 chip ?
Alright the coffee slap got me good lol
Question. Would I be able to livestream and potentially play a game. I’ve got an external camera I’d want plugged in as well. Asking because I’d love to have a Mac I could travel with
I love the part where you stay apps open slightly faster on the 16" ... But the 14" opened it faster lol.
Yep when I got my M1 Max 16, I deadass ditched my monitor, speakers. It felt too redundant.
I'm an interior architecture student, this year is ending and I'm looking for a new laptop, I'm using Intel, some people suggested M3 Pro. I can buy the one with 16gb ram and 1tb ssd. (my budget). How can I use 3dsmax and will I experience poor performance while using it? Should I turn to blender? Where and how can I get the render? Or should I stick with Intel? I'm waiting for your suggestions, thank you in advance.
Did you also spend more for the AppleCare extended warranty?
Hi. What about fan noise when you push the boundaries?
Appreciate your reviews, Greg! You give an honest appreciation of the user experience. I'll be purchasing a 14 inch with 96gb memory.
That's going to be an amazing machine I hope you enjoy it!
@GregsGadgets update for you: because of the slightly increased price differential (and nerfed memory bandwidth) i got the 14 with 16/40. software developer. never have heard the fans spin up even though sometimes with multiple build it sits at ~2500RPM. Coming from M1 air with 16GB ram with a wrecked 1TB SSD with swap usage over the years. Bill Gates was right by 99800%: you don't need more than 64GB of memory lol
Overkill is underrated.
Thank for video 🧨🧨🧨❤️❤️❤️
I ditched my 16" for M2 14" Macbook Pro, and I am so happy. As you said, at the end of the day, I plug it to a 27" external monitor anyway. And why should I carry a 16" laptop all around when I am actually doing my "desktop work" on in my desktop :) Not to mention that I can always extend my 14" monitor via sidecar with my iPad and that set up is more convenient to carry around.
Thermal problems 🤫
@@timothy_leovel Nah! My 14" does not even kick in the vents :) That might be true for people who are heavliy working on long videos.
goes both ways and if the monitor is not available or is not a studio display or XDR your kind of doing yourself a disservice in the end.
@@frostgodx Well at the end, it supposed to be a laptop, a portable device. Nowadays we want everything all together out of one device :) A laptop is a laptop, a desktop is a desktop... A train is a train, a plane is a plane... A train can't fly :)
at the end of the day real men dont even notice the weight difference, only bitch boys. The 16 has much better cooling system, is virtually silent and has a much more usable display and better speakers , better battery life. 16 for the win, 14 for the loser weaklings
Hi Greg,
I truly enjoyed watching your re-view of the16" M3 MacBook Pro - One Month Later... HOW, so much so that I have subscribed to your channel for all future videos.
Will you be re-viewing the M4 when it is released to you to do your re-view hope so amazing channel Greg, looking forward to your re-view
Is it better if I get the 16 inch m3 max base model but at 512gb or the base model of the 14 inch m3 max? I’m worried about the fan noise. Will 512gb affect the performance of the m3 max?
You forgot one thing which is battery life, which is improved over m2 Macs and is really noticeable
im using m1 imac with 16gb ram and within half year i hit the limit it has to offer well it is still 3-4 year old after all but i wanted a desktop setup, now i want to go into macbook pro setup since it has the more value and power for the price and it also has more options, right now im considering a 14.2 macbook pro base or upg chip and ram by selling imac, i dont think a 16.2 will fit on my desk even if i know it is worth it im not 100% sure but i dont like things sticking out and if the laptop is too big it will be on the corner of the desk, ideally i want to get max chip but i feel like im being pushed to make the call and move on, i also do not know how many gpu cores i need, for ram i know i need atleast 36gb ram since i use by desktop 16gb im not even abusing my imac btw it can run most things i throw at it but also struggles to do many basic things because it is so loaded and lacks power to do so, im also a gamer during my free time, unless i watch netflix i play games, right now my list is dying light, stacraft, warcraft, hades, tomb raider, and i intend to buy crossover since it can run games on steam and it works well, idk how many of them since red alert 2 failed to do so or maybe i lack power to run it but ideally i want to run dying light 2 atleast well only one way to know, i buy game and try.
omg that coffee cup didn't deserve your power house front hand 🤣
It was in the way!
