Native landscape screen, larger battery life (compared to win mini, win 4), oculink port, and ideal for laying on the sofa or bed. Checks all my boxes.
The one thing for me that the Win Max 2 doesn't have and I think it really needs, is a high refresh rate screen. Everything else about it is spot on for me. I love the large screen, useable laptop features, and overall performance of the device. I can play it comfortably in bed by resting it on my stomach and the height of the device puts it at a comfortable viewing angle. And for how small it is compared to a 14" laptop it's got alot of ports. I've used mine to render 3d print models and the card slots on the side are just awesome.
Hi great video. I have the winmax2 2023. Mine is the 64gb version with 2tb. I have the 2230 ssd as well and also an extra 1tb with a micro sd card. This gives a total of 5tb. In my opinion this is the best handheld pc for gaming available.
I have the GPD Win Max 2 2023, and the GPD G1 egpu, and i absolutely LOVE IT. I modded the case to attach heatpipe directly connectd to heatpipes coming from CPU, and connected the new heatpipe to a thin heatsink to the bottom of the case. It lowered my max Temps from 93 down to max of 82 that ive seen so far. I even love it far more than using my far more powerful Alienware x15 R2 with RTX 4080 egpu via Razer Core X Chroma.
I got this back last year around June. Its been great. I've been using it as a daily driver as a computer rather than for portable gaming. Playing games on it via monitor still works pretty well. I'm surprised how well Doom 2016 runs.
the thing with the win max 2 is its a jack of all trades, master of none, I've had pretty much all worthwhile handhelds but only kept the win max 2 and win mini, you can just do more with a win max 2 - gaming, productivity, better then any other handheld for just watching videos to. I'll say that grips do make handheld gaming on it WAY more comfortable
Yeah I definitely can appreciate the versatility of the win max 2. It's growing on me and I have grips on the way. Because of the work I do it can't replace my actual laptop, but I could see this being the only device someone would need to take.
This has been my daily driver since launch. I dock it with the G1 and a couple of monitors when at my desk and the performance is perfect for my needs. I tend to focus mostly on emulation and indie titles, which work very well docked or undocked. With the G1, I can play Cyberpunk, Elden Ring, God of War, and similar titles at 1080p/60 with high settings. When traveling for work, the battery holds up well during all-day meeting sessions running productivity apps. I have large hands, so the size is excellent for mobile gaming, and I love the 10" screen. Many other devices feel small and cramped to me.
I have had the og deck, aok a1, ally, win 4, and the mini. I hate large devices, but hated the form factor of the win4. screen was too small and keyboard and mouse useless. The mini is perfect, it makes using windows just as easy as using a laptop. I too ended up preferring the grips. Even with the grips it is ultra compact and easy to throw in a small backpack pocket.
The win mini with the steam deck screen would be the perfect device. I still love the win mini the best. I go between the win mini and the deck for my preferred device
They could not add controller at all, instead add some features like 120+HZ or display twist or both and something else. The 4G module doesn't really needed because everybody has 4G in a pocket, but additional SSD expansion would be a nice feature especially with multiboot.
I got the GPD Max 2 in October and didn't really get to use it much, it came with various issues (screen and random restarts) and I had to pay $200 shipping/insurance to rma it. Now they've had it over a month and i'm just waiting for it to be repaired and sent back to me. It's a great form factor for me, big beautiful screen and a keyboard attached for when you need it. If they ever send it back to me fixed it will be my favorite device. In the meantime I love using the steam deck, and I regret buying the rog ally because its uncomfortable. I think i'm done buying devices that aren't clamshell though. If GPD hadn't sent me a broken device I'd have ordered another one for my husbands birthday. I hope yours is ok, i'm just very unlucky lol.
The win mini provides the core compute essentials. The Oculink port really sets it up for extreme peripheral support. The way I see it, I can finally carry my workstation in 👏🏿 my 👏🏿 pocket! 👏🏿 and plug it into any devices I need to enhance the input, display, or compute resources as needed.
