The dirty little secret is that it's almost always just 4/4 and don't use polyrhythms. They just have crazy subdivisions. That's why it still sounds groovy
So, people are trying to compare Haake with guys like Mangini and saying Mangini is "faster" and has more technique. They don't realize that Haake has mastered the art of playing extremely complex polyrhythms while simultaneously maintaining a driving 4/4 Groove with great Feel and Taste, 3 traits that are sorely lacking in a majority of Metal drummers who are more concerned with only speed and technique. One exception would be Gene Hoglan, who has tremendous chops, but also has groove and feel.
Haake and Mangini have different strengths. Mike's timing is perfect, and his speed is on world record, but Thomas may or may not have more skill regarding polyrhythm. My money is betting on Mangini, though.
AS5A the way Thomas can play different time signatures at the same time is mind blowing. The level of coordination to have each limb completely independent is ridiculous.
If you check VRES on CZcams, he has done a 100% accurate cover of Nothing and Chaosphere, and you can download the stems and isolate the drums and bass too. It’s incredible
I still come back and watch this from time to time. Never realized how much the bass adds to meshuggahs music until I saw this years ago. Lovgren is responsible for a lot of the low end growl and punch that people just think is the 8 string guitars. Amazing bass tone and love the tuning he uses. Downtuned guitars and uptuned bass, only meshuggah could have thought of that haha.
i feel like most people dont appreciate that intro solo, I listened to that thing about 5 times just now and the kind of rhythms he's doing is absolutely fuckin insane. this is virtuoso jazz drumming in a metal style
That's actually the sickest bass tone Ive heard. Seriously I love those 8 strings as much as the next guy but I wish we could hear that 5 string chainsaw if you know what I mean.
I don't mean to talk down guitarists or singer but to me most important part of Meshuggah have always been drums and bass. They make the groove that the band needs. Everything else is built on that. That is why I love this video... It works, it is absolutely Meshuggah and nothing else.
Valtteri Manala Id have to disagree, each member of meshuggah adds a dimension. The vocals add a whole other segment of timing tone and meaning. Listen to how Jens approaches the verse, its very intricate.
@Rowan Melton Yeah I think Haake and Thordendal do most of the writing including the lyrics. Though Jens wrote Behind the Sun and lyrics for some of the songs.
@@JimDarkmagicThe4th Mårten and Fredrik has written most of their songs in the past, with Thomas writing the drum beats for the riffs, most of the lyrics, (Mårten also writes lyrics quite a bit) and usually Thomas creates the rhythmic pattern for the lyrics as well though I'm not sure about who makes the "melodies" (Jens does change between different notes every now and then though it can be hard to hear) Then there are some exceptions, Jens has written a few songs on earlier records, especially on CC when he played rhythm guitar and Mårten wasn't in the band yet, and he also wrote Behind the Sun on Koloss. Then for The Violent Sleep of Reason, Dick finally got to write some songs, he actually wrote most of the album together with Thomas, I think 6 of the 10 songs were written by him. I'm really looking forward to seeing how they will work in the future, because I really enjoyed the stuff Dick and Thomas wrote on tVSoR.
I think a better way of saying would be that the rythm section (drums/bass) makes up the core of their sound, while the guitars and vocals give the songs their driving force and meaning
I’m not sure. Most bands, yes, the rhythm section is usually doing its own thing to either support or lead the melodic section, but meshuggah, it’s all rhythm. Every instrument serves the rhythm and nothing more. And it’s great
this music is not for everyone. that's it. people saying this is crap or only drums are technical and stuff like that, they just cant understand what they're listening. first time I felt it really messy and monotonous. but the more I understood the more I respect them.
I wish they would have tempo changes and breakdowns. Very very monotonous. Killer groove but the same thing for 5 min in every song. Zzz zzz. While highly respected, about the most boring band in metal.
Ability to understand polyrhythms heavily correlates with overall musicality. Basically, if you think Meshuggah is good music, it's pretty strong sing you're a somewhat musical person, because to average music listener it will just sound chaotic. Even for musical people it might sometimes, if they lose the beat (no shame in it, I know a professional drummer who says that happens with Meshuggah, sometimes). Sure the hi-hat or cymbal counts usually the 4/4 but to feel the groove you gotta know where the segment start point and middle point is. Not just where the beat is.
