GPD Win Mini - The Most Underrated Handheld
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- čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
- Nobody has been making PC handhelds longer than GPD. This latest entry is a tiny beast but is it worth it to you?
Buy the GPD Win Mini here: www.aliexpress.com/store/1100...
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00:00 Intro
01:42 Disclosure
02:00 Ordering
03:11 What’s in the box
03:48 Device
05:52 Controls
08:15 Grips
09:52 Screen
10:19 Audio
10:45 Performance, Heat, & Battery
11:47 Software
14:49 Final Thoughts
17:37 Outro - Hry
Yoooooo❤
Wow I found you in these comments lol
@ThePhawx please put out another follow-up video for the mini. The community would love it.
Would love to hear your thoughts on the battery life of Win Mini. As it is the total power consumption is more or less double of the TDP at almost any given TDP which makes the Mini one of the most powerhungry devices of this type. There are a few videos out there showing Mini running at 3W TDP and running a few indie-games (Last faith for example). It runs great and results in around 10h battery life but there are no comments on how it is achieved.
Translate to English: "Yoooooo❤" lol
mr Phawx was the only source where ive got some info about my gpd win 1 for years. Still have it. This thing is well suited for old games and modern indie stuff and it is very light weight. Great addition to my rog ally. Phawks is a legend!
I have a 7640, honest I would recommend it, its still powerful, similar power to a 6800u but better, its been able to run every game I've tried, including ps3 emulation
The Win Mini is a dope little device. I’m loving it so far.
8840's out mid-may
@@DavidBell823 I have my preorder in for it and should have it in a few weeks! I'm already claiming it as the best 7in handheld PC.
i really like how you cover these Deck alternatives. very candid and informed. i'm not interested in these things but your coverage is so good i follow along anyway.
No he didn't. The device went over his head... It's the smallest for that much power.. best for portably by a long shot.. he missed the mark hard
Editing these reviews are a challenge! I kinda want one of these clamshells haha.
I actually considered this over the steam deck OLED. I wanted a handheld gaming mini laptop. While it is a laptop design it doesn't seem like it can really double as a laptop considering the keyboard is so small. The GPD win max 2 is likely the better option but then it feels too big to be a handheld and at that price I'd just get a full fledge gaming laptop. I ended up getting the steam deck OLED. c’est la vie.
The keyboard is super usable while you are holding it in your hands and using only your thumbs to type, which should be familiar from old QWERTY phones. Yeah its not so usable when put on a desk and using all your fingers, but you can just carry a compact 60% keyboard and perhaps a mouse for those cases, all together shouldnt take up much more bag space than a regular laptop and you get the benefits of being able to use it when you dont have a surface to place it onto, while you always need to place a regular laptop onto something before you use it. Im using my old GPD Win 2 for programming besides gaming, and thumb typing code is really not too bad
Why are these things called "Lap"tops???
I mean, it's not the greatest way to use one, but it's not called a portable desktop. They also have attachments to make them more comfortable in your lap!😮😮😮😅😅
@@crimro85 still, you need to sit down to be able to put them in your lap, you cannot use one standing up for example... also with most laptops being furnaces, prerare for your lap to be set on fire. And finally, if the laptop does not have a trackpoint nipple (like on thinkpads) you cannot really game without a mouse, touch pad doesnt cut it. And you cannot carry a laptop in your pocket
Same. (Other than having bought any alternatives)
I've been loving my mini. I will never buy another windows handheld without a keyboard. Its a game changing feature. No more fumbling around to get windows keyboard controls to work. Until you experience a device like the mini, it is hard to put value on that. I can assure you, its awesome. Comfort for me is so wonderful as well. Makes me feel like a high end executive while gaming.
It's really impressive what they were able to do with this. I wish the controls were better but it's the kind of sacrifice you have to make in this form factor
I have the GPD micropc and have been waiting for this thing to come out for a while. I was close to bitting on a WinMax but I just love the size of the mini
How's the thumb typing for anything longer than forms or a short email? Like if I want to write longer texts while in bed or on the couch but don't want to deal with my huge 16" MBP?
