Were Chelsea right to sack Graham Potter?
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Chelsea have pivoted from their new long-term strategy by firing Graham Potter after a disappointing 2-0 defeat to Aston Villa left the club in the bottom half of the Premier League table. But was it all Potterâs fault, or are there others to blame for his dismissal? In this video, JJ Bull and Liam Twomey analyse what went wrong and question whether Chelsea made the right decision.
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I can't believe we're in the same season that saw Tuchel lose to Jesse Marsch's Leeds 3-0, and that infamous handshake with Conte (now all three managers sacked), and seeing Chelsea spend 600 mil over two transfer windows, AND now sacking the new manager already. This season feels like it's been two years long (in no small part to the World Cup, also).
kind of a crazy reminder, some of this stuff i could've sworn occurred last season because the wc messed up the time
it's been an absolutely wild season
As a Liverpool fan this season has definitely felt like 2-3 years!!
this reminds me of David Moyes at Man United. bring in a talented manager who made a smaller club look really good into a squad of big-salaries and big egos that also has some serious holes in the squad and a questionable ownership. give it a few years, and we will hear about what a great job graham potter is doing someplace else
meanwhile, chelsea still need to find a manager with a style they like, then probably say goodbye to 15 players this summer and buy another 5 players to fill in the gaps to actually play that style.
@@Antonio-hb8rd chelsea weren't in a crisis when Potter got hired though. Tuchel had won a champions league and then finished 3rd with a transitional roster
Nowhere near the same situation, but the situations have parallels.
Tuchel should have never been fired. Thatâs the difference. And the striker hole was Abuameyang who potter ostracized
There are some superficial parallels but this is nowhere close to being the same situation
Another example of 'a talented manager who made a smaller club look really good into a squad of big-salaries and big egos that also has some serious holes in the squad' is Setien at Barca. He failed at Barca after leaving Betis but is now again doing a good job at Villareal.
They were patient with him, until another young and highly rated coach suddenly became a available in Julian Nagelsmann
Enrique was available as well... But they're considering him a bit more now
"It got too painful JJ" I felt that
Couldnât spell it tho đ *Edit: TouchĂ©
Potter clearly wasnât helped by the bizarre transfers in the January transfer window - clear they needed a striker and backup wingbacks for James and Chilwell but ended up getting Felix (a 10) and no wingbacks.
i think potter didnt buy a wingback because his plans were to play a back 3
Aubameyang and Datro Fofana? Cucurella and Malo Gusto?
Potter had a say in ALL of those signings. The owners invested in a lot of problem positions in this squad to help him out especially with the injury crisis we had. It definitely didnât help squad harmony but all those signings have shown promise and flashes of improving the squad.
â@@RossyBwoithou technicacly correct, fofana wasnt a ready made choise and gusto stayed at Lyon
@@brothatisfunny Aubameyang was good enough, scored against Ac milan and showed promise. Datro fofana was also good in the limited minutes, good entries into the box and take on numbers. Neither of them used much at all
This was inevitable. Potter was in way over his head. But to be fair to him, even more experienced managers would have had issues when the owner is playing fantasy football with a real club roster. And buying players that don't fit the manager's needs didn't do him any favors. Worst part is Boehly's mismanagement has really put Chelsea in a financial straitjacket for years to come if a new manager can't sort out this roster and get a tune out of them.
We're like a poor man's PSG buying everyone but not the ones we need
Potter didn't become a bad manager overnight after he left Brighton. Indeed, he has been a success at every single previous club and previous league he's worked in. Hard to understand a rationale for firing him. Chelsea are not going to get relegated and they're not going to get European football either. They just need to get to the end of the season, reset, have a pre-season with their plethora new players so they'd have been as well off doing that with Potter as with any other manager.
â@@philc9473 sensible take. The only legitimate reason I can think of to sack Potter is if he lost the dressing room.
@@philc9473 oh piss off they a different between chelsea and potter former other clubs . One is managing a midtable team another is managing a top class team. The expectations are very different as one is very high standard the other is not .
@@philc9473 secondly what is this excuse of preseason. He couldn't turn it around for the seven months he was there . What makes u think he would be able to do that preseason. Thirdly ten hag didn't need a preseason at man u neither did unai emery at villa.
Itâs a real shame that Potter at Chelsea didnât work. Iâve always admired Potter and really wanted him to succeed. This is a really good video Tifo as it basically outlines that whilst Potter has to shoulder a lot of blame, the circumstances he has endured are crazy. Just because money has been spent on the squad doesnât mean the team is any better.
