Secret to Meshuggah's mix...the bass. So many bands miss the fact that bass guitar adds so much to the sound. I like that Meshuggah as a band understands so well that it's tone/soul starts with the bass and the drums.
@@behindthen0thing Gustav was in the band just to play the song live, they hired him for that, and when he tried to give some contribution they fired him. Dick wrote stuff as well, see TVSOR or Immutable. If you want to compare Dick with someone that would be Peter
It’s so crazy how when he’s just soloing, he has a lot in common with gospel drummers in terms of fullness fills and chops. Never would I have though a metal drummer would have that type of vibe. Incredible.
Tomas' touch on the kit is exquisite. If you didn't know anything about him, you wouldn't say he's a metal drummer. One of the most original, refreshing and innovative drummers for sure. Been a pleasure listening to him play all these years.
Really cool to hear Tomas play with some swing. That’s not something you get too often in Meshuggah and if you do, it’s accompanied by a guitar riff in 17
Camera guys assume @4:24 that Meshuggah will eventually loose count of the beat and they go home... They come back to work 12 hours later... @ 4:27 to find that Meshuggah has finally just passed the warm up phase of their first routine...
Haake is so much more than just drums. The kit is an example of that. Just an incredible video for anyone who plays bass or drums. Inspiration right here. Haake is one of the greats! Perhaps the COOLEST part of this, is he uses EVERYTHING on the kit. That is what a clinic is all about.
@@anonymouskirbyfeet5457 I’m not talking about the notes or song. I’m talking about him hitting every drum and every cymbal. There is purpose to his approach to drums beyond ability and skill. Everything he hits has reason. Hence, making it a really cool clinic. Jazzy as f.
@tarfathewise I'm a jazz and classical nerd and meshuggah peaked my interest because of how jazzy they are...which makes me be able to get past the fact that their super freakin heavy ...best metal band by far imo🫡
The work of Lovgren to build the band sound is great, two 8th strings guitars could erase all other instruments but the bass has his unique line! What a touch!
It’s so satisfying to hear Thomas dig into that ride bell at the beginning of the bass section. That grooved HARD. Not really much ride bell sections like that if any at all in meshuggahs discography from what I’ve heard.
@@poodle3507 not in this vid though. you can hear them speeding up a little bit. they're human after all. since 2005 I think they've incorporated click tracks in all their live stuff. download fest 05 is still without and it's noticeable.
@@Yggdra666 Hahaha yes. They should have a drum battle. They are friends so it could totally happen! But they don't need to wins or prove anything to me - just as long as they play. They are both my drum idols. Their drumming has had so much impact, influence and inspiration on me. After being that guy that never shuts up about them to every other musician I know and meet - now they are finally getting the recognition and place in the drumming word as two greats that just took shit to a whole new level and made us all better for it.
rhythm & bass has always been my favorite part of music, it speaks to the core of my spirit being! my heart beats to the rhythm of tomas haake's drumming. thank you for the upload
Fun fact: the guys in Meshuggah first came together to form a jazz-band, however their heavy approached changed then to. Metal-fusion band. They kept the Jazz concept for the guitar solos.
+Daniel Lindholm Don't know if they're first thing was to do jazz, but they are all fusion players for sure, and they list their influences on Destroy Erase Improve. Dick (bassist) came from a fusion band of some kind. You could argue that progressive metal is linked to jazz through fusion, but it's all American music anyway. I mean...just about all Metal/Hard Rock, etc is linked to jazz in many ways.
Their initial setup was jazz, but they were experimenting with metal and they came up with this cool crossover. Not american in anyway.. they're swedish.
+Daniel Lindholm - their first album was progressive heavy metal, with changing meters - Contradictions Collapse. Progressive Metal is 100% related to jazz. The music that they play now is related to jazz, even though it's still progressive metal. They (the members of the band) are Swedish sure, but without American music, Meshuggah would not exist. Get the album "Destroy Erase Improve and look at their influences...better yet I will list some, since I find myself constantly telling people about their influences.