@substance90 I think the GPD Win Max 2 os more suited for long fourm typing. Not the greatest for long emails.
I had a GPD Win I bought back in 2017. I played games on it, used it as a Windows streaming HDMI device to a TV, with a $20 Bluetooth handheld keyboard off Amazon, and it's still running today with zero issues. Yes smart TV's are easy, but having a Windows PC hooked up to your TV with a little controller with a full keyboard, and track pad in your hands is butter. Last year I gave it to one of my coworker's kids to have fun with, and learn the difference between a Nintendo Switch, and a PC. So I feel your GPD love. IMHO GPD were the forefathers of the handheld PC.
I had a gpd win 2! I ended up selling it as I barely used it, but it was amazing at the time.
I raided in wow on it 😂
Wow, you might be the first person I've seen to even attempt touch typing on a review video for one of these. Thank you.
Using the xreal air as gyro sounds like the most useful feature possible.. Especially if you're playing ATS or ETS2.
Then you can look around without needing to move the sticks
I'm debating between the Win Mini and the Ayaneo Flip. Looking forward to seeing some reviews and comparisons between these two consoles.
Same idk which to choose
My problem with these devices is battery life.
I'm looking forward to see what next generation will be capable of.
That's because nobody does the work Nintendo had a point making the switch 720p I thought that was a joke til I actually bought my first handheld and realized Nintendo was right what I will say is battery life can actually be great within reason on the ally I was able to play most games at 10/12tdp and 720p medium settings at 60fps doing this I was able to get games to give 3 to 4 hours of gameplay I have the legion go now and with the much bigger battery I should get even better battery life once lenevo fixes the custom tdp you need to remember of bunch of reviews just turn the device to max and don't even test the low power modes I've been thinking of starting my own channel honestly
My history with GPD is the Win 1-->Win Max 2020-->Win Max 2 2023. I was going to get the Max 2021 motherboard upgrade, but then the Steam Deck was announced. I love the Max 2 as a jack of all trades, and a Windows companion for the games the Deck can't play. The mini looks cool but I like the lager screen and higher resolution with the Max 2 for when I use it as a netbook.
I made a little fold-up kickstand for use with the grips and used 1 of the extra screws that came with the grips.
I have the GPD Win 4 and I love the device. The one thing I would liked to see do is redesign it to accommodate a 7 inch screen as opposed to the 6 inch model they currently use.
finally someone said it! I super love this thing.
Look back at Sony's vaio line up they've been making odd PC's handhelds since the early 2000's which looks very much like several of the newer line ups of "pc handhelds" meant for gaming but they didn't sell well due to price and performance
I think if I could get a Steamdeck in this form factor it would be gravy.
that power consumption is with OS power mode in efficiency? bc it is weird that Celeste use that much CPU Hz
What's the difference between a portrait and landscape display when it comes to handhelds? And is one better than the other?
I honestly think the next breakthrough for handhelds is AI power management, being able to run the lowest TDP automatically without ever having to change the TDP. I think as far as APU's have come we're years from better handheld performance, now we need power management.
I'm not sure you even need AI for that. How does the Steam Deck manage to pull only as much as it needs? On my OLED SD I almost never set custom TDP profiles because it only pulls as much as it needs for each game.
@@substance90 the same reason Helldiver's runs at 20fps versus Ally"s 40-50 on hard levels, because valve is limiting the TDP, just as Nintendo does on the switch. It could run games even better but valve gives you no option to increase the TDP, 25watts is where Ally or legion crushes the deck. When in theory the Deck could get 20% more FPS if they weren't natively throttling the TDP.
AI could sense everything from being plugged in to increasing TDP based on a set baseline frame rate, it could also precisely relay the amount of time you will be able to play at that TDP.
Why doesn't every handheld PC have recessed analog sticks?
Just because it's required for the laptop format doesn't mean it wouldn't be useful in a regular candybar format.
Typically recessed sticks are worse for ergonomics and have limited travel and accuracy. They're used out of necessity, not preference.
