When Your Doctor is a DO
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- čas přidán 30. 10. 2022
- An MD vs a DO is nothing to worry about because the 2 degrees result in the same type of competent physician.
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My mom had cancer and was going to a DO. She wanted an MD. Switched her insurance to go to an MD at UCLA. When she got there she told him she had been going to a DO and wanted an MD. The MD chuckled and told her, “We all get the same training, go back to your DO.”
Your DO can pop your back.
@SaucyWench88 the way chiropractic medicine is performed is a joke 90% of the time. Popping your joints does absolutely nothing besides some mild and temporary relief. It's much more risky than it is helpful unless they're actually having you perform physical exercises along with your joint treatment.
@@SaucyWench88very few DO's manipulations anymore.
@@SaucyWench88DO’s don’t do that kind of manipulation.
@@elizabethlebaron9545 really? Mine does.
"So whats the difference?"
The difference is that the AOA would like to continue reeling in money
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AOA?
@@thomasmitchell4128 my guess it's "American Osteopathic Association"
Just like the AMA is the "American Medical Association" and the APA is the "American Psychological Association"
And the AHA is the "American Hospital Association"
@@Ratchet4647 Now if only one of these could start caring about the patients.
@@stansman5461 They care about their patients, don't blame medical associations for the medical system, politicians set it up.
My cardiologist is a DO. Of all the cardiologists I have had to interact with over the years, he is by far the most attentive. I dread his well-deserved retirement.
Where do I find one? Northwest Indiana.
My Dr of 30 years is a DO best doctor I ever had ! My daughter has used her since the day she was born ! Funny coincidence she was born on her birthday 🎂
@@1Immortalmortaldo you want a cardiologist, a DO, or a cardiologist who is a DO? Your insurance will typically have a search function on their website to find in-network doctors, but Google is also useful for locating the doctor, it just won't tell you if it's covered by your insurance.
My husband and I see a DO, and I have found his practice to be more attentive and caring about our wellness, not just about our illness.
So is it like physical therapists ?
no, DOs are medical doctors. They take the same 4 years of med school and 3-7 years of residency training as an MD. They do take an extra class during their first two years called which is a physical treatment of musculoskeletal issues, but that's really the only difference in training between DO and MD. A physical therapist does 3 years of physical therapy and no specialty training years. @@sherbet3657
This is truly what we need in doctors! Less gaslighting and dismissal and more encouragement and prevention!
@@sherbet3657 No, they are doctors, but unlike a lot of doctors, they don't just write you a script and walk out. My DO is concerned about everything, even if I come in for just one small problem. She'll take 30 minutes to just listen to you and work with you to figure out treatment. Mine consults with my other doctors to make sure she has the information she needs to treat me.
@@sherbet3657no they’re mostly just a doctor. As said in the video, the massage thing mostly doesn’t come up. Think of them as a doctor more concerned with treating the root of problems than just the symptoms. I find mine to be more willing to listen and work with me on investigating the source of my problems, some of which are musculoskeletal in nature, but some are not. None are super 1 to 1 issues like cancer or a specific illness or condition, though she does order tests immediately to rule those out.
MD sticking up for DOs
Hasan really started a thing
Wait so he’s an MD not a DO? It’s weird to me as here (Australia) osteopaths can be closer to woo woo than physical therapy, and have nothing do with doctors. Who we just call. Doctors. Lol.
@@MeppyMan in the US, they're essentially the same thing, just different degrees names
@@DoctorFeuer yeah I’ve recently learned about this thanks to previously following doctor Mike (until he got into boxing) and the SGU podcast talking about it.
Still sounds like there is some questionable evidence to the osteopathic part, but the medical training is equivalent as far as I remember.
Oh Hasan Made the rivalry so big! You could feel it in the Audience that night even if there was no animosity before, Hasan started a civil war 😂
@@MeppyMan Osteopaths in Australia are qualified closer to massage therapist/chiropractors.
If someone obtained a doctor of Osteopathy in America, they can be recognised in Australia as a qualified medical doctor, the same as MBBS or MD. This means they can practice in hospitals, clinics etc the same as every other doctor.
However, AHPRA has regulations that say they cannot refer to themselves as osteopaths, because osteopaths in Aus are largely quack science and they don't want DOs giving them legitimacy
My doctor is a DO and she is very good and attentive, and while I am accustomed to back pain because I have scoliosis, she was just doing an exam and told me my back was tight and I had to do yoga or PT. I had not noticed. I got a mat and I don't have to do it much and my back is better.
