I have an original black monster from 2005 or so. It is still great. I had to put some enamel paint on two of the black markers of the bezel next to the lume pip. I got two Heimdallr monsters. They are less finished, IMHO. For example, I cut my finger on the really sharp crown guard on one of them. The crown is kind of a grainy feel too. They have awesome lume though. For being so cheap, I can't complain
Very in depth and polished review😉 (No pun intended!) My suspicions have been confirmed, Hemidallr have really taken this homage thing to another level👍.Before I picked an Orange and Blue up, I bought a Heimdallr Pro-master Fugu in green about six months ago. I had previously owned the NY0040-09W fully lumed so had a good idea on the required fit and finish I felt the Heimdallr was good but not quiet Carling" But this however is a 98.9 out of a hundred beautiful watch.
I have one of each and enjoy wearing both of them. I honestly don't care about the minor differences because the Heimdallr has it's merits and my Seiko is unique...all that matters is I love them both. Good review!
Thanks for the comparison. I ordered a.tuna can to compare with my SBBN031 because I could never understand why it is so expensive; it's great quality but I don't think it's worth $1000+ .
🎼 I have bought 7 different Seiko Monster watches, plus 3 Seiko Frankenmonster's as well over many yrs. I recently saw the Himidallr for a little over $100.00 with a $20.00 dollar coupon. I'm so glad I did, saved a lot of dollars for basically the same watch. They do need more colors, but so far a great piece.
With Seikos QC issues, I'd rather buy the better watch. Seiko got me twice. Heimdallr all the way! I'm not buying another Seiko. Well, maybe the SRPC91 "IF" I get it in hand before I pay for it. Will not buy another misaligned Seiko.
Woohoo that notification bell actually works😂😂😂😂 Zeb is in Da House!!! Now this one Sir is Interesting as I own 3 x Gen 1 Seiko Monsters (2 Black and One Orange Dial) Why? Because they are a Prerequisite for any Seiko Collector but also A Classic Diver so I made sure I had Stock and also Just because I can😜 The Heimdallr Without Doubt is an impressive Homage and definitely has the Goods to compete with an Original Monster Gen 1 (Bar the Brand Name movement and slight Dial difference obviously) I can see you yourself are impressed and you’ve done yet another Superb VS Comparison👏👏👏Top Drawer As Always Sir.🙏🙏🙏⌚️ Now I’m just off to Blow the Dust off my Originals seeing as you’ve Promted me with this Video🙈😜
@@TheWatcherReviews Thank You Zeb Sir and Yes of course👍⌚️Loving It🙏🙏 Any Seiko Collector Could throw his 10cents in and Be Critical of any Homage Watch (which I won’t do) but my opinion is There’s Horses For Courses and not everyone has the means to buy Original Seikos anymore(Especially with their Price Hikes Lately) and regardless The Wheels on The Bus Go Round And Round😜
Both are so close that the Heimdallr isn't an homage anymore... This is an issue since it's a clear infringement of Seiko's intellectual property :-( Imagine that every Seiko model is cloned that far, it would lead to the death of great horological brands. No more R&D, since Seiko wouldn't be able to recoup their investment... I'm just wondering how far homage brands can go.
Well, the seiko gen 2 is out of production. If seiko offered the gen 2 with sapphire for even a bit more than the Heimdallr, I’m sure most people would go for the real thing.
They are both great, I have Seiko's and the Heimdallr. I will likely continue to purchase Seiko's, In fact I just purchased another Seiko. I want to go back and add a first Gen Black Monster
Lol Its an exact copy down to the font. They just have different names. Im not sure if Seiko can even go after them. They will just shut down and reopen under a different name.
Back up your statement about IP infringement with facts. With respect, you don’t know what you’re talking about. In order for there to be infringement, they would have to be a violation of someone’s copyright. Generally there are no copyrights on styles of watch faces and cases.
