ACC vs iRacing MAIN DIFFERENCE

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  • čas přidán 26. 04. 2023
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Komentáře • 513

  • @kayagami7733
    @kayagami7733 Před 9 měsíci +1579

    Acc: 10€
    iRacing: a Kidney

    • @NguyenNguyen-fe3gm
      @NguyenNguyen-fe3gm Před 5 měsíci +26

      Imagine when you wanna do real life racing

    • @jamietyler5288
      @jamietyler5288 Před 5 měsíci

      @@NguyenNguyen-fe3gmusually if your good enough to even bother sponsors help out

    • @benjioffdsv
      @benjioffdsv Před 5 měsíci +58

      IRL: 500k/year not including crashes

    • @EKORtheFIRST
      @EKORtheFIRST Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@benjioffdsvbut the racers aren’t paying if I’m not wrong

    • @mqxogames
      @mqxogames Před 4 měsíci +29

      @@EKORtheFIRST The racers are absolutely paying in hobby racing and low level competition racing, above that maybe if youre with a team you'll not have to pay for stuff like that but even that's unlikely until you get into proper professional racing.

  • @itzshummy101
    @itzshummy101 Před rokem +2735

    Thats the thing, in ACC, all you really have is the modern GT3 cars so its not an issue

    • @thechode7394
      @thechode7394 Před rokem +107

      Real life telemetry rarely has much overlap between steering inputs and 100 percent brake pressure. Looks like with the new update it’s been improved upon but acc physics are still not there yet.

    • @UknowPark
      @UknowPark Před rokem

      ​@@thechode7394👍

    • @ArchOfficial
      @ArchOfficial Před rokem +34

      @@thechode7394 That's because in real life 100% is usually something like 150bar. In ACC it seems to be maybe half of that. I don't think the torques even reach a 100bar equivalent, it was pretty much unusable with a 90kg-ish brake pedal.

    • @snakezula
      @snakezula Před 11 měsíci +103

      @@thechode7394 They had a real GT3 driver test out ACC and he said it was very accurate, how many GT3's have you driven in the real world?

    • @kaizer2k2
      @kaizer2k2 Před 10 měsíci +69

      @@snakezula they had jardier the sim racer drive the lambo gt3 and he said its also very similar in feel to acc, and the sounds were dead on.

  • @tonygeddes9558
    @tonygeddes9558 Před 11 měsíci +1472

    iRacing also requires a second mortgage. . .

    • @sucharsharma5725
      @sucharsharma5725 Před 11 měsíci +6

      hahaaa

    • @Jc3Films
      @Jc3Films Před 9 měsíci +23

      No it doesn’t. Also if this is the closest thing you will get to driving a real race car across the world for 15 bucks it’s worth it.

    • @jameswhiting3543
      @jameswhiting3543 Před 9 měsíci +101

      @@Jc3Filmsthat gets you one track… You’re talking over 1500 for all the content and let’s remember it’s a game at the end of the day, not saying its a bad game but it’s obviously a complete rip off.

    • @stvn3291
      @stvn3291 Před 9 měsíci +47

      @@jameswhiting3543Yep, having to buy an expensive subscription to get a few cars and tracks is just dumb

    • @nekaa7657
      @nekaa7657 Před 8 měsíci +15

      ​@jameswhiting3543 realistically, are you really going to frequently race on EVERY SINGLE TRACK in EVERY SINGLE CAR? Are you realistically going to drive more than 3 or 4 cars on more than 6 different tracks because half of the ones used in a season are free? Realistically, are you sure you don't already spend way more than $11 a month on other subscriptions?

  • @iwillnoteatzebugs
    @iwillnoteatzebugs Před rokem +996

    Well acc is only gt3 so that s normal behaviour

    • @_antwonTT6
      @_antwonTT6 Před rokem +8

      Uhhh... No.

    • @iwillnoteatzebugs
      @iwillnoteatzebugs Před rokem +56

      @@_antwonTT6 uhmm yes?? Irl gt3 behave like that

    • @_antwonTT6
      @_antwonTT6 Před rokem +9

      @@iwillnoteatzebugs acc isn't only gt3 is what the reply is about.

    • @baswesten796
      @baswesten796 Před rokem

      ​@@_antwonTT6 yeah, so its not possible in the gt4 you dummy think for ones

    • @briarios666
      @briarios666 Před rokem +4

      ​@@_antwonTT6 acc has more than just gt3 acc comp is only gt3 I believe

  • @vinny9152
    @vinny9152 Před rokem +226

    ACC is a product. iRacing is a service.

    • @ryomaprime3130
      @ryomaprime3130 Před rokem +12

      But I’m afraid iRacing owns both service and product

    • @ThBlueSalamander
      @ThBlueSalamander Před rokem +10

      Iracing is more of a product than proud realism.

    • @ryomaprime3130
      @ryomaprime3130 Před rokem +3

      @@ThBlueSalamander If iRacing is much about a product, then it makes other sim more bit of Arcadish~

    • @saulcr839
      @saulcr839 Před rokem +20

      ​@@ryomaprime3130 The main point of iRacing is the racing system . In realism I think there are Sims that offer better pack of physics, ffb , etc...