You know I didnt understand Meshuggah at first but I always found them very relaxing to listen to. And when people tell me im intense or super hype im like this is what it sounds like in my brain 24/7. I think its the complex yet relentless rythms and time signatures that i find soothing, it makes other music seem boring by comparison
Saw these guys live once, I'll never forget it. They opened for Tool. Best concert ever! Haake played a drum solo with Danny during Tool's set. Two of my idols playing together. It was amazing.
I feel like Dick gets shunned to the side by the rest of the band. But seriously, can you imagine playing bleed on a bass string? That would be frickin insane.
@@existentialopal721 Clockworks, Monstrocity, By The Ton, Violent Sleep of Reason, Stifled, Nostrum, The Abysmal Eye, Phantoms, God He Sees in Mirrors, Kaleidoscope, Armies of the Preposterous. In other words, all the most complex and awesome songs from the last two albums!
I've seen Jamie Postones, Matthew Gartska, Mike Mangini, Mario Duplantier, Marco Minnemann perform live but trust me, even sparing the metric complexity, Haake's snare hit sounds like an invincible apocalypse.
Truth. I didn't even know Meshuggah existed a week ago and already I am convinced that these guys are some of the best rythmicly inclined people I have ever seen.
This is the musicians metal, his approach to playing is so individual and impressive,as a drummer of 34 years I can't help but be inspired to learn more when I listen to Thomas play.
Haake is a master. And dick is such an underrated bass player, he might be strictly in rhythm mode all the time but these are very challenging time signatures and listen to how even his playing is. Perfect.
Something about the sheer force and pocket of his wrist strokes. His rim shots, crash hits, accents on the toms feel like bricks being slammed into your head…absolutely massive sounding. And his movements are all so relaxed and fluid. And his groove is just outrageous
His feet are basically playing what the rhythm guitar would be playing, his drumming is so impressive and mathematically ridiculously hard to learn. It took me nearly 3 years of practicing this song for one hour on a Saturday and Sunday before I could actually play it well, no other song I've ever had to learn has taken me that long, usual I can listen to the song I'm learning, play along with it s couple of times,then play it with the band a couple of times and IV got it, bleed however is on another level entirely.
Thomas Haake is such a humble badass. Did you see Alive? He says " I could barely keep up with the band at first." WTF! He IS the rhythm of Meshuggah, and one of the greatest metal drummers ever. His mind calculates polyrhythms like Arnold's Terminator Computer mind.
It's not just about the rhythm, it's about the way these riffs *sound* and *feel*. The melodic component is in the guitar riffs, and that's what makes the rhythmic stuff sound cool. If you come to this music with a bias then you will miss everything.
3:17 'In Death is Life' sounds a million times better as just drums and bass than it does on full record. In fact here it sounds like one of the best riffs ever, with guitar added not so much :(
That's not in death is life at 3:17 though, the song he's playing is the intro to perpetual black second off of nothing. He does go into in death is life after though at 3:46. They just merged the riffs.
No offense, but i feel really sorry for simple minded folk who cant find groove in this. move along and listen to something that's been recycled and reproduced specifically for your basic listening needs.
To all you guys saying that its simple and easy to be played, listen to the bass drum, it is always exactly in time with this "random" rhythm play on the bass. They both know it perfectly. But yet it sounds almost patternless sometimes. That's amazing.
No matter how much I try I will never enjoy listening to Meshuggah. However, I cannot stop watching Tomas Drumming videos. I may not dig what is on the cd musically but I sure do appreciate the effort. It really is mind blowing. I know as a guitarist I would just throw my stuff down and walk out trying to hang with these 2.
Meecrob462 ofcourse i like a lot of other drummers including danny carey, it was just an exaggeration haha :D I saw somewhere that tool is one of tomas' and the other members' favorite bands
his bass is properly set up. it's in drop Bb. Meshuggah's guitarists tune all the way down to F standard, almost an entire octave down. So what Dick does is plays on the same octave as them for anything under Bb, and then plays an octave below for anything Bb and above.
Not to be offensive to the fans but I can't get into this band.....people talk about groove etc but I feel no groove at all in this. all their songs seem flat and one dimensional...I know poly rhythms indepence to you guys=dimensions lol.. The bass sounds terrible...Yep I'm completely missing what you guys see in this band......I think Pantera have more groove than these guys.......... even simple stuff like broken to me has more power and groove but that was just one example of many but yeah he he you can slay me now and call me all those cool names I don't mind :-)
This is a bass and drum video missing {members of the band, its a video for musicians that like Meshuggah. Nobody gives a shit about your opinion on Meshuggah as a whole so why don't you waste your time posting that on an official video so you can be downvoted to nothing and continue your CZcams career?
