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Tomas Haake visiting Morgan Ågren [drumtalk special]
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- čas přidán 19. 01. 2016
- While on a trip through Sweden I teamed up with Meshuggah's Tomas Haake to pay Morgan Ågren a visit at his place. After dinner Morgan showed us his studio and his uncommon drum setup.
thanks to Morgan for the subtitles!!!
![Tomas Haake (Meshuggah) - drumtalk [episode 50]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ba2X4r12lv4/mqdefault.jpg)
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To call them humble would be a vast understatement. Two of our greatest drummers in one room and they're acting like one of their mum's is gonna come in and tell them to get ready for bed.
I still cant forget that insane Morgan Ågren's performance with Fredrik from Meshuggah. Never heard anything like this. Insanly talented drummer.
Forgive me, this has nothing to do with your comment but what's you profile picture from?
Pygmy Behemoth It's Mia from Evil Dead 2013. Awesome horror movie. Gory and violent
But can it top Evil Dead 2? I’ll check it out! Thanks :)
@@pygmybehemoth3988 It's like Evil Dead but more serious. No comedy stuff. Just horror and gore.
Did anybody else get this unexplainable happy feeling while watching this video? :-)
yes. and right before practice too. good vibes are good :)
the vibe of making this passion our fucking lives no matter the circumstance
welcome to Finland, WTF
Like back in the early 2000s when footage was rare this would be fefe material lmao
It was a nice friendly visit.
Wild that the same small city in Sweden gave us these two masters at the same time.
Strictly speaking, Tomas is not from Umea, but from a little town that is very close geographically, nevertheless. Jens Kidman and Fredrik from Meshuggah, and also Mats Öberg (who is a musical GOD) are, tho. Aliens did musical experiments with people there.
Proud to be from Umeå myself, but unfortunately not even close to have these guy's talents.
@@YanusDV Thomas is from an even smaller city that is famous for producing an obscene amount of NHL players, such as Peter Forsberg, Marcus Näslund, the Sedin twins and many more.
Umeå can boast of having some of the most well-respected bands in the underground scene though. Apart from Meshuggah, both Cult of Luna and Refused are from Umeå.
As well as Refused
@@YanusDV Örnsköldsvik is the smaller city. 1h drive south from umeå. i'm from Örnsköldsvik
Morgan and Tomas are two virtuous acoustic and rhythmic painters. One very dark, heavy and with sharp edges, precise geometry the other more colorful with lots of wavy figures and a lot of blending and merging, yet still with a very strong punch. But what i actually wanted to say: this cymbal collection is off the charts! :D I bet 20% of the room is just cymbals with all kinds of tones and volumes. xD
Sebastian Schulz The entirety of Tomas' world is but one small village in Morgan's.
Just Two Gods having a convo, and us being illumined
Glad Magma was mentioned. Christian Vander doesn't come up often enough in "greatest drummers" conversations. The guy is a beast.
Christian Vander is a genius
@@YanusDVI totally wanted Christian in drumtalk but the language barrier was the problem -- I don't speak French well enough for a drumtalk episode and his English isn't that good either. such a pity! I was backstage with Magma and trying to get a shooting date but it wasn't meant to be....
2 of the greatest drummers around!!
And born on the same date - 13/07:)
@@Petar_Nikolov no kidding!? The same year???
Javier Herrera Morgan is born 1967 (13-th of July), Tomas is born 1971 (13-th of July)...
I like Agren's creative sense better than Haake's, but I can't live without Haake's music. Both of these guys are super heavy! Love this!
Jesus that’s so much drumming talent in one tiny room
Love this! It makes me feel more like these amazing drummers are just human with houses and neighbours just like us mere mortals!
It was a true honor for me to record (for my solo album Defragmentism Project) with Morgan and my brother in that very room.
Where can I check it out??
I am plainly happy to see these guys talking, that is all
These incredible DRUMMERS and incredible persons are born at the same date - 13-th of july!!!
Wtf!?
713...huh. All odd numbers
two of my favorite drummers! great
Andres Castellanos Agree. And we have; Marco Minnemann, the list could be very long :-)
The last Frank Zappa tour in 1988 in Stockholm Mats and Morgan played 3 songs with Zappa on stage and i was there.
Lucky!!!
My two swedish drumming heroes, talking about Magma. Doesn't get any better than that!! ...also 8:05 ..."im just not nerd-y about it, he's nerdy about it"
Of course Tomas drives a Volvo
I thinked it was saab
@@SomeRandomPerson163 1 year late but this is extremely important: it was a Volvo 100%.
Volvo S60 T5 🔥
Pretty sure that was an S80
@@ggff5580 S80 T6 ;-)
Morgan Ågren Is just amazing - and always comes across as a person you would have great pleasure meeting. I would so much like to see him preform live.
He's got a print of Alex Grey's 'Cosmic Christ' painting. Awesome!