Base spec US$1,600 M3 MBP is vastly different from a full-spec’d, maxed-out Ram & SSD US$7,200 M3 Max MBP at nearly 5 times the price, obviously.
Even worst with windows laptops
The reason the M1 worked so well was it was based on A series SOC's installed on iPhones over the years. Know that Apple had Mac's with A series/M prototypes being used well before the M1 first came out. This is why this normal had no hesitation in purchasing the very first M1 series MacBook Air.
For content creators I feel you should max out the latest MacBook Pro M series Pro or MAX that best fits you needs over the next few years. Then use the best external monitor and other accessories that meets your needs.
I know for this normal to replace my iMac 27-inch 5K Late 2014 almost came down to flip of a coin M1 Mac mini, or M1 MacBook Air back in March 2022. Thing is with the M1 MacBook Air, and an external monitor something like the Studio Monitor I can set these up in a two screen configuration if I want to. Also the M1 MacBook Air gives me the option to take it with me, and use remotely if I have the need as I have no other laptop.
Love your videos! Best tech reviewer ever👍🏻
Thank you so much!
Great video
Hey, Greg! Who’s your camera man?))
how are you happy with battery performance?? When editing/rendering, how much hours do you get??
Very happy with it, I honestly don't know the max hours because I haven't run out of battery yet during any of my editing, but it's been really good that I haven't noticed it needing to be charged. I haven't hit a low battery warning yet.
@@GregsGadgets I am asking because I got brand new and max spec out 16inch couple days ago. I imported about 20min of raw 6K R3d footage into FCPX, simple edit, no effects.. transitions.. nothing. It was running hot, then exported it (4 minutes video long in 4K) it took about 10min.
And that whole process (little bit of editing, surfing on the internet) after 3 hours battery was on 25%
Is that normal? what do you think?
Don't use your MacBook Pro outdoors in direct sunlight in the subtropics during midday because it will overheat. Sure, you can still see the screen very well but that's irrelevant at that point.
It only cost $1000000! What a deal!
find another dealer
Do Meteor Lake/Core Ultra 7 vs the M3 pls
But can it play Crysis?
Didn't you say that it was a M3 Max when the video started?
I'm still using The Intel i5 iMac 5k 2017 and desperately need an upgrade because I'm doing better at my video skill and some ideas can't be executed.😅
M3 Max all sold out everywhere here in my country.
if they say that the m4 was needed to redesign the m4 to be thinner with oled then i expect the macbook pro to look thinner.
The Mac studio memory bandwidth is 800GB/s and 400GB/s on the 16" Macbook Pro. So the Mac studio is still faster in that department
I do music production, train AI models, 3d modeling and CAD and 18gb ram for me is fine
What are all of you doing out there with these beast machines?
I've heard the M3 Max have very loud fans and run extremely hot, HUGE pet peeve potential for me. I'd love to get the max, but this could be a deal breaker for me. Wondering your thoughts on that. Having it be mobile, I also value being able to have longer battery life which the max does NOT have.
Nope, it's the 14 inch with M3 max that turns the fans into Top Gun Maverick. If you go M3 Max with the 16 inch, it runs quietly
hows the battery life on it
Apple sucks everyone into unnecessary upgrades. I have a 16” M1 pro with 2tb+32gb and a m2 ma studio with 2tb+64gb. If Apple allowed me to I would trade in both to get the M3 max. Only issue is they are not accepting M2 Max studios- yet! Regardless, this forces me to be happy with what I have and NOT get sucked into buying something I don’t need.
lol the wording here is hilarious 😂😂😂
I'm too lazy to comment or appreciate contents... but damn! I ejoyed every frame of this. Keep up such great work of art!
Thank you
Why so much emphasis on the Max editions when this video is about the M3 Pro?
I AM Ready for M3-Max just like yours.
I have no need for a desktop Mac. I will go for a Macbook Pro M3 16".
Why not just put ya studio display on the vesa mount and attached it that way 🥴
It is a mac studio in your backpack, Beats the m2 ultra
If MKBHD, who shoots CZcams videos with 8k Red cameras, canceled his M3 Macbook Max order after testing a review unit and decided to keep his M1 Max Macbook, I assume most Apple Silicon Macbook owners don't need to upgrade to the latest Apple silicon.