Jimbob I love the way the drummer sounds like he's improvising not just in this session but quite a few songs, it doesn't sound restricted to the Rutger of the bass and guitar, fills and rolls with no warning, feels like jazz
I really dig the bass sound! Thanks to whomever for the clearly recorded upload! It provides an awesome opportunity to check out stellar musicianship without all of the screaming.
This goes to show that much of the djent sound is not based solely on the guitar but also on the heavy distorted bass. Something many djent projects seem to neglect
@F3nd3r09 Meshuggah use two eight-string guitars, both tuned so that the lowest note is usually F (one semitone up from the lowest note on a standard-tuned 4-string bass), and the distortion tones on the guitars usually cover the bass and treble ranges. I remember them mentioning that the bass is used to fill in the mid-tones, hence it's so distorted and lacks bass. It just thickens the guitar sound, as opposed to providing a bassline.
It's because the guitars and bass are in the exact same tuning of F, which is rare in most music, so if you think about it, Dick is just playing a more bass-ey and less crunchy version of Fredrik and Marten's parts, he just has 5 strings instead of 8. So in essence yes, Meshuggah has 3 guitarists, just one plays a bass instead of an 8 string guitar.
Do what comes naturally, do it well, do your own thing, do it better than anyone else, and work harder than anyone else. No further discussion necessary.
Vistited Sonor Factory in Germany, you can check on their drum designer setup online. They do a veneer that can either match the outside color of the shell, be natural, or be a darker veneer finish, even if the drum is a lighter color, say maple, the darker veneer on the shell's interior gives it that real cool dark look.
- 0:07 : DRUM SOLO - 1:08 : Organic Shadows (From the Album Nothing [2002]) - 2:22 : Rational Gaze (From the Album Nothing [2002] aswell) - 3:18 : In Death is life (From the Album Catch 33 [2005) - 3:46 : In Death is Death (From the Album Catch 33 [2005] aswell)
The small thing above the high tom and below the two crashes is actually roto tom rims on top of each. I've fooled with it before and it create a real cool chime sound. Terry Bozzio also has something similar
@pjcestenz he uses two tunings for the older Meshuggah stuff he plays in B flat standard so its just a five string a half step down, for the 8 string stuff like nothing and obzen, he tunes drop B flat so basically he tuned the 5 string up to C standard and dropped the low C to B flat.
Anyone who thinks meshuggah is easy go and learn 2 full songs and get back to me. It becomes apparent how intricate and different their music is once you try to learn it
Its supposed to have quite a distorted signal through it. The Lundgren pickups in a Warwick dolphin pro bass with a very low tuning adds a deep growl to it and becomes a necessity is meshuggah's heavy sound.
![Tomas Haake visiting Morgan Ågren [drumtalk special]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/gJRC-Gp1kO0/mqdefault.jpg)
![Rig Rundown - Meshuggah's Fredrik Thordendal, Mårten Hagström, & Dick Lövgren [2016]](/img/n.gif)
That bass tone crushes everything in its path
That's why for a while, my dream bass was a Warwick dolphin pro 1, until I saw the retail price 😳
it also crushes your spine
Haake's hands play in 4/4 time; his feet follow some quantum relativity law
The formula's out on that one!
Best comment on CZcams.
Ehh, but most times it's the other way around
This shit gave me aids.
The dirty little secret is that it's almost always just 4/4 and don't use polyrhythms. They just have crazy subdivisions. That's why it still sounds groovy
So, people are trying to compare Haake with guys like Mangini and saying Mangini is "faster" and has more technique. They don't realize that Haake has mastered the art of playing extremely complex polyrhythms while simultaneously maintaining a driving 4/4 Groove with great Feel and Taste, 3 traits that are sorely lacking in a majority of Metal drummers who are more concerned with only speed and technique. One exception would be Gene Hoglan, who has tremendous chops, but also has groove and feel.
Mangini's a fucking boring drummer
Haake and Mangini have different strengths. Mike's timing is perfect, and his speed is on world record, but Thomas may or may not have more skill regarding polyrhythm. My money is betting on Mangini, though.
AS5A the way Thomas can play different time signatures at the same time is mind blowing. The level of coordination to have each limb completely independent is ridiculous.