Honestly I have never had a doctor who actually is willing to put hands on you to heal so much. She has helped me a lot.
Yep, my Dr is also a DO and I ADORE him! So does my chiropractor lol. He's amazing at actually listening to me and working to get to the bottom of whatever is going on and makes sure to fully explain why he's doing xyz than any Dr I've ever had ❤️
My dad was a pilot in the army, a lot of the flight surgeons were DOs due to can’t fly on some meds. Love DOs find cause work with patient give meds if required. Live near a DO school so lots of them around here.
Yeah the only benefit of being a DO is developing palpating skills that can some times lead to finding out you just have a muscular or skeletal issue instead of a real issue and you can’t start with more conservative treatments.
While we are taught some of the techniques chiropractors are it’s evident that very few work and only the ones with some evidence are actually used.
There are some quack DOs but they’re pretty rare.
And no more quack than a chiro
@@Raioh. no more quack than a chiro seems more like an insult
So how do you go about finding a DO specifically in your area?
I cannot say enough amazing things about my DO. ❤
My first visit, she held my hand as I explained my family health history and cried as I recalled losing my Dad to dementia.
Every time I have a visit with her she asks about my career and family and is so thorough and kind.
When another specialist doctor wouldn’t make time to check my blood levels, she did, and sent me to the ER immediately for a transfusion because I had such extreme blood loss (my hemoglobin was 4.7)
She saved my life.
She is the best doctor, the kindest person, and I am blessed to have her as a physician.
I’ve worked with Do’s and MD’s and the Do’s tend to care more about solving the problem while MDs love solving the symptoms. Same test very different outlooks
THIS really is the ONLY difference between the two.
Yes, this is the reason that I only go to DO’s.
Yes your right.
Agree, I switched to a do last year and he's a way better dr than most the most I've seen. The only one who didn't push the experimental poke!
Excellent way of describing it. Much prefer my DO as my PCP.
As a DO med student, I appreciate this video!
My friend is a DO med student waiting to take his comprehensive exam. I’m nervous for him.
One has to wonder why one would go into DO and not MD if there isn’t a difference.
@@darkopz Usually for the focus on preventive and holistic medicine, some doctors don’t want to be too confined in one system of the body, and like to know more about how everything interconnects
@@darkopz Because there are limited seats in MD schools, and DO schools produce physicians as well. Sometimes its not an active choice as much as something that simply happens.
@@darkopz For many premed students, the tactic is to apply to both MD and DO, regardless of preference, and take what you get. Seats are limited across the board.
You had me at "I have the same training". That's all I need to know.
Same training plus extra. And they all had to pass the same exams to qualify.
But have you looked up the history of chiropractic? Real medicine mixed with pseudo-science is not a healthy combination.
@@wadejohnson3051 osteopathic medicine is not the same as chiropractic
@@OriLOK2 to be completely honest that's the part that confused me about this. The name immediately made me think it was some sort of homeopathic chiropractor or something.
@@wadejohnson3051 DO is not the same as chiropractors. DOs go to medical school and can do everything a MD does. In a hospital setting, you will see both MDs and DOs in the same role, performing surgeries, interventions, etc, and going through the same residency and fellowships side by side. No difference, effectively.
My dad (who was an RN) said a DO is just a MD who is certified to do more😂😂
Best doctor I ever had is a DO. They're amazing!
*me suddenly realizing I need to find myself a DO*
Same here
I'm in school for it now. Find me in a couple of years!
Fr!!
Yes!!!
Yes! Unfortunately insurance doesnt understand the difference, so you may end up paying more out of pocket, but in ny experience as a medical massage therapist referring to DOs, its more likely to help. Therefore its worth the cost for most people.
Glad to see this video had a happy ending.
Funny that... About a doctor that can do massages 🙄
It's too bad there's stigma against DOs in some places. They're great.
Right? Just once it's nice to see the wig and glasses used for good instead of evil
@@stamperthedooker4510 LMAO
@@bioboi808 Having been treated by both DO's and MD's, I have to admit that I prefer a DO to an MD in all but one case that I have found, that being my first pediatrician growing up who was an MD, but took an approach similar to a DO. Other than him though, I have found that a DO tends to have a better bedside manner and are MUCH more willing to actually explain something to a patient.