It’s still missing a 10 key, if they slap in Thinkpad logo this would be PC laptop
Greg, you featured a Benq 4k monitor in this video; what resolution setting on your Mac works best for you?
none its a sponsorship stick to apple displays or you will regret it
He uses the Studio Display. It’s an advertisement
I'm currently using a Mac Studio M1 Max at home and carry m2 MacBook Air. I just like the lightest laptop possible for travel
Caught the plug for Resident Evil: Village at 10:40. Directions unclear. This is an iPhone app?
Fingerprints … are a temporary, EASILY REMEDIED "problem." Some room temperature distilled water, a clean microfiber cloth (dampened, not even moistened; that means wring the excess OUT), some gentle wiping, and your done.
Keyboard greasy? A very small amount of Dr Bronner's liquid Castile soap, diluted 1:20 with distilled water (or more so if you use their unscented Sal Suds variety), on a separate clean microfiber cloth (again, not soaked, just mildly damp), followed by the other clean-clean damp cloth, and it should be good. Turn off before doing this. Should go without saying, but I know the Internet - some will do this with the MB on and logged in. 🤦🏼♂
Well that wad interesting to say 😎😎
An rtx 4080 still destroys this MacBooks gpu
My only gripe with Macbooks right now is that they don't offer any matt coatings. I'm so sick of my screen getting dirty.
Buy the 25€ Apple polishing cloth
Lol@@LUKAS-bb4jc
How does that M3 Max chip compares to a rtx 4090 laptop...which is still probably cheaper?
m3max is not for kiddos, grown childs and idiots. Macbook is for the serious powerful accomplished men.
@@PKperformanceEU you’re a clown.
Depends on what you are using it for: Machine learning? A.I. ? A 4090 would CRUSH a $7k MaxPro for about 1/2 the cost and be 3x faster.
I think what a machine like that is all about, for the most part, is being able to play games to entice gamers and thus users to come over to Apple.
If they can get more titles they will get gamers to not necessarily buy a $4k-$5k mac but to dip their toes in on a very capable $2k Mac.
There really aren’t that many professionals that need anything like this. Any M series with a bit of extra Ram will do the job for most users out there.
You really probably only needed the SSD upgrade more than anything vs your M1 Max machine. As far as these videos on your channel go, I don't see M3 Max being a necessary upgrade for your workflow. Then again just buying the machine provides you with more content to make videos about. $7200 is bonkers for a laptop...
I swear your graphs are more vague than Apple's. Why show no actual figures and how is the M3 Max in your graph at 6:07 saying 54% increase ? Judging by the graph, shouldn't it be nearer 100% ? What am I missing?
Came here to ask the same question. Seems the graph isn't zero-based. Looks like about 21500 vs 12500 which is a 72% increase by my count.
in few days you'll tell you prefer the 14 inch.. as usual
RIP Starbucks
Great video, I'm tired of all these whiney CZcamsrs, this is nice.
I love the M1...........I use Ubuntu.
The video title should put "M3 Max", not "M3".
I keep hearing great things about the BenQ line and I’d love to be able to consider one, but at 350 nits sustained, it’s just not bright enough for me. This does bum me out, as more people sing it’s praises.
brother these are paid ads to coincide with the macbook release its obvious your seeing it everywhere because they did their jobs. The monitor itself is great in the windows world but dog shit here. Stick with studio display or pro display XDR because thats the route that makes the most sense
@@frostgodxand for macOS is it good for Retina ?
@@LUKAS-bb4jc not unless you want to use it as FHD 1080p as that’s default on Mac OS as “retina”
Is 18g enough for video editing and simulator games like Xplane?
no you should have at least the 36gb model as base for those tasks
I’m tired of those perfect nothing wrong with highest price apple product video
It must be great but for the price!!! I don't think so....
Ape needs to revamp Max Studios and make SoC with 20 core 2 efficiency and 18 high performance cores and all high performance GPU cores. Apple Desktop do not need efficiency cores except for a few for idling or watching video.
No such thing as overkill.
So basically a waste of money.
If you don't code or use the system for productivity, do not buy this.
Space Grey > Space Black
Use better background music.
Yurrr
The 14-inch M3 Max MacBooks also have high-power mode now. The fans move air so much better than my M1 Pro. Even with the significantly higher horsepower, it stays just as cool. Could be related to nanometre size? Don’t sleep on the 14-inch.
same as its always been honestly 300rpm more of a fan speed and more aggressive curves this year are good. excellent machines regardless of the size finally pick your poison
How is battery on the m3 max 14 inch?
