The State of Sim Racing in 2024
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- čas přidán 20. 05. 2024
- What does the sim racing landscape look like in March 2024?
This was always going to be an important period, with numerous game releases, major updates and key announcements in the sim racing space coming thick and fast. Sometimes, it's good to take a breath, and reflect on where we are.
In this video, John takes you through the various changes that have already shaped the industry early this year, before a brief look at what's to come. It's worth noting (given the pace of development), that in the few days since recording this video, several of the topics discussed have progressed further yet again!
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Chapters:
00:00 - Introduction
00:35 - The Turn of the Year
02:15 - The Main Headlines
05:40 - Assetto Corsa News
08:21 - The World of Rallying
10:02 - Breaking News!
10:18 - Rennsport
11:30 - The Gateway Sims
12:51 - A Sticky Situation...
14:14 - More Good News for Endurance Fans
15:11 - One for the Future
15:55 - A Look Ahead
16:34 - Reflection
#SimRacing #RaceAnywhere #SimRacing2024 - Hry
Ac 2 has just been announced and will be called assetto corsa evo.
every year sim racing is getting better and better, more sims and more hardware, literally getting better by the minute.
No it isn't, hardware gets better but there isn't the games to utilise them, AMS2 has funky FFB just like PCars, most played 'sim' is AC which is old and most people use gash mods hashed together, then we rfactor2 which i won't even go there...... its awful currently IMO....
@@alfaV6boy1 count your blessings cowboy
@@alfaV6boy1TRUE!
@@alfaV6boy1Iracing leading the pack brother
I disagree….the devices and hardware is getting better but the driving standards and experience is not. It’s getting worse…..
Suprise of the year for me has been Le Mans Ultimate. I have zero interest in WEC or prototypes but after trying the game, I have never been so engaged with any other sim. It just feels right and all what the car is doing makes total sense. The multiplayer is great: full servers and surprisingly clean and competitive races. I know it shares the same roots as rFactor 2, but to me it feels like a totally different animal.
Always nice when something surprises you :)
It's a bit like owning an Alfa. When it's running right, it's sublime but then the bugs get you 😂
But how are the actual tire traction physics compared to real life?
I was sad about Traxion ending but I’m truly happy to see you back with this new channel! Hoping all the best for you 👏
What happened to Traxion
Thanks a lot!
What happened to Traxion?
@@jerwatson79 Motorsport Games (who owned Traxion) was bleeding too much money so they shut them down (along with the developers who were behind KartKraft and working on the IndyCar game) as last ditch effort to stay alive (and that they have, for now).
@@AllardWolff Motorsport Games (who owned Traxion) was bleeding too much money so they shut them down (along with the developers who were behind KartKraft and working on the IndyCar game) as last ditch effort to stay alive (and that they have, for now).
Here to shout for AMS2!!!!
Still Project Cars 2.5 .
@@ACFUN34, nothing wrong with that. To me, it's the sim that comes the closest to holding a race car on the ragged edge of oversteer. Not every car is brilliant, but it's making more progress more quickly than any sim in history. Just look at where the sim is today compared to where it started in 2019!
@@flyingphoenix113 Exactly. Hoping for more improvements to physics, and with the IMSA partnership it's only up from here
@@flyingphoenix113It's a game that is always over steering. Nothing realistic about the grip IMO. James Baldwin commented on how unrealistic the physics are and how you need to drive to be fast. Can be fun but for me it's so far from feeling believable I struggle to call it a sim tbh.
Well laid out recap with a captivating presentation and awesome production quality . . . yeah, I'll subscribe!
A lot of players still in DR2 are probably VR players like me. It would be nice if EA could give us an update on that feature.
It’s a good point! And also, DR2.0 was always such a strong platform anyway, it makes a lot of sense that players will continue to play. EA Sports has the potential of course, but isn’t yet as developed and clean a product as DR2.0 is these days.
only reason why I didn't buy it
@@raceanywhere People might continue to play it, but EA will probably de-list this game. I don't know how that part is ignored, as it always happened with serialized sports-games like these. - I finally got DR2 at a discount recently, with a big reason being that it has potential to be unavailable within a year or two. - It's gonna happen. Licenses will expire and neither Codemasters nor EA is going to invest in them again. Especially not the latter party, as they've clearly already pulled Codemasters from the "Dirt Rally" series (and so I doubt there will be any update to DR2) and onto WRC, probably to churn out a game every year now. - The latest WRC(23) will probably be unavailable by the time WRC28 comes out.
