Testing & review JP Diesel Cooktop For Off-grid Living Without Lpg
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- Can you cook using diesel cooktop in a camper van? Testing JP Diesel Cooktop to find out if Living Vanlife dream off-grid In A Camper Van Without LPG Gas is possible?
Today's video focuses on testing a cheap chinese knockoff of the Wallas diesel stove from JP heating available on Aliexpress s.click.aliexp...
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Personally we use olive oil for cooking it doesn’t leave such an after taste👍🏻
Do you have to have both rings on the cooktop on at the same time?
@@tbullivant with this diesel cooktop, it’s technically only one ring that heats - and then the other is heated from the overspill of heat produced, so not seperately controlled or heated. So you can slide pots/pans across to the slightly cooler side but have no control over it temp wise…does this make sense?
@@travelswithbilbo7526 😂😂😂
@@SACREDTRAVELLERAliexpress immediately offers several alternatives at seemingly half the price such as "￡486.79 | JP Heater 2.2KW Diesel Stove Cooker Ceremic Glass RV Two Burners Boat Marine Caravan Cooker Similar to Wallas"
I'm wondering why you didn't choose one of these?
I sat and watched this with interest. I put lpg in my van about two years or so ago and if I knew then what I know now I would not have put it in there. If I could swap it for a diesel option that would have been far easier. I know some diesel cooktops double as a heating source aswell which is interesting 😘 Very informative Mel absolutely love your content 😘
Why? Is something happening in the UK ref LPG?, Over here in mainland Europe their are more LPG stations than there has even been and it's growing, When I started touring Spain 22 years ago, there was none, now there are thousands, I also toured Eastern Europe and in the last 10 years it's grown. I think changing to diesel in Mel's case is interesting but a mistake for many reasons, Diesel is expensive LPG on average is half the price.I think Mel is jumping the gun on this issue. Each diesel system he fits is like a mini diesel engine, more complicated less efficient and using a fuel twice the price.
Unless he is planning to go to outer Mongolia or tour Russia then I see why he's doing it?.
That floor looks flipping marvellous, and all the preparation work shows how much care you're putting into the van. Its going to be an absolute blinder when its finished. Great video again Mel. 👋🇬🇧🇺🇦🇪🇺
Thank you ☺️
Mel don't worry about the critics and i'm loving how you are building your vario keep the good work coming.
Thank you ☺️
Hi Mel, I think the only drawback with the diesel hob is that both plates heat up, you would have thought there was a way of splitting them?
Mel I just love your attention to detail and how you think things out.
Thank you
I have fitted a few diesel hobs. They do take s long timeb to warm up. But perhaps my biggest issue is the fact that they need so much space below them for the exhaust ducting. They also only have a certain max length for the exhaust and it can dictate the position a bit.
My biggest problem is replacing the oven. Unless you fancy a cupboard full of various cooking options that have to be set up on the worktop each time , there is very little that will come anyway near a gas oven and hob for convenience.
If you manage your other facilities like diesel heating, then an unferslung tsnk will manage many weeks when only cooking. ...not heating.
So even if i have to go 50 miles out of my way a few times a year then its still gas for me.
I get around 90 days/3 months worth full use out of my oven/cooktop with a 7kg bottle of gas. I love the control I have cooking with gas.
Love your videos Mel well done,
I’m in Cinderford with 5 gas outlets within a 20 min drive mate, and around four more if I come your way 👍
Sounds great!👍
The cooktop I never knew existed to the review I needed well done Mel. Great video as always. I’ve said it once I’ll say it again I love MELS MAD MEALS 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 great to see Becky looking well too
Thank you for the positive vibes really appreciated 🤓👍🍻
I liked the hot water set up!
Its certainly an option if you have the time to wait.... Im lucky I have 5 outlets for LPG in my area that arent petrol stations. 3 are taxi firms. I just put a large LPG tank under mine. I just top up when im passing one of them and can last 4 or 5 months of fulltime living.... Interesting and informative video..👍
Interesting and informative as ever. Looking forward to when you install it in the van.
Thank you I’ve been trying it out all week and so far it’s been ok 👍
You’re definitely not cutting corners on the Vario Mel and it shows in the quality of your work so far. Looking forward to seeing how the layout develops on top of this fantastic foundation. That hob looks to be quicker than a wallas one I tested! Great video 👍🏻
Thank you very much!
Such a great video to show the progress my love. You did amazing! x
Thank you so much!!😊 🥰
The diesel hob is a great idea for winter. Great to get the floor down once and for all. Onwards & upwards
It sure is 👍
35:39 now you have pilot holes pick 2 & put in plain-shank brass screws leaving them standing proud, cut the heads off & round them over tidily then open up the holes in the board - now you have guide dowels to make certain the rest line up.