+Daniel Lindholm Okay, dig this - the first influence that they list is Earth Wind and Fire. 100% American. Next few influences are Steely Dan, Slayer (Reign in Blood), Chet Baker, Queensryche, and Pink Floyd. All American bands. They even list American movies like Starwars, Forest Gump, and so forth. There may be bands today that might sound unique to their country, but you can't separate American music from Meshuggah's sound in any way. Jens sings in English. All metal is related to American music, and more specifically jazz. Once the lead guitarist starts playing a solo of any kind, or if the riffs have any blues in them whatsoever, that's your indication. It sounds grossly oversimplified, but think that through. Metallica (one of Meshuggah's influences) is also related to jazz fusion by way of the blues. All this being said, I would never call Meshuggah or Metallica/Anthrax/Slayer/Primus/Metalchurch, etc (all influences on Meshuggah's music) jazz. I would call it either "metal" or "heavy metal" or progressive music. What you're saying has some merit, but Meshuggah started as a metal band.
He generates so much power but with so much finesse... Its like someone in the audience said, "Hey can you guys fiddle around a little." And, since it was said as a statement they just nodded in agreement and played most of their favorite licks.
Death Culture Metal Production does it best... Best learn today! lol but really you can make it cut through the mix with the Steven Slate drum VST... But hey otherwise that would be 100% true.
He’s mentioned that he never took drum lessons, which is absolutely incredible to me as he seems well disciplined and has great ergonomics to his playing ….that is.. if he wasn’t fucking with the interviewer but didn’t seem like it
The thing I love the most from this comment section is that there are many of us that come from time to time to post how awesome something is or to add something. Mindblowing as like the first time that I listened to this. You understand and appreciate a lot of things. Timeless.
![Tomas Haake & Gene Hoglan on Bleed and Haake's drumming - drumtalk [single strokes 01]](/img/n.gif)
Secret to Meshuggah's mix...the bass. So many bands miss the fact that bass guitar adds so much to the sound. I like that Meshuggah as a band understands so well that it's tone/soul starts with the bass and the drums.
The guitars basically are basses.
@@molochz get the fuck out lmfao
In a interview I seen, they said they did consider all playing bass guitars when they were making the "Nothing" album.
I would say the trick is.
4’s.
@@molochz The strings have a different tone, though, so when they combine it just sounds gargantuan
that bass tone is eargasmc
WARWICK
Does he still use aguilar?
@@skippityblippity8656 I believe he’s now using the axe fx 2
Pick + Bass = Approved
Lövgren has absolutely incredible pick attack. Couldn't have a better bassist for Meshuggah.
the worst part in this is he said somewhere that he prefer playing in fingerstyle and not with a pick XD
what about gustaf
What pick is he using?
@@behindthen0thing Gustav was in the band just to play the song live, they hired him for that, and when he tried to give some contribution they fired him. Dick wrote stuff as well, see TVSOR or Immutable. If you want to compare Dick with someone that would be Peter
@@jack_6955 Hey Beavis, he said Dick....heh heh heh....heh heh heh
With tone like this, who needs a guitarist?
as a guitarist, i can’t argue with that
right on.
@@stupendous7848 as a drummer, fuck you
Right?
@@planetgame779 lol.that's not how "battle of the bands" works!
One of the most intense rhythm sections in metal today.
the whole band is a rhythmic section lol, minus Fredrik's solos I guess
@@watashiwajigabudesu9662 the solos are very rhythmic aswell
@@watashiwajigabudesu9662 concatenations solo would like to have a word
Metal-Jazz-Fusion drum solo. Love it.
0:00 Solo
2:16 Organic Shadows
3:31 Rational Gaze
4:26 Is Death - Is Life
Are you happy now?
Clickable time stamps would’ve been preferable
Linus Wärn might not have been easy 7 years ago...
Emmanuel Mayor actually goes into in death is death too
"Then praise your God and bow"
@@conteudogenerico1544 well playrd
Holy shit that bass tone is insane I never realized how much of Meshuggah sound was coming from the bass
Not sure what is in his signal chain, but the fact that he's playing a Warwick has a lot to do with that tone. Great basses for metal if you ask me!
@@andrewaavik Back in the day, Gustaf ran through a Mesa Dual Rec!
Now that is a clinic that'll cure your depression.
It’s so crazy how when he’s just soloing, he has a lot in common with gospel drummers in terms of fullness fills and chops. Never would I have though a metal drummer would have that type of vibe. Incredible.