If you couldn't tell, I have no faith in EA when it comes to these types of games whatsoever. - EA Sports is one of the worst divisions in gaming and just products in general.
vr update is coming btw
@@twistedttea yes, I hope it's as good or better then DR2.
Many years ago I supported rFactor 2 in ErlyAccess, now rFactor 2 is still a construction site without equal and they have the nerve to bring the same thing again under a different name as ErlyAccess... and the SimRacingWorld is cheering - crazy world that is 😎
I'm glad I never brought the rFactor games. Tempted to pirate them just to try it out tho.
Great overview! I am guessing there was a timing issue with the IMSA/Reiza announcement and when you recorded this video. Another win for the Endurance racing fans
Yes the worst timing! Not only IMSA, also the AC2 and ACC announcements, Rennsport and RaceRoom as well. Things move fast, but seems like my update proceeded a huge news week😂
@@raceanywhere Plenty to cover in a follow up video 🤣
Well I have been doing SIM racing for 25-30 years, and I don't take any of this too serious. The AI in all the racing games are never going to behave like human online competitive racing. The AI are used to try out the tracks and something to practice against offline.
Each Racing game has its good and bad features and none of them are ever going to be perfect and be like real life racing. They are GAMES people!!!!!!
Talke a look at what kind of games we had 15-20 years ago. And now compare what we have now. Everyone seems to complain too much on each and every little nit picking feature.. I enjoy what we have - Racing games have come a long ways and will only get better.
Take care.
Thanks for the very informative video , my go to sim is AC with CM and I still think all others are playing catch up. The user created content is unparalleled. I hear people raving on about how good IRacing is but it's out of my price range as I guess it is for many others. I am disabled and race from my bed with a modified Wooden console table on wheels which rolls over my bed and the flat screen TV , computer and wheel base is all fitted to it. The pedals sit on a wooden flat base that is stopped from moving by the beds foot board. The information on sim racing you and some others have posted has helped me so much. Thanks for that. My very best wishes Brian aka g0rlbm.
Really appreciate the comment, your setup sounds awesome given your constraints! Returning best wishes to you, see you on track Brian!
Might be worth reaching out to them. You might be able to get a discounted subscription if they knew your circumstance. I honestly believe Iracing is the most accurate as long as you get out of the lower classes. Some people just arent prepared to treat sim racing like real life. Coming from a track driver and a life of racing (MX5, R53, and life of racing shifter karts - 99 CRF125, RoK and Rotax Sr), it amazes me the dumb sh*t people do online. Just no care in the world for other drivers...
Anyways, hope to see you over on Iracing
Nice video. It would be cool if we could get some VR racing news as well. 😉
Great overview!
Do you have any insights about upcoming simracing hardware or is this not something you cover?
Hi Thomas, Thanks! Hardware is a little more complicated because selling hardware is what the Race Anywhere business is built on. So of course, we have to be sensitive around this subject as we don't sell every product out there. Easy to do something like this for games as we don't sell them. :)
However, worth noting that we will do some hardware focused content in the near future, but it will be of a different nature to this. Will certainly hope to make these a semi-regular thing moving foward as well.
@@raceanywhere ah I didn’t know that. Thanks for the info 👍🏻
I think the biggest area of improvement is race control across all sims. Better algorithms to punish bad drivers who treat sims like video games to play bumper cars are needed. Once race controls are able to weed out bad apples and allow serious sim racers to compete in a clean environment, the hobby will transcend
Wahey good to see you back. Any track guides on the horizon for ACC ? (Nords / rbr)
Driver61 has made a very good track guide for the Nordschleife. It is for the irl track tho but doesn’t really matter. It is also a very long vid but that just proves that it has every thing that you need for it. For Spielberg just watch a CZcams vid.
If GTRevival is everything they say it is, it'll be my favorite racing game ever. A modernized and expanded version of GTR2? It would be a knockout. But I don't trust a word that comes out of Ian Bell's mouth so I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
Great video once again mate, what make are those gloves they look awesome.