And your back in the room! After a bit of a re edit I imagine,what with the echo on the last one when talking
Yeah I really don’t know what happened with that thanks for sticking with me really appreciate it 👍
Cooking on gas are diesel in your case Mel 👍
41:42 for a few minutes - from an engineering standpoint the horizontal webs you're screwing into are only there to stop the vertical load-bearing webs twisting out of shape. For the main part of the floor where all load is downwards it makes little difference but for that one beam where there is potential lifting you should be putting in substantial bridging pieces attached to the vertical webs & fastening to those instead, perhaps even with bolts right through the rail into a thick bracing piece underneath.
as you mention at 43:05
You can get portable desk top single electric inverter cook tops! After you finished with it you can shove it in a drawer! Saves a lot of stuffing around! 👍
Yes Ray I have one that I use in the summer but come winter it’s useless
@@BigVanSmallWorld I keep forgetting that you live in the land of the middle night sun! What about all your power packs?
Great job on that floor Mel. Such a big van, looking forward to seeing it evolve.
Thanks 👍
Love your belts and braces way you did the floor. Old school engineering just like the way I build things. 👌🏽💪🏽💪🏽
Thank you 🙏
Hey Mel. How about a competition to win an electric bike 😁
You can reduce the whole egg boiling time substantially by using only a small amount of water, around only half a centimeter of water or so (YMMV). And then have the egg(s) boil in the hotter steam of that boiling water. You'll need a proper lid for your pan to keep the steam inside, though.
Martha Stewart has a good method that when the water boils, turn heat off, pop on a lid and let it sit for 10mins
My mother in law uses a bean can to boil an egg or two, uses less water being so thin/narrow.
very interesting thank you
Brilliant Mel , love the build ,very informative, and the water heating system top marks 👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Mel, a great vid and I love the diesel stove. Can I point out that you Union Jack is upside down mate. Nice one for having it on display though.
Thanks for that
I agree can't get refillable gas anywhere near me none for two months
Great video Mel, I don't mind the cooking if you are reviewing or testing gear, love your attention to detail
I appreciate that!
They are one f the better manufacturers, they make one with a lid as well and its duel purpose, you can use it as a heater and a cooker. They also do a heater like the truma
Interesting video as always Mel. I would consider the diesel cook top if it could run on bio diesel. To be honest I think LPG will be around just as long as diesel. LPG produceers are already looking at blended and synthetic replacements for LPG. I went for botted gas for cooking only as we are weekend warriors and holiday campers only. Our 7kg bottle is only half used after 1 year!! But we do use hookup on sites and solar for kettle, air fryer and toaster oven when the solar power is good.. The secret is not to be too reliant on any one source of power. The van looks like it will be epic.
Well done Mel you reached a milestone now, great thinking bring back the cooking enjoyed that and I thought you said the barn was going?
Thanks so much yes it will be going by the end of this year
Put salt in the pan first boiled or poached eggs it will boil quicker 👍
Try a little less coffee breaks and you might get it from your head into the van a bit quicker
Video production impacts van work production, that's for sure.
I bet it takes longer producing his videos now, compared to the 'old days' but hey! He still gets and keeps my attention, so to me, he's still doing something right.
I gave up watching TV years ago, this, although somewhat dragged out, is still so much better Declan; at least in my opinion 👍
thank you thats real kind of you to say
Great work Mel 👍🏻
Thank you 😁
time for lunch by the time breakfast cooked. Have to get up an hour earlier 😁 I wouldnt have the patience
Looks a great cook top 😊and van looking great 💙
Thanks so much! 😊happy Easter 🐣 buddy 🤓👍
cracking on now mel soon be insulation ply and interior well done great job all the best donny
Thanks 👍
That's a better tittle, Mel 😂😂 Hope you had a good Easter.
Thank you and you too
I actually wonder why people use the off grid term so regularly when this lifestyle or that of people in things like Narrowboats is just about the opposite of off grid tbh.
It seems to me that people who choose this lifestyle are actually far more reliant on the grid and it's services/benefits than a lot of other folk tbh.
Not wanting to work a 9-5 job or use a particular form of energy isn't off grid imo but simply using the grid in a different way.
If people are relying on income from social media, Govt., or whatever or still require roads, facilities or easy access to food, water, technology and whatever else then they're as much or more grid tied we are, for example, and we live in a house in town.
I'm not hating on the lifestyle as I don't mind seeing different ways of life but this term makes no sense to me when used this way.