I consider buying the Heimdallr monster but instead I bought the two new fourth generation Save the Ocean Antarctica Monsters SBDY105 and SBDY115. I also added the Seiko baby tuna SBDY055. These three purchases definitely satisfied my Seiko monster itch or craving. I am still curious about these Heimdallr monsters though and they definitely seem legit . Thanks for another fantastic video. By the way I recently joined your Facebook watch group as well 👍🏻
You have missed some very important points with this comparison. I have owned 4 Monsters - The Original Black & Orange & The 2nd-Gen Dracula, & Black Monster. The 1st thing i noticed was the differences in the Cases between the Seiko Gen 1& Gen2 - Which IS - the Hoods on the cases. In the Gen1Black & Orange Monster, the hood, esp. at the 12 O'Clock position, the bit that pricks fingers is filed or smoothed round. On the Gen.2 Monsters it is sharp & Does prick fingers if you don't grip it right. Same with the Heimdallr. The Heimdallr IS A Nice Watch, sure, but the handset plus the odd-shaped lower scalloping on the bezel are A SURE Deal-Breaker for me. But your Videos arw VERY well done & your ReSearch us Impeccable!
Hey Bruce, thank you for that, yes i would assume there would have been a couple subtle differences between gen 1 & gen 2 but I have not owned a gen 2. I think the scallops are a nice touch as the gen 4 has even narrower almost bullet tip scallops. Ultimately yes the heimdallr has been done to a very high level. Thank you for your comments Bruce, appreciate them and always appreciate input from genuine enthusiasts!
Nice vid. I notice that PVD versions of the heimdallr are now being sold on aliexpress... haven't seen one with a PVD bracelet though. When they do that (maybe they already have), I can say goodbye to another chunk of cash!
I don't know much about Heimdallr. But what a great looking watch. The bracelet is great, the indices give the watch a Benarus Megalodon look. Also they have made a real effort with the case back. I am tempted by the orange 'Tony the Tiger' dial. THEY'RE GRRRREAT!
Great comparison man, it is noticeable tho that in the Heimdallr the bezel does not align with the bottom of the watch but its not such a big deal, especially for the price. I am really excited to get my orange one already.. still hasn't shipped :(
@@TheWatcherReviews Yup, as I said, not a big deal. Just hope my watch will arrive with no problems and a non defected one, maybe because its still on the assembly line they might change some of the small issues like the lumed pip or the sharp edges.
heimdallr masters every seiko. unless you want mineral glass and a stamped clasp. heimdallr even has better lume & price the heimdallr monster ALSO comes with a spring bar tool, link removal tool AND a 20mm nato strap!!!!!
The squarer grooves instead of the funnel shapes on the heimdallr are the result of better machining. The heimdallr bezel grooves are quite far out of alignment with the grooves in the case as well. This lets the watch down.
I doubt that they have the right to put diver's 200m on the dial. Do you think that they really test it to ISO specifications? Probably just copied the text to make this clone more similar to the real deal...
@@TheWatcherReviews Of course, but I wish these homages didn't do such silly things, especially when they cater to a western market. San Martin literally had 'submariner' printed on the dial on one of their models, I mean come on. :D
Got the heimdallr monster a few days now ( red dial version ) and absolutely love it! Only problem is I can't remove bracelet links.. when I push the pin it stops halfway? I don't want to push too hard incase I bend/break the pins... Did you have any problems removing links/sizing the bracelet?
You need pliers and yank them out. They stop due to the collar. Everyone hates the pin collar system. If you're not confident then take it to timpsons or a jewellers
@@TheWatcherReviews I’ve adjusted my seiko watches that use pin and collar easily .... does the collar on the heimdallr stay in when you pull the pin out with pliers?
Heimdallr and San Martin are the same watch. You pay more for the San cause you think it is better quality....it is not. The Heimdallr, Steel Dive and Sans are made in the same factory.
They're definitely not and there is a clear cut difference. San martin are made in the lugyou factory. Let's say they are all made in the same place, but they are different in finishing. You get what you pay for, so the finishing isn't the same across all three brands. Some watches maybe very similar but on the whole, there is a difference. Steeldive and heimdallr have the same cases on some watches but again, not all
Tons of microbrands give you much more value for the money now days than seiko. Seiko no longer is the brand punching above its value. They sell too much shit to care.