Thanks very much! These are Sabelt Sim Racing gloves 😊
Fantastic video, thank you. I have been plugging away with Gran Turismo and am now looking for the next step. You've given me some great ideas. Cheers.
Great to hear! Hope you enjoy whatever you try next 🙂
I think there's a good chance it will be Assetto Corsa, probably with the British GT pack@@raceanywhere
It's always gets bigger and better, as my time for it shrinks and shrinks.
😢 Hopefully you will have more time again in future, and it will be even better by then 🙏
Great video but one thing was bugging me the whole time. Why is your wheel not clamped onto the wheelbase
In my focus on recording the video I didn't even spot that. all was working fine on my end😂
LMU has been a blast this year, its great to finally have a well package sim to jump into and race online, 110% agree with the "I want more" factor it gives you, something that iRacing had the opposite affect on me over the years, and to the point that even with the rain update It has lost me a long time player.
I'm worried about AC2 at this point. With it supporting mods from the get go, I suppose it will just be a new sandbox sim for casual racing, cruising and drifting, not that its a bad thing but LMU and iRacing has proven that competitive online sims with no modding works better. I like sim racing because it puts me in a realistic competitive situation and unfortunately with out that AC2 already exists with AC1
I think a lot of information will come out relatively soon, so hopefully it's not too long before we all know a bit more about what AC2 will look like. Glad to hear you are enjoying LMU, my thinking is it can only get better from here. Just need to see more features and less bugs before the playbase loses interest in the limited current options!
Great video! Very good recap of what's happened this year so far!
Glad you enjoyed it! So much more has already come to light this week, so I may well start taking notes… Maybe this can become a more regular thing.
Excellent work on this one! Subbed!
Much appreciated! Welcome 😄
Automobolista I need to try this SIM
Very Well made! Really enjoyed this one 🤩🤩
Great to hear, thanks for the comment!😊
good to see you again John.
Thanks for joining! Welcome to Race Anywhere 😄
To add another comment. Yes, I am not holding my breath on the new game coming out - Assetto Corsa Evo (2). Will it be a good sequel to the original game AC 1, or will it be like a Project Cars 3 which was a disaster for most people. Time shall Tell and I will wait for all the reviews to come out on the released game on how good/bad it will be.
Will Assetto Corsa Evo even come out this Summer, we will find out. It may be an early release type game like many others in the past.
I really enjoy AC 1 as it is now with all the mods, tracks, and cars. And new things come out for it every day.
take care.
Could you do an entire video about racing in BeamNG? I host a racing series and would like to hear your opinions.
While the competition amongst developers will push our beloved hobby forward is great, I'm also a bit concerned all these titles will dilute what is a very niche market. I suspect some of these will fall by the wayside as a result, especially with the similar type of content.
Racing games in general even motorbikes I can sense will just continue to get better for the future
6:30 A personality?
great video, next up a hardware look at 2024 as well?
Thanks very much, it's appreciated! With hardware it's a little more complicated, as we sell hardware at Race Anywhere, so we have to be sensitive about content surrounding it. Not an issue with games etc. as we don't sell those. However, we will certainly be doing some hardware focused content in the near future, just likely not in the same format as this video :)
2024 looks like a really exciting year. Let the HYPE begin. 😁
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Still waiting for LMU VR and WRC VR
Yes, new simracing titles not having VR support in 2024 is just unacceptable
can someone please explain how anyone can drive with a 90deg flat base with no angle. wonder how one wrist feel after 10min of jamming and with that angle you have no steering stability just wonky wheel like this dude doing on kyalami. how do you drive like that it make no sense to a point that you tell me what car has such a straight angle. when F4 cars and many other open wheel cars are 30deg angle on the wheel.......