    • @filipebeat
      @filipebeat Před 9 měsíci

      @@user-lf7du3ci4c peepoo neva oversteer in iRacing like irl.. not realistic at all

  • @afdelta0120
    @afdelta0120 Před rokem +200

    The acc model also allows you to tune how much brake pressure you use. Meaning 100% input isnt 100% braking.

    • @jmccoy96jm
      @jmccoy96jm Před 6 měsíci +2

      😂

    • @lukeskywalker3839
      @lukeskywalker3839 Před 6 měsíci +19

      That happened at normal AC but the fact is that IRL ABS works just like that
      You can even turn corners at 100% braking without blocking depending on the braking bias you have
      I am an supercopa driver so I can confirm that the behavior of ACC cars is realistic but about cars like f4 cuz I tested an NACAM f4 car it feels almost the same way than in Iracing
      Both simulators are FIA certified
      IDK why people argue that much

    • @afdelta0120
      @afdelta0120 Před 6 měsíci

      @@lukeskywalker3839 i know. Same time each car is a little different. And most cars will lock if u steer and brake. Which... im guilty of. So... I just reduce break pressure by like 6-7% and try to be cautious. Mind you, im on controller.

    • @Ifyasmell
      @Ifyasmell Před 4 měsíci +5

      @@afdelta0120”I’m on a controller” makes everything else you’re saying irrelevant.

    • @GiJoe94
      @GiJoe94 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@Ifyasmellthe fact that it's an option is enough, he might be on a yoke for all I care

  • @mrmidnight32
    @mrmidnight32 Před rokem +39

    Ok you’re not going to touch on slip physics? The most game breaking part of iRscing and one of the things that makes ACC so great? The fact one reacts as a real car would and the other turns into an ice simulator

    • @MM-mx8sr
      @MM-mx8sr Před rokem +2

      Not snymore.

    • @samdajellybeenie14
      @samdajellybeenie14 Před 6 měsíci +4

      Slip physics? You mean the thing that makes ACC cars feel like they’re floating?

    • @opmike343
      @opmike343 Před 3 měsíci +5

      This hasn't been true for years. Stop repeating bullshit over and over.

    • @mrmidnight32
      @mrmidnight32 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@opmike343 Not like the Devs haven't acknowledged this them selves for the last 4 years and been updating it almost every year lmao

  • @dadhats
    @dadhats Před rokem +218

    my irl track car def prefers to brake like you do in iracing. I have a pretty aggressive brake pad that actually engages the abs if I were to brake to 100% pressure

    • @mohammedsalimahmed5230
      @mohammedsalimahmed5230 Před 10 měsíci +42

      ACC has GT3 cars only where you're meant to apply 100% braking in real life.
      So, GT3 cars are unrealistic in iracing.

    • @RYVENANT
      @RYVENANT Před 9 měsíci +16

      @@mohammedsalimahmed5230 you can still exceed the ABS threshold in real life, which is what is portrayed in iRacing. iRacing punishes a lot more for excessive ABS use, but ACC doesn't punish enough for excessive ABS use. Neither are spot on realistic, so the assertion "GT3 cars are unrealistic in iRacing" can be applied just as equally to ACC.
      It comes down to driver preference. Daniel Morad, for example, races GT3 in real life and stated the braking in iRacing GT3 feels more like the real deal.

    • @mohammedsalimahmed5230
      @mohammedsalimahmed5230 Před 9 měsíci +9

      @@RYVENANT fair enough, there's a British driver that races for McLaren (GT3) and he prefers ACC. So it's down to preference/individual experience.

    • @marijn17s
      @marijn17s Před 7 měsíci +4

      @@mohammedsalimahmed5230GT3 drivers have said before that the braking in ACC is unrealistic lol

    • @Delimon007
      @Delimon007 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@mohammedsalimahmed5230
      Uh, ABS is far better than just the human foot but you NEVER want to smash down the brake pedal. You still brake normally and ABS ensures that you don't skid.

  • @nakazonegamestreaming896
    @nakazonegamestreaming896 Před 9 měsíci +12

    Well ACC is almost an exclusive GT3 Sim so it is understandable.

  • @6vitamin
    @6vitamin Před rokem +6

    This is super important, and I struggled in places until I understood it. Obvy I watched onboards and saw the pedal work, but until I understood this from spending time in iRacing (mostly W12/W13) and watched dev blogs and read ACC documents, eracers, I struggled MIGHTILY in places like Hungaro.
    so THANK YOU for spreading the word,

  • @directed_by_fab3374
    @directed_by_fab3374 Před rokem +98

    Not according with that. Acc wants you to brake at 100% but if you're playing it realistically, you will always lock up your wheels when braking in acc. And, you are more efficient in acc braking like in I racing.

    • @T1mischief
      @T1mischief Před rokem +22

      plus breaking to 80% n then slowly up to 100% is the move in acc, dude doesn't talk about it for some reason

    • @Diamond-ji2gv
      @Diamond-ji2gv Před rokem

      ​@@T1mischief true but its too hard.