@@oldbloke204 I'm guessing todays meaning of 'off grid' means not being permanently hooked up to an address, electric, gas, and sewage etc but yes, probably most or all in the modern world do depend on 'the grid' very much in one way or another.
The grid is actually rather amazing in my eyes, it can be expensive for some but hey! It is a luxury to be fair.
Press a button and washing will come out clean and dry.
Flush the toilet and poop magically disappears...I could go on and on 😆
@@pa_maj.MARTINI-van-MAN Yeah it's weird way of describing it imo.
During the health thing a few years back towns here closed down to travellers due to the lack of health facilities and those that were permanent travellers were basically toast until some farmers/homeowners opened up their land for them to camp on.
I don't consider us to be off grid but we could last for a month or more on the supplies we have, we harvest rainwater and firewood, have a wood stove and cellar etc etc.
If I was concerned we could load up on food and whatever and last for a long time.
We also don't need income from a job etc.
It seems that this type of off grid freedom only works when the grid is readily available and working properly imo.
@@oldbloke204 100%
Great video Mel 👍
Thank you 😁
Hey Mel, I tested my Vango sizzle double induction hob this morning. 2x mugs of water @13C boiled is 6:45 using 770watts of 220v. consuming a total of 85.5 watts per 2x cups. For me these diesel hobs are to expensive and take to long to heat up. I'm surprised your not using induction?
I am using induction in the summer
Good night Mel and wife I love watching your videos of you and your building your new campervan and i hope you are all well and enjoying your building your new campervan please keep up the good work up on your videos on your you tube channel please say hi on your you tube channel please
Good night
Had a couple of glasses of wine with a large easter lunch and could see van layout as described
While you sing the praises of the power packs you try to cook off diesel! If you size your battery pack and solar appropriately surely cooking with electric would be trivial. Are you moving the AC200max and 2 x B230 into the new build or are you going to do a video on the new electrical setup?
Hi yes you’re absolutely correct I will be using the Bluetti to power my van and also be using induction cooker for most of the time but come winter I’ll be using the diesel cooker as in the uk solar just isn’t that great
Having tried the expensive version of this stove in a hired campervan, for my build I decided to go with induction for pans, and an electric kettle for cuppas. Why? Well the one I used took over ten minutes to boil the kettle (two mugs measured fill), and then I was left with a nice space heater while it cooled down, which on a hot and humid morning, I wasn't keen on. For the rest of that holiday I ended up using my Jetboil for making hot drinks.
For normal cooking it was ok, but still throws out a lot of extra heat, and lacks the ability to instantly control the level of heat like gas or induction.
I applaud with your decision to have a gasless van and really hope that you enjoy your JP hob, but they are not for me. (Nothing against JP, I have one of their Combi boilers and it is excellent)
I need to know where you got that hole saw set too as it’s quick release 👍🏻👍🏻
yes its the muts nuts amzn.to/3PKKcRz
@@BigVanSmallWorld cheers Mel top man 👍🏻👍🏻
A friend of me, has also all on diesel in his van......Sorry to say, always problems with it.
I have the same kettle, all I need now is the same hob lol
maybe get a pyrometer and measure temperatures. As you go up in altitude, boiling will occur at sooner at lower temperature thus, not cooking food ... 25 minutes for boiled eggs seems not too hot.
Square circles are very rare 😂😂
Hi Mel the stove is great ! On a different note, what’s the life expectancy of the treated wooden floor as the back will be exposed to all weathers etc etc ?
50 years as its special flooring called Phenolic. Used in all horse boxes and ifor trailers etc for the bedliner. SUPER heavy duty and all weather resistant. No need to treat or anything
@@SACREDTRAVELLER perfect that ! I’ve seen it before but was always ontop of steel, and hats going to outlast us all lol 👌
The price of these diesel cooktops are insane.
Absolutely great info on the diesel stove, only down side what I can think off is when you go to a campsite if there is that typical burning diesel smell for “the neighbors” ?
We don’t use campsites
But also there’s absolutely no smell so far 😊
To be fair, i don't think you can beat gas for ultimate speed in cooking, i think i would have got bored, and died of starvation by now,...🤣
🤣😂👍
A good Induction hob is much better than gas, however there’s massive power obstacles to overcome in a vehicle.
I was interested in Diesel cooktops but I didn't want any extra heat in the van and as far as I was aware at the time diesel cookers double as heaters too. I think if I ever do another build I'd be all electric, 840ah of lithium isn't all that expensive anymore, the upgraded alternator will be though.
We use induction in the summer. This diesel cooktop is for winter cooking ❤
@@SACREDTRAVELLER Ah that makes sense.
Cant you get a smaller pan to boil the eggs in? They will cook much faster.