This is before the asseto corsa evo announcement top
And now AC Evo has been revealed 😮
VR is the gamechanger, After trying just the Quest 2, And the Quest 3 is meant to be a world better, Even so though VR is staggering, AMS 2, Dirt Rally 2, Fantastic, Dirt Rally 2 got VR looking and driving great, I can honestly see monitors and TV prices drop with the Quest and Big screen, The Quest has just changed the entertainment industry, I mean being able to have a set of decks and bust a mix in a VR world, Beam NG, Is another what I think a big hitter in the Sim World, The FFB on Beam NG for me is the closest I have felt to what I think real life driving is, lol, Neche subject, But with VR coming out now as stand alone, It won't be long before we see a stand alone VR with 4090 specs, You got those small ass PC's, And even fan less PC's that is tiny, So yeah it will not be long before VR gets crazy impressive, It will be hard not to release a Sim title that is not VR capable, Like I said even just the Quest 2 and a VR PC, And your Sim Racing opens up on a whole new level, I have read so many comments praising the Quest, Meta have opened up the future, Watch how powerful Meta becomes in the next few years, Even driving instructors will be worried,, Dri8ving instructors can actually work from home, So how long will it be before driving instructors start working from home using the Motion Sim and a Pimax 12k, lol, Giving people ideas here, I should keep my hands from typing this out, lol, ETS 2 can be used with VR to teach people to Park Lorries still sitting in the office, I am surprised delivery companies have not even tried using VR to teach people to drive lorries, Your CV is your You tube ETS 2 channel, I can drive in the UK and in Europe, Just watch my You Tube, Telling the interviewer make sure you subscribe, lol, Jokes aside VR or Meta have just opened up crazy ways for people who can't get out, To be able to learn, Speak to people as an avatar, I know someone who is getting a quest just to do the avatar stuff, But for Sim Racing VR have changed it completely, I got the Elite strap with a 500mAH battery from WaveVR, For the price, Brilliant, Makes the headset so you can wear it comfortably and play the VR for about 8 hours when linked with the Airlink cable, So all in all, You do have to pay for the extra's But even then it is still worth getting, Dirt Rally 2 is staggering, And to be able to race on AMS 2 in multiplayer in VR is mind blowing, Don't mention you is doing VR though, People leave the room, lol, I have noticed more people in just the last week going to VR, Or VR in the persons name, In a few years time it will be hard pressed to find Sim Racers not doing VR, I get that feeling, At least PC monitors will have to come down in price, Even TV's with the Big Screen app, Changes the entertainment industry, I can see Glastonbury doing VR rooms for people who can't get there, And for people who don't feel safe in a big crowd like myself, Before I got CPTSD, I used to go out hitting the clubs with my Brother, But now clubbing is just to dangerous, I am not kidding when I say you can get attacked in nasty ways from just looking at a girl wrong, Or even speaking to a girl, So now for people like myself, I can now go places without even leaving the living room, For me that is mind blowing....
Do you ever do VR Sim racing?
IRacing Is the most realistic sim when it comes to driving realism
the iRacing Formula 4 do in fact have wet tires and they are quite nice. good video tho
I was talking about the Formula “Ford”, so the FF1600 in iRacing that I was driving. Sorry for the confusion!😊 Glad you enjoyed the video.
2024 in sim racing ?
We´re looking good so far :)
Sim racing is great this year, many options but still not enough oddly enough
Hopefully the competition continues to push everything forward!
Thanks for the video
You are welcome!
Jeeez, iRacing is the most expensive one but it looks like something from early 2000.. And that rain/wet looks awful
Game is from 2008 to be fair. But on the good site of thinks iRacing is the most realistic sim that exists for the public at the moment
Also why do you think the rain looks awful? Because you can’t see anything when ur behind another car? That’s just realistic and how it is irl you can’t really see anything in the rain when ur following another car. I mean the reflections are at least decent. iRacing is just more focused on driving realism than it is on graphics. But with the driving realism and tracks in the game you definitely get what you pay for.
@@bxnjiiii7981 looks outdated AF. Considering how much money they want they could make the game look modern
@@veryrudeguy as i Said before they’re trying to make the game look better.
iRacing, although it might seem like a lot, is currently at a fair price when you take into consideration how many people work for iRacing and the amount of effort those people but into making iRacing better. iRacing is just about driving realism and not about good graphics. Also do you know a game from 2008 with good graphics
@@bxnjiiii7981 I began my Simracing journey with iRacing.. Loved the carrer/ranking or what ever it's called.. But it would cost me over 100usd just to get everything for Mazda cup... Just mazda cup +subscription. If it would look like ACC, no problem... But the way it looks... I just can't justify. Obviously you have spent many hundreds it that game and you need to justify it. That's fine. It's not a bad sim racing.. But in 2024 it looks awful. Whenever I see iRacing next to other games.. I just can't...