    • @mrmidnight32
      @mrmidnight32 Před rokem +22

      @@T1mischiefhe missed a lot of things. He says this is the most major difference. When for me it’s slip physics. In ACC you can lock up or blow a corner and keep racing. In iRacing you slide on ice for 10 miles before you lose any speed by slamming into a wall or spin like a top. It’s a good sim when you have grip. But one of the WORST sims when you lose it. Accept on open wheel

    • @Kretunio
      @Kretunio Před 6 měsíci +2

      Not to mention you'll cause a flatspot in ACC by locking the wheels and not hard to do with ABS off.

    • @pk7549
      @pk7549 Před 6 měsíci

      You had to give it away didn't you?

  • @treygates4636
    @treygates4636 Před rokem +61

    So does that mean that the ABS system for ACC GT3 Cars is more realistic than in Iracing GT3 Cars?

    • @kbonics25
      @kbonics25 Před rokem +28

      ACC only has GT3 and GT4 classes, so it can focus on dynamic braking physics for 2 classes of cars.
      Whereas, Iracing has multiple classes to its required to simulate their braking physics.

    • @AKK5I
      @AKK5I Před rokem +15

      Yes.

    • @Daz555Daz
      @Daz555Daz Před rokem +14

      The latest update for GT3 in iRacing made it far more like ACC. You can pretty much smash the brakes now in iRacing in GT3.

    • @bmwM3M5M6
      @bmwM3M5M6 Před rokem +3

      @@Daz555Daz yes you can but it doesn’t make you any faster, that’s also the point of the video…What’s your opinion about this ?

    • @Daz555Daz
      @Daz555Daz Před rokem +19

      @@bmwM3M5M6 if real GT3 drivers are smashing the brake and letting advanced ABS systems handle it then sim racing should reflect that. I'm glad that ACC and now iRacing are replicating this aspect of GT3 racing more accurately (assuming that's the case).

  • @gtrob8711
    @gtrob8711 Před rokem +25

    Someone needs to show gt7 creator about balancing with weight transfer.

    • @BigRascal
      @BigRascal Před 8 měsíci +14

      GT7 isn’t meant to be a super realistic simulator. They have to make it somewhat accessible for “bad drivers” so it can sell. It’s Sony’s flagship racing title

    • @priyam352
      @priyam352 Před 7 měsíci +4

      gt7 is meant to be more accesible the original physics model for when gt first came out was made with years of researsch and was too realistic so since then they have been toning the realism down to make it easeier for controller players and just bad drivers

    • @Delimon007
      @Delimon007 Před 6 měsíci +4

      For real. . . It's so annoying how stiff the cars are and how they don't turn under deceleration. You're supposed to get MORE steering when you free up the tyres from braking and accelerating, not understeer off the F'in track.

    • @igorlopes8638
      @igorlopes8638 Před 6 měsíci

      Gt7 dont enter this world, they are for boys

    • @lukeskywalker3839
      @lukeskywalker3839 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Gt7 is arcade
      GT saga realism died in GT6

  • @deontedumas3130
    @deontedumas3130 Před 7 měsíci +5

    I know this isn't a tutorial but this helps so much. I break on some corners at 100% playing Assetto and I got a good handle on the car but I lose speed, glad to know I just need to mess around with the brakes a little

    • @magicshrooms666
      @magicshrooms666 Před 4 měsíci

      Load cell pedals may also help if you don't have them already

  • @layerdballoonswe
    @layerdballoonswe Před rokem +97

    And also a kidney for iracing 😂😂

    • @Simlife101
      @Simlife101 Před 11 měsíci +5

      @layerballoonswe so your kidneys sell for less than $1500 thats what the content costs for everything amd thats without the 20% over a certain amount of content. Ive been driving iracing for 6 years and only spent about £500 on content.

    • @jameswhiting3543
      @jameswhiting3543 Před 8 měsíci +20

      @@Simlife101”only £500”😂😂

    • @Brennenm97
      @Brennenm97 Před 7 měsíci +3

      ​@@jameswhiting3543much cheaper than a real weekend of even practice. And after putting tons of hours into all the different Sims. Iracing is the most competitive especially when u get through the lower splits. It becomes amazingly competitive compared to others. League racing is the only way to play ACC or AC with that type of fun which is fine too 😊

    • @Barbatoslol
      @Barbatoslol Před 7 měsíci +6

      @@Simlife101 meanwhile ACC... 11.99$

    • @angryasfman9077
      @angryasfman9077 Před 7 měsíci +1

      wont reach 100$ even if you buy all the dlc.

  • @metalhead6604
    @metalhead6604 Před 12 dny +8

    Its almost like ACC is simulating a modern gr3 😮

  • @c0deg0ld78
    @c0deg0ld78 Před 5 měsíci +13

    I personally enjoy IRacing. It’s the best simulator in my opinon and if you have a job then I have no complaints about it. It shouldn’t spark a argument between sim racers globally. I don’t understand why can’t we just all enjoy our sims and get on with life. 😂😭

  • @saku0207
    @saku0207 Před 14 dny +2

    If you turn off ABS or have low settings in ACC and break 100% into a corner you won’t be fast. Another big difference is the tyre model..