You forgot Tool´s drummer, Mr. Danny Carey, Polyrythms with a driving pulse is his main thing.
Well said, AS5A. I agree with all of this.
I could spend all my day listening to an album with just drum and bass of these guys.
Me too. I’ve been a fan of the band since ‘97. I’m so happy that they’re on tour.
Just record a power drill, slow it down and put autotune on it
If you check VRES on CZcams, he has done a 100% accurate cover of Nothing and Chaosphere, and you can download the stems and isolate the drums and bass too. It’s incredible
@@johnzackarias11 i wish this was funny for you
@@SpiritofPoison dang!
0:53 Organic Shadows
2:21 Rational Gaze
3:17 In Death - Is Life
3:45 In Death - Is Death
is 1:07 Stengah?
Othniel Cheng it's Organic shadows, the guitar solo part : )
Yeah 1:07 is Organic Shadows too but Tomas Haake is playing on the bell rather than on the stacker.
alex pelo 0:53 is Organic Shadows too, just the tom part
Luke Sanderson alex pelo Thanks for your help!
I still come back and watch this from time to time. Never realized how much the bass adds to meshuggahs music until I saw this years ago. Lovgren is responsible for a lot of the low end growl and punch that people just think is the 8 string guitars. Amazing bass tone and love the tuning he uses. Downtuned guitars and uptuned bass, only meshuggah could have thought of that haha.
i feel like most people dont appreciate that intro solo, I listened to that thing about 5 times just now and the kind of rhythms he's doing is absolutely fuckin insane. this is virtuoso jazz drumming in a metal style
What people?
This solo is insane. Reminds me of fusion solos.
That's actually the sickest bass tone Ive heard. Seriously I love those 8 strings as much as the next guy but I wish we could hear that 5 string chainsaw if you know what I mean.
Meshuggah should be a mandatory class you have to take in school or college.
Best comment
But everyone will fail !
Who's a better drummer thomas haake or travis barker?
Patrick Sweeney Barker obviously
GrooveMetalBruh\m/ lmaooo
I need two brains to understand Haake
+Can Berker Özdem more like four brains, one for each limb :/
I don't mean to talk down guitarists or singer but to me most important part of Meshuggah have always been drums and bass. They make the groove that the band needs. Everything else is built on that.
That is why I love this video... It works, it is absolutely Meshuggah and nothing else.
Valtteri Manala Id have to disagree, each member of meshuggah adds a dimension. The vocals add a whole other segment of timing tone and meaning. Listen to how Jens approaches the verse, its very intricate.
@Rowan Melton Yeah I think Haake and Thordendal do most of the writing including the lyrics. Though Jens wrote Behind the Sun and lyrics for some of the songs.
@@JimDarkmagicThe4th Mårten and Fredrik has written most of their songs in the past, with Thomas writing the drum beats for the riffs, most of the lyrics, (Mårten also writes lyrics quite a bit) and usually Thomas creates the rhythmic pattern for the lyrics as well though I'm not sure about who makes the "melodies" (Jens does change between different notes every now and then though it can be hard to hear)
Then there are some exceptions, Jens has written a few songs on earlier records, especially on CC when he played rhythm guitar and Mårten wasn't in the band yet, and he also wrote Behind the Sun on Koloss.
Then for The Violent Sleep of Reason, Dick finally got to write some songs, he actually wrote most of the album together with Thomas, I think 6 of the 10 songs were written by him.
I'm really looking forward to seeing how they will work in the future, because I really enjoyed the stuff Dick and Thomas wrote on tVSoR.
I think a better way of saying would be that the rythm section (drums/bass) makes up the core of their sound, while the guitars and vocals give the songs their driving force and meaning
I’m not sure. Most bands, yes, the rhythm section is usually doing its own thing to either support or lead the melodic section, but meshuggah, it’s all rhythm. Every instrument serves the rhythm and nothing more. And it’s great
this music is not for everyone. that's it. people saying this is crap or only drums are technical and stuff like that, they just cant understand what they're listening. first time I felt it really messy and monotonous. but the more I understood the more I respect them.
That's how I go with most Meshuggah songs tbh
an acquired taste indeed, that only gets tastier.
I wish they would have tempo changes and breakdowns. Very very monotonous. Killer groove but the same thing for 5 min in every song. Zzz zzz. While highly respected, about the most boring band in metal.
