Rabbi David Bar-Hayim's Non-Association with the 'Sanhedrin'- Interview with Rabbi David Bar-Hayim
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- Rabbi David Bar-Hayim's Non-Association with the 'Sanhedrin'
Interview with the head of Machon Shilo, Rabbi David Bar-Hayim
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Tremendous respect for you.
I see that as rabbi and fellow you want truly serve god and his people , my hashem continue to bless you with great health and wisdom.
One of the best video essays on a Jewish topic so far, ever. If only people would take the issue seriously and do what is correct.
Shalom and thank you for coming out and speaking the truth about the non-Sanhedrin Organization after all these years. I've wanted to myself for years, but hesitated. I only wish you had made it more explicit that the body spoken of is NOT a Sanhedrin by any means, does not deserve that title, and deceives the public by toting it.
Despite the disinformation they continue to put out, their Mosaic semikhah is patently invalid (which I know from the inside, after my own work among their ranks for 2 years, as you surely remember). They did not achieve any majority consensus of Hakhamim in Israel by any possible stretch of the imagination. (And the opinion of RaMBaM, as you explained it well, is the ONLY halakhic opinion by which the semikhah and Sanhedrin CAN be restored, period).
You might also have noted their shamefully permissive, Chabad-esque position in regards to idolatry, by which, in my mind, they forfeited any right to Torah leadership IMHO. However, it must also be noted that the direction you would take -- while it might produce a group that could, in theory, be elevated to great respect, such that it could somehow become "the Sanhedrin" someday -- until then, even your court would not have the halakhic jurisdiction worthy of the title.
With greatest respect (always and sincerely), I believe you are only slightly less starry-eyed on this than they are (bless your heart, no insult intended): The chief reason there is no Sanhedrin and will be none for quite a while, is simple ECONOMICS: For the sake of their families, schools and shuls, Orthodox rabbis of our day, as well-intending public servants as they may be, belong to well-oiled systems, powerful rabbinical organizations -- most of which are loyal to a government body, the Israeli Rabbinate. Others belong to sects controlled by a powerful few, who will not relinquish their "kingdoms" unless they have a part in the project, and a major economic incentive or government mandate to do so. And branding powerful, widely-loved and respected rabbis as "not real rabbis", or behaving as though "the Charedi rabbis don't count" will get us nowhere: just another bubble world, such as that which the "Sanhedrin Organization" lives in.
Without a government mandate or the support of a private billionaire, I tell you with great bitterness in my heart, it will not happen. The Torah vision of the Sanhedrin is a court that is the highest judicial authority on earth (Michah 4:1-4). After my own experience with the impractical minds we both became so fed up with, it is clear that such a body cannot be created by private, scholars (however learned or well-intending they might be), but by a Torah-, or Jewishly-minded GOVERNMENT. Top-down, not bottom-up.
As implausible as it might seem in our reality, such a possibility DOES belong to our universe: Many do not know that previous President of Israel Moshe Katzav publicly stated that he would like the Sanhedrin to be restored. As more observant, Zionist Jews enter government, this vision can be rekindled. Let us pray and raise the next generation as best we can, so that a better, future Israel will create a true Sanhedrin -- as close as we can come to the bonifide vision of the Torah for our time. Warm Blessings from Beit Shemesh
Jabu Jolly
The term Sanhedrin is Greek not Hebrew nor even Aramaic. You have made many excellent points as to how unfeasible it would be to recreate it and these are poignant but I think the diversity of the Jewish world is an excellent thing and that there should be a free market of ideas. Therefore the founding of a new Sanhedrin would not only not be feasible; it wouldn't even be desirable, and the Torah does not command it.
When the Sanhedrin is established. I hope this Rabbi is the head of it.
Bravo!
Would it be ignorant to suggest that we can put a list together of what questions the “legitimate“ Sanhedrin would discuss . ? I would hope that the subject of the possibility of keeping only “one day” Yom tov in diaspora” could be considered?
I saw video of that ceremony at the altar. Gotta be honest they didn’t look super serious about it and I was disappointed. 😔
Hazak. AMEN.
How can there possibly be any commandment in the Torah to appoint a Sanhedrin when even the very word 'Sanhedrin' is neither Hebrew nor Aramaic but Greek?
@Yitzhaq Ben Avraham I see. I like the fact that you use the authentic Tiberian pronunciation of Hebrew. Its good to see people do that.
@Yitzhaq Ben Avraham I find that very interesting. I myself use the Tiberian pronunciation when it comes to anything from Scripture---e.g. Tehillim, Shema, Aisheth Hayil, and suchlike. But as a Litvak Ashkenazi I use the old Litvak pronunciation when it comes to anything deRabbonon such as brochos, studying Talmud or Chassidus, Tefillas HaDerech and such.
Are you closely connected to Rav Bar Haim?
@Yitzhaq Ben Avraham I have read that the most accurate pronunciation of Hebrew is not the Yemenite at all but the Iraqi.
It wouldn't be so feasible for me to call, so I'll tell you.
If you take the Teimani pronunciation, the consonants of Yemenite and Iraq are all the same except for the following:
1) The dagesh Gimel is a G not a J (some Yemenites pronounce it like this too.)
2) The quf is pronounced with a gutteral K just like the North African and Syrian Jews pronounce it, not as a G like the Yemenites.
3) The resh is trilled, unlike the Yemenite where it generally isn't.
So that's the difference with the consonants.
With the vowels, the Iraqi follows the Sephardi and Mizrahi pronunciations. So the qamatz is usually an ''ah'' sound not the ''aw'' as in Yemenite and eastern and western Ashkenazi, nor the long ""áawwhh"" as in Persian/Bukharian/Kavkaz.
However it becomes an ''aw'' if:
a) its a shwa qamatz
b) the next letter has a shwa underneath (unless there is a small vertical line next to the qamatz)
c) the next letter has a hyphen after it
d) its the second consecutive qamatz in an infinitive word
The above rules are the rules of the qamatz in all the Sephardi pronunciations as well as Syrian. Iraqi follows it too.
The segol is not the broad ''aah"" sound as in Yemenite, but is a regular ''eh"" as with the Sephardim and Syrians.
The holam, whether the short or long, is the regular Sephardi holam making an ''oh'' sound not the ''ei'' as in Yemenite (The Litvishe holam interestingly is very like the Yemenite).
There are some videos of hazanim doing the Iraqi. I will look for them for you.
BTW you wouldn't by some chance live in an area where there is a Georgian shul would you? There are unfortunately no Georgian shuls in the country where I live so I can't go anywhere to learn the Ebraeli Georgian pronunciation.
@Yitzhaq Ben Avraham Really? You wouldn't be a part of Rabbi Tuvia Singer's community would you?
These days I'm usually in South Africa.
Im in New jer USA lem king alls forgiven between are family or ill beat you hahaha
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