He just wasn't the right fit. Leaving Brighton to take over at Chelsea was too big a jump for Potter. He wasn't ready, and didn't have the wealth of managerial experience at the highest level to take on the Chelsea job effectively.
Yes, he had bad luck with injuries, but he never gave the impression that he knew what his preferred 11 was. I still don't think he knew what it was when he was sacked.
As for the bloated squad, I think the blame there lies more with Boehly than Potter. Chelsea need to offload players first BEFORE buying any more players in the summer.
But even as a Chelsea fan, I think the club need to have a transfer budget limit imposed on them. UEFA should do this as soon as this season ends; and overrule Boehly if he tries to protest.
At the end of the day Boehly needs to be 'reined in'. He is answerable to UEFA.....NOT the other way round. The sooner he understands this the better.
@@robtyman4281 The timing of Potters appointment is what hurt more than anything. The fact that people thought he would be able to turn a defensive, dead team at the end of Tuchels tenure into an attacking side midseason is crazy. And thats before considering all the injuries, 7 new players arriving and all the other changes inside the club. Potter also had found his best 11 mate, he stuck with the same team for a month now except a few positions he mostly had to change bc of injuries.
First time to ever hear that too many players made the coach fail. Other coaches will beg and scream for this number of players. The excuses will keep coming.
@Nahum777
True that. The Man City bench, Pep doesn't seem to have a problem with having 300 million on the bench. Carlo at Madrid too
@@meilyn22 No coach wants 30+ players to manage bro lol
It's going to be interesting to see how Chelsea's "identity" shifts in the near future. Before Boehly, it seems that everyone took them as a "Win now" club where the long-term project was its short-term success.
For all the talk Boehly profeted in his takeover about a long term project, the oddly long contracts, etc. the club ironically seems even more whimsical and grinding than during the Abramovich Chelsea. It's like one of those cheesy sitcom episodes where a character desperately tries to be someone they're not, only to fail catastrophically and ultimately end up reverting back to who they were.
Best description of the Boehly era I've ever seen, my kudos. They've spent a fortune and devolved in every way possible. Somehow they've gone from Pikachu to Pichu in record time.
A "long term project" wouldn't do all of this amortization meaning they can spend much less in the transfer market. And the big issue is how Chelsea was not a team in need of a rebuild project... They finished 3rd the previous season
@@moderatemapper9440 True, there was no need of such a drastic change. All the signings and the public discourse from Boehly, however, emphasised that it was a set of changes to guarante the club's success in the long term.
Regarding the amortization, I suppose they are assuming they will "balance the books" by offloading all the surplus of players they have. Whatever the reason, it all seems contradictory, to say the least.
please give us an analysis on how A.C. Milan won 4 - 0 against Napoli...
No matter what it's unacceptable to be sitting 11th after spending 600 mil over the last two transfer windows
600M on what and how is more important than just the total amount⊠The money spent during the summer was done without any sporting director for a coach who was quickly sacked⊠In January the money was spent on a lot of youngsters some who were overpricedâŠ
coming from someone who clearly watches Chelsea and knows ball.
"no matter what" statements are the death of nuanced thought.
@@lorenzomartinez8543 football fans arenât capable of nuance lol
@@Nick-ge7ug youâre not wrong but that team was underperforming no matter how you slice it
Even with the problems he had, there's no excuse for having your defenders, T. Silva, Koulibaly, Cucurella, Fofana, Badiashile, Chalobah playing so badly. These guys were all crazy good last year, under dif managers. Admittedly, that is too many first team defenders
6 center backs in a team that play 3 at the back isn't too bad?
This is becoming a perpetual cycle for Chelsea. At some point they need to realise sometimes its not the manager that is the issue, its the players who were bought in for way over their value and aren't at a level where they can perform at the standards Chelsea expect. This season alone they've had a manager who was overachieving and outperforming them at Brighton and a manager who won them the Champions League sacked due to lacklustre performances. Maybe if Boehly wasn't so eager for progress now instead of in the future seasons when they will eventually be better, Tuchel or Potter would be leading them to a higher level of success. Sometimes the club and the fans need to be patient, just like Arsenal were with Arteta, and then the results will come.