Ability to understand polyrhythms heavily correlates with overall musicality. Basically, if you think Meshuggah is good music, it's pretty strong sing you're a somewhat musical person, because to average music listener it will just sound chaotic. Even for musical people it might sometimes, if they lose the beat (no shame in it, I know a professional drummer who says that happens with Meshuggah, sometimes). Sure the hi-hat or cymbal counts usually the 4/4 but to feel the groove you gotta know where the segment start point and middle point is. Not just where the beat is.
You know I didnt understand Meshuggah at first but I always found them very relaxing to listen to. And when people tell me im intense or super hype im like this is what it sounds like in my brain 24/7. I think its the complex yet relentless rythms and time signatures that i find soothing, it makes other music seem boring by comparison
Saw these guys live once, I'll never forget it. They opened for Tool. Best concert ever! Haake played a drum solo with Danny during Tool's set. Two of my idols playing together. It was amazing.
Wait whatt?? I need to see a recording of that!
that bass timbre is like a angry demonic buffalo
kkkkkkkk
Right on
Lmao this fucking comment
I see it now thanks! Spot on
I feel like Dick gets shunned to the side by the rest of the band.
But seriously, can you imagine playing bleed on a bass string? That would be frickin insane.
I've come back to this comment 8 years later to tell you he now writes all their best songs
@@supermot34 Dick is so underrated, man
@@supermot34 He was learning from the best, and now he has surpassed them xD
@@supermot34 what songs has lövgren wrote for meshuggah? I don’t think I know anything about who does what except for the koloss documentary.
@@existentialopal721 Clockworks, Monstrocity, By The Ton, Violent Sleep of Reason, Stifled, Nostrum, The Abysmal Eye, Phantoms, God He Sees in Mirrors, Kaleidoscope, Armies of the Preposterous. In other words, all the most complex and awesome songs from the last two albums!
This video really show how much the bass really plays a part in Meshuggah's sound.
4:46 the super-mega-lightspeed technician all drummers dreamed about
I've seen Jamie Postones, Matthew Gartska, Mike Mangini, Mario Duplantier, Marco Minnemann perform live but trust me, even sparing the metric complexity, Haake's snare hit sounds like an invincible apocalypse.
Yes, that's right!
Those bends he does on bass :)
This is very satisfying to watch and listen.
Truth. I didn't even know Meshuggah existed a week ago and already I am convinced that these guys are some of the best rythmicly inclined people I have ever seen.
This is the musicians metal, his approach to playing is so individual and impressive,as a drummer of 34 years I can't help but be inspired to learn more when I listen to Thomas play.
Omg that bass tone
I could listen to just these two playing for HOURS, Thomas's drums and Dick's basd makes Meshuggah for me🔥🔥
😂❤❤❤
How can anyone dislike this? It's work that obviously takes hours of dedication to have down, just like any other art!
My brain interprets this as arousal.
+Lucas Pacheco HHahahahah comment of the year man xD A shame it's gotten no more likes
same.
Haake is a master. And dick is such an underrated bass player, he might be strictly in rhythm mode all the time but these are very challenging time signatures and listen to how even his playing is. Perfect.
This makes me feel like im a caveman senselessly beating tree strumps with logs when i drum.
while that might be true, there's nothing wrong about that. sometimes that's just what's needed
Something about the sheer force and pocket of his wrist strokes. His rim shots, crash hits, accents on the toms feel like bricks being slammed into your head…absolutely massive sounding. And his movements are all so relaxed and fluid. And his groove is just outrageous
His feet are basically playing what the rhythm guitar would be playing, his drumming is so impressive and mathematically ridiculously hard to learn.
It took me nearly 3 years of practicing this song for one hour on a Saturday and Sunday before I could actually play it well, no other song I've ever had to learn has taken me that long, usual I can listen to the song I'm learning, play along with it s couple of times,then play it with the band a couple of times and IV got it, bleed however is on another level entirely.
This is soothing to my adult ADHD brain. Every note fills me with joy x
I just love how his bass almost sounds like a heartbeat.... (L)
01:08 And then, a new galaxy was conceived, ladies and gentleman. Holy mother of cyborg pornography.
Tomas Haake has to be my favourite drummer of them all, I just love his style of drumming - everything sounds so good!!
I'm a Tama guy - but have to give props where deserved - his Sonor kit is a monster.
normal people: what is this noise?
me: this is the best sounds ive ever heard.
I just glanced at the description and saw "Dick on the bass." and the juvenile child in me laughed.
