My dad was a ng xo for ~10 years and he warned me that the bureaucracy in the guard was actually worse than the big army. Getting packets and papers filed is a pain in the ass because nobody wants to do their staff job. He said you need to continually bug the staffers to get what you need done for yourself. It took them 2 years to accept and process his retirement, and the entire time his name stayed on the roster so they begged him to come in every time his company had a formation. I think as long as you got sfre in your packet you don’t really have to worry about the guard bureaucracy effecting your sf career.
You pretty much confirmed what I already hoped. I spoke to both NG and AD recruiters but chose AD because I want to go full send into SF and I don't have any commitments or fulfilling career in my civ life. Maybe in 10 years I'll apply to switch to NG if I want to start a family.
I’ve been debating this myself, my buddy told me I should go NG and I didn’t know there was a SFG in the NG but I’ve always wanted to go Active Duty for Army SFOD-A… thank you for breaking down the different between the two I don’t think anyone has done a video between the two!
With this, many states will prioritize 18-series individuals for ADOS and AGR slots within the group and the counter-drug units. Therefore, there’s the possibility of still enjoying the benefits of being a full-time soldier without much of the bureaucracy and paperwork.
@@jacobl6109 ADOS and AGR are different types of employment opportunities you can get in the NG. ADOS (active duty occupational status) and AGR( active guard reserve). It gives you the opportunity to earn active duty time and benefits through the guard.
The only thing I’ve heard besides over course the obvious job side etc is that if you go to selection and fail in the NG you don’t go to needs of the army like you do AD. You just go back home.
Im planning on goi g the Guard SF route. Im married, no kids. Was wondering if it better to just full the send the whole pipeline or join then get the 18X contract to break up time away from home.
Obviously a highly personal choice but if I were to choose, I’d go 18x off the bat. It’s the most time you’ll ever get in the Army to prep for selection and have all the resources and support around you. There’s no way around the time away from home and there will never be a good time for it. As long as your family is on board it’s not too bad
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Guard SF is the way to go! Good training without all the AD BS! 18F4V 23 years (USSF) OEF2, 10 overseas deployments!
My dad was a ng xo for ~10 years and he warned me that the bureaucracy in the guard was actually worse than the big army. Getting packets and papers filed is a pain in the ass because nobody wants to do their staff job. He said you need to continually bug the staffers to get what you need done for yourself. It took them 2 years to accept and process his retirement, and the entire time his name stayed on the roster so they begged him to come in every time his company had a formation. I think as long as you got sfre in your packet you don’t really have to worry about the guard bureaucracy effecting your sf career.
Jeez! That is wild. I can definitely see how that could be a problem though. I appreciate you sharing!
You pretty much confirmed what I already hoped. I spoke to both NG and AD recruiters but chose AD because I want to go full send into SF and I don't have any commitments or fulfilling career in my civ life. Maybe in 10 years I'll apply to switch to NG if I want to start a family.
Hell yeah man. It’s quite the ride but extremely worth it. I wish you nothing but the best!
im in the same boat, im about to apply for AD im going around learning the pros and cons of both AD & NG rn
I’ve been debating this myself, my buddy told me I should go NG and I didn’t know there was a SFG in the NG but I’ve always wanted to go Active Duty for Army SFOD-A… thank you for breaking down the different between the two I don’t think anyone has done a video between the two!
Been waiting for this lol
With this, many states will prioritize 18-series individuals for ADOS and AGR slots within the group and the counter-drug units. Therefore, there’s the possibility of still enjoying the benefits of being a full-time soldier without much of the bureaucracy and paperwork.
That’s awesome!
What are ADOS and AGR slots?
@@jacobl6109 ADOS and AGR are different types of employment opportunities you can get in the NG. ADOS (active duty occupational status) and AGR( active guard reserve). It gives you the opportunity to earn active duty time and benefits through the guard.
The only thing I’ve heard besides over course the obvious job side etc is that if you go to selection and fail in the NG you don’t go to needs of the army like you do AD. You just go back home.
National guard is the smart route.
Im planning on goi g the Guard SF route. Im married, no kids. Was wondering if it better to just full the send the whole pipeline or join then get the 18X contract to break up time away from home.
Obviously a highly personal choice but if I were to choose, I’d go 18x off the bat. It’s the most time you’ll ever get in the Army to prep for selection and have all the resources and support around you.
There’s no way around the time away from home and there will never be a good time for it. As long as your family is on board it’s not too bad
If you didn’t go in prior meaning you never served, would you go in now at your current age and mentality?
is a guard bum a bad thing? im confused
Not at all! Just a funny Army term for guys that do it