The only Chelsea manager to play with a 600 mil squad is potter so idk what ur really basing this onđ€
@@ballsballsballs3617 Chelsea invested nearly ÂŁ300 million this season solely for Tuchel before sacking him in September, and the season prior gave him Lukaku for nearly ÂŁ100 million, one of the best strikers in Europe the season prior who couldnât play to the standards expected of him. The issue isnât Potter and Tuchel as both are good managers itâs the fact that Chelsea are spending obscured amounts of money on players who either arenât ready (like Mudryk) or wonât perform (like Koulibaly or Lukaku). Maybe instead of Boehly sitting in Twitter spaces listening to who his fans want they should trust their recruitment. As you can see with Brighton getting Mitoma for under ÂŁ5 million and Arsenal getting Martinelli for ÂŁ6 million, you donât need to buy the most popular players that everyone is talking about to build a good squad, you need someone who is fit to go into the team and make everyone else better.
Just remember that player's cost isn't settled by the players and can also be a by-product of bad negotiating and timing. So not the coach or players to blame in my opinion.
Can't use Arsenal as a reference b/c at the point Arsenal were no longer a relevant big club - there is No huge club in Europe who are winning major trophies that would tolerate finishing 8th, 8th & 5th going into a 4th yr - Arteta would have Never made it past Boxing day of that 2nd season at any Top club & that's not a slight at Arsenal - it just was what it was..... I agree w/ your point about Boehly - he is a Disaster
But the reason Potter got the sack is b/c w/ Stadium Rebuild vs move now on the table Boehly can not simply ignore fan anger as is the case at other Top 6 clubs b/c Chelsea Supporters hold all the Leverage thru the CPO & CPO not only own the Freehold (Land Rights at Stamford Bridge) but CPO also own the name Chelsea Football Club Ltd & CPO lease that name back to the club under the sole condition that all home games are played at the Bridge
Boehly lawyers must have explained to the board that outrage spread through Chelsea's supporter base & it was not only directed at Potter but more so at Boehly & that he had no chance of influencing CPO to approve ANY move & this Ownership group need that extra Revenue
So it was not as simple as Patience or no Patience.... Many Chelsea supporters feel Boehly was forced upon us, is unqualified & view the CPO as a crowbar we can use to Force a Sale & get this incompetent BOehly group out...... So by Sacking Potter Boehly bought time & anothe opportunity to turn this around w/ a Top Manager but that might not be as easy as Boehly or many Chelsea fans think
So for Chelsea fans who feel relieved Potter is gone - which was easy to predict b/c Potter should have never been hired & imo No one is Happier w/ the sack then Potter..... But as Potter exits as the Scapegoat what no one seems interested in talking about is that Boehly & this Board have totally stripped a competent, professional, consistent major trophy producing Executive Structure built by Abramovich - who like it or not was an Experience Major Corporate Executive for Many years & a wildly Successful Governor of a region in Russia 10x the size of the UK
And Boehly - man who is rich on paper by using rich people's money to skim the credit swap market on American Wall St where ALL the rules favor the rich criminals b/c Wall St actually runs the US Gov - Boehly has Never run a single business in his life & that includes the LA Dodgers of which he was simply a minor investor b/c he was a former employee of the Dodgers Owner Marc Walter - but Boehly has replaced Abramovich's Exec structure w/ utter incompetence at Every Level....
Boehly has created such a mess at Chelsea & his decisions have been so schizophrenic that not a single top exec in European Football will even take his call & his reputation around the sport quickly devolved into that of a circus clown or court jester
Promising young talent signed haphazardly are wasting away on the bench watching their careers waste away - it's only a matter of time before many of these players demand a move elsewhere
This is why Chelsea fans better buckle up b/c I do not believe we will have our choice of a top manager - what Manager in their right mind would walk into this mess? Especially since it's clear the surrounding support structure is either totally incompetent or too inexperienced at this level to be any help?
I personally believe the reason Rudiger exited last summer was b/c his agent had a look into Boehly & realized the impending Doom - 10 months later Boehly is the laughingstock of European Football
(Apologies for the Length football friends)
@@jackzeldon2883 thank you for your comment. Your POV and information is something I never thought, and knew about.. Wow!
I see some people being too harsh on Potter. At the end of the day Potter was sacked for the same reason as why Tuchel was sacked : Not scoring enough goals. He was a manager thrown into a dumpster fire which he didnt have time to extinguish. People can say that he might've not been the right man and that may as well be true but 600 Mil ( mostly of very Young players) , a squad filled with people not good enough and some who clearly need to move on and No Number 9. Some times ppl think slapping any decent wingers as a N9 will provide the same result as a real 9. I just hope Potter gets the rest he finally needs.