Good review sir.your review is very good .heimdallr also introduce new Seiko spb,187 with 41mm and 48mm and with same height of spb-187 and also introduce formex 39mm essence with braclet with movement nh35 and moyota 9015 andpt5000movement with signed crown for all new watches. And always use heimdallr name on the front instead of shark .
Heimdallr Monster, the watch Seiko should have made!
Nice review! Never apologize for the condition of a well loved watch.... it has its own story to tell.
I have an original black monster from 2005 or so. It is still great. I had to put some enamel paint on two of the black markers of the bezel next to the lume pip. I got two Heimdallr monsters. They are less finished, IMHO. For example, I cut my finger on the really sharp crown guard on one of them. The crown is kind of a grainy feel too. They have awesome lume though. For being so cheap, I can't complain
I just received the heimdollr beast as a gift.
Great video
Very in depth and polished review😉 (No pun intended!) My suspicions have been confirmed, Hemidallr have really taken this homage thing to another level👍.Before I picked an Orange and Blue up, I bought a Heimdallr Pro-master Fugu in green about six months ago. I had previously owned the NY0040-09W fully lumed so had a good idea on the required fit and finish I felt the Heimdallr was good but not quiet Carling" But this however is a 98.9 out of a hundred beautiful watch.
I have one of each and enjoy wearing both of them. I honestly don't care about the minor differences because the Heimdallr has it's merits and my Seiko is unique...all that matters is I love them both. Good review!
Brilliant comparison watcher
Looks like a took a break at just the right time....fresh video. Great comparison man!
And hey man those micro shots were great! 👍🏼👍🏼
@@dinner_workingsly thank you man, took the microscope for a spin
Thanks for the comparison. I ordered a.tuna can to compare with my SBBN031 because I could never understand why it is so expensive; it's great quality but I don't think it's worth $1000+ .
Fantastic review! Great to see it matched up against the real thing! Can’t wait to get my hands on one of these heimdallr monster homages!
🎼 I have bought 7 different Seiko Monster watches, plus 3 Seiko Frankenmonster's as well over many yrs. I recently saw the Himidallr for a little over $100.00 with a $20.00 dollar coupon. I'm so glad I did, saved a lot
of dollars for basically the same watch. They do need more colors, but so far a great piece.
With Seikos QC issues, I'd rather buy the better watch. Seiko got me twice. Heimdallr all the way! I'm not buying another Seiko. Well, maybe the SRPC91 "IF" I get it in hand before I pay for it. Will not buy another misaligned Seiko.
Woohoo that notification bell actually works😂😂😂😂 Zeb is in Da House!!!
Now this one Sir is Interesting as I own 3 x Gen 1 Seiko Monsters (2 Black and One Orange Dial) Why? Because they are a Prerequisite for any Seiko Collector but also A Classic Diver so I made sure I had Stock and also Just because I can😜
The Heimdallr Without Doubt is an impressive Homage and definitely has the Goods to compete with an Original Monster Gen 1
(Bar the Brand Name movement and slight Dial difference obviously) I can see you yourself are impressed and you’ve done yet another Superb VS Comparison👏👏👏Top Drawer As Always Sir.🙏🙏🙏⌚️
Now I’m just off to Blow the Dust off my Originals seeing as you’ve Promted me with this Video🙈😜
Haha yes exactly, any seiko collector does ofcourse need a seiko monster at their disposal. I can see you're having a good time with these reviews!!