  • @joeyvanwinkle8791
    @joeyvanwinkle8791 Před 12 dny +9

    Acc is a gt3 Sim so why wouldn't they brake like gt3 abs systems?

    • @Bands247
      @Bands247 Před 6 dny

      Hahahaha that’s exactly what I say. 100% brake pressure every corner is not realistic at all

  • @hericmartinez
    @hericmartinez Před 4 měsíci +1

    I can't really brake 100% in ACC, I feel like when the ABS engages the car just doesn't slow down as quickly, so I end up carrying a lot of speed at turn entry, understeering and losing the apex.

  • @DJZander303
    @DJZander303 Před 2 měsíci

    This is whats definitely making me slow in iracing, with most of my hours in ACC. Im not used to the not 100% breaking. Causing me to look up,starting out, and now just overall slower now that im getting used to it.

  • @jeremystarnes3160
    @jeremystarnes3160 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Acc is also a game based on said gt3 cars with amazing abs systems

  • @KC16A6
    @KC16A6 Před 9 měsíci +2

    VERY good points except that if you want to get better ar driving... you SHOULD try to brake hard without ABS now and then, and especially with different vehicle configurations

  • @tentons10
    @tentons10 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Having gone from ACC to a Ferrari challenge, my driving style and adaptation were fine IRL. I do think that knowing about threshold braking rounds out any issues the sim doesn’t cover though.

  • @FaiLoYut
    @FaiLoYut Před 2 měsíci

    @SuellioAlmeida Question then: how does braking in ACC without ABS compare to iRacing?

  • @codefk8711
    @codefk8711 Před měsícem +1

    iracing is superior in most levels, but ACC has it's gems. Even RaceRoom kills it with their shifts (you feel it in the wheel)

  • @LIRGECACORSEGT
    @LIRGECACORSEGT Před 6 měsíci

    I lock up in abs, and im 0.5 from aliens

  • @fedorsamokhin4495
    @fedorsamokhin4495 Před 27 dny +1

    In real car, belive me I do races on karts and cars, 100% brake application initially and then slow release is also better than do 80% application. So ACC does everything just right

  • @Pabosqeaks
    @Pabosqeaks Před 9 měsíci

    Assetto should really come out with a free roam map that you can drive any car on while also having their racing sim mode, it’s a little hassle having to download all these mods, but I mean it’s still fun

  • @bigriggc5828
    @bigriggc5828 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I love your videos and have learned and watched a lot, but when I play Assetto Corsa the wheels lock up very easily if you do 100%. Is it because I’m not doing competicione? I have had to learn trail breaking and brake pressure especially in the Tattus because it will lock up like expected.

    • @ToyotaMotorola
      @ToyotaMotorola Před 2 měsíci +1

      ACC and AC are completely different games. ACC has different physics and is based almost exclusively on GT cars. AC has all types of cars, especially when modded. AC also has older cars that don't have ABS or only very light ABS. Smashing the brake can and will lock up your brakes in AC or lead to understeer if done improperly

  • @hamzterix
    @hamzterix Před rokem +20

    Thank YOU!
    That's exactly what I noticed right away when ACC was released years back. Now ACC is the only sim I take seriously and spent most of my simracing hours.

    • @Simlife101
      @Simlife101 Před 11 měsíci +10

      @hamzterix but its not realistic. Irl you go into abs then come out instantly and fine tune the last bit of pressure. Your just used to playing a game not a real sim so it have game traits. Take the training wheels off and come over to IR

    • @hamzterix
      @hamzterix Před 11 měsíci +7

      @brummiedeano7703 You must be a Pro. I've been a member of iRacing (ice-Racing) since 2009. I also own the original AC, ACC, rF2, Automobilista2 , RaceRoom, etc... Every sim has couple flaws, it's up to people to choose which one they wanna tolerate.

    • @connorhind8907
      @connorhind8907 Před 10 měsíci +12

      ​@Simlife101 lmaoooooooooo this is funny. Telling him to take the training wheels off and come over to a real sim. How is that rain going over in Iracing? Such a realistic simulator without one major pattern of weather

    • @kurok1tenshi
      @kurok1tenshi Před 9 měsíci

      @@Simlife101 Here comes the snob elitist, ACC allows you to change the brake pressure, allowing one to brake at 100% without hitting the 100% brake pressure or, if you want, even without hitting the ABS system, the reason why iRacing won´t release another updated engine that can do way more is cause of elitists like you that can´t criticize what they buy and justify it with insults to the competition while selling a kidney to buy all the content...i bet the next insult is that ppl that don´t play it are all poor and don´t have the means.

    • @Delimon007
      @Delimon007 Před 6 měsíci

      @@connorhind8907
      That's because you don't race in the rain. . . at best, you'll race if the rain is light, if it's any more than that, you're not racing unless you like crashing.

  • @T.K.9
    @T.K.9 Před 7 měsíci +1

    It makes sense cause ACC got GT3's.
    Iracing I love too but that monthly sub kinda annoyed me. Not forgetting that you have to buy the tracks and cars you want.