Yes you can!
@@BigVanSmallWorld Aha, you are a gas guzzler.
Steak into a nice hot pan, please !
I'm guessing you need to preheat the hob b4 use. Much like an oven. Yeah.
Correct 👍
I'm not sure how wide spread LPG is in the UK, But for us in mainland Western and even in eastern Europe it's wide spread and not a problem, I guess you have your reasons for wanting to use diesel but I would rather use LPG. A friend of mine checked what the cost was for using different fuel for heating and cooking plus the 3 way fridge and found LPG to be the best, manly due to the cost ie LPG is much cheaper, The refillable option (which I have) is great and I would not be without it. In fact I have looked at the possibility of fitting a duel fuel system to my van, But worked out I don't do the km's to justify the outlay.
Would love to know your reasons Mel.
Apologies if you have stated your reasons before maybe you could direct me to that clip?
Purely because I like to experiment with different things to see which one is better so I can report back with more information for my audience
@@BigVanSmallWorld OK thanks Mel. Good luck 🙂
Bloody ticking noise again
Does anyone know if you could live off grid in uk just using electric for a van if so how many Watts of solar is needed and what size batterys .. not for heating just for cooking lights fridge freezer electric cooker top and air fryer thanks 👍
If your using diesel you need a big battery bank
Wow there abit pricey and you say that's a cheap one off Ali 😮
Yeah 👍
I was just thinking, would a magnet be good for getting the metal filings up? Like one of those fishing magnets? Thanks for the vid guys x
Cool idea
Putting on a lid would have boiled the water much quicker
could that not be used for passive heating in the van ,rather than fit a diesel heater aswell
Hi Mel love your build. my question is which GoPro do you use please,..
GoPro 9 and a Go Pro 11 👍🏻. Both are pretty similar 😊
9and 11 also use sony ZVE 10 links in the description
When Gordon Ramsey switches to Induction, so will I
I know you want to be Gas free, but that cooker don’t work very well. I love my Gas cooker and don’t fancy anything else. The electric air fryer and things like that are ok in the summer with solar coming in. When the Gas runs out from Russia or wherever. I shall be in a hole in the ground.
Can you turn on one burner at a time?
No it’s basically one big hob
Hi Mel...is there any fumes from the stove or diesel heater...
All the gas’s are directed to the outside of the van just like a diesel heater
@@BigVanSmallWorld thanks mate...it's a great idea having one fuel source. for everything..takes a lot of the worries away.....
Is there two individual switches for either element
no just the one
Sorry Mel not with you on this one, surly LPG is cheaper than diesel 🤷🏼♂️plus 21 minutes to cook a egg 🤯
It cost me £7 last time I filled my LPG tank 40ltr and that was a long time ago
But I guess if you don’t try you don’t know
and this is why i try this stuff so you dont have too 👍🤓👍
looks a bit lethal in a van
The cooktop or Mel!? 😂😂😂
hahah
I don't like cooking with Diesel. It takes forever to heat up and you are limited to one pot....
It’s got room for two pots
@@BigVanSmallWorldOh! I thought, you just slide the pot in between the two ends to adjust the heat...
lol cheaper to go all electric with solar and electric hob atleast thats what am going to do with my 24ft yacht on my channel
Not much sun and daylight hours in the UK for solar to power All electrical appliances 😥
@@pa_maj.MARTINI-van-MAN yes but even shade is ok if enough solar panels plus getting bifacial
@@gatecrasher1970 It would take a large van roof and unless they can be tilted, bifacial would be useless. Laying portable solar panels out on the ground isn't always practical, that depends on the location.
Low power consuming devices are generally better for UK winter vanlife.
Very dangerous with kids
ha ha, it helps with natural selection. plus we don't have kids, so not a problem.
Gosh Mel this is getting a bit mad with diesel cooking
…not as mad a using a table saw today ( off a generator) in a field of bulls😟, still got all my limbs
To be fair Mel that hob is a load pants 10 mins for boil kettle I gave up watching u boiling eggs am sorry get rid off it
i make these videos for you so you don't have to waste your money
Hi Mel, how can a pm be sent to you, cheers
Go over to my patreon
If Im doing it correct it wont allow me to send an email to the email address.
@@BigVanSmallWorld
16minutes……..eggcrusiating
why flip the engine out for desent Mercedes petrol engine drop that in the van the covert it all to Hydrogen the enginewill run the van offit and all the case site to???
sounds like a great idea i look forward to seeing your video
@@BigVanSmallWorld dot need to see mine its all over youtube now it's first done in the 60s I don't rune a youtube....
hi mel how do i get in touch with you email if posible
melpettipher@msn.com