Is The Husqvarna Svartpilen 801 The Perfect Motorcycle?

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  • čas přidán 27. 03. 2024
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  • @mel3kk
    @mel3kk Před 3 měsíci +7

    I love my Svartpilen 701

  • @jeremieyirmeyahu3468
    @jeremieyirmeyahu3468 Před 3 měsíci +5

    At first i was a bit desapointed with the design of the 801 but now i kind of like it. Right amount of power. Light weight. The only thing is a bit pricy.... in France it will be 11200. The 790 is 9000 . I will go for it if it was 10000 euros.
    Also i have some concerns about reliability as I heard the 790 engine was called the camshaft eater 😅

  • @greenambles
    @greenambles Před 3 měsíci

    Guys, LOVING this episode! (love them all to be fair but this one so on point!) really like the idea of optimising a bike to be the perfect one man band. I’ve got a 2018 Street twin so I’m shedding weight with the 2-1 exhaust, increasing power with the cam upgrade and tightening the suspension with the adjustable rear and progressive front all thanks to TEC. Loads of other little mods too such as uprated levers etc, Scorpion T2s, Crafton Atelier bench seat which slightly raises it. I’ve also got the scrambler 400X. I absolutely loved both the husky 701s when they came out and the iterations since. That blue and white one you feature in this episode my favourite design and if they just did that as an 801 with all the bells and whistles mentioned that would be the one for me. 👍🏼

  • @le_kakis
    @le_kakis Před 3 měsíci +3

    Tim should check the sv650,pretty much checks all his boxes (except cruise and tc😅)

  • @reynaik4381
    @reynaik4381 Před 3 měsíci +7

    The key feature about hasquvarna was styling, but with new design it looks similar as others and looks like quality has been compromised 😅 Old is Gold ⚜️

  • @SWTrailsAndWheels
    @SWTrailsAndWheels Před 3 měsíci +34

    For me, reliability is very important and even though many are fantastic, I still don't feel comfortable buying a KTM product.

    • @zippy441
      @zippy441 Před 3 měsíci +9

      I don't want to talk too soon, but I've had an 890 for a year now, put 5k on it and not had a single issue. I had a 990 before that which I owned for about 5 years, was on 29k when I sold it, and again not a single issue. In my limited experience they are not as unreliable as some people think.

    • @messageinathrottle4046
      @messageinathrottle4046 Před 3 měsíci +6

      Stats don’t tell the whole story, but they also don’t lie. I have a hard time trusting any of the European and American manufacturers with 25-40% catastrophic failure rates. I’ve never had any kind of failure with any of my Japanese bikes; I’ve only had to replace wear items, change the oil, and clean the chains. My Harley is still the most expensive, least ridden, most “repaired” bike I’ve ever owned, and I won’t make that mistake again. Yes, many of them are beautiful, but I’ll take happily riding over parking lot presence every time.

    • @chalkybruce
      @chalkybruce Před 3 měsíci +2

      I feel the same. I currently own a honda and the biggest appeal is; when I want to ride my bike, I will be able to start it and ride it at anytime.

    • @axamitidynamit8355
      @axamitidynamit8355 Před 3 měsíci +3

      I’ve just seen a guy completing 80,000 miles on a 701 Husqvarna with no technical issues. Yes, KTMs need some more maintenance, but their supposedly bad reliability is an urban legend. Sure, there are some well-known issues with a few particular models, but there are also very good bikes that ride around the world many times without any problems.

    • @hanoiscrambler
      @hanoiscrambler Před 2 měsíci

      @@axamitidynamit8355not an urban legend to me. I heard the local workshop guys in my place discussing about replacing oil pressure sensor for several Adv/Duke 390 and 790. And if you wonder why I was there to hear that discussion, I ride a Ducati and its maintenance/repairing is also a sad story 😂 too frequent visit to workshops

  • @jimboulter3615
    @jimboulter3615 Před 3 měsíci +3

    I have owned both the 701 Vitpilen and Svartpilen. These were both original in design. Unlike the 801. But I bought neither new due to the price. It’ll be the same with this one £10500! U can get a brand new Duke 790 for £6995. Yeh, I know that these days they are only 95hp as opposed to the 801 having the original 105. But even so £3500 seems like a big mark up. Nice looking bike, but I’m feeling that they haven’t learnt from the pricing mistakes that killed off the originals.

  • @MotomotiveRevolutionYT
    @MotomotiveRevolutionYT Před měsícem

    Love this episode❤

  • @blackiredi
    @blackiredi Před 3 měsíci +1

    Street Triple 765 all day. Perfect.