People really sleep on the win max 2. I can play all my games at a consistent 60 fps and I can get my work done. This is hands down the best of both worlds
Win Max 2 is the goated all around device if you want a device that can do it all. It isn't the best at anything but does everything well enough, a jack of all trades device. If I was looking for something that can replace my desktop/laptop/gaming consoles/gaming handhelds, I would look at getting a Win Max 2 and an eGPU setup to pair it with. The Win Mini is a close second but the trade off of sacrificing a surprisingly good keyboard for a bit more portability isn't worth it imo. Plus the Win Mini not having as much storage options and ports also feels like a major compromise
Its too much like a laptop too me in that i would just rather carry a g14 if i was going to carry the win max 2. Mini wins easy for me, but if you dont need the power of the g14 the max is fairly portable for a laptop.
@@creaturecore13 if you're someone that doesn't like to carry around multiple devices or have to charge multiple devices, I think the Win Max 2 would be perfect.
@@FS-zt6tm The mini does everything i need as is and is better at gaming given its size. I am not writing long emails to need the better keyboard of the max2. When i get to a destination i usually just dock the mini making the smaller screen not a big deal for media consumption. But it depends if gaming or if writing emails reports is your main priority.
@@creaturecore13 yea, it is perfect for your use case. But for a programmer like me that needs a keyboard, I don't think the Mini would be an ideal fit for my use case. Also, I like the battery life on the Win Max 2. It can last me a whole day of work without having to charge it.
I'd really like this as a productivity laptop with a bit of gaming occasionally (have an Ally). If only was allowed to select as my corp laptop. 2024 model looks nice but if they do a Strix one in 2025 then I can see myself getting it for conferences/flights/trains.
I had the 6800u versions of the Win Max 2 and Win 4. Unfortunately, didn't like either for different reasons. The Win 4 was extremely uncomfortable as there's barely any grip and it's thick. The buttons were very small and the analog sticks were interfering with my ability to hit any of the face buttons. The Win Max 2 bothers me because I actually like the device for everything except gaming. I couldn't hold it for very long and the recessed analog sticks were a no go. It did have a great d-pad despite it being small. I think I could have made it work if I was committed to using an external controller. If I was someone who traveled a lot, I could see the Win Max 2 being the ultimate portable option. Set it up on a plane or your hotel room and you have a great setup.
All equally little trust. I buy these things not expecting much support, and if any is given, it’s a pleasant surprise. But if I had to give one of the lowest rating, it would probably be Ayaneo because they release 100 devices per year
Definitely do not buy this if you are just looking for a handheld. This thing is great if you're looking for a hybrid device specifically, or if you just want a small, powerful laptop. You mentioned how enormous this is as a handheld, but I think it's a mistake to not mention how tiny it is as a laptop. My WM2 is, simultaneously, a laptop, a handheld, and a mini-PC, since it uniquely has enough IO to not need any kind of dock or external accessories to use it in that manner. And as a laptop, it's uniquely small enough to fit on a lap desk on my couch while still having room for a mouse. Suddenly, I can portably play FPS games the way I truly prefer to play them: with a mouse and keyboard!
She says not to worry about new console msi claw but I am shocked she just bought one now I'm jealous her gaming handheld device is more powerful than mine Ally and hers is the Claw
had mini legion go ally steamdeck now win max 2 i might say its my top 1 weird its the most ergonomic of all maybe because i always play on bed propped to my tummy i play almost 3 to 6 hrs a day lying down sold all my handheld decided ill save doing so now its my netflix machine and ps3 machine
I think it's depends on your usecase of device. Win mini has hall effect sticks, better and bigger display, better keyboard, weights a bit less than win 4.
@@BarelyAverageDude I need battery life to be way better, and of course I want the performance per watt to be way better. Hopefully they wait for Zen 5 so it can be future proof
I sold my steam deck and just got me a legion go and it's perfect but I'm sorry I think gpd looks stupid you either a laptop or a handheld which one is it
1:39 What's wrong with the "laptop devices"? They're so much better in every way. More versatile (keyboard, trackpad). More ergonomic (screen is raised so you don't have to strain your neck looking down). Bigger screen. Usually thinner (because the surface area is larger).
I dont like win max 2 at all🤬. Heavy, uncomfortable mini laptop (not handheld at all). I think win mini is far better - small, tiny, perfect for outdoor usage, gaming and lightweight work. Also, win max 2 is hard to sell (at least, at place where I live) - not many people understand this formfactor (you can buy a decent laptop for the price of win max) Im sure, win mini also better in that therein)
I have the win max 2 and I'm enjoying it. I also never thought I would purchase a laptop handheld. But thr battery is decent. The weight is not that noticeable if playing on the bed or with a controller. It's a great device. And super fast and works great as a laptop.