These two are so good and powerful and thoughtful players and they are so succinct and humble, awed, perhaps, at each other's craft?
That magma gig was amazing! And so was mats/morgan duo! MAAAAAAAAAAGMAAA
❤this ia heaven to watch❤
Two incredible talents... just being themselves. What a treat!
still love both musicians!!
"Is the ass heat good enough for you, Sir?" Lol! I'm going to start asking people that, once they enter our vehicle, during snowfall.
8:20 Love the Mona Lisa Zappa in the back
Morgan Ågren has played with Frank Zappa.
when tomas sat at the kit i thought those drums sound shit how can anyone play on that but then when morgan got behind it the thing came alive and sounded lovely
It catuslly sounded shitty too when Morgan played em ahahahah
Two legends drum talking, love it!
Two of the top ten drummers in the world.
OMG! What a pleasant surprise to see Magma on this video.
I know Morgan from Kaipa which are a brilliant band. I retroactively found out he was the drummer in 'Special Defects'.
I could even watch you guys while you have breakfast ... :)
2 of my absolute favorites under one roof! Love this!!!
i cry seeing this
my gear, too
is in pieces... i love this gift of ours so
two 'Gods of drums' meet and talk about drums. .
Nothing is more than this. .
My favourite drumers🔱🔱❤️🔥🔥🔥🤘
coolest drummers out there!!
Morgan is so talented (and so talented is a complete understatement) and Tomas is at the top of my list. This vid def puts a smile on my face.
Magma! Zeuhl boss mekanik! Kobaia iss de hundin!
That guy is crazy...he always was crazy :D I hope he will get together with Fredrik again someday and record another Special Defects :)
They are working on a new Special Defects=) finally
Two of the best 'outside the box' drummers together. I couldn't ask for more... well, yes, I can. Thank you so much!
To all the professors that try to decypher and institutionalize Meshuggah's music: it's just plain old communication and training between 5 dudes that love technical and brutal stuff. One tells the other to try something out and the other will learn it until they get it right just like the other one imagined it. It's interesting that all of them love to communicate composition for any type of instrument vocally. xD I realized this over the years, when ever they communicated ideas in an interview or casual recording they started to use rhythmic, non-verbal vocals. :D
3:23 damn did he just do a single-handed string of 6tuplets without even thinking about it?
Intraterrestrial buzz roll my dude. Learn it.
Thought the same haha, mind-blowing
two legends get togheter at the drums temple. the result? awesomness and a real crazy drumtalk
Harvia perkele! To the market place!
Respect! Två helt fantastiska trummisar på liten yta. Awesome!
3:54 hip hop groove. Yes!
title should be "2 absolute beasts in a room with a drum set"
such a unique sound with those toms and that thunderous bass drum!
Thank you sooo much! This an amazing upload as always! =D
+Samir Pashayev thanks mate!
Trout mask replica and Magma. Got to love Morgan! Hhai!
This little dog is pure awesomeness!
Billie rules!!
What's weird about this, is that a black hole didn't occur when these giants met.
He plays a better drum roll with one hand then I can with two 3:22
Seriously. That small detail, its amazing.
Two of my favourite drummer with bill bruford
Thank you for the PTSD reminder with the video opening of the symbol that shall never be muted, ever.
im oddly concerned that morgan doesn't have double glass windows and his neighbor will get mad at him for being loud
Haha, that concern is one of the most beautiful things I've come across in a long time!
Man Tomas has no trace of Swenglish when he switches between eng and swe. Fucking impressive!
9:40 Trout Mask Replica by Captain Beefheart got on the wall... heavy
God, it drives me crazy how humble they always are. And I know that they are just being honest, and it makes me even madder. We know this stuff seems "normal" to you, but there is not a single metal band on earth that even comes close to Meshuggah in terms of complexity and virtuosity, while still being groovy and melodically pleasing. You're not "professors" Tomas, you're "gods". You might not necessarily be calculating everything, but what you put out is genius, and that's what matters.
Cough*Car Bomb*Cough
Yes Haake says "I've heard so many weird things about...the band...with professors..."
People just refuse to listen to what the band has to say about their music, especially in acadamia. People refuse to want to count to 4.
+holygroove2 he says "we're professors, I mean c'mon..." his point was, that some folks claim that he and his bandmates are professors in music theory... which is of course utter nonsense. Thanks for your comment!
+drumtalk sure, thank you for your inspirational videos!
sheppfun Yes.
@sheppfun They slightly oversimplify it though. Sure it's in the 4/4 grid but the "odd phrasings" is used more for polyrythms, but when it overlaps the 4/4 bar it's a polymeter. Sure the 4/4 is dominant but essentially it's usually 2 time signatures being blended and made to groove.
Haake: "Yeah I've heard soo many weird things about us and the band; we're 'professors' (of instruments), I mean c'mon..." Hehe. They just think on another level.