  • @iNFiN3
    @iNFiN3 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I'd actualy love a Vitpilen 801, would be a great around town bike.

    • @Surfkid16
      @Surfkid16 Před měsícem

      Well you could always swop the AT tires with street slicks and sport drop bars.

  • @formernorcal2530
    @formernorcal2530 Před 2 měsíci +1

    V4 Honda all the way, can't wait for the new VFR!

  • @thodoris3790
    @thodoris3790 Před 3 měsíci +2

    i dont think that seat would be so perfect

  • @nuemanhanif8255
    @nuemanhanif8255 Před 3 měsíci +5

    I feel that the bonneville t100 is the perfect bike. comfortable, punchy and puts a damn smile to your face

  • @leoliu8189
    @leoliu8189 Před 3 měsíci +4

    I would say that : The design language is very similar as my 2019 CB1000R!

    • @fiveforbiting
      @fiveforbiting Před 3 měsíci

      My 2 top choices for next bike. Only things I don't love about the CB is the price and I don't love the 4cyl as much as twins. The newer CB also has an updated dash I believe. I hate LCD readouts.

    • @axamitidynamit8355
      @axamitidynamit8355 Před 3 měsíci

      Yeah, it has two wheels and a round headlight 😂

    • @konfunable
      @konfunable Před měsícem

      Totally agree. Previous Svartpilen generations of 401 were more unique.

  • @zippy441
    @zippy441 Před 3 měsíci +1

    820mm seat height sounds about perfect to me... Any smaller feels too small. I'm happy up to about 870mm, and I'm not overly tall at 6ft!

  • @jfu5222
    @jfu5222 Před 3 měsíci +2

    One of my criteria: Must be able to go over a curb without busting up plastic bodywork. How else are you supposed to get on/off the sidewalk?

  • @devilgames2217
    @devilgames2217 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Really like that new svartpilen.
    I bought my first bike a month ago, its a 2023 KTM 390 Duke. 😁

    • @jfu5222
      @jfu5222 Před 3 měsíci +1

      I've been riding for 40 years and now ride the KTM rc390, don't let anyone tell you it's a beginner bike. It's the most fun I've had in years!

    • @TheDougSpot
      @TheDougSpot Před 3 měsíci +1

      Bought my first bike a month ago, it’s a 2023 Husqvarna Svartpilen 401😁

    • @Scantcity
      @Scantcity Před 2 měsíci +1

      Great choice!

  • @tedbewely3637
    @tedbewely3637 Před 2 měsíci +1

    It would be great if they could put emergency Kickstarter on all bikes just in case you got stranded in middle of nowhere for us older men with the money to buy these bikes.

  • @chirag4
    @chirag4 Před 3 měsíci +6

    Svartpilen 801 has 285° Crank that mimics 75° V2 of Superduke
    not 435°

    • @Junkfiles446
      @Junkfiles446 Před 3 měsíci

      arent 435 and 285 the same when it rotates?

    • @chirag4
      @chirag4 Před 3 měsíci

      @@Junkfiles446 May be, am not sure of that 🤔 perhaps you are right

    • @Junkfiles446
      @Junkfiles446 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@chirag4 because super duke has 435 firing order so they use 285 on 2 cyl to mimic the 75 degree v2 435 firing order on the super duke

    • @chirag4
      @chirag4 Před 3 měsíci

      @@Junkfiles446OK thanks 🙏

    • @chirag4
      @chirag4 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@Junkfiles446 I own 4 Bikes :
      2021 Trident 660 + Full System Titanium AKRA + Accessories worth 2 Lakhs INR
      2022 Gen 3 Haybusa (White) + Full System Titanium Akrapovic + BMC Air Filter + Cowl + Engine Protector/Guard + Crash Guard + Tank Pad + Side Pad etc.
      2023 XDiavel + Termignoni Slip-on + Ducabike (Clear Clutch & Frame-Sliders & Red Axle Nut for rear-wheel) + CNC Radiator Guard + OEM Wind-Screen etc.
      2024 Scrambler 400X
      My Question is : Should I replace my Busa with 2024 S1000RR M-Pro (white) ?
      both are inline-4 but BMW is 50% more expensive than Busa, so is it worth spending so much extra, or instead I should go with a 60 degree V4 like Aprilia RSV4 Factory (not Panigale as I already have a Ducati) ?
      Sold other 2 bikes :
      2020 390 Duke
      2023 Yamaha R15

  • @Jajuh
    @Jajuh Před 3 měsíci +2

    I'm very curious about it.