Native landscape screen, larger battery life (compared to win mini, win 4), oculink port, and ideal for laying on the sofa or bed. Checks all my boxes.
The one thing for me that the Win Max 2 doesn't have and I think it really needs, is a high refresh rate screen. Everything else about it is spot on for me. I love the large screen, useable laptop features, and overall performance of the device. I can play it comfortably in bed by resting it on my stomach and the height of the device puts it at a comfortable viewing angle. And for how small it is compared to a 14" laptop it's got alot of ports. I've used mine to render 3d print models and the card slots on the side are just awesome.
高リフレッシュレートは低遅延にも繋がって、快適なプレイができるようになりますもんね。
Hi great video. I have the winmax2 2023. Mine is the 64gb version with 2tb. I have the 2230 ssd as well and also an extra 1tb with a micro sd card. This gives a total of 5tb. In my opinion this is the best handheld pc for gaming available.
I have the GPD Win Max 2 2023, and the GPD G1 egpu, and i absolutely LOVE IT.
I modded the case to attach heatpipe directly connectd to heatpipes coming from CPU, and connected the new heatpipe to a thin heatsink to the bottom of the case. It lowered my max Temps from 93 down to max of 82 that ive seen so far.
I even love it far more than using my far more powerful Alienware x15 R2 with RTX 4080 egpu via Razer Core X Chroma.
It's great to hear a perspective of this device from someone who hasn't used something like this before. Thanks for the video!
Yeah it’s gonna take some getting used to, but I’m going to give it an honest try 😅
I don’t think I’ll ever like it but I may grow to appreciate it.
The Win Max 2, is the laptop you buy when you love to game. But, you also have to be all professional and shyte at times. No RGBleh. Just clean style.
I got this back last year around June. Its been great. I've been using it as a daily driver as a computer rather than for portable gaming. Playing games on it via monitor still works pretty well. I'm surprised how well Doom 2016 runs.
Can he handle big data of excel?
This thing is beautiful. Perfect device. I had an Eeepc back in the day and I fell in love with the form factor.
There’s nothing like it.
the thing with the win max 2 is its a jack of all trades, master of none, I've had pretty much all worthwhile handhelds but only kept the win max 2 and win mini, you can just do more with a win max 2 - gaming, productivity, better then any other handheld for just watching videos to.
I'll say that grips do make handheld gaming on it WAY more comfortable
Yeah I definitely can appreciate the versatility of the win max 2. It's growing on me and I have grips on the way. Because of the work I do it can't replace my actual laptop, but I could see this being the only device someone would need to take.
This has been my daily driver since launch. I dock it with the G1 and a couple of monitors when at my desk and the performance is perfect for my needs. I tend to focus mostly on emulation and indie titles, which work very well docked or undocked. With the G1, I can play Cyberpunk, Elden Ring, God of War, and similar titles at 1080p/60 with high settings. When traveling for work, the battery holds up well during all-day meeting sessions running productivity apps. I have large hands, so the size is excellent for mobile gaming, and I love the 10" screen. Many other devices feel small and cramped to me.
Win Max 2 definitely grew on me. I ordered the X1 to join the 10in gang. Everything else IS small.
I have had the og deck, aok a1, ally, win 4, and the mini. I hate large devices, but hated the form factor of the win4. screen was too small and keyboard and mouse useless. The mini is perfect, it makes using windows just as easy as using a laptop. I too ended up preferring the grips. Even with the grips it is ultra compact and easy to throw in a small backpack pocket.
the mini is king
The win mini with the steam deck screen would be the perfect device. I still love the win mini the best. I go between the win mini and the deck for my preferred device
Yeah, for indie/less demanding games the Deck OLED is unmatched.
They could not add controller at all, instead add some features like 120+HZ or display twist or both and something else.
The 4G module doesn't really needed because everybody has 4G in a pocket, but additional SSD expansion would be a nice feature especially with multiboot.