  • @mds0802
    @mds0802 Před rokem +5

    Hey Man, i really enjoy ur content, may u give us a bit of tips for the upcoming nordschleife 24 hours to get a better laptime
    Cheers

  • @tarekmoneimsaid
    @tarekmoneimsaid Před měsícem

    Ah, so just like New Star GP xD
    I like that game, very fun

  • @marksutherlandjr.2121
    @marksutherlandjr.2121 Před měsícem

    Suellio, I tried to outbreak someone off the straight in MX5 this week Virginia North turn 1. I had to purchase some stopping power by downshiftiwoth my breaking just before lockup. It was all too much and I blew my engine lol.. I didn't know I could do that lol

  • @seebarry4068
    @seebarry4068 Před 7 měsíci

    Good comparison

  • @EverythingSim
    @EverythingSim Před 22 dny

    Do you coach people on ACC?

  • @hoodedcreeper2465
    @hoodedcreeper2465 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I always drive with tc and abs turned off anyway. Sure abs will allow you to 100% brake without lockup but its slower than just braking at the correct threshold. Abs also makes it difficult to learn what that threshold is.

    • @filipebeat
      @filipebeat Před 9 měsíci

      yes, i neva use ABS or TC either. i hate it

    • @daggerfighter
      @daggerfighter Před 8 měsíci +8

      Fact is, good abs is always faster if you drive it properly, electronics here is better than the best human by far + allows for unequal braking force left and right tyres which is impossible without the abs -> more grip available for braking. So it's modelled in AC the way it's supposed to be. Fun factor and learning-wise of course no aids is the best.

    • @filipebeat
      @filipebeat Před 8 měsíci

      @@daggerfighter it maybe 'faster', not always, + u need to know n 'always' check da performance without it, cuz if u dont, u missing mo

    • @supmo68
      @supmo68 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@daggerfighter ahem...
      First i completely agree with what you stated but one thing i need to say
      You can have unequal brake force without ABS and thats called 2 brake pedals and I know it exists, some Hillclimb cars here in Germany have such crazy things

    • @daggerfighter
      @daggerfighter Před 6 měsíci

      Yeah, talking about normal cars of course@@supmo68

  • @TomoShiroEU
    @TomoShiroEU Před rokem +1

    Yes and No.
    With the most recent Tiremodel in ACC it is more effective to not go 100% on the Brakes.
    It's still a viable way to decellerate, but it is now slower and punishing on the Tires to go 100% on the Brakes.

    • @aquaxbat
      @aquaxbat Před 10 měsíci

      How would you describe your braking now?

  • @TheMatziking
    @TheMatziking Před 6 měsíci

    So which one is realistic in terms of GT3? I would say its ACC from in regards of you clip.

  • @reptileracing
    @reptileracing Před 6 měsíci

    what is more realistic with ABS? ACC or iR braking?

  • @NiederDrifts
    @NiederDrifts Před 9 měsíci

    So is acc more realistic on braking for gt3 cars? And then iracing is more focused on it’s braking physics for downforce and cup cars with no abs?

  • @timothyprovost7573
    @timothyprovost7573 Před rokem +2

    Biggest difference is the price.

  • @MattO109
    @MattO109 Před rokem

    Even in the older AC i notice that if Im more aggressive with my breaking in GT3 cars its not the same and I always lock up my rears. Similar setups Ive chocked it up to poor ABS in the old games because once I stopped slamming down to 100% it stops

  • @jakehiggins5118
    @jakehiggins5118 Před 3 měsíci

    Hopefull when AC2 comes out they'll have some sort of ranked multiplayer system that will compete with iracing. We need more competition to iracing so maybe they'll stop charging an arm and a leg

  • @Real28
    @Real28 Před 5 měsíci

    Is this a new thing with the modeling? I started on iracing back in 2010/2011 and i would hit 100% in the old Star Mazda and then trail it off effectively. No lock ups.

  • @BWB_Cubing
    @BWB_Cubing Před 10 měsíci +1

    Assetto corsa (the normal one) feels like its more popular than acc
    How shoudl you breka in normal assetto corsa

  • @ArchOfficial
    @ArchOfficial Před rokem +2

    There is no such thing as "100% braking" in a real system. so I wouldn't really look at pedal inputs too much unless you know what line pressures and wheel torques the sim is outputting.

  • @jester3265
    @jester3265 Před 11 měsíci +7

    I've never braked 100% and held it going through any corner, ACC will NOT allow you to do what you have said.

    • @kaizer2k2
      @kaizer2k2 Před 10 měsíci

      u can learn to trail brake

    • @jester3265
      @jester3265 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@kaizer2k2
      I've got trail breaking almost mastered, though none of my driving is consistent yet.

    • @kaizer2k2
      @kaizer2k2 Před 10 měsíci

      @@jester3265 consistency comes with practice, pick one car and two track and spend a lot of time just trying to get close to alien pace.
      What you said earlier is not true at all, I almost always use 100% braking application. Either you're braking to early or you're not pushing your car enough.
      Perfect example would be Monza T1, requires 100% braking after you pass the 150 board, you trail brake in carrying your speed for exit.
      Play solo or online races and forget about trying to come first or on podium. Just focus on completing the race without a crash or spin on your end. Also be mindful of your tire temps during the end of the race as they get hot and can cause the rear to step out.