@@TheWatcherReviews Thank You Zeb Sir and Yes of course👍⌚️Loving It🙏🙏
Any Seiko Collector Could throw his 10cents in and Be Critical of any Homage Watch (which I won’t do) but my opinion is There’s Horses For Courses and not everyone has the means to buy Original Seikos anymore(Especially with their Price Hikes Lately) and regardless The Wheels on The Bus Go Round And Round😜
Both are so close that the Heimdallr isn't an homage anymore... This is an issue since it's a clear infringement of Seiko's intellectual property :-(
Imagine that every Seiko model is cloned that far, it would lead to the death of great horological brands. No more R&D, since Seiko wouldn't be able to recoup their investment...
I'm just wondering how far homage brands can go.
Well, the seiko gen 2 is out of production. If seiko offered the gen 2 with sapphire for even a bit more than the Heimdallr, I’m sure most people would go for the real thing.
They are both great, I have Seiko's and the Heimdallr. I will likely continue to purchase Seiko's, In fact I just purchased another Seiko. I want to go back and add a first Gen Black Monster
Lol Its an exact copy down to the font. They just have different names. Im not sure if Seiko can even go after them. They will just shut down and reopen under a different name.
Back up your statement about IP infringement with facts. With respect, you don’t know what you’re talking about. In order for there to be infringement, they would have to be a violation of someone’s copyright. Generally there are no copyrights on styles of watch faces and cases.
I consider buying the Heimdallr monster but instead I bought the two new fourth generation Save the Ocean Antarctica Monsters SBDY105 and SBDY115. I also added the Seiko baby tuna SBDY055. These three purchases definitely satisfied my Seiko monster itch or craving. I am still curious about these Heimdallr monsters though and they definitely seem legit . Thanks for another fantastic video. By the way I recently joined your Facebook watch group as well 👍🏻
Thanks Joseph for joining! Love the baby tuna watches
been waiting for this, cheers my friend a great watch still.....and a great review as usual, respect....
You have missed some very important points with this comparison. I have owned 4 Monsters - The Original Black & Orange & The 2nd-Gen Dracula, & Black Monster. The 1st thing i noticed was the differences in the Cases between the Seiko Gen 1& Gen2 - Which IS - the Hoods on the cases. In the Gen1Black & Orange Monster, the hood, esp. at the 12 O'Clock position, the bit that pricks fingers is filed or smoothed round. On the Gen.2 Monsters it is sharp & Does prick fingers if you don't grip it right. Same with the Heimdallr. The Heimdallr IS A Nice Watch, sure, but the handset plus the odd-shaped lower scalloping on the bezel are A SURE Deal-Breaker for me. But your Videos arw VERY well done & your ReSearch us Impeccable!
Hey Bruce, thank you for that, yes i would assume there would have been a couple subtle differences between gen 1 & gen 2 but I have not owned a gen 2. I think the scallops are a nice touch as the gen 4 has even narrower almost bullet tip scallops. Ultimately yes the heimdallr has been done to a very high level. Thank you for your comments Bruce, appreciate them and always appreciate input from genuine enthusiasts!
Really great comparison. Thanks for making this. 👍 👍
Outstanding! Thank you for this review.
Nice vid. I notice that PVD versions of the heimdallr are now being sold on aliexpress... haven't seen one with a PVD bracelet though. When they do that (maybe they already have), I can say goodbye to another chunk of cash!
Let battle commence !!!!!
Great review as always,prefer the Heimdallr myself on sheer bang for buck ,they are frightening close now
I don't know much about Heimdallr. But what a great looking watch. The bracelet is great, the indices give the watch a Benarus Megalodon look. Also they have made a real effort with the case back. I am tempted by the orange 'Tony the Tiger' dial. THEY'RE GRRRREAT!
This is a homage to the seiko generation 2 monster dive watch, slowly becoming a very sought after classic
When it comes to the gen 1 Seiko monster vs gen 2, the only differences are: 1 the dial, 2 the crown, 3 movement (7S26 vs 4R36.