I got the GPD Max 2 in October and didn't really get to use it much, it came with various issues (screen and random restarts) and I had to pay $200 shipping/insurance to rma it. Now they've had it over a month and i'm just waiting for it to be repaired and sent back to me. It's a great form factor for me, big beautiful screen and a keyboard attached for when you need it. If they ever send it back to me fixed it will be my favorite device. In the meantime I love using the steam deck, and I regret buying the rog ally because its uncomfortable. I think i'm done buying devices that aren't clamshell though. If GPD hadn't sent me a broken device I'd have ordered another one for my husbands birthday. I hope yours is ok, i'm just very unlucky lol.
The win mini provides the core compute essentials. The Oculink port really sets it up for extreme peripheral support. The way I see it, I can finally carry my workstation in 👏🏿 my 👏🏿 pocket! 👏🏿 and plug it into any devices I need to enhance the input, display, or compute resources as needed.
exactly
People really sleep on the win max 2. I can play all my games at a consistent 60 fps and I can get my work done. This is hands down the best of both worlds
The max 2 is great but I prefer my mini. Pocketable and I can just carry a folding keyboard and my xreal glasses if I want the desktop experience.
Win Max 2 is the goated all around device if you want a device that can do it all. It isn't the best at anything but does everything well enough, a jack of all trades device. If I was looking for something that can replace my desktop/laptop/gaming consoles/gaming handhelds, I would look at getting a Win Max 2 and an eGPU setup to pair it with. The Win Mini is a close second but the trade off of sacrificing a surprisingly good keyboard for a bit more portability isn't worth it imo. Plus the Win Mini not having as much storage options and ports also feels like a major compromise
Its too much like a laptop too me in that i would just rather carry a g14 if i was going to carry the win max 2. Mini wins easy for me, but if you dont need the power of the g14 the max is fairly portable for a laptop.
@@creaturecore13 if you're someone that doesn't like to carry around multiple devices or have to charge multiple devices, I think the Win Max 2 would be perfect.
@@FS-zt6tm The mini does everything i need as is and is better at gaming given its size. I am not writing long emails to need the better keyboard of the max2. When i get to a destination i usually just dock the mini making the smaller screen not a big deal for media consumption. But it depends if gaming or if writing emails reports is your main priority.
@@creaturecore13 yea, it is perfect for your use case. But for a programmer like me that needs a keyboard, I don't think the Mini would be an ideal fit for my use case. Also, I like the battery life on the Win Max 2. It can last me a whole day of work without having to charge it.
@@FS-zt6tm no you would hate the mini's keyboard for actual work
I'd really like this as a productivity laptop with a bit of gaming occasionally (have an Ally). If only was allowed to select as my corp laptop. 2024 model looks nice but if they do a Strix one in 2025 then I can see myself getting it for conferences/flights/trains.
That’s not a bad plan 👍🏽
The Legion still looks ginormous 😂
Idk why the legion go just stands out the most out of all the devices on the table. I really appreciate what Lenovo has done for consumers.
It stands out because it doesn’t stand out. It’s a sleeper build 😅👍🏽
Cause it's the best......by far
How would you say this would feel for someone who thought the Wii U Gamepad was comfortable despite how big it was?
Wii U feels better 😅
I had the 6800u versions of the Win Max 2 and Win 4. Unfortunately, didn't like either for different reasons. The Win 4 was extremely uncomfortable as there's barely any grip and it's thick. The buttons were very small and the analog sticks were interfering with my ability to hit any of the face buttons.
The Win Max 2 bothers me because I actually like the device for everything except gaming. I couldn't hold it for very long and the recessed analog sticks were a no go. It did have a great d-pad despite it being small. I think I could have made it work if I was committed to using an external controller. If I was someone who traveled a lot, I could see the Win Max 2 being the ultimate portable option. Set it up on a plane or your hotel room and you have a great setup.
Try the gpd win mini it's perfect KING
skull&co switch thumbgrips fit perfectly on the thumbsticks and make the recessed sticks a lot more bearable
GPD Win Max 2 - "Back to the 00s"
If you are not about gaming, it's better to buy LG Gram 14 with the same weight but 14" screen. But this is a nice toy :)
Which Chinese brand would you trust most GPD, Ayaneo or Onex?
All equally little trust.
I buy these things not expecting much support, and if any is given, it’s a pleasant surprise.