That's more similar to a old school fusion style drum solo (this reminds me a lot of Dennis Chambers), gospel drumming is a little bit different
Funny you should say that... I was just suddenly thinking of Larnell Lewis (Snarky Puppy), go check him out and you'll know what I mean!
His fills are incredibly tasty. Dynamics arr a huge part of that. Its cool see a metal dummer do that
That’s why meshuggah are so groovy. The polyrhythms and layered time signatures help out but Tomas’ drumming is just so full of feel
Tomas' touch on the kit is exquisite. If you didn't know anything about him, you wouldn't say he's a metal drummer.
One of the most original, refreshing and innovative drummers for sure. Been a pleasure listening to him play all these years.
Even when playing the most wacked out shit, Tomas never looks anything other than calm, cool, and collected.
Because nothing is wacked out Sh⭐t to Tomas. He ALWAYS manages to Make and figure out insane stuff only he could make.
agree! (Also nice profile pic, shout-out to the demi and A-spectrum metalheads!)
THAT SNARE TONE
it compliments the kick so well
True, so solid.
It's a Sonor!! Enough said!
Really cool to hear Tomas play with some swing. That’s not something you get too often in Meshuggah and if you do, it’s accompanied by a guitar riff in 17
I was going to say! The intro sounds a bit... jazzy...
In Death never gets old either. I could listen to that part all day.
Hello again, 240p, it's been a long time.
+Eduardo Avila wOW HAHAHAHAHAHA AOH WOW AHAHAHAHAHAHAA SO FUNNNY!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA WOW
Sound is still good
Can't say that I've missed the old bitch.
I didnt see hd until I was already a man
This is literally the quality a high end phone from 2006 played in lol
That is some gnarly bass tone!
Compliments to the chef
Check Please!
At 2:16 when the bass dropped!!! Goddamn, that shit was tight as fuck!!! Meshuggah amazes me. Hands down the greatest heavy ass metal band to me
the fucking fill at 2:28 is just so fucking filthy. he is one of a kind truly
I would gladly become gay for him
Camera guys assume @4:24 that Meshuggah will eventually loose count of the beat and they go home...
They come back to work 12 hours later... @ 4:27 to find that Meshuggah has finally just passed the warm up phase of their first routine...
Wish they'd do a Catch 33 full album play through tour.
How about Nothing, transcending into a catch 33 ?
@@mrveritas700 Exactly what he said !!
I wish sheet music was normalized in genres other than classical and jazz. We would be able to hear stiff like "I" or even crazuer being played live
Haake is so much more than just drums. The kit is an example of that. Just an incredible video for anyone who plays bass or drums. Inspiration right here. Haake is one of the greats! Perhaps the COOLEST part of this, is he uses EVERYTHING on the kit. That is what a clinic is all about.
I think you might have missed the point
Notes. See rational gaze cover with a shovel. As well as how to play bleed with one pedal videos.
@@anonymouskirbyfeet5457 I’m not talking about the notes or song. I’m talking about him hitting every drum and every cymbal. There is purpose to his approach to drums beyond ability and skill. Everything he hits has reason. Hence, making it a really cool clinic. Jazzy as f.
@tarfathewise I'm a jazz and classical nerd and meshuggah peaked my interest because of how jazzy they are...which makes me be able to get past the fact that their super freakin heavy ...best metal band by far imo🫡
The drums tone and configuration of the Nothing/Catch33 era was total perfection!
Amazing rhythm broderhood 🤟
This is pure Drum & Bass ;-)
i could literally listen to this for hours
*- and now you can*
Thank the Creator of all that Meshuggah exists. What would we do without that mathematical, heavy, groove. It moves me internally somehow. 🙏
Dude just *Never* makes a mistake like ever
0:00 Solo
2:16 Organic Shadows
3:31 Rational Gaze
4:26 Is Death - Is Life
The work of Lovgren to build the band sound is great, two 8th strings guitars could erase all other instruments but the bass has his unique line! What a touch!
Sound of that bass and snare tone. Metal at its finest.
It’s so satisfying to hear Thomas dig into that ride bell at the beginning of the bass section. That grooved HARD. Not really much ride bell sections like that if any at all in meshuggahs discography from what I’ve heard.
Haake doesn't need a metronome: he IS the metronome!