    • @jester3265
      @jester3265 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@kaizer2k2
      Hiya, im really lucky as i can practice 3hrs+ a day.
      Oh I totally agree that we use 100% braking and Monza is a great example however, I meant that we don't brake 100% through or on the entry to corners on ACC as it is just not possible My mistake as I didn't explain myself properly.

    • @kaizer2k2
      @kaizer2k2 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@jester3265 ahh yes that you are correct about, we do not use 100% braking into the corners.

  • @riccardoferrero2536
    @riccardoferrero2536 Před 9 měsíci

    Well.. since gt3 cars use abs it's kinda normal to have it, on assetto corsa there are cars without it. +You can set abs 0 and you will block if you brake too hard

  • @rankisdumb214
    @rankisdumb214 Před 21 dnem

    Ive never played Iracing but i find not engaging the ABS in ACC is faster.....Yes you can slam on the brake but many people are using 1 or 2 ABS settings which will allow you to lock up the tires. Especially if they are cold.
    The biggest thing in ACC is "CORE" tire temperature.. You can have your PSI perfect but if the "CORE" tire temperature is too low you're losing a ton of grip and braking performance!
    When you get that CORE tire temperature perfect in ACC the cars drive amazingly! Most people dont realize their tires core temps are too cold this costing them lap times!
    Having the core temperature just right can make a full second per lap difference using identical inputs!
    Hungaring, Valencia, Barcelona, Spa, and Weather tech are prime examples!
    I used to struggle at Weather Tech on the first half of the track. Once i got my core temps right i was down in the low 1:22's. But if the core temperature isnt right its easy to drop to the 1:23.5-1:24
    Both Barcelona and Hungaring are the same way. Tire temps Right 1:43's comfortablely. Wrong 1:44's
    Valencia is another one. So much relies on corner exit. In order to do 1:30 consistently the tires must be in the window...Outside the window and its 1:31-1:31.8. that extra tire slip kills lap times.. Paul Richard 3rd sector is like that too! If you wanna get down to the 1:53's or better the core temperatures much be right.
    Even with the broken Physics model the ACC tire model is pretty good! Especially when the track is greasy or green!
    Thats another thing no one really seems to take advantage of! Starting races at green for free practice into Qualifying and working up to optimal. Green and optimal can easily be two seconds different per lap..

  • @bluetube4248
    @bluetube4248 Před 3 měsíci

    Makes sense honestly cause ACC literally is modern GT3 cars only

  • @marcopanetta5927
    @marcopanetta5927 Před 9 měsíci +2

    U tellin me that acc is more similar to the reality compared to iR?

    • @supmo68
      @supmo68 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Money =/= realism
      that said ACC focuses on a few classes of cars which all behave very similar. They are all GT Cars while IR has literally everything
      ACC has real Data thats also not outdated and takes drivers for testing. Just look up what Misha Charoudin said in his latest Insta Post about ACC.
      Also ACC really looks into details and is way more realistic than you think i show you an example by Aris Drives a physics developer for Kunos Simulazioni:
      czcams.com/video/PFxIZ-9Awj4/video.htmlsi=JdjGIKMtya61vy3r
      In Iracing i always felt like I was not connected to the road and always sliding around and that cant be realistic either and also one mistake and your tyres are completely gone, which doesnt make a lot of sense.
      In ACC you can work the tyre

  • @scrappy8494
    @scrappy8494 Před rokem

    from what i know/heard from real life drivers. the braking model is better on ACC since you have to go quite deep into the ABS to find time in the braking zone

    • @MM-mx8sr
      @MM-mx8sr Před rokem

      Some drivers said that you dont go that deep into abs

  • @shawn4559
    @shawn4559 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I mean doesnt gt3 and gt4 series have abs and traction control? If so, i mean thats the cars spec. Makes sense. With iracing you have varieties of many different racing series that doesnt use assists like abs and traction control

  • @shaunster2
    @shaunster2 Před 2 měsíci

    So it’s better to turn abs to 12 or change the break pressure to 50%

  • @p.a.16motorsport27
    @p.a.16motorsport27 Před 4 měsíci

    Difference between Iracing and Rfactor2?

  • @SuellioAlmeida
    @SuellioAlmeida  Před rokem +3

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  • @jjawertyjj
    @jjawertyjj Před měsícem

    i racing toyota gr98. most best laps with full 100% abs pressure brakes

  • @majesticthenerd
    @majesticthenerd Před rokem

    What's the BGM called?

  • @JamesHartnell
    @JamesHartnell Před 7 měsíci +3

    However, high Downforce cars do allow very heavy initial brake application but you have to bleed off the pressure as the grip/DF reduces.

  • @-Envixity-_-
    @-Envixity-_- Před měsícem

    Does this only apply to Cars with abs on or even with it turned off

  • @mcda_b0556
    @mcda_b0556 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Well, i don't see the problem knowing ACC is basically GT3 sim racing

  • @XxAdroitxXX
    @XxAdroitxXX Před rokem

    Thanks for reviewing ACC!