But if I had to give one of the lowest rating, it would probably be Ayaneo because they release 100 devices per year
Definitely do not buy this if you are just looking for a handheld. This thing is great if you're looking for a hybrid device specifically, or if you just want a small, powerful laptop. You mentioned how enormous this is as a handheld, but I think it's a mistake to not mention how tiny it is as a laptop. My WM2 is, simultaneously, a laptop, a handheld, and a mini-PC, since it uniquely has enough IO to not need any kind of dock or external accessories to use it in that manner. And as a laptop, it's uniquely small enough to fit on a lap desk on my couch while still having room for a mouse. Suddenly, I can portably play FPS games the way I truly prefer to play them: with a mouse and keyboard!
I actually like it as a handheld now. 😅🤷🏽♂️
@BarelyAverageDude I do too...but its full potential isn't realized if it's just a handheld.
@@dgevertI totally agree
@BareAverageDude
You mentioned doing a video showing the grip you ordered for the max 2. But you didn't update us on that yet
I didn’t really like it.
when i imagine a handheld device, none of those look appealing to me, they are MASSIVE
That’s the beauty of handhelds; there’s an option at every size. We have 5,6,7,8,9 and 10in devices, pick the best one for you 👍🏽
I have got the max 2 but how do you guys game on it? Doesn't it get hot in your in your grip? Why isn't anyone mentioning that?
It doesn’t get very hot in my experience. You may want to adjust the fan curve. Mine doesn’t even go over 70° at 30w TDP
She says not to worry about new console msi claw but I am shocked she just bought one now I'm jealous her gaming handheld device is more powerful than mine Ally and hers is the Claw
Claw isn’t much more powerful, just higher peak wattage
Claw is considered worst than the go and oled
If you have access to an oculink egpu with a 4090 that would be awesome, I got one myself and will arrive in some weeks so I wanted to see that
I don't. Which one did you order?
Time to get yourself a gpd g1 egpu
lol right. If I didn’t have a desktop AND an eGPU already I would definitely get one.
had mini legion go ally steamdeck now win max 2 i might say its my top 1 weird its the most ergonomic of all maybe because i always play on bed propped to my tummy i play almost 3 to 6 hrs a day lying down sold all my handheld decided ill save doing so
now its my netflix machine and ps3 machine
Yeah, one major advantage is the fact that you can adjust the angle of the screen to get the best hand and viewing position. Glad you're enjoying it
Which do you reconmemd Win 4 or Win Mini? I have the Max 2
Win 4 (7840u) it’s a slightly better gaming experience imo
@@BarelyAverageDude ty for the quick response ^_^ i appericate that
I think it's depends on your usecase of device. Win mini has hall effect sticks, better and bigger display, better keyboard, weights a bit less than win 4.
@@nightpavell Win Max 2 has Hall effect sticks as well
@@BarelyAverageDude yeah, but not win 4
Hope they release the rog ally 2 soon
What improvements would make it worth it?
@@BarelyAverageDude I need battery life to be way better, and of course I want the performance per watt to be way better. Hopefully they wait for Zen 5 so it can be future proof
Ally 2.0 in 2025? @@Jerome-iwnl
I sold my steam deck and just got me a legion go and it's perfect but I'm sorry I think gpd looks stupid you either a laptop or a handheld which one is it
Both. 😅🤷🏽♂️
Playing it all wrong my guy plays great rested against belly or lap and it feels wayyyyyy better
Definitely, but I like living dangerously. 😅🤷🏽♂️
@@BarelyAverageDude I feel that why I only do fat girls picked up against the wall
1:39 What's wrong with the "laptop devices"? They're so much better in every way. More versatile (keyboard, trackpad). More ergonomic (screen is raised so you don't have to strain your neck looking down). Bigger screen. Usually thinner (because the surface area is larger).
Keep watching, I become a fan.
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I dont like win max 2 at all🤬. Heavy, uncomfortable mini laptop (not handheld at all). I think win mini is far better - small, tiny, perfect for outdoor usage, gaming and lightweight work.
Also, win max 2 is hard to sell (at least, at place where I live) - not many people understand this formfactor (you can buy a decent laptop for the price of win max)
Im sure, win mini also better in that therein)
Womp womp cry bozo
@@foreskinracer8753 ?
Can win mini handle big data of excel?
@@reggisenjang7944 I think with ease
I have the win max 2 and I'm enjoying it. I also never thought I would purchase a laptop handheld. But thr battery is decent. The weight is not that noticeable if playing on the bed or with a controller. It's a great device. And super fast and works great as a laptop.