@@BigWill2k BAHAHAHAHA
A metronome wouldn't even work for ANYTHING they do lol
@@whiteMCHammer I hope this is some sort of cruel joke, they use metronomes (click tracks) in ear to be synced up live
Oh funny, I've read this comment about Tomas about one million ten thousand three hundred times.
@@poodle3507 not in this vid though. you can hear them speeding up a little bit. they're human after all. since 2005 I think they've incorporated click tracks in all their live stuff. download fest 05 is still without and it's noticeable.
This is why Tomas Haake is the best drummer ever!
Absolute machine
Morgan Agren wants to have a word with you.
For sure in metal
@@Yggdra666 Hahaha yes. They should have a drum battle. They are friends so it could totally happen! But they don't need to wins or prove anything to me - just as long as they play. They are both my drum idols. Their drumming has had so much impact, influence and inspiration on me. After being that guy that never shuts up about them to every other musician I know and meet - now they are finally getting the recognition and place in the drumming word as two greats that just took shit to a whole new level and made us all better for it.
@@andys3035
Mario Duplantier
Bro if dimebag was still alive him and this guy would literally make the best band ever
look at the guitarists face, this it what i love about meshuggah, they feel their music.
the intro : not sure many ppl know haake can do stuff like that.
I believe he can do most things with a drum kit.
@zensunni I'm dying here 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah, it was like real pro drum solo that the greats would do
@hudson Dany Carey is one the most overrated drummers ever.
@hudson Have been for 25 years mate. Check out Tomas Lang or Gavin Harrison. They own Danny Carey. In all aspects.
4:54 that's jazz, babyyyyy!
on a normal day I would feel inspired. after this, I believe I will set my ''what i thought was a talent'' to rest. I GIVE UP.
rhythm & bass has always been my favorite part of music, it speaks to the core of my spirit being! my heart beats to the rhythm of tomas haake's drumming. thank you for the upload
that drum sound is just perfection !
Filmed with a gameboy camera, uploaded with a Razr flipphone.
Amazing work is what those two did on The violent sleep of reason.
this is just so awesome.
eu volto quase toda semana pra ouvir esse som de caixa
Fun fact: the guys in Meshuggah first came together to form a jazz-band, however their heavy approached changed then to. Metal-fusion band. They kept the Jazz concept for the guitar solos.
Daniel Lindholm Specifically Alan Holdsworth guitar solos in Thordendale's case.
+Daniel Lindholm Don't know if they're first thing was to do jazz, but they are all fusion players for sure, and they list their influences on Destroy Erase Improve. Dick (bassist) came from a fusion band of some kind. You could argue that progressive metal is linked to jazz through fusion, but it's all American music anyway. I mean...just about all Metal/Hard Rock, etc is linked to jazz in many ways.
Their initial setup was jazz, but they were experimenting with metal and they came up with this cool crossover. Not american in anyway.. they're swedish.
+Daniel Lindholm - their first album was progressive heavy metal, with changing meters - Contradictions Collapse. Progressive Metal is 100% related to jazz. The music that they play now is related to jazz, even though it's still progressive metal. They (the members of the band) are Swedish sure, but without American music, Meshuggah would not exist. Get the album "Destroy Erase Improve and look at their influences...better yet I will list some, since I find myself constantly telling people about their influences.
+Daniel Lindholm Okay, dig this - the first influence that they list is Earth Wind and Fire. 100% American. Next few influences are Steely Dan, Slayer (Reign in Blood), Chet Baker, Queensryche, and Pink Floyd. All American bands. They even list American movies like Starwars, Forest Gump, and so forth. There may be bands today that might sound unique to their country, but you can't separate American music from Meshuggah's sound in any way. Jens sings in English. All metal is related to American music, and more specifically jazz. Once the lead guitarist starts playing a solo of any kind, or if the riffs have any blues in them whatsoever, that's your indication. It sounds grossly oversimplified, but think that through. Metallica (one of Meshuggah's influences) is also related to jazz fusion by way of the blues. All this being said, I would never call Meshuggah or Metallica/Anthrax/Slayer/Primus/Metalchurch, etc (all influences on Meshuggah's music) jazz. I would call it either "metal" or "heavy metal" or progressive music. What you're saying has some merit, but Meshuggah started as a metal band.