Potter was 11th and didn't have a bottom half squad, so he was sacked. Simple. Underperforming coach sacked. It's not potter who wasn't given enough time, he's been in 10th for a while, it's tuchel
@@moderatemapper9440 i agree with you. tuchel never had enough time. I dont think Potter is totally blameless either. Like Chopping and Changing every game, Benching badiashille when has been our best CB since coming in january and then playing James at RCB when we were a goal down. Even so, i will stick with what i said cause i think he has been very unlucky too.
Tuchel was sacked for different reasons, not enough goal doesnât help of course. But he was laid off because he didnât get along w dumb Toddâs âfootballing visionâ.
Remember Chelsea's setup against west ham in that 1-1 draw? I feel like potter should have stuck to that setup because it put all their new signings in positions they were comfortable in
That was a good starting 11,except for Kai at No 9.
Long term in the Premiership? Results results results. Seems like the owners have made a rod for their own back and Potter pays the price.
I love this news anchor look JJ has in this video. His nickname can finally change to "the bulletin"
Yeah, it just didn't work out. Also interesting how Tuchel found employment around the same time Potter was fired.
I actually believe that Potter would still have a job if Tuchel wasn't hired.
Obviously, yes. Now get Nagelsmann in
Why him?
Why did chelsea fired tuchel back then? Jusk asking because as far as i know he is doing good, then suddenly fired
Tuchel lost the dressing room and had terrible run. Outside of the champions league he didn't really show up in the latter half of his tenure. That and he doesn't know how to manage up. It's a trend in all the clubs he's been in.
He was not doing good. We were playing poorly from the end of last season till August when Tuchel got sacked. I remember all the bad performances that so many people want to ignore now that Potter has been sacked.
@@sjc2534 what a stupid idiotic statement. Tuchel never lost the dressing room. Todd boehly even said he was sacked for non football reasons. Tuchel even said in his bayern club interview that the Last two club he was in had nothing to with him . He even said he has good relationships with the chelsea players and message sometimes. So do your research before making yourself look like clown đ€Ą.
@@ABoogie7-7 just because he wasn't doing good doesn't mean he wouldn't have found a way to turn it around
Frankly I don't believe Potter is incapable of coaching a big team. The situation at Chelsea was simply unsustainable for any coach, and results won't improve until they offload aome piece of the roster
No individual video on Brendan Rodgers sacking from Leicester? You know, the guy whoâs been there for 4 years as opposed to 6 months and has actually achieved stuff?
Just as a reminder to you guys Leicester are the side that spent 5 of the last 6 seasons 1st, 5th, 5th, 8th and 9th including winning the FA Cup, Community Shield and 3 very good European campaigns.
Seven and a half minutes and all of it a build to "A Stamford Bridge too far" đ«
Would absolutely love to play as Chelsea on FM. Ridiculously talented squad
Poor Liam Twomey, I feel for about two weeks every year when a manager gets sacked he has to do more work than any other prem journalist
The moment Tactics was not used to back Graham Potter nor show reason for sacking is to show how little of a impact he had at chelsea. I wish him the best I already saw this as being too big for him Chelsea should have reserved hiring him and wait until they obtain other clubs first that he might strive better at.
If you're going to claim you need a number 9, the top team in the league should have a number 9, but arguably Arsenal plays a false 9. When Haaland is out, Man City play a false 9 system. In both teams, they outscore opponents tactically and with movement. Man City played a false 9 system last year and was the top scoring team. If you don't have the players to play a traditional number 9 up top, you need to change to use a different system. Potter has the players to play a false 9 system but doesn't. He had the same struggle with scoring at BHA & Swansea. Each coach after him improved the team and improved scoring. The tactical limitation is Potter's. His conservatism holds back the teams he uses which need to indulge risks. He doesn't have the solution for low blocks. Whereas, other teams do. Arteta had a bloated squad, but he benched players who didn't contribute & fought to get them moved on. Potter tried to rotate players and keep everyone happy. While management had a large squad (with injuries), he didn't push to move out the bloat. Eddie Howe and Arteta came into the clubs & made connecting with fans & club cultures a priority. Potter didn't. If anything, what his stint at Chelsea taught us is that Potter is a good coach, but a terrible manager.
Considering Chelsea under Poch, it is clear to see the issue wasn't Potter.
People fail to realize Potter had players upfront who couldnât finish for their lives, players who werenât motivated anymore to play for Chelsea with Potter we didnât gave away goals like Christmas gifts our only issue was finishing chances we had a style of play under Potter the only difference rn is we have Palmer otherwise we wouldâve 40 goals less. Only problem I could argue about is maybe his personality but other than that what do you expect him to do 2 years further and we still have the same issues
That joke at the end was so bad it physically hurt me đ
As bad as potter was coaching those players I think chelsea fked up firing him.