So like most of the watch. ;)
@@mrjasonrowland Exactly. If hacking and handwinding is important to you then you want the 4r36 or newer.
you forgot to compare research and development expense
Great comparison man, it is noticeable tho that in the Heimdallr the bezel does not align with the bottom of the watch but its not such a big deal, especially for the price. I am really excited to get my orange one already.. still hasn't shipped :(
The orange is banging!. ..not many bezels align at the bottom you know....we usually look at the top half when checking for alignment
@@TheWatcherReviews Yup, as I said, not a big deal. Just hope my watch will arrive with no problems and a non defected one, maybe because its still on the assembly line they might change some of the small issues like the lumed pip or the sharp edges.
Still waiting for mine. Paypal will hear from me soon. Great video as always...
Did you receive it? Mine took about 30 days.
I’d never buy a Heimdallr, Seestern or Steeldive. I hate these companies that spend nothing on R&D and just steal designs.
Nice comparison, will you pickup the PVD/strapped/bezel lummed versions?
Probably not the PVD options but different colours definitely
Great video bro. Informative review
im fine with my Heimdallr
heimdallr masters every seiko. unless you want mineral glass and a stamped clasp. heimdallr even has better lume & price the heimdallr monster ALSO comes with a spring bar tool, link removal tool AND a 20mm nato strap!!!!!
The squarer grooves instead of the funnel shapes on the heimdallr are the result of better machining. The heimdallr bezel grooves are quite far out of alignment with the grooves in the case as well. This lets the watch down.
I doubt that they have the right to put diver's 200m on the dial. Do you think that they really test it to ISO specifications? Probably just copied the text to make this clone more similar to the real deal...
China & copyright? Loool
Ofcourse they don't have the rights and nor are the ISO certified
@@TheWatcherReviews Of course, but I wish these homages didn't do such silly things, especially when they cater to a western market. San Martin literally had 'submariner' printed on the dial on one of their models, I mean come on. :D
@@infest409 welcome to the world of chinese 'homages', effectively they're AAA reps with a different name. Goochie instead of Gucci 🤣
How is the parts from the original. Are they compareable? Speaking about the crown, bezel etc...
Bezel no, crown no, dial, hands yes
Got the heimdallr monster a few days now ( red dial version ) and absolutely love it! Only problem is I can't remove bracelet links.. when I push the pin it stops halfway? I don't want to push too hard incase I bend/break the pins... Did you have any problems removing links/sizing the bracelet?
You need pliers and yank them out. They stop due to the collar. Everyone hates the pin collar system. If you're not confident then take it to timpsons or a jewellers
@@TheWatcherReviews I’ve adjusted my seiko watches that use pin and collar easily .... does the collar on the heimdallr stay in when you pull the pin out with pliers?
Yes
Both are equally good pro rata the price. However I agree the SAN Martin is nicer!
Heimdallr and San Martin are the same watch. You pay more for the San cause you think it is better quality....it is not. The Heimdallr, Steel Dive and Sans are made in the same factory.
They're definitely not and there is a clear cut difference. San martin are made in the lugyou factory. Let's say they are all made in the same place, but they are different in finishing. You get what you pay for, so the finishing isn't the same across all three brands. Some watches maybe very similar but on the whole, there is a difference. Steeldive and heimdallr have the same cases on some watches but again, not all
Tons of microbrands give you much more value for the money now days than seiko. Seiko no longer is the brand punching above its value. They sell too much shit to care.
Seiko needs to up its game.
Where is the best place to buy a Heimdallr from the UK?
Funny you ask that, drop me a mail
The.watcher2020@outlook.com
Just got in official stock from Heimdallr themselves.
Good review sir.your review is very good .heimdallr also introduce new Seiko spb,187 with 41mm and 48mm and with same height of spb-187 and also introduce formex 39mm essence with braclet with movement nh35 and moyota 9015 andpt5000movement with signed crown for all new watches. And always use heimdallr name on the front instead of shark .
Hi can you please tell me where I could purchase either watch? Cheers
Within the description you will find the link to aliexpress and the watch
ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
gen1 dial is better, and the hand wind/hacking is overrated.
No it really isn't over rated man
I'm going to sell my dracula monster and get the heimdallr monster in red. The rest can go into the bank.
I love mine. Why buy a seiko.