I love my DO. She is Soooooo much more thorough than any MD ive ever had.
Honestly I've had both suck or be good it's just a mixed bag
D.O. saved my life 6 hours after I was told nothing wrong by an M.D
You got a story for that? Sounrs interesting
@@australiananarchist480 yes
@@leeharris1320 ...please share it lmao?
well are you going to share it? we're curious to hear it!
@@viceroyvic had been having bad rt flank and back pain. Dr did labs said all ok went to work that night collapsed.
D.O. examined me said. Surgery. Appendix wrapped around my kidney ready to burst
DOs are actually my favorite. Where my MD used to just offer more and more pharmaceuticals, my DO is more interested in finding out the cause of something rather than just covering it with a drug. And I absolutely love my MD! She just has different training and a different mindset than my DO.
This. My DO is always interested in getting to the bottom of an issue instead of just throwing meds at it. And she does prescribe meds but she also will run tests first.
So true! I kinda wish we had DOs in Canada, When I have physical pain it can be tough to fix it because docs tend to gravitate towards painkillers and then with PTs, chiro, osteopaths, etc you never know if it's actually going to work or not.
Same, I've actually had my DO pop my lower back in and do adjustments instead of just giving me painmeds
My MD is exactly the same way your DO thing is. I'm pretty sure a lot of this is more generational than about which med school you went to and which kind of program it is.
That has nothing to do with an MD vs DO, it’s just based on the individual
If I could find a DO, I would definitely have them as my doctor. I have so much respect for their approach to medicine and the human body.
As a DO student, this comment section gives me the warm and fuzzies 🥺 Thanks to everyone who shared about their appreciation for their DO docs!
ER nurse here......DO = BEST DOCS EVER!!!
Did you know the chiropractors were granted a PERMANENT RESTRAINING ORDER against the American Medical Association which bans MD from professionally denigrating chiropractic? The chiropractors took MDs to court over them claiming chiropractic was "quackery" and the chiropractors won in court. The MDs have to watch their competitive, ignorant mouths or the chiropractors can sue them.
@@JoaninFlorida chiropractors are quacks though.
I agree. I had the privilege of working for a DO. MD hated her, but I thought she was wonderful.
I agree ( RN too).
I agree one of the criteria when I look for a doctor is that they are a DO I will not go to an MD
I miss my DO. He was the best listener, he did approach my health holistically, he was patient with my questions, he encouraged me to be my own advocate. Sigh. He moved away to greener pastures.
"He moved away to greener pastures." He's living upstate on a farm where he gets to run free with lots of other DOs?
I honestly think both are great, but as an RN I really love the holistic approach of the D.O.
I was a little nervous about where you were going with this but I like how it ended.
Outside of the US a DO has completely different training. They are not medical doctors. But here, whenever I have to look for a new doctor which fortunately I haven't recently, I look for a DO.
thanks for this comment. I'm outside the us and was confused about this video and all of the positive comments.
I’m Canadian and now work in the US. I have been really skeptical about DOs since I moved here. While I know they have the same training here as MDs, it’s still a strange concept. We also don’t really have PAs, and that’s been a big strange to me as well.
Yeah... I don't think DOs in Europe have the same training...
Also, the fundamental principles of osteopathy don't make much sense. If they end up doing the same training as a doctor, that's great, and holistic approach is also great. But the whole tissue manipulation thing to heal makes no sense, so I would still be hesitant to go to an DO
Can confirm that at least in Argentina DOs do NOT go to medical school/receive the same training. They can't prescribe medicine nor tests.
@@auricia201I think it does make some kind of sense. For instance helping lymphatic drainage or increased blood flow happens with massage and those help accute injuries heal.
Worked as a RN at 6 different hospitals. The osteopathic one was by far the best.
Retiree RN here. Agree 100%.
LOL, I was speaking with an MD today and she was telling me to go back to school and get a DO-PhD, I didn’t know what it was so she told me what they do. I have a masters in applied mathematics and I told her if I could go back to school I would go into medicine, and she recommended this DO program. Now I am looking at it. She said a lot of new people who are going to med schools are older folks, not just 24 year olds! In fact she mentioned that at university of Minnesota most people in the med school are now 30-40 year olds!