Thomas Haake is such a humble badass. Did you see Alive? He says " I could barely keep up with the band at first." WTF! He IS the rhythm of Meshuggah, and one of the greatest metal drummers ever. His mind calculates polyrhythms like Arnold's Terminator Computer mind.
It's not just about the rhythm, it's about the way these riffs *sound* and *feel*. The melodic component is in the guitar riffs, and that's what makes the rhythmic stuff sound cool. If you come to this music with a bias then you will miss everything.
woooooord (Y)
I love watching him play top 5 drummers for sure his groove is off the charts
3:17 'In Death is Life' sounds a million times better as just drums and bass than it does on full record. In fact here it sounds like one of the best riffs ever, with guitar added not so much :(
Agreed. The album is mixed in a bad way, and that sucks because the music material is very interesting.
Bullshit.
That's not in death is life at 3:17 though, the song he's playing is the intro to perpetual black second off of nothing. He does go into in death is life after though at 3:46. They just merged the riffs.
This is my type of drum 'n' bass \m/
2:20 Rational Gaze!!!!
....I never knew anything could be this awesome....
This is just pure sludge seeping into my head holes, and I couldn't want it any other way. Such dank percussive riffage! 🤘
2:22 best part
Fucken a thats the best part
1:08 reminds me of the intro of The Art of Dying by Gojira
No offense, but i feel really sorry for simple minded folk who cant find groove in this. move along and listen to something that's been recycled and reproduced specifically for your basic listening needs.
couldnt have said it better myself
Agree!
limixz28 /r/iamverysmart
M'lady
limixz28 'oh someone doesnt like my music style, they must be inferior cause im so much better'
/r/iamverysmart indeed.
To all you guys saying that its simple and easy to be played, listen to the bass drum, it is always exactly in time with this "random" rhythm play on the bass. They both know it perfectly. But yet it sounds almost patternless sometimes. That's amazing.
No matter how much I try I will never enjoy listening to Meshuggah. However, I cannot stop watching Tomas Drumming videos. I may not dig what is on the cd musically but I sure do appreciate the effort. It really is mind blowing. I know as a guitarist I would just throw my stuff down and walk out trying to hang with these 2.
WHY THE FUCK DO PEOPLE THINK JOEY JORDISON IN GOOD?
he is and he’s cool and influential. But compared to thomas he is a king whilst Haake is a fucking God
You mean is good? Cause he's good player, of course it's not Haake's level of course
10/10 bass tone.
142 people don't even have a clue about what is going on there - poor souls 😆😆😆
After all these years, I keep on coming back to this madness!
41 people couldn't handle the pure awesomeness of this video
This is why tomas haake shits on every other modern metal drummer!
Ahem...Danny Carey. Tomas Haake is definitely one of my favorites though.
Meecrob462 ofcourse i like a lot of other drummers including danny carey, it was just an exaggeration haha :D I saw somewhere that tool is one of tomas' and the other members' favorite bands
Meecrob462 jon theodore and tomas haake are on another level than danny carey
Tool is rock@@Meecrob462
this one djents
3:46 0_0
his bass is properly set up. it's in drop Bb. Meshuggah's guitarists tune all the way down to F standard, almost an entire octave down. So what Dick does is plays on the same octave as them for anything under Bb, and then plays an octave below for anything Bb and above.
Masterpiece; brings a tear to my eye
These people in the comment section......
Not to be offensive to the fans but I can't get into this band.....people talk about groove etc but I feel no groove at all in this. all their songs seem flat and one dimensional...I know poly rhythms indepence to you guys=dimensions lol.. The bass sounds terrible...Yep I'm completely missing what you guys see in this band......I think Pantera have more groove than these guys.......... even simple stuff like broken to me has more power and groove but that was just one example of many but yeah he he you can slay me now and call me all those cool names I don't mind :-)
This is a bass and drum video missing {members of the band, its a video for musicians that like Meshuggah. Nobody gives a shit about your opinion on Meshuggah as a whole so why don't you waste your time posting that on an official video so you can be downvoted to nothing and continue your CZcams career?
Hang on.... "Jim bob"? Do you actually listen to CarterUSM? You must be like 60 yrs old lol
Mugenloo Now now lets not be silly aye. I'm glad you like this band I think that's fantastic :-)
And thanks for caring enough to share your opinion based on my opinion.
By the way just for the record... what is carterUSM?