Wow even when he solos he is right up there with the great drummers
That sick rythm
He generates so much power but with so much finesse... Its like someone in the audience said, "Hey can you guys fiddle around a little." And, since it was said as a statement they just nodded in agreement and played most of their favorite licks.
I love so much when they play stuff from 33 album. Sooooooo goooooodd
This is the foundation of any band in this genre. If you cant play with just your bass player, you need to rethink your approach. VERY awesome.
4:26 10 years later...
world class musicians
tightest d&b combo in rock?
STUNNING drum kit 😍
this gives me a huge smile i love this
lost my shit at Rational Gaze
and rightly so.
Have you found it yet?
SparzanzaHeader
this made me laugh so fucking hard.
The entire band is the rhythm section.
Its amazing record, cool sound,im feel treat thank you!
he's a legit beast.
@brandon isaac
04:26 In death is life -
04:53 the medium part of In death is death.
(Holy fuck, they played it speed up, but they are incredible!)
I guess when there's no vocalist you can play it as fast as you like
Just so good , love this album , love this band .
this guy knows how to keep you at the edge of your seat!
Only one brand makes their toms sound so good - Sonor. Only fookin one...
electrizer yeah man, haake, danny carey and gavin harrison, best sounding drums
Sonar and high-end Gretsch. You get the most ridiculous sounds from those kits.
Even in his solos he refuses to hit the snare and the bass at the same time lol.
+Dimrain13 1min13
+Dimrain13 typically hitting the snare and the kick simultaneously sounds like poo poo lol
I know, but still lol
Death Culture Metal Production does it best... Best learn today! lol but really you can make it cut through the mix with the Steven Slate drum VST... But hey otherwise that would be 100% true.
WillHerndon clockworks?
I wish I could get those isolated bass tracks.. so juicy to learn
kit sounds phenomenal!!!!!!!!!
The break 2:13 sounds amazing. I thinlk it's the brief silence after that which sounds so full of tension... love it
That Organic Shadow's bassline its insanely epic
One of the most DANGEROUSLY good rhythm sections in all of metal right here!
The way of play the Fills of Thomas always was unique.
He’s mentioned that he never took drum lessons, which is absolutely incredible to me as he seems well disciplined and has great ergonomics to his playing ….that is.. if he wasn’t fucking with the interviewer but didn’t seem like it
Tomas eres Genial!
The tone on that bass
Tight and precise.
I want Meshuggah to release a Jazz Fusion album. That would be impressive.
Destroy Erase Improve gets pretty fusiony tbh
His drum solo was gorgeous
That snare hits so loud that the back of my fucking eyeballs hurt
Sir Tomas Haake killing it
Love that bass sound
first time I see Tomas Haake playing a "traditional" drum solo
Sonor drums all the way, artist bronze snare. What a set !
He actually tunes up, not down. Bb,F,A#,D#,G#. So it aint low at all...
Yeah its a common misconception
I'm not getting tired of watching this D:
Oh man, that's a lot of notes and groove to learn.
Awesome! Thanks for the upload!
The thing I love the most from this comment section is that there are many of us that come from time to time to post how awesome something is or to add something. Mindblowing as like the first time that I listened to this. You understand and appreciate a lot of things. Timeless.
Why haven't more people seen this man. And people wonder why he can groove so hard!!!
fucking warwick dolphins rock like a baus!
True drum and bass music.
02:16. Nothing left to be said.
This is dope. Thx for uploading
Haake FTW
Yes....EVER!!! kicks total ass.
HE PLAYS LIKE A JAZZ DRUMMER MAN !!!!!!!!
thnks.
Where can I find the full version of this? It's amazing.
I almost prefer just listening to them alone without the rest of the band.
*In Bill Lumbergh's voice* Yeah... if we could fire Jens Kidman... That'd be great.
@@xXxThelegend27xXx fackoff. Jens is irreplaceable and unremovable
@@chadmarx7718 He wrote Ritual and Behind the Sun, two of my favorite songs. They should give him more opportunities to make music.
@@chadmarx7718 one could say he's.... immutable
@@cyrus7822 that’s what I call a pun
thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you
That bass sound!
I had no idea Tomas could play like that
God his drums sound spot on .
Wonderful! It should be; "Haake and Lövgren from Meshuggah, clinic (the not long enough version)"