Isn't it amazing that people have written dissertations on their music though, all fascinating to me to read (and vids).
While many others find them "boring" - Meshuggah's music is definitely not for everyone, even for metalheads. But I like that, we fans tend to listen closer to those that are different, and I get why people write about them and analyze their music, its soo much more than just listening a few times or chocking them up to just a djent or groove metal band.
Thank you for the video :).
thank you for your comment :)
Sources? I mean, can you produce a link to one of the dissertation papers? What hypothesis could these alleged dissertations be based on, I have to ask?
drumtalk -
Thank you for the awesome episodes to enjoy :).
es.scribd.com/doc/6375990/Re-casting-Metal-Rhythm-and-Meter-in-the-Music-of-Meshuggah
thanks for all the info on the professors from sweden :-)
I don't recall that I ever deleted a comment, even the really stupid ones -- I don't like censorship, so as long as there are no really hostile "no go area" comments I stick to not touching anyone's opinion
Idk how many times I've watched this video, yet I've just realized about the Zappa Mona Lisa at 8:07
this was lovley, a youtube golden nugget:)
nice, god talking with god
Dude if anti-rhythm personified, aka Satan, had walked in, he/she would've been in chaos hell, aka order...🤔🤔🤔😧😲😬😵
Take your vitamin D folks! Haake says so..
On how powerful that message is today!
oh shoot, why can't i like this video twice, lol
THE BIG , TOMAS HAAKE , THE GREAT MONSTER DRUMMER " .
Magma....hmm so that's where they got Dancers' intro from :)
Two famous Swedish hackers, together!
09:27 alex grey sketch artwork (tool) it is nice :=)
It looks like a poster of Cosmic Christ.
The fact THE morgan agren has to liase and ask his neighbour just like i do is somewhat reassuring...
Spitzen Video! Morgan Agren ist bei uns ja leider eher unbekannt! Danke für die Einblicke. LG, Jürgen
Norrlands finest:) cred
that zappa mona Lisa killed me
lol like listening to the actors on 13th Warrior Haake and Morgan even look like them
So I guess when you watch this like a 100 times you don't need the subtitles anymore...
@@drumtalkofficial lol Bandaras did a pretty good job of picking it up..without subtitles but Haake does look like the guy swinging the mallet the guy with the ponytail and Morgan looks like Dennis Storhoi
I don't believe for a second that he stops playing at 7pm every night.
two titans
If Elliot Coleman from Car Bomb were there, it would be like the holy trinity 🤘
Alden Legge holy fuck. Time would probably stop
haake is a super chill guy for making some of the angriest music in the world
Most metal musicians are.
It's that obzenity...
I like Cosmic Christ painting of Alex Grey that Morgan has on his wall. tomas notices at 9:11
THERAMMSTEINFAN490 alex grey lives 15 minutes away but i keep putting off a visit.
There can be only one...
7:52 zappa monalisa. jajaj the best . drums . morgan fuck yeah .
did i just hear haake play 4/4 ??????? WTF
morgan, thomas and peter wildoer top 3 drummers in sweden.
Haha, typiskt svenskt! Så jädra kallt att de måste sitta i ytterjackorna och spela drumsen, inge jädra Tommy Lee här inte..
Hahahaha!
Male gioconda 8:18, great video.
Wow
3:11 Slow Scorch by Gruntruck
i didnt know tomas haake could play non-polyrhythmic beats
is this the guy that called him about the music video
Is that an Alex Grey artwork piece framed? Towards the end of the video.
Cosmic Christ poster.
VOLVO 🤘
I don't know Morgan, with what bands or projects he plays with?
+Ximon Trespalacios He primarily plays with his friend Mats in their project Mats & Morgan, mostly jazzy and synth driven jams. He was also discovered by Frank Zappa and played for him. He's been doing a bunch of different side projects too. I'd rank him with Gavin Harrison as best contemporary drummers.
Type in Mats/Morgan or Trum (my spelling may be off) in CZcams and prepare to have your mind blown
He also plays in Kaipa, the best prog rock band ever! Apart from Genesis, that is.
He also played drums with on Special Defects with Fredrik Thordendal of Meshuggah. Also recently played on Empath (?) with Devin Townsend.
did you notice??????, they stop to speak in english and start to speak in a robotdrumcyborglenguaje that only they can understand......... and the guy who translate the video
god damn, that house is already haunted by the ghost named Morgan Agren, now who brought another ghost into the house? That house is fucking haunted and cannot be lived by anyone else now.
2007 Volvo s60 squad!
he looks like big lebowski
The dude 😂 he needs a White Russian to sip on man
In a small corner of the globe magic is brought to life and Mickeys Cursive D has nothing to do with it! If u were bad in a past life is fly on the wall an option?
D Man!!!