The transfer window put a lot of pressure on him having 4/5 players in almost every position and then signing no one on CB, not to mention they come from other leagues.
Building a team literally from the ground up in the middle of the season is not hard, it's impossible.
Now chelsea is stuck with 40+ players with massive wages, no coach snd no way to get rid of them because if the owners begin to struggle chelsea would need to sell them on the cheap.
Just terrible all around
Lol, all u need is select the strongest 18 & play others in cups until the summer clear out.
@@akachiedoggy5711 theyâre not in any cups and itâs end of the season. Plus thatâs the issue, you need to be playing the same ppl week in and out but if you donât know your best players
Potter had exactly the same problem when he first went in at Brighton, a team that played nice football but were toothless upfront. Everyone used to say that if he had a decent number 9 they would score tons of goals, but they never did. What didnt help though was the owner buying loads of players they didnt actually need and then just saying to Potter, there you go, here's some players now get them playing. Perhaps a manager with more gravitas such as Luis Enrique might be able to get more out of this squad but they certainly need more direction
Itâs crazy to think he played one recognised CB against AVL
Chelsea fan here. Itâs the order of operations that was a problem. Potter wouldâve never been appointed or he wouldâve been judged more fairly had Boehly hired a technical director (Vivell) first, figured out whether to keep Tuchel or get a new manager with Vivell, got players, had a preseason.
Instead it was players, preseason, sacked Tuchel, more players, and last Vivell.
Every press conference was met with excuses about a lack of a preseason, injured players, and then too many players. The thing is that 2 of those three things wouldâve been known before signing. The board wouldâve told Potter the quantity of players they planned on signing.
The club have spent 200 mil euros on 3 new CB, yet Potter only play 1 CB in this match, while Pep, Arteta, and Howe are even force to play 3-4 CB in a match because they know how crucial that is, not just that, Potter had Reece James the best right back in the league, yet he play him as CB and give the rb post to a midfielder, im no manager, but even i can do better than that.
As a Chelsea fan I am so happy to see that clueless manager get sacked.
No English manager please. They are good for teams below 15th
If Chelsea had just brought in maybe 2-3 players (Enzo, Felix, Fofana) and just worked with what they had, I believe Chelsea and Potter wouldâve been better off. They made his job harder than it actually was by spending $600mil.
I thought there was a squad limit of 25 for the Premier League,with a max of 17 foreign players? I don't think I've ever seen a squad so big it can't even play all its players in the league it's playing in. I'm sure Potter needed to go,but that club needs to have a good look at itself,because that's disgraceful management.
How about a video of Naggelsman or Enrique(most probable) on the Chelsea job
Did no one tell Potter than "points are bad" didn't apply to the league?
Top Class Intro, he should absolutely enjoy that excellent intro
He was never given a chance. I cannot see that this makes any sense at all unless they already had Nagelsmann already lined up. At the very least they should have let him continue until the end of the season. I actually had faith in Potter, but Iâve lost confidence in the ownership. They havenât got a clue.
Couldnât wait for this video after hearing the sacking
I love how cucurella was Brightons best player under Potter to the extent Chelsea paid so much for him, and then he was arguably one of Chelseas most underperforming players months later under the same manager in a similar formation to what he was familiar
There are two sides to a club - the technical/sport side and the administrative/ownership side. For me, Potter (technical/sport) would probably have been okay, if the admin/ownership side had been rational, but that side has been crazy. You have an owner who doesn't understand the game throwing money around with wild abandon, snapping up the latest shinny object and them dumping all those shinny objects onto the coach. If the owner has no clue about recruitment, yet insists on running it, then what else in the club is he not understanding yet insisting on running? The answer to that question may possibly answer the question of why Potter failed.
wheres the old set :(
Todd Boehly's running Chelsea like he's playing Football Manager for the first time. "What!? Why can't I play 4-4-3!?"..."Why can't my attacking midfielders score? I've bought 8 of them!
Loving the hair cut
At the start of January Sterling and Pulisic got injured so Madueke and Mudryk were signed...
What is the problem?
I think it really doesn't matter how many players are in the squad, you can't find yourself 11th this late into the season in a club that expects to win trophies.