@@Graylord88 This just says people haven't paid very much attention to the design of recessed analog sticks.
There's no question Steamdeck and the like would be far superior with high quality recessed analog sticks.
I prefer that kind of software strongly.I get where you're coming from and you're right for newer user, it would be intimidating.
But I'd also argue that those same new users, probably wouldn't be buying a gpd mini.
Not to mention every time I've seen someone try to modernize software like that, it just ends up a dumpster fire. So I rather they leave it and not break it and offer a balloon window that pops up if ya mouse over something.
love a good clamshell for screen protection .
Really loving my Win Mini so far. I figured I'd prefer the Win4 but the Mini won out for me. Really solid little device.
had a gpd win 2 and sold it for 250. it was my first handhelp and i miss it. wish i kept it but compared to my pre build gaming rig at the time is why i thing i sold it but now rock steam deck.
Aint nothing but a funky beat!
I think it looks a little bit too small for my hands.
But man a clamshell design get's me weak in the knees any day of the week hahahaha
There are more clamshells coming soon too! Very interested to see how this scene develops
Not sure of your 18w fps numbers for Shadow of the Tomb Raider are correct. Was this tested with both of their latest drivers at that moment in time?
Would.this work with controlling 'betondroid' please?
How well supported are this devices?? Just sold my deck and i dont know what to get. Im considering the mini and msi claw (to give intel a shot)
video description's talking about the onexplayer x1
thanks mate. fixing now
EDIT: fixed
it's insane the performance for such a small device
I wish people would make more small form factor clamshell gaming mini laptop kinda devices.
Had this win mini for just a week yeah its portable my concern is its so delicate
few to none to protect this thing so i sold it you need to baby this thing...
Specially the lid opening amd closing ot for a week theres a time it causes the screen to glitch it just happened ones so i sold it immediately before it too late
Gyroscopic glasses THATS CRAZY it might feel like so realistic vr experience !
Theres just so many handhelds now all the sudden. I found this channel when i got the lcd steam deck. Sold some stock and gonna get the oled. Nothing beats the battery life of the OG steam deck except the oled one lol. I dont know, im weighing options. May not get another handheld at all, i dont play many triple A games and when i do i prefer that on the pc. All them roguelite roguelike and metroidvanias though, those are perfect on the deck
We're all very spoiled for choice. It's insane
I would consider holding off if ya could. The space is rapidly changing and I expect around computex they'll be new mobile processors for handhelds. *Says the guy who immediately ordered a OLED steamdeck when it went up for sell.*
@@Dracossaint same lol but i still do think a new apu is like 1 to 1.5 years away to substantially give a generational boost
it's a master at portability. No other handheld gaming device with this power/capability comes close to this form factor
Looking at the prices of all the Windows handhelds, it looks like I will be sticking with the Steam Deck instead of getting something else. Hopefully Valve will release a more powerful Steam Deck this year or next.
Love my Winmini, need to setup bazzite on it
Having 1080 resolution on a screen this small just seems like a waste of power imo. Most people won't even be able to tell the difference between 720 and 1080 at this small size.
you can always change the display's resolution
It always amuses me that many ytubers explicitly state that unit was sent free, and no money was exchanged, to give the fake sense that the review is impartial. Remuneration doesn’t have to be monetary, but can be also in GOODS and services…a better way would be that all review units need to be shipped back, or reviewer needs to buy it, perhaps at lower cost…
them point blank hadoukens
Alright.
Now compare the Win Mini to the Ayaneo Flip KB.
Such a shame theres no back buttons tho😢
They show off all theses handhelds but the moment you go to play them outside, your in serious disadvantage as you can’t see the screen due to reflections which makes them unplayable outdoors!
I love mine so much 🎮😁 Might not be considered "pocket size" for everyone but its been able to fit in my left pocket for all of my jeans 👖😎
Literally the only PC handheld I feel comfortable even trying to put in my pants lol
Crazy it’s the same footprint as a xbox controller
Na I upgraded from the steam deck to the gpd win mini. It was definitely a relief to play Modern games without having to do any weird tweaks just to get the game running just like I would on the steam deck
that d-pad and analogue position is ridiculous they should be the other way around
Odd question: Can I hook a mouse to this? As well can it play my Google Play android games and download and play my steam games?