Not sure what's wrong with EA WRC, although the then engine is rendering a quite soft and mushy 3d world. Even on Ultra on a RTX4070 the detail and sharpness isn't there.
This happened with the switch to UE.
Something similar happens with ACC but it's way less noticeable and managed better in the settings.
Also after coming from AC and ACC the tarmac feels horrible on WRC. Feels like I'm driving on rails and when turning the car rotates in the middle as it had a pivot point.
It's sad to say, but I wish I didn't purchase it!😢
A great feature would be adding a realism mode with a proper complex physics for the cars.
all rally games have massive flaws, this is depressing
i saw a video a lil while ago that said something like "sim racing is in its prime right now" this time right now will be those days we look back on as the good ol days, especially with everything out right now
It certainly feels in a good spot, but who knows what's around the corner! Everyone will have a different period they look on with nostalgia as the best generation, I'm sure this will be it for many 🙌
Ummmm they announced tons about AC 2 at the same time they announced the new ACC dlc.
I only spotted the announcment briefly when switiching games, lots of news came out between the recording and video being published... Typical!😅 Also AMS2 announced their IMSA partnership, we have a date for RaceRoom's Pau release and Rennsport unveiled their 2024 roadmap. Think I might have to do a follow-up some time...
@@raceanywhere, please do. Honestly, there's probably enough sim racing content to do a monthly update at this point. It would also cut down on video length and boost channel visibility.
I wish Raceroom was mentoned at least. I prefer it to Automobilista but that's just me.
There wasn’t match happening with RaceRoom at the time, but soon after they released Pau and we gave it a full video 😊 - czcams.com/video/rC8oQO0XqnM/video.htmlsi=6N1fCDZHZB-beOjt
Getting better for pc console is just a desert
Surely someone else has to be sick of hearing about Rennsport???
They basically came put of the gate with a game almost no one could play, but that didn't stop them from going hard into the esports. I couldn't not care even the slightest about an esports event for a game no one can play.
They advertised the esports more than the game itself. Just get the game finished and if it's good, maybe then we'll care about your esports.
You can have all the best physics, graphics, and simulation you want.
But if your game does not have a compelling dynamic career mode, it will never be a deeper experience.
That's why the f1 games have such a big market. For me, I love a good career mode.
My own car, my own driver, my own upgrade choices. I just wish it had all that, and was more of a sim.
Code masters being apart of EA ended that games realistic hopes of being interesting for Sim racers
Iracing wether system is grest but they once again go ahh we are making all month 70% of rain. Then after it will be like a real forecast done by an algorithm and done based of off something like a real weather system so guess what? It's based on past races on these events and tracks but guess what again? That means more rain then not still! Horrible mistake imo they don't need to mske the weather system realistic that's just to much imo. Just do half and half call it a day I think it was a ridiculous move on there part.
Also we saw they changed the name from ac2 to evo and still said 2024 so its def launching sooner then later. That was the last dlc and update for acc also. Thank god acc is dialed in even on console guys I was shocked.
Me catching up with games from a decade ago: "Alright then..."
10:56 You mean get other people to make the game for them.
What's going on here then... traxion become race anywhere... ??
Why do people play ACC over AC? You can't drive H pattern road cars, it gets a bit boring.
ACC Nords on the 1st of April..... April fools day 🤔
As long as the EAs F1 game is the main platform for esports its gonna remain a joke . The silence around AC2(evo) is really ominous, I hope its great.
EA WRC is one of the worst pieces of software Ive seen in my life, and lets be real if the best rally game out there is 20 years old and you couldnt match it let alone surpass it, you are killing the genre.
The tricky thing with E-Sports for sim racing specifically, is that real racing exists already, and is more exciting to follow/watch.
It’s not like I can watch IRL Apex Legends or something lol
Totally agree. The main/unique selling point of sim racing is being able to do something similar to a relatively inaccesible and expensive sport. Anybody can enjoy watching racing, those barriers don't exist.