If Todd Boehly and co are as ambitious as they say they are, they were looking for a Pep or Klopp type of manager who would compete for and win everything after being given time but could you actually look someone in the eye and say without a shadow of a doubt that Potter will achieve what Pep and Klopp have done? Potter's already done worse than both of them in any single season they've been a manager. It just wasn't going to work for Potter, nothing short of a miracle was going to allow him to live up to what the club wants, and this was a long time coming after he became statistically the worst Chelsea manager.
Potter's not a bad manager though, he was just punching too far above his weight with this Chelsea jump. Potter or should've joined West Ham or Leicester first.
Both of those clubs are run worse and have worse squads than Brighton. They would in no way have been a step up for him. It's why he went to Chelsea (besides the money obviously) - anything except the top 6 would've been a sideways move at best. The-not-quite-top-6 jobs like Everton used to be don't exist anymore.
Potter is a fantastic manager, Chelsea are silly to get rid of him.
As a villa fan i completely agree
As an arsenal fan, I firmly believe Potter deserved atleast 5 more seasons at Chelsea
Big sides need big managers.
Is there a video about how AC Milan able to beat Napoli 4-0 coming soon?
Backed him up until the Villa game. The Southampton game was a concern but losing 2-0 to Villa AT HOME was madness. He just had to go. Still question whether sacking Tuchel was right in the first place but here we are. Whoever comes in next has to send a message to some of these players and command respect, put their foot down. We cannot allow player power to dominate Chelsea any longer, so sick of it. Yes, Potter was not doing a good job but some of the players that have been here for a while are lazy and inconsistent. City did brilliant without an out and out number 9, there's no excuse around that area. If players weren't so toothless in this Chelsea squad we wouldn't be asking these questions.
@Abdullah Hussain Absolutely!
@Abdullah Hussain Ziyech and Pulisic I agree, but the others you can take a rest and count them out. Mendy and Kepa do try. Loftus and Chalobah are squad players.
Emery is a Champions League level manager and recently won a European trophy
Villa are no slouch.
Southampton lost was bad but Villa are good
I hope they continue down this horrible route, their fans are the worst.
Every team has atleast 24 first team players. It's at the max 7 extra. Out of those 5-6 injured for months. Some even for a season
Don't understand the too many people excuse
You can't say that they don't have goal scorers when two strikers are rotting in the bench. It's the coaches tactical fault. He chose not to play them. Every other January signing had a fair chance except for David Fofana. Maybe not Madueke (excuse my spelling) too... He chose to stick with Kai Harvezt after back to back disappointments.
had to get this one out the way before hamill comes in, smart.
How is this even a question? You see media belittling (not JJ though) managers who become 2nd and 3rd and then backs up others who cant even maintain a single digit league position. Why so much bias? I guess this is why Brexit happened- British preference!
keep buying below average over priced players and expect manager to do miracles. Potter aint wrong, look at this chelsea team... the ones that are not injured are utter shite. horrible transfers simply horrible. this makes it what 16-17 managers in 19-20 yrs? club really has no class.
The buying was absurd. Get a striker, lads. Even Wout
I don't fully understand the sacking. We knew that this season was gonna be rough but we also were never going to get relegated. Sacking Potter at the end of the season would be understandable if he doesn't pick up form but I really really like Potter and I do think that if the players had finished their chances more reliably we would never have this conversation.
Furthermore I don't know who chelsea will now hire. I am more than hesitant to call Nagelsman a better manager, Zidane is way to unrealistic, I have my doubts about Marco Silva and god forbid we hire Pochettino. The only one I'd be happy with is Luis Enrique but I am open to let Bruno Saltor do his thing for a while.
Potter will undoubtedly get hired by some mid-table prem club (Tottenham maybe) in a couple months and we will all see again how great of a manger he is.
Chelsea fan. Until the rest of us learn patience, nothing at the club is going to change. Ownership made a huge mistake, sacking Potter without seeing where we end up in Champions League. I hope the next manager wins us a treble because fans' expectations now are ridiculous
Our expectations are simple. Top 4 and compete in all fronts. Win every game. There's nothing ridiculous there. We've managed to get top 4 consistently over the years regardless of how bad we performed.
@William Twala there is the ridiculous- win "every" game? Do you have/live up to such high expectations for yourself in your own personal life? Once ownership changed and TT got sacked (while our injury list kept growing), did you actually expect we'd have a winning season in the middle of a team rebuild during a world cup year? Get over yourself. Potter def wasn't the right man, but the culture we have of sacking managers needs to change, along with unrealistic fan expectations when dealing with reality. Grow up
@RomanDeLaMancha Yes, win every game. The 5 previous campaigns show one thing, you need more than 90pts to win the season. How you get those points is by winning all your games and getting your few draws here and there. But win all your games.