@@luisvaldivia6898 mediocre. Music playing 50% and screen at 100% it goes down 1% every 4 minutes making 100-0 time just about 6.5-7 hours. Most your looking at in use is about 12 hours real world use and editing video gets about 4-5 hours depending on how intense, what program, if your rendering your timeline etc
M1 or M2 still as good as M3 don’t have to buy the newest toy lol 😂
Depends on use case
but its black...
Notch is a deal breaker in it.
Have you tried looking at the content in the middle of the screen instead? When I press my nose up against the notch and stare at it, it gets in the way, so I see what you mean...
I use dark mode and black themes, meaning I've hrdly ever even seen the notch over the years I've been using MBP XDR
What the fuck does 40 core gpu even mean. Compare it to AmD or NVIDIA with thousands of cores why does everyone make a big deal over 40 core gpu. It literally means nothing, teraflops that’s something you can measure.
Tflops doesnt mean shit, you need LINALG, CALCULUS, DISCRETE MATH, ABSTRACT ALGEBRA and a lot more math topics i know nothing about yet. m3max CPU smokes even 14900K's by big margine in scientific use and the GPU alotugh less powerful than a 4090, still very relevant for high lvl computation
@@PKperformanceEU lol I have an m1 ultra I’m very happy with it it’s a fantastic machine and I love the power efficiency however let’s not kid ourselves here. The 14900k is faster but it’s also a radiator. That’s not the problem, the m3 and m3 Max are more than good enough. However on the GPU side they traded ram/vram given their unified architecture for performance. The 4090 does llm inference between 4 to 10 times faster. It doesn’t even compare. My problem with this video is that he says “a whopping 40 cores” when he doesn’t have a fucking clue what that means.
On the lack of noticeable performance difference between M1 and M3, I'm currently using a desktop with a 3rd generation, high-end i7 that still pulls it's weight. If I were to put a PCIe ssd in my machine you probably couldn't tell that the motherboard was from 2011 or the cpu from 2013 in most daily tasks. I imagine many older macs would be that way too, if Apple and software devs didn't cut support for them.
BS at its core. I use a 13900h laptop that pulls 140w short term and 110w long term on the cpu alone and a lot of times feels slow. Not so long ago i had my 16inch m1max 10/32 1tb and i still cry inside from selling it and basically downgrading to a seriously inferior archichtecture. I wanted an m2max but windows laptop was like 2500 instead of 3000 and fell for the trap. Anything less than 11th gen is useless garbage, e waste
Will it stop working after a year of minimal use…like my m1. Awaiting the techs bad news but im starting to question apples engineering now and $. I think im done with apple since tim has turned it into something it never used to be. Money wasters now.
10:26 we have a lot games on mac, it apple that keep updating Mac OS X every breaking those games. This one reason I’m staying with Intel Macs , i can run my 32 and 64 bit games apps. Windows allow pc users to run old school dos, 32 and 64bit games and apps. With apple their dick move killed a lot of AAA developers from making games for Mac. We lost Paradox with skylines, blizarrad with Diablo, zenimax ESO. Total of 15 games just came out for Intel Mac at end of 2023. 11:32 so immersive with crosshairs on screen what newbie at gaming. Oh came you have mods nope not with silcon
Starbucks? Really man?
It's never over kill. 6 months later it is not good enough anymore. Just like the PC world.
Is 18gb good enough for gaming?
As long as you don’t have 50 chrome tabs open yes more than enough
16 GB an I’m running No Mans Sky on Ultra. So definitely fine
@@ghost-user559 thanks I got the 36gb! Always better for future proofing.
Motherboard failure will brick it in a nanosecond
Motherboard failures will brick anything in a nanosecond?
you need a haircut more than you need 128GB of memory
A space black Macbook looks like a cheap windows laptop.
I like it, it’s pretty different.
You must not have seen one, in your hands…
You sound like a salty windows user frustrated at having to use a rubbish diving board touch pad lol
Oh man, either you have massive jealousy or massive troll tendencies. Which one is it?
@@leebeeskee that may be the first time anyone claimed “it was massive…”
Sorry… had to do it ;)
great laptop with a great price. even if you pay enough you will get the parents also with great performance..I saw also poor billionaires who donated every single money and went to join simple life as monks who never get peace of mind with billions.