Election Unspun: How to Win Power
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- Looking at every election since 1979, the film uses interviews with key political players, as well as archive, to chart the changing face of campaigns since the first days of Thatcher. Over the years, politicians have discovered that being frank about the problems Britain faces can lose votes and so the message has gradually narrowed to safe areas that won’t scare the electorate.
Transmitted on Channel 4, 18 April 2005. If you're wondering why it's not available in 50fps, the original programme was made with a field removed effect to make it all 25fps.
Anyone else get a major nostalgia hit from that channel 4 bumper?
Yes
Yes
Yes, immediately. I'd forgotten it until now
Isn't it amazing how quickly some lessons are lost?
Which lessons?
@@andrewrobinson8305 So many things across the board. Each time that a party wins or loses an election, there are lessons to be learned.
THANK YOU! I've been trying to find this online for ages!
Love this channel, also great seeing all those ads from back in the day too!
*Narrator* Michael Foot wasn't the last Prime Ministerial candidate who would say, "I would rather be right than Prime Minister"
@Casey Wander neither Corbyn nor foot was right. And neither was PM either.
Politics has moved on from even this point. The neo-liberal left are void of support and ideas, “one nation” Conservatism is dead and funnily enough left wing policies are actually popular. Most policy polls show huge support for renationalising railways, increased taxation, more money for public services. The funniest thing is, is that this current crop of cynical Conservatives have realised this and are pivoting to some of these more left wing policy platforms.
@@sambrooke4025 Now Sunaks tax like Blair's
@@veggie42 Much Much Higher.
@@brianwarden7250 I meant Brown*
A true portent of things to come....
53:00 Roy Hattersley: 'We need more ideological politics'. Give it 10 to 15 years Roy, and we'll have more ideological politics than even you can stomach!
This was made in 2005 - no one could have imagined the world we live in now 2020
@@johnking5174 unless you count Bradbury, Orwell, and Huxley.
The end foreshadowed Brexit lol
And the 2019 election result
Churchill
Thank you from the USA for your uploads! Do you happen to have The Major Years Part 2?
@17:12 I wonder where the full broadcast is featuring the late John Smith.
How do the Americans like our Channel 4 New York scene, fancy wasn't it? 😁
Dorries flogging her 4 off.... Maggie again turning in her grave as well at Sunak spending
Neil Kinnock’s campaign was the first time I’d heard the phrase ‘presidential style’
When I saw the promo, I wondered why the backdrop was New York City. Then I watched the show. It wasn't a "19th Century president who said, 'I'd rather be right than president.'" It was Goldwater, who ran in 1964 and was never president.
14:17 ludicrous positions like getting out of Europe😅😅😅
Tim Bell, whose advertising agency represented General Pinochet amongst other revolting clients, really was an absolute king prize shit.
Dbdbe1 yes, indeed, and the opposition needs to be tough to compete with such people.
Maggie and co liked him..She visited him and adopted his monetarism
Regulating the city! You crazed lefties, what a mad idea!
2008: May I introduce myself
What made you decide to record all these things.
not sure what year this broadcast was from - looks like the early 2000s - but certainly in recent years the likes of crosby and cummings have come along and changed all the rules regarding political campaigning. Now thanks to people like them there are no rules and anything goes.
It says in the description. 18 April 2005.
@@DBIVUK Reading is hard.
Thatcher despised being framed as a housewife. She thought it was beneath her.
The Guilty Men by Michael Foot and Mouth, it really was...
19:08 Not quite right, Bob. Corbyn 2019.
Is that Corbyn at 24:50?.
Such a shame that John Smith died so early - he would have brought the Labour Party into the 21st century, instead - Neil Kinnock!!!!!
Yes. I was at work experience cleaning toilets when I heard he died..I was upset I was only 14 and vowed to vote Labour as soon as old enough..However learnt about Blair's Third Way and was put off. Generating capital to invest in welfare and into work..Shame that didn't seem to happen when Brown was in power.
Turnout INCREASED at every election from 2005 to 2017 (inclusive).
It only dropped so low in ‘97 & ‘01because the result was already a foregone conclusion in both those years, so a lot of people didn’t bother voting.
Nothing to do with that tired lazy old cliche about “politicians don’t listen to us” blah, blah, etc etc
Very true. Did voted in 97 but didn't in 01 as knew Labour won. Think I was at a night club dancing (miss those days) that night and only turned in the morning after wards to know what I knew already that Labour won again..,
Not according to this video: 50:00 "Labour won, but turnout was the lowest since WWII. Four years later it won again, but turnout was even lower."
Changed my vote in 2001. Greens.
Spot on.
Population increases, you know?
I dunno, if the place goes to absolute hell when a group of people go out on strike, maybe they deserve that pay rise they've been denied? 🤷♂️
Michael Foot in that Donkey jacket at the epitaph was just embarrassing. It defined his whole leadership thereafter
Really a labour politician standing in front of the British flags on a conference today even the tories barely do that.
KS did
Jeremy Corbyn 24:50
Great as New Labour were at marketing you can’t tell me anyone watched that advert in 97 without vomiting violently
Cameron and Red Ed copied him later...KS is more IDS/Hague/Major Dull Fade to Grey not interesting
The witch is dead.
The documentaries description of the voting patterns along class divides are not as simple as that. For starters Labour's contention against the Conservatives was that they would not sustain Labour's support for welfare programmes, except Churchill was not against welfare programmes (Remember he switched to the liberals.) and the Conservatives wanted to destroy the Labour argument by for example building many more houses (After this point homeowners, even poorer, ones became Conservative while those without did not.). It was in the '50s that the issue with the Labour Party being opposed to opportunity began not in the '80s which is why Hugh Todd Naylor Gaitskell wanted to get rid of Clause IV but Aneurin Bevan. The Conservative campaign of 1959 was supported by many workers as well because their wages were increasing with the boom so the socialist policies were not enticing.
Johnson, Macmillan and Heath very soft Tories..Churchill was Captain Beefheart
@@veggie42 Depends on what you mean by Tories then since agreeing with social services is not really that bad. I am fine with it and Macmillan is probably my favourite Post-War Prime Minister.
@@johnnotrealname8168 a shame Taunton to Minehead railwau was closed and is only a heritage line. Opening that would help and more freight using the lines
24:51 Focus groups "said Labour politicians even look too left wing." Freeze camera on Jeremy Corbyn.
No mention of the rise of the BNP at the end at the point when untrusted Tories and disappointing Labour parties caused a lot of people to latch onto protest, not to mention trying to hole our out of touch masters below the waterline on pet issues.
The BNP was important because despite the nasty place they came from, they arguably influenced public opinion more than leftist road-blockers and race rioters. A Sky poll found 54% of people agreed with BNP policies on things like Islamic extremism and that only went down to 49% when told whose policies they were.
Yes Asian riots around 2000s and BNP in OLDHAM etc
@@veggie42 Takes two to tango when it comes to nasty people and riots. Wasn't the BNP who rioted. Writing dodgy books and trying to arm football louts was more their arena back in the day.
So funny watching Churchill, one of the last centuries great orators grasping with ‘new fangled TV technology’😅
In 1983 the only 2 seats Labour gained where won by Tony Blair and Gordon Brown……
In fairness Dunfermline East was a new seat and Sedgefield had been Labour in the 60s and Early 70s and was also a resurrected seat in 83