Before TT left at first I had high hopes that we would get top 4. Not win the season, I sadly did not believe in TT, his football frustrated me.
So once we got Potter I had hope, I was excited... I thought he could do something better and come with something better. But once I saw sterling play wing back I knew that this is a mess. And we're going to have a huge problem.
In the midst of our injuries, I was able to pick a starting line up that made more sense than what he was picking. If you tell me 'but we did not have full backs', then you and the whole back 3 lot who think attacking can only be done with wing backs need to look at Arsenal, Newcastle, Napoli and Real Madrid. And you will see how us not having our wing backs should have never been an issue with our squad depth.
The injury issue was just a bucket of excuses after the Jan window. We could and should have gotten something better out of that.
In short, yes. We got top 4 whilst we were going through transfer bans, Roman sanctions and you think this season is an excuse? We have injuries, injuries always occur, they are the risk of the game. But that has never been an excuse. And now you want to sing about them as an excuse?
All our previous coaches came and made sure to strive for top 4, with whatever they had. TT did with our so many injuries. And sadly even if Potter was not up to scratch, the players had a role to play here.
In my personal life, I do have high standards for myself and for those around me.
I did not understand Potterâs formation in Chelseaâs last game. It looked like he was basically trying to play it safe. Too safe actually.
Also, why play two really good wing backs as centrebacks..? It made no sense. James and Cucurella are two of the most attacking minded WB in the EPL.
It just seemed a waste of their talents. And itâs quite saddening. You canât have this many talented players and not deliver. Even if you canât win, a draw should be possible.
He was 11th. - thanks for coming
It feels like Potter was always doomed, with the backstage chaos, huge turnover and a profoundly unbalanced squad, compounded in January and disrupted by the world Cup. At Brighton he had a fantastic scouting network and players were identified for roles while Chelsea had a demented bric-a-brac of big name talent that didn't actually fit any given template- plus, the embedded distrust of an unproven manager, this season was always a write off.
Imho, he should have got until October or so, give him a full preseason, a summers window to get the necessary transfers in and clear dead wood.
You're never going to build the lego house that looks like the picture on the box with pieces from two disparate sets and a job lot bought in a car boot sale.
Potter sacked himself
We all loved the Brighton structure and function, surely if it were possible to copy that as big club itl ensure continuity while enjoying the short termism of spend winning. If I were Todd I'd take Potter to come finish off and polish the structure akin hat he did with Brighton and when done with dispose of him and remain with the structure. To me Potter set up a new structure in line with his admired philosophy, the club new direction (e.g buy young ,long term contracts etc) and at the very top of the structure had Elite Manager placed there not knowing it was not him....Potter essentially sacked himself . .Todd Boely is a billionaire by no mistake.
Potter didn't have to play the new players immediately. He could've transitioned them. I remember Felix, Enzo and Mudryk literally played immediately, which no one expected. And he made questionable decisions. He somehow liked Connor Gallagher, Connor Gallagher is not the answer to any question
Yeah painful and all that Jazz is right but most and foremost: Conte AND Nagelsmann are now available.
31 damn players in the squad and haaland has one less goal than chelsea as a whole, the owners obviously think this is fifa or something bc u cant build a culture by constantly changing everything about it. just pure dysfunction
He was doomed from the start sadly. No he didnât coach well by any means but I honestly canât imagine anyone doing well in this situation.
This comment aged well months later. Pochettino isn't doing any better.
JJ couldn't help but crack the last joke. Stamford Bridge indeed.
Chelsea have always been poorly run. They just had enough money to throw around. They have won trophies but have never ever been consistent enough for the level of spending. If they had a strategy they would have been as successful as City these last 6 years, but since 2007.
i think the lack of distinct playstyle is what makes them inconsistent but thats just based on what i know on a surface level
They see where Brighton are, and know that took 3 years, but only give Potter 6 months?
Combined with trying to make sense of a ridiculous transfer policy, bloated squad, injuries/ lack of depth in some positions.
Madness. It's not like they will get 4th now anyway so why disrupt the club? (Oh yeah, it's Chelsea!)
Potter will end up at Leicester but I think heâd do well at Crystal Palace with their crop of young players.
Potter should play Football Manager like Stade de Reims manager (Will Still). surely FM can give him some help lol
Not even putting Zakaria on the bench was the last straw for me.