I’m 39 in a DO med school. Happy to answer any questions you have!
I’m 30 and applying to medical school.
My son is 40
“Older folk”
🤣
33 applying to med school 🎉
I love that you are spreading factual informative information about DO physicians 😊. After having had recent celebrities and news outlets delegitimize DOs, these types of videos make me super happy.
Sincerely, a DO physician :)
@Zach Hogan we literally take the exact same licensure exams and are in the same residency training programs as MD physicians and make up a large chunk of practicing physicians in this country in all specialties (which there is still a shortage of), but do tell how we are frauds and an embarrassment to the profession. It certainly isn’t due to education or training, since those are identical to MDs.
My family Dr is a DO and we've followed him to 3 different practices since my son was born and if he were to move again, we'd follow him again. Absolutely adore him. When your 2 year old starts fake coughing and telling you he's sick and needs to go to the Dr you keep that Dr, ESPECIALLY when that Dr starts to get misty eyed when you tell him that's part of why you're following him to another practice!
But you're a woo peddler of pseduoscience
What celebrities and news outlets? What'd they say?
@@Molly-kc4is There are some corner cases that make the profession look bad. My grandmother sees a DO that still does cranial manipulation (and only takes cash payments). I wish she wouldn't but I can't talk her out of it. OTOH, our kids' pediatrician is a DO and we love her approach to wellness. The kids love her, too.
One of the best docs I ever had was a DO.
I worked with DO’s for years as a nurse. That was the kind of doctor I saw as a child. There is an old book I read about Doctor of Osteopathy one of the Doctors wives let me borrow. It was very fascinating and impressive. Back in the day I guess Osteopathic doctors had to have more training d/t the manipulation training. I worked with them all over 46 years. No different. I am partial to D.O.’s. Thank you Dr. Hamilton and Dr. Embry for all you taught this young nurse @21. They were great doctors.
I have always preferred D.O.'s and when seeking a new primary care or specialist I always try to choose a D.O. when I can. Not sure why but in my personal experience they always seem to have better bedside manner and empathy. They have also been better at listening to the patient and believing in the patient when they say something is not right.
I work as a respiratory therapist alongside MDs and DOs in the hospital setting. I would never know the difference if it wasn't on their badges.
There is a reason they get different badges, it's to distinguish the pseudo-science from actual science.
@@wadejohnson3051 they mean the name badge. E.g. John Smith D.O. and John Smith M.D.
Your ignorance is showing
@@wadejohnson3051 you bozo they take the same boards and do the same residencies.
@@wadejohnson3051 The DO's literally meet the same qualifications as MDs, and have to do extra work on top of that... same classes, same licensure exam (USMLE) on top of their own boards (SMART), same post grad training
@@bisterkding9249 my problem isn't they both get legitimate medical training. My problem is one side gets pseudo-science crammed in with science which is a bad combination. If you're getting training that isn't based on any evidence what so ever that's a problem.
A program that say spinal manipulation can cure cancer is not getting the right training.
This video is funny and enlightening. My daughter’s pediatrician is a DO and I am starting a DO med school in next fall.
DO's are great! I intentionally sought out an office run by a DO for my primary care when I moved. I have a close friend who's in a DO program right now, and it's really interesting hearing about the extra training they get.
Honestly the best doctors I've had have been DOs. I feel like they are taught to listen more, consider the patient as a whole being rather a conglomeration of disparate organs. I've got my MD now but if I could do it all over again I'd seriously consider going to DO school.
Does the history of osteopathy not bother you? Would you really be comfortable with being associated with that kind of pseudo-science?
@@Zack_Taylor all medicine is practicing medicine. And if we look at all forms of medicine the beginning was really stupid and full of weird crap. Psychiatry is a pseudoscience. Men used to think women’s uterus literally went up to her Brain on her period and she had the vapors. That was traditional medicine…. So idk if we wanna go there: the basis is always screwy with any form
@@Zack_Taylor also so many MD’s just throw drugs at people unnecessarily and create disease through iatrogenesis….. so it’s a really slippery slope…
@@Zack_Taylor Yeah and medicine used to revolve around the 4 humors. MD's used to advise lobotomies. There's millions of bad Emergency medicine treatments that we now know are really bad.
So no the history of a profession should have no shame with where it currently is.