LMU is not that buggy, and with the latest patches perhaps it can be forgiven given its early access status... so far one of the most fun games to have, if only they would also provide 2024 season updates
AMS2 AI is worse than drink petrol
EA and F1 can get it! Im so over that BS...was league racing for 3-4 years and pulled the pin after F123. Over to iracing, ACC, Le mans and havent looked back
Sadly, at the end of the year simracers will only be in iracing, AC and ACC. You don't get out of your comfort zone
I wouldn't put Le Man's Ultimate aside! 😉
@@rr_reaperqc look at the numbers. The hype was there for a bit and player count has decreased with 50% since...
@marijn17s true, although hoping time will change this again!!
Im pretty sure ACC LFM/Simgrid and iRacing high irating sof races will have you out of your comfort zone
yeah and for rally it's rbr rallysimfans
I know I'm gonna get a ton of flak for this but: any news on a possible Wreckfest 2? Where it isn't necessarily considered a sim racing, that platform offers some of the most fun racing one can have, especially online (since the stupid AI always aims to corner bomb you). Sim racing doesn't have to be dull and dry like rFactor - fun should have its place and no racing game atm is more than WF. Of course, from all the flak I'm about to get a question for them: have you actually tried the game?
Zero flak deserved😂 Wreckfest is one of the most enjoyable games you can play using a sim rig! There isn't much out there yet on a potential Wreckfest 2, other than supposed leaks but I do know BugBear Entertainment is active so I guess we will find out eventually 🙂
Grab Turismo is yo daddy
The current state of sim racing is... GT racing (ಠ_ಠ)
Jesus Christ guys... there is other forms of racing than GT3!
Simracing is so insular and dry, i have a cockpit and wheel that i enjoy very much but I find the simracing community repulsive
Same, which is why I don't race online in public lobbies. Heck there is even toxicity in WreckFest. I race with friends in private and have a great laugh.
There are decent folk out there, but the toxic morons seem to shout the loudest and drown them out.
The best thing so far is Rennsport has been quiet. Genuinely the worst sim out now
Hahah and added the Mission R, like, Why???!
EA ruins everything it touches.
i dont get it .. why do people call all these titles sims ?
They are not sims , the only simulator you really have with laserscanned tracks and cars is iRacing.
All the other titles are more games not really a worthy simulator.
iRacing is certainly right up there in terms of realism, but I'd say there are a lot more titles that fall into that same category. It comes down to personal preference, some racing drivers find one more realistic, others disagree. Many of the big titles these days also fully utilize laser scanning. 🙂
Pretty sure all the content in ACC is laser scanned too.
after your failed EA WRC predictions, paid sponsorships, and fallen trust, did you start a new channel? No I won’t be here.
EA WRC is shit, iRacing is dead, AMS 2 is great but limited, rF2 is f(*$#^d, AC is the same, ACC has resorted to price gouging.... what else is there?
AMS2 is the worst of all Simracing Games.Its way to expensive and has the Worst feel!
Wait for summer and get a discount, also remember AMS2 doesn’t have the resources that most of their other competitors do
Agree it has the worst physics by far. I would just call it PC 2.5 tbh, simcade more than sim. Content can be cheap if you get it on sale though. 50% off every time there is a sale. Only bought tracks as the game is garbage when it comes to physics IMO.
Funny how Iracing looks like crap 😂
Still the far superior driving experience 😊
@@sh1nyGT Compared to what? maybe the online experience, not the driving experience
@@ommachining154tf? Iracing is the most realistic simulator availiable DRIVING WHISE
@@bxnjiiii7981 i totally disagree, ac ffb is 10 times better, ams2 graphics are 10 times better.... you seems to defend with your investment of money, without 0 logic behind your thoughts 🤣
@@ommachining154 Iracing ffb is the best, graphics lack a lot, but driving wise is Iracing definitely the best sim out there. So do I and 80% of actuall Simracers agree. And most of acctual Race car drivers think so too. Also I don’t currently play iRacing cause it’s hella expensive, but I have played it and it is the best you can have. If you don’t think so you must be playing Mario Kart and not sim games
Sim racers are spoilt for choice. I find myself sometimes just sitting idle for hours, trying to figure out what I want to play😅
It's a good problem, but a problem nonetheless. We can all relate I am sure😂
You forgot IRACING being the dominator of all sim racing and being the best out of ALL of this GARABGE You noted....
iRacing is very much overrated
😂😂😂😂
I in the name does not make it better.
First one was almost correct. Second one complete load of bollocks.
😅🤣😂