Haake should write a book on how to understand his time signatures, cause I can not comprehend how his mind can rock like that.
My favorite rhythm section any band I've heard, thanks for posting this man.
Jimbob I love the way the drummer sounds like he's improvising not just in this session but quite a few songs, it doesn't sound restricted to the Rutger of the bass and guitar, fills and rolls with no warning, feels like jazz
First video I ever watched about Haake. Stoked for the upcoming Meshuggah record! Jazz ethos + metal drumming = Best metal drumming.
@CRAZYGROUCHO and you sir, are what society needs when it comes to appreciating different types of music.
this is so bouncy. I love it
I remember watching this 10 years ago, always been a huge fan of Tomas and Meshuggah. He was rocking the those Puma Speedcats to.
Love his his whole drumset just vibrates, he's so energetic, and uses his whole body to keep the grove going!
Been listening to this religiously for years
I really dig the bass sound! Thanks to whomever for the clearly recorded upload! It provides an awesome opportunity to check out stellar musicianship without all of the screaming.
Damn, i could listen to this awesomeness all day long..
This goes to show that much of the djent sound is not based solely on the guitar but also on the heavy distorted bass.
Something many djent projects seem to neglect
I've seen this video more than any other on youtube and it's still not boring. Meshuggah are the best band ever!
Probably the only video on CZcams I leave the annotations on for.
STILL absolutely incredible to the point of making goosebumps on my skin. Yes!!
@F3nd3r09 Meshuggah use two eight-string guitars, both tuned so that the lowest note is usually F (one semitone up from the lowest note on a standard-tuned 4-string bass), and the distortion tones on the guitars usually cover the bass and treble ranges. I remember them mentioning that the bass is used to fill in the mid-tones, hence it's so distorted and lacks bass. It just thickens the guitar sound, as opposed to providing a bassline.
It's because the guitars and bass are in the exact same tuning of F, which is rare in most music, so if you think about it, Dick is just playing a more bass-ey and less crunchy version of Fredrik and Marten's parts, he just has 5 strings instead of 8. So in essence yes, Meshuggah has 3 guitarists, just one plays a bass instead of an 8 string guitar.
My favorite rhythm section!
This band is simply a mile ahead of any other band . Just superb
“You haven’t seen this magnificent performance in a few months, you cool?” -YT
Do what comes naturally, do it well, do your own thing, do it better than anyone else, and work harder than anyone else. No further discussion necessary.
One of the best drummer alive and out there.. HAAKE MASTER, come to brazil with meshuggah soon!!
Vistited Sonor Factory in Germany, you can check on their drum designer setup online. They do a veneer that can either match the outside color of the shell, be natural, or be a darker veneer finish, even if the drum is a lighter color, say maple, the darker veneer on the shell's interior gives it that real cool dark look.
- 0:07 : DRUM SOLO
- 1:08 : Organic Shadows (From the Album Nothing [2002])
- 2:22 : Rational Gaze (From the Album Nothing [2002] aswell)
- 3:18 : In Death is life (From the Album Catch 33 [2005)
- 3:46 : In Death is Death (From the Album Catch 33 [2005] aswell)
This is amazing
When they enter into that Obzen (song) riff it's just too great for words...
Tomas Haake actually has 4 brains, that's how he maintains 4 different rhythms at once.
This is totally addictive. They've chosen some of their best riffs for sure...
The small thing above the high tom and below the two crashes is actually roto tom rims on top of each. I've fooled with it before and it create a real cool chime sound. Terry Bozzio also has something similar
Legend sir love you you are the best i know
simply fucking amazing. seen them live decades ago,and was blown away by their live performance.that fucking monster bass tone though!
This is Dick Lovgren. I use it as a crash
Most amazing duo in the history of music.
@pjcestenz he uses two tunings for the older Meshuggah stuff he plays in B flat standard so its just a five string a half step down, for the 8 string stuff like nothing and obzen, he tunes drop B flat so basically he tuned the 5 string up to C standard and dropped the low C to B flat.
That transition to rational gaze was smooth as fuck.
the effect on that bass is pretty freaking meann
Anyone who thinks meshuggah is easy go and learn 2 full songs and get back to me.
It becomes apparent how intricate and different their music is once you try to learn it
Its supposed to have quite a distorted signal through it. The Lundgren pickups in a Warwick dolphin pro bass with a very low tuning adds a deep growl to it and becomes a necessity is meshuggah's heavy sound.