@@ChairmanLevi Has osteopathy changed in the same way? I feel there is a difference between the progression that evidence based medicine has made as opposed to alternative medicine.
Two of the most thorough physicians I have ever had have been DOs. They looked at my whole self, much more effective, and faster.
Thanks for this explanation. I never really thought about the difference, nor did I consider researching it. All I know is I've had so many bad experiences with doctors over the years that it became more than a lack of trust. I actively hated them.
However, one year I had no choice, it was doctor or end of the line. Stumbled across a D.O. First doctor who ever listened to me. Man saved my life and it was nice to have someone I could trust with my health for a few years. I was super sad when he retired. Three years later I have yet to look for another doctor because of my past experiences.
Now that I know the significance of D.O. vs M.D. it gives me a bit more confidence in looking for a doctor since I now know to look for another D.O. So thanks!
DO saved my mom's life when all the docs were saying "Oh, she's just Old, probably never go home. The do thought she had fluid on the brain--put in a shunt ,went home in a week, lived for many years.
Just found out that I have been pronouncing osteopathy incorrectly 😬😳😂
I think it's more of a potato/potato situation, but to each their own
Me too!
I had a DO for the last few years. There was no pusher man mentality. Lots of listening and giving me ways to heal without the drugs unless needed the manipulations really helped. She always was able to think outside of the box I found many doctors that I saw, paint themselves in.
As the daughter of a DO I really appreciate this video, it can be hard to describe to people the difference to MD and DO when they ask.
Tell them a DO is trained to treat the body and an MD is trained to prescribe drugs.
tell them its the MCAT scores
@@hereholdthiswillya Thats just as inaccurate framing of it as saying MDs are real doctors and DOs are quacks who learn about debunked Chiropractic stuff.
It doesn't help to frame these things dishonestly when trying to change the problems in the system, like the overprescription or cost issues.
@hereholdthiswillya
That's a poor understanding because there's MDs who use various lifestyle modification approaches, if applicable, before medication and there's DOs who jump to prescribing meds. I've experienced both scenarios.
How a physician approaches their patient's care, treatment and management is based on them individually and not necessarily the degree.
The difference is just different medical schools and DO adds 200 hours of OMT in the curriculum, that's it.
@sachinvaikunth
Not really, there's mid to low tier MD programs with the same MCAT averages as mid tier to low DO programs. I compared with the MSAR and DO school lists.
I loved my family practice dr and he was a D.O. I loved that he did approach my treatment more holistically than my previous MDs, could do adjustments on my back, and gave me excellent wise advice. He retired after I had been seeing him for 35 years. I would always go to a D.O. if I could, but they are not always available in our area.
My primary physician is a DO. Thatʻs why I picked him 20 years ago :) Heʻs also my husband’s doctor’s (an MD) primary. Canʻt get a better recommendation than another great doctor being your patient.
Almost every doctor I’ve had since childhood has been a D.O.
Then it is about time you get checked by a real doctor.
@@andreas5384 damn, i guess ya just ignored the entire video then
@@andreas5384 damn ratio
Did you get... massages?
Same, jetbear!!
Mama went to a chiropractor at a display. He did something to her back and left her in terrible pain. After seeing several doctors and no relief she was hearing suggestions for surgery. She ended up seeing a DO. He had her do a bunch of things including exercise and her back was good as new.
To the team of doctors that included the DO who tested analyzed my complex ortho condition for days carefully chose the right medical treatments thank you Doctor! Wish there were more like him!
I love my DO best thing I did for my health. I got a prescription for physical therapy for depression and anxiety. It allows me lap time at our hospital pool and spa. They also stopped benzodiazepines which my MD had me on since I was 14 along with a insistence that I stay on riddilan at 40. I have been weined off 8 medications lost 20 lbs. Went from a 24 bmi to a 18% BMI. Yes I have medications for my elipisy and a mood stabilizer. So I don't have medications counter acting each other. I feel 💯 better using swimming and working out especially my hip, I'm old but the stress relief was enough to stop benzos also not being hyped up and anxious because I was on unneeded riddilan. That and she talks to me explains why values my opinion seeing as I know my body and I am a nurse, which I appreciate.
Ritalin?
My cousin is a D.O. . She joined the air force as an officer , which paid all of her medical school tuition. She stayed in the Air Force for 4 years as a captain in Maryland as a family practitioner, and now that she’s out she doesn’t have student loans to pay back and works in her hometown.