You can use a mouse without issues, it has USB. Android games maybe will work with an emulator, PC games don't have issues, but if you want to play newer games there may be performance issues
I was so close to buying the gpd but then I researched their customer support...
Reminds me of the old blackberry
can you get linux on it?
I never really liked their devices honestly. I thought they kinda were ugly. Except for the gpd win 4. That looks good.
nice
It is not that is underrated it is the price. If this devis was at the same price range as the ROG Ally it would be selling like hotcakes
I really liked the win mini, but i dont trust gpd enough to pay 1200 when a legion go costs 700
I think the price is why these things aren’t an option for a bunch of people, plus how is the support for these machines? Steam deck is just the superior overall package.
"when it comes to landscape and variable refresh rate you're not going to get that here" didn't age too well did it? 😂😂😂
"they don't flood the market with new models" - I just looked up and there's at least over 10 different GDP "handheld" models from 2016 to present day, so that claim is purely false. That includes all GDP win's that have gamepad of sorts in them, even the mini laptops.
How tf is less then 2 a year on average flooding 😂
@@19CD91it’s not.
Notification gang.
new mini has the same ally screen now
But no oculink, which is a deal breaker
I love the mini in theory but the Win Max 2 is superior in almost every way. The Win Max 2 managed to replace my laptop and after I built my own Oculink external GPU it also replaced my desktop. So from a money perspective its a no brainer. There are some compromises in the ergonomics department but non of them are actual deal breakers and can be resolved easily.
That price wow no way fuck that lmao.
if money aint a thing
also more expensive after tax
It's a laptop....
My issue with it, is the terrible controller.
gpd and ayaneo have to learn that they have no business charging more than asus and lenovo if anything it should be less
Lol maybe not asus and Lenovo are gigantic PC manufacturers who have huge contracts with businesses all over the world they probably get all the components for less than half of what gpd can get them for.
@@justint7667 doest mater to the consumer. get good or get lost.
Dude doesn't even type with his thumbs in the video... He shouldn't be doing reviews
Pretty terrible review... Not sure he understands what this is... It's just the smallest gaming handheld with a keyboard... The win max is the cross for productivity with a big battery.. not a dude i would listen too that's for sure
Hello. Dude here. I love the Win Max format. The point I was making is that _in my opinion_, the controls and keyboard are *both* compromised and that's not something I personally enjoy. I made that clear so that all groups of people can make their own decision. If that's something that you would be fine with because of the size then my wording makes it clear that this sort of compromise is one you're probably willing to live with bc yeah it's quite pocketable. But if you're more like me and prefer full fat controls then you may not be pleased with the "master of none" deal. Everything has tradeoffs and it's my job to explain them - which I believe I did but just like me and mine - you're entitled to your own opinion.
This dose have one massive down side it runs windows and that makes it unuseable garbage windows is awful especially for handholds i cant wait for the general puplic to realize just how terrible windows is
i would say it is more laptop than handheld in this case so it is ok
If you think the general public is capable of using Linux I have some bad news for you
It has a keyboard so it works.. your thinking of all the other brands
i am a proud owner of asus rog ally.I have no problem with windows on handheld. I have been using windows for years and i never had any big issue. I think people just exaggerate their problems with windows.
@@rameshgurung1040 nope no exaggeration windows is awful windows used to great but ever since windows 8 it's gone down hill I've been using windows 10 for the last 6 years and I never thought about it then I started using Linux on my secondary laptop and I loved it a lot of the gripes I had with windows 10 did not exist and it was great I then Installed Linux as a dule boot option and I have a steam deck and just imagining windows 10 on deck and all the issues that would come with it sends chills up my spine
Windows 11 hopefully fixed some of the issues I've had Windows 10 but I honestly don't care to find out.