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Chelsea play a very direct, predictable game, especially since the last transfer. I'm not surprised by their position in the standings. I think this shows that winning is not just about talent, physicality, energy, pace.... It's also about intelligent play, controlling the game... Maybe Chelsea would have gotten there in a few months or a year under Potter. In any case, it feels like the front office doesn't know the players that they are taking on well enough or are underestimating the value of certain important in-game elements
Could they have been anymore wrong?
Only a desperate manager would want to takeover this team in the current situation we're in with just 10 games to play guess we just have to put our faith in Bruno??
Yes they were totally right to sack him.. no matter how much of a style manager you are.. if you aren't versatile enough to atleast be top 8 with this squad you just shouldn't be in charge...
I hope he does great wherever he goes but.. this is just totally unacceptable from a coach at this level
It seems like every Chelsea manager is a caretaker now.
He walked into a complete mess at Chelsea coming straight from the top. It wouldnât matter who the manager is, the sheer amount of squad dishevel & bloat would, and will continue to, cause poor form. This isnât video game⊠ToddâŠ.
Jjs been doing that intro for 10 years +
All of this "too many good players" talk . . . absurd. At top teams, like Chelsea, managers shouldn't be coming in, looking at the players, and coming up with a style that fits the players. That's a small team approach. You should be coming in with a style you already know and choosing the best players to implement it, transferring those who don't. For a manager with that appropriate mindset, choosing the best set of players out of the 40 is much easier. It's only for a tinkerer like Potter with no conviction in his style that it's impossible.
3:00 you said RLC made sense but it didn't. He was wide all game and didn't go central at all. And that result in him being totally useless all game trying to be a winger without any ability to dribble past defenders and hitting crosses into the defenders and all game he did was to get corners for us. Total garbage.
Yes
if that's a wacom thats the really expensive one
Wrong question, should he have been hired in the first place? They already had an Elite manager in Tuchel.
yes
What's with Aubameyang?
Potters record on paper does put him as the lowest Chelsea manager this century. People will argue that means he can't manage a big club. Chelsea this season though aren't operational within what is expected of a big club. He had:
- Players signed for Tuchel that dont fit.
- No club structure decided on until Feb.
- A ground up overhaul of the medical department during the season.
- The worst injury crisis the clubs had yet.
- No PL primed striker signed but a nonsense expectation to score goals when theres nobody who actually instinctively understands how to at least work the box.
- A bunch of young players signed in January clearly not as impact signings but ones to develop for next season and beyond.
- The most bloated and imbalanced squad of 32 players. That completely dilutes the coaching and the minutes available to keep everyone match fit and happy.
-About 6 weeks out of the 6 months of players away on international duty for the World Cup
So Potters Chelsea record is less about his ability and much more a reflection of the fact he's taken the massive hit of the hardest period of the most aggressive transition strategy in world football. Through his time he has been a stable character through the most disruptions the clubs had since Ken Bates bought the club for ÂŁ1 in 1982.
With all the injuries; new signings; and squad size, the coaching is so diluted across time that these players will be lucky if they had even 2 months worth of actually working with Potter.
To sum it up. It was an impossible job to take on in an impossible period. Look how Klopps struggled with Liverpools transition when that club is operating normally. If he was in Chelsea for the same 6 months Potter was then he would have fared not much better.
Chelsea should have seen this season as a write off for all the turmoil and just used whats left to experiment to the max. Stick Gallagher at RWB, stick RLC as a striker, put Chalobah as a DM. Things like that would have maximised the data available to the coaching staff ready to really sculpt the squad in the summer clearout and prepare fully for next season. That would have given Chelsea the biggest advantage. Then judge Potter under normal circumstances next season which he was never given the chance for.
the mess already started after the CL win. Since the CL win, Tuchel's Chelsea already gone downhill. Too many in-game management disasters from both Potter and Tuchel
Potter was crap. Simple
After the season ended, it was a mistake of course
Signing him to not give the pre season makes the tuchel sacking even worse!
There is no strategy with anything from those American donuts. So naive
YES
Yes. Terrible signings....n no striker
I hate this concept of Chelsea being too "big" for Potter. Blackburn used to be "big", Wimbledon FC were in the Premier League for eight seasons. "Big" teams are only such through the effort of coaching and players- if you play like a mid-league team then you are one. The only thing big about Chelsea is their hilariously bloated squad that this video rightly points out is impossible to train
chose the path of most resistance đ couldn't have said it better
Chelsea werenât right in hiring him on a 5 year contract in the first place thatâs for certain
On the plus side he has probably done enough to become Gareth Southgates successor