Congratulations to your cousin 🥳 That's a great way to get your degree and training. Thank you to her for her service to our country.
@@pjt3887 yeah, she’s a really impressive person. Super down to earth, but she’s been really ambitious since we were kids.
After firing 5 individuals that wear lab coats, have a prescription pad and an m.d. on their business cards, I was blessed to find a D. O. that listens and has given me hope. I am so grateful for him.
As a partner of a DO with a bad back, I have a deep appreciation for the osteopathic manipulation.
When I had to act like a proper adult and pick out a doctor for myself I did a bunch of research about the difference between DOs and MDs and honestly I now look for DOs first before I consider MDs when picking a doctor. I like the holistic mentality that goes with the DO training, and the comfort that they are just as knowledgable as any MD.
I went to DO school for that reason. I love the interconnections they teach about different disease processes
We don’t have physician DO in Canada, we have DO’s but they are strictly just that. When I did Physio tech one of my physiotherapy clinical teacher’s was a DO and he was amazing to learn from! We got way more out of our rotation than others did.
So, if someone trained as a DO in the states, but wanted to practise in Canada, could they? Or no?
@@ThisIsKassia i wonder if they would just be classified as a doctor? I would LOVE some up here. I have had physiotherapists do just the osteopathy manipulative stuff on me and it is Gold. Its like I've been to chiro and massage at the same time.
Only in Quebec. Other provinces can’t practice yet.
@@limitlesspatricio777I don’t believe that is the case. OMPs can’t practise, but DOs can, from what I was told. I think you have to go to DO school in the US, but there are licensure bodies in Canada.
DO is amazing. They do adjustments, like chiropractors, but its not concussive or painful. They gently press on pressure points. I'm hypermobile and my ribs are often sore and "out of place", my chest gets tight and gets difficult to breathe. I've never breathed better than after one adjustment from a DO I worked for. It was the best relief I've ever felt. I could really take a deep breath in! And it didn't hurt!
A DO was the only one to finally listen to me about my lifelong chronic issues, and helped me to get the proper diagnoses I needed to understand what I should do to help myself. He ran tests no MD or PA would do, and talked to me in a way that made me feel like I was actually being helped. Meanwhile, my experience with MD’s/PA’s has always been incredibly demeaning and, at its worst, life-endangering. Glad to see DO’s get their exposure through this video and the comments. ❤️
I love OMT as a DO student, it's something like you didn't know you needed it until you didn't get it regularly anymore
It has been horrible since my DO physical therapist retired 😢
Eventually if I can get it together, I’d like to get into a D.O. Program I think.
may be not. .. lot of DO schools are not associated with a teaching hospital. They will charge you more money. you will have to work harder to find places to do your rotations. If you go to regular US MD program, you just sign up for rotations.
My new doctor is a DO, and he's the nicest doctor I've met in the United States. He really made me feel comfortable
My gynecologist is a DO, and she's my favorite doctor I've ever had. She's so patient and attentive! 🥰
so like...does this mean i can ask my DO endocrinologist for a massage at my next appt? 👀
Lol, I'd probably just ask what their opinion or experience with osteopathic manipulations is first...baby steps
DO
If you are experiencing pain, you can ask about OMT (osteopathic manipulative treatment.) It is a mix between techniques in physical therapy, massage therapy, chiropractic work, and even a bit of traditional eastern medicines. DOs that have kept up with the techniques can check you for somatic dysfunction (dysfunction in muscle, tendon, myofascial, etc.)
Ya most DOs haven't adjusted a patient in a long time. Maybe check with their comfert level first before you ask them to lol
@Zach Hogan nope! Some DOs go on to specialize in specifically osteopathic manipulative medicine. Some go on to practice allopathic treatment. But it’s all good medicine.
I see a DO for osteopathic manipulation. He was able to help something no one else could figure out for years. He's amazing.
that's awesome. 95% of DO's never use the OMM they were taught in med school. They go into psychiatry or dermatology and never use it again. I wish they'd just combine the degrees and teach the MDs how to use OMM to treat the 2% of patients who could use it. Especially the orthopedics
My father was a D.O. and he healed many people in Canada. His hands were very skilled and he did more for me then any medical doctor ever could. He got great training in KIrksville and was a follower of Dr. Stills fine teachings.