  • @tedbewely3637
    @tedbewely3637 Před 2 měsíci

    Would love to had this video with American measurements. They speak better English than I do because I was raised in southern United States

  • @subzero-ku2wx
    @subzero-ku2wx Před 2 měsíci

    Sure, if you ignore the propensity of the LC8c to melt its cams.

  • @fiveforbiting
    @fiveforbiting Před 3 měsíci +1

    Yes.

  • @tjbarke6086
    @tjbarke6086 Před měsícem

    Wish it had a trellis frame...

  • @andrewoh1663
    @andrewoh1663 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Vee twins are suboptimal in several respects:
    > They don't fit into a motorcycle frame very well.
    >The air intakes, filter and exhausts are hard to arrange neatly.
    >They're expensive to make due to having 2 x cylinder heads, camshaft drive gear and water supply tubing.
    Best practice for a mid-range bike is still the good old parallel twin.

    • @johnfragos7660
      @johnfragos7660 Před 2 měsíci

      Having a soul is a requisite element of biking, V2's are the soul

    • @andrewoh1663
      @andrewoh1663 Před 2 měsíci

      @@johnfragos7660 You've lost me there pal. Motorcycles have souls???

  • @oknevals
    @oknevals Před 3 měsíci

    I only saw title and came to ask, perfect for what? Maybe I see vid later.

  • @brunocarmona4958
    @brunocarmona4958 Před 3 měsíci +7

    The Triumph Street Triple is the closest to a perfect motorcycle that was ever made.

  • @momoski68
    @momoski68 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Im just gonna put this out there. When Americans do these videos we include metric with our imperial units out of courtesy. Your fancy numbers mean nothing to me :-P

  • @seebarry4068
    @seebarry4068 Před 3 měsíci

    Its nice having a 200+ mile tank range, not useful if you have 50 mile seat comfort.

  • @motocomconteudo497
    @motocomconteudo497 Před 3 měsíci

    Is the same engine of BMW f800r? If so.. not a good one... tons of vibration... excessive engine breaking...

  • @gerrybailey447
    @gerrybailey447 Před 3 měsíci

    BMW XR 1000.

  • @sd3457
    @sd3457 Před 3 měsíci

    Something that looks like a Scrambler 900, with better suspension, bigger tank and less weight. Are you sure that the Svartpilen isn't self assembly from IKEA?

  • @Derolo808
    @Derolo808 Před 3 měsíci

    A perfect motorcycle has wind protection.

  • @emanuilzahariev9561
    @emanuilzahariev9561 Před 3 měsíci

    Very interesting discussion guys, love the video. If I have to describe the perfect bike, it would be Honda cl500 looks with (hornet, transalp) 750 cc engine and price of 8000 - 8500 euros. The best part is we CAN get this bike the next year if honda make it happen. It would be brilliant.

  • @user-nl3nv9dd3d
    @user-nl3nv9dd3d Před 8 dny

    Vit and svart 701 much more beautiful

  • @konfunable
    @konfunable Před měsícem

    I don't get it. 401 svartpilen first gen was the best design and I really don't like the direction the design took after that....

  • @Pillokun
    @Pillokun Před 3 měsíci

    svartpilen? what? just get an old sd 990 or smc and just make it a bit lighter and u will have a super light and nimble bike that is light years better than the duke 790/890/990/svart pilen 801, why? Because of the weight.

  • @viraltube4232
    @viraltube4232 Před 3 měsíci +5

    For Me I Would Say " BMW R nineT " Is A Perfect Bike... What Do You Guys Think...??

    • @PerfectlyNormalBeast
      @PerfectlyNormalBeast Před 3 měsíci +2

      That's what I landed on (2022)
      Shaft drive, basic classic looking bike. Luggage rack and side bag
      Great bike

  • @bulthaosen1169
    @bulthaosen1169 Před 3 měsíci

    No. Its not.

  • @formernorcal2530
    @formernorcal2530 Před 2 měsíci

    No the Svartpilen is not the perfect bike. What does Svartpilen mean?

  • @Bonercondoner
    @Bonercondoner Před 3 měsíci

    I think the perfect bike is the nuda 900r.

    • @paulred158
      @paulred158 Před 2 měsíci

      It would be if you could get parts.

  • @fidobite3798
    @fidobite3798 Před 2 měsíci

    A boxer twin? You mean the engine design that uses its valve train as the crash bars for the bike? Yeah, I've always thought this must be the most ignorant design of all time ever since a friend out riding his 90's bmw with me crashed & punched a hole through his valve cover ruining the day for both of us. A simple tip-over that wouldn't have hurt a thing on my inline 4 at the time. 🤬