  • @DeidrichSmith
    @DeidrichSmith Před 11 měsíci

    Well, idk if this is a good thing, even though I'm new, I recommend other new players to enable the brake assist to make you not lock up

  • @Patoshik23
    @Patoshik23 Před měsícem

    So does it mean that I should turn off ABS in ACC if I want to grow a more realistic approach for breaking?

    • @Without3
      @Without3 Před 6 dny +1

      Noooo!! Gt3 cars have abs and tracion control, it is normal to use it

  • @thecooljohn100
    @thecooljohn100 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Some dude really said: "Well, iRacing is expensive, but if you think about it it's way cheaper than if you owned a real race car and took it out for track days."💀yeah nice logic

    • @trevor4533
      @trevor4533 Před 7 měsíci

      Yeah, because it is 😂

    • @supmo68
      @supmo68 Před 6 měsíci

      @@trevor4533 yeah but that still doesnt take away the fact that Iracing takes away your kidney for some league Racing and racing some "cars" on a screen

    • @trevor4533
      @trevor4533 Před 6 měsíci

      @@supmo68 Sure, if you want to race literally every single car and track, it is obviously quite expensive compared to ACC. Buy the yearly black Friday renewal deal(which by the way is live right now), cars and tracks in bundles for a discount, and get your participation credits, and it can be quite manageable for anyone with a job.

  • @swecreations
    @swecreations Před 11 měsíci +5

    Even on standard road car ABS 100% brake pressure will be just as good at stopping you fast

  • @TheGameboy57
    @TheGameboy57 Před 7 měsíci +1

    So what you are saying is that acc, which is a gt3 simulator and only a gt3 simulator (to my knowledge), simulates modern gt3 cars the way that they are irl and is closer than iracing for modern gt3 cars, and that iracing, which is a motorsport simulator for pretty much all kinds of motorsport, is realistic but not always perfectly accurate to the specific car

  • @elboss8623
    @elboss8623 Před rokem +4

    More of ACC please 🙏

  • @charliebeckey6269
    @charliebeckey6269 Před rokem +22

    Daniel Morad on his channel said when he races his real life gt3 you initially trigger the abs but then back off slightly so you are just below the threshold. Apparently you don't always stay deep in the abs **his words not mine**

    • @SuellioAlmeida
      @SuellioAlmeida  Před rokem +10

      I agree with it! But in some sims it will be faster for some reason

  • @valfar9999
    @valfar9999 Před 5 měsíci +1

    You guys brake at 100% without trailbraking in ACC ? I thought you were suppose to avoid triggering the ABS as much as you can
    I mean, I honestly don't know and I'm far from being fast but I always brake way faster by doing this than slamming the brake pedal without gauging anything

  • @shepherdrm8486
    @shepherdrm8486 Před 13 dny

    Yeah cuz kicking it fully in abs the entire time really improves your times ..😂

  • @SwigerQ86
    @SwigerQ86 Před 3 měsíci

    Braking is a breeze in AC

  • @under6977
    @under6977 Před 9 měsíci

    So that leads me to ask, which one more realistic? Or they both equal in opposite direction?

    • @chogpamp123
      @chogpamp123 Před 3 měsíci +1

      They definately both have strengths and weaknesses, but iRacing has much more variety and better physics overall.

  • @user-qb5bd3kc6v
    @user-qb5bd3kc6v Před 5 měsíci

    Anyone having a list of real life racing drivers competing in ACC (excluded those who went from sim to real life racing). Driver61 and Daniel Morad prefer iRacing and Max Verstappen only competes in iRacing and rF2. Driver61 says iRacing is closest to real life and Daniel says braking is most realistic in iRacingczcams.com/video/4MVI6U9tC5g/video.html . Personally I miss a lot of road detail in iRacing and in ACC I actually feel the weight of the car as it is in real life. Mario was once asked if Sim Racing (I think it was in rF2) was the same as real lie, he said something like 'No, you need to know what the game wants' . And I always heard that rF2 has the best physics.

  • @thecooljohn100
    @thecooljohn100 Před 7 měsíci +1

    In response to some sad old bloke defending iRacing and the company's wallet as if they gave a shit about him or even knew who he was lmao:
    There's plenty of life service titles that have operated for close to a decade or more all the while not requiring every single player to spend hundreds of dollars on it every year for them to be able to just experience the game in totality. You can make the argument that people don't need every single track or every single car, but that's besides the point. At the end of the day the developers charge those prices because they know they have a unique product with not much competition. The playerbase is letting them get away with this. If everyone stopped buying cars/tracks and cancelled their subscriptions, they'd be forced to drop their prices immediately.
    Dude really said "well if you think about it it's way cheaper than going on actual track days".... as if that's an adequate defense of a game with one of the most aggressive monetization models in gaming💀

  • @BPMa14n
    @BPMa14n Před 24 dny

    Whew I thought you were gonna say ACC is sim inevery way but arcady in braking. Real life gt3 cars are just THAT good

  • @d1pz9
    @d1pz9 Před rokem +4

    So basically you could've summed it up as ACC simulates GT cars just as they are in real life while iRacing uses a braking style that's inaccurate for GT cars

  • @chayseiico8348
    @chayseiico8348 Před 18 dny

    Du kannst bei den Linien einfach auf die Rate schauen. Wenn der Steinbruch zB.: 400 Tonnen produziert brauchst du auf der Linie eine Rate von 400 dann passt das genau

  • @NeoGeo822
    @NeoGeo822 Před 8 měsíci

    Whag about threshold braking 🤔 I use it in ACC which isn't always optimal but its very consistent.