I love DO’s. Overall have had better experiences with them than MD’s. More holistic.
Had a DO as my ped for years. A good doctor is an empathetic one, and he was great.
DO was always so strange to me. It's something pretty much only the US does.
😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭
Actually, I believe it's more prominent in Italy and Japan than in the US, despite having started there
In germany also.
@@Alb-Patriot I work in Germany as a doctor and I've never met or even heard of someone being a doctor of osteopathy. I read that it exists, but I have no clue how that's possible.
I had a DO for a few years and he was one of the better doctors I have had.
I’ll be receiving my MD in a year but my own PCP is a DO, trust him with everything
I’ve dealt with MDs my entire life and with this last move I decided to establish with a DO. I can honestly say I’m never going to look back. There’s something to be said for someone who’s been trained in a holistic approach that doesn’t get stuck on one single symptom
DO’s are great!
As an hEDS patient I've had a lot more luck with DOs than MDs. More willing to look past this week's shoulder dislocation to the reason I dislocate so often, and quicker to prescribe physical therapy.
My primary doctor is DO. I appreciate the lack of lectures but instead I get encouragement when I focus on positive health care and healing.
My hematologist/oncologist is a D.O., & he's one of the most highly respected (by patients & colleagues), well known doctors in the very highly regarded cancer center I go to. Nobody gives a rat's a** about the alphabet soup after their health practitioner's name. When dealing with something as serious as cancer, we just wanna have a good rapport with them, & know they've got our best interests at heart.
**Dr. Rossetti, you're the best!**
My mom loves that I went to a D. O. School because I can give her amazing massages now.
if she helped pay for your education then those are the most expensive massages on the planet.
Same I have become a party trick at home lol
My first nephrologist was a DO and he was incredible. You could definitely tell he had a different approach to a lot of doctors. We spent a lot of time discussing not just medical intervention for kidney disease but all the things I can do to prevent further kidney damage. I felt very cared for.
This made me realize why the doctor I saw a few years ago for a ganglion cyst was so weirdly touchy feely.
I was not that familiar with the DO until a cousin went to school to be one. Both excellent areas of study to become a doctor.
The one focused on science, the other one on pseudoscience.
@@andreas5384 and do you happen to k ow what degree the founder of osteopathic medicine had?
@@andreas5384 ...you don't actually know what "holistic care" is, do you. You didn't even watch the whole video. You couldn't have. No one could possibly let the whole point of the video fly over their head to the extent that you did. No one could possibly hear that DOs and MDs go through the same training with the same educational requirements but have different treatment methods and go "Yep, DOs are just based in pseudoscience". And they couldn't POSSIBLY say that when Google is very much a thing.
Absolutely impossible.
DO made alot more sense when AT still was starting it because back then medicine included Leaches, amputations and also Remember blood letting. There were very few medications and drugs like heroin and cocaine could be prescribed.
I grew up in Kirksville, Missouri, the home of osteopathic medicine. I did not know what an MD was until I saw it on TV.
We still do literally all those things
I had a DO push my ribs in the wrong direction after a serious water sport injury. Never again!
Our DO is the best doctor my mother and I have ever had. I met him as a teen when he became our PCP for his residency. When he finished he became a sports medicine doctor. We have followed him to two separate practices since his residency over the course of ten years and we’ll follow him to more. He is genuinely the sweetest, most caring man I have ever met and I will stay his patient as long as I can.
I’ve had both and I have never seen a meaningful difference
I want a DO for my primary care physician.
that's a little silly to stereotype an entire group of people based on the letters of their credentials. find the person who best works with you, MD or DO
I love how my DO doesn’t look at me like I’m stupid when I tell her what natural remedies I’ve been using. She understands them and can recommend others or just help me adjust things.
My DO is the best doctor I've ever had. She goes through EVERYTHING, from my symptoms to my mental health to explanations of why and how the illness and treatment work in the body before I leave the office. She fixed muscle spams I've been having for a decade that 3 previous doctors dismissed.
I'm in allopathic med school. I have nothin but respect for my DO peers. We're all collectively crapped on by a horrible system that milks money and treats physicians poorly. Instead of being at each other's throats we should all be unionizing to demand better pay, working hours, and treatment. Insurance, pharma and admins are all bloated pigs who could lose a couple billion.
agreed
Better pay n treatment?
Srs?
N in a few yrs, you work very nice hrs-??
@@YeshuaKingMessiah yeah I am serious. The pay doesn't measure up to the difficulty to get there anymore. There are easier fields like CS with much better work life balance and less educational time these days. If you don't compensate and treat doctors better you'll have fewer people going into the field and you'll get subpar treatment from greedy professions like nurse practitioners
@@smellypatel5272 NPs are greedy n subpar?
@@YeshuaKingMessiah yeah, they are. They order unnecessary tests and miss diagnoses. They have very few clinical hours compared to doctors and a fraction of the education yet demand similar pay and benefits.
I had a DO neurologist who was great! I didn't know about the massages.
Brilliant!! A DO with this kind of sense of humor would be a gem to have!!👍🏻🤗
I LOVE my DO. Best doctor I've EVER had. From what I saw online they actually have an additional training class compared to MDs (the osteopathic manipulation he was talking about).
On average, it also tends to be a bit easier to get into DO programs. Which I think is the reason many people tend to delegitimize the degree, because people think exclusivity correlates to competence, but that isn't the case.
Although the difference in the trainings seems more or less irrelevant unless you intend to work specifically in family medicine, preventative medicine, sports medicine, or as a hospitalist.
That being said, all my favorite doctors have been DOs
The standards for admission are undoubtedly lower for DO schools in comparison to MD schools, but the gap has been closing, and it's still incredibly difficult to get into even one of the newer DO schools now. In another 10 years, we hopefully will be able to finally stop having the "DO vs MD" conversations because it will just be accepted that both degrees are equal.
A lot of DO schools that i've seen appear to be degree factories. charge a lot of money to their students. Many are not affiliated with real teaching hospitals. DO have to work to find places to do their rotations. in the end, not sure it makes much of difference.
I actually love DOs. They tend to listen more.
This is also my experience about 90% of the time.
(As in I've seen a couple of MDs who have listened more. I've never seen a DO who hasn't listened, but plenty of MDs who don't. )
It's a simple schtick, but I absolutely love the way you take a scenario where the viewer expects a patient/doctor or doctor/less experienced doctor relationship to devolve and instead you just end it with everyone understanding each other better. I somehow fell into a medical-people-complaining-about-patients youtube hole, and this is the only content that I'm genuinely happy to have gotten from it.
Best Doctors ever! They understand that if your knee hurts, the hip could be the culprit. The body parts and organs are connected.
I’ve been confused about this for so long! Thank you! Happy Halloween!
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Slightly related- as a lay person, I always giggle when I see Internal Medicine. Cause that narrows it down but only very slightly.
I work with MDs and only see DOs personally
Watched 2 other shorts, this is the one that made me subscribe.
I appreciate 95% of this message here, DOs have to deal with lower visibility of the degree with equal standards. But I’m going to have to push back on the “holistic view, body healing itself” as any real difference between DO sand MD. I’m in MD school, and this line is one I hear from the AOA that I find a bit insulting. I’m interested in holistic views of patients too, and the AOA is only saying that I’m not because they want to continue to exist and make money from a separate set of licensing exams.
It’s also uncomfy because this exact line is used against MDs and DOs alike by full on quacks who mislead people into thinking their doctors are taught not to give a shit about them, because how else will the quacks sell their ineffective alternates?
😂🤣😂🤣
I’m a DO and I hate it too. Everyone wants to do prevention first. I wish they would just merge the degrees. It’s confusing for people
The “quacks” have full appt schedules becuz they’re effective lol
You may be interested in holistic medicine but are you being taught holistic medicine? Do you get any classes on nutrition?
DO curriculum is identical to MD curriculum with the addition of OMM (basically PT/massage). That's insufficient to call DO training more "holistic" generally than MD training. I get very little education on nutrition compared to dietitians, but that's the same amount as DOs. I agree that we should get more nutritional training than we do now, but again, not a difference between MD and DO.
Generally, the problem is that "holistic" is a very vague word that's nearly meaningless in medicine. People just use it to vaguely imply that their own practice has good vibes, compared to some other type of medicine, which has bad vibes, but not in a disprovable or legally actionable way. Which is why the AOA likes to use that kind of word, to perpetuate DOs as a separate degree from MDs and maintain themselves as