  • @ay1ai146
    @ay1ai146 Před 10 měsíci

    What about gt7 could u do some video about gt7 :)

  • @backmarkerbob
    @backmarkerbob Před měsícem

    IRacing's braking is its most accurate feature

  • @redleaderracing
    @redleaderracing Před 9 měsíci

    What about GT7? Because that has an ABS setting on/off

  • @mrbungle3310
    @mrbungle3310 Před 5 měsíci

    Real life is more forgiving,but i think the iracing technique in irl open wheel cars works...max verstappen drives like that irl...look at him now

  • @mulletbubbles9909
    @mulletbubbles9909 Před 2 měsíci

    is you have assetto corsa go into the car folder and turn up the braking force

  • @PlatinumAgar
    @PlatinumAgar Před 9 měsíci +1

    I never liked how the braking in assetto works

    • @Laffsatyou
      @Laffsatyou Před 6 měsíci

      Because it's trash. Full brake, full throttle, full brake, full throttle. Boring as fuck

  • @mcgrup
    @mcgrup Před rokem +6

    Good point but main difference is Iracing takes all freaking day to load the game

  • @ltpdanius425
    @ltpdanius425 Před 5 měsíci

    idk when I am playing acc I think I never turn on 100% brake because car will not turn it just understeere so idk how much of this is true

  • @collinmurphy3119
    @collinmurphy3119 Před 3 měsíci

    ACC braking actually feels real, though. If you turn ABS off, you can 100% lock up the tires. In iRacing however, trail braking is almost useless, as there is almost zero difference in front grip while turning whether you brake or not. In iRacing, you just have to be at a low enough speed for the tires to work. Their physics feel unrealistic to me. ACC is much closer to real world feel, IMO.

  • @midslam
    @midslam Před rokem +5

    But which one do you think is better Suellio?
    That's what we all want to know 😉

    • @lukasausen
      @lukasausen Před rokem +1

      the real main diference between the two is that ACC is newer and is easily more enjoyable in casual scenario with a smaller competitive scene where iracing demands a lot of time and comitment to learn its UI, rules, ranking system, and specially the races wich are time locked by the hour, wich makes it a much better competitive game IMO, but if you just want to enter a lobby and race for 20 min or so without any comitments with some randoms its not that great, its a awesome competitive simulator, but its not meant for everyone, i myself can only play the actual races once a week because of time constraints wich make it a bit harder on me since the tracks changes every week, while acc i can play online basically everyday since it takes much less time and i can leave when i want. both are extremely enjoyable simulators, but time is a big deterrance for iracing.
      its obvious that if you want a competitive game where you can improve and battle the best drivers in the world with a ranking system them iracing is the best, but it does not make acc a bad simulator, both have their pros and cons, its just that iracing has by far the best matchmaking, tournaments, and servers for any "pro level" simulator.

    • @bmwM3M5M6
      @bmwM3M5M6 Před rokem

      @@lukasausen I’m new to iRacing so still in rookies, didn’t do any race yet, like you said I’m still learning everything but I put the hours in it and I’m a fast learner. Already know how the cars (GT3/GTE/cup) behave. Coming from 1800h of ACC and with 1.9 update I get FPS drops to 10 fps which is undriveable and the 1.9 update is the cause so I moved to iRacing (can’t do without racing so 😀)

  • @mugzei163
    @mugzei163 Před 9 měsíci

    But you also can't feel the abs system in your brake pedal like you can in real life cars so why would acc makes it better for ease of use

  • @Mr.Grumps565
    @Mr.Grumps565 Před 3 měsíci

    So iracing had racers working with them that cared about the car feeling over how a curb looked lol. Thanks David perel

  • @JAVMusic1409
    @JAVMusic1409 Před 7 měsíci

    And the fact there are a lot less cars in ACC

  • @GuppyMilk334
    @GuppyMilk334 Před 10 měsíci +7

    ACC just feels so unnatural i cant go back to it. I used to race in ACC for +500hrs, but it never felt natural for me. After i tried iracing i never returned to ACC.

  • @ronaldwoofer5024
    @ronaldwoofer5024 Před 25 dny

    i mean 90% of the cars in ACC are modern gt3 lol

  • @tratus25
    @tratus25 Před 5 měsíci

    The main difference between them is just the force feedback that they're both produce I racing is really good but ACC is absolutely terrible can't race it. People keep saying the biggest problem with ACC is the fact that it doesn't have good online multiplayer features in base game but it's honestly just the feedback. That is the game's biggest problem

  • @fastandforceious
    @fastandforceious Před 7 měsíci

    Tbh I like the normal AC more than ACC

  • @scubajoe3321
    @scubajoe3321 Před 2 měsíci

    Im happy with gt7

  • @cesraw
    @cesraw Před 5 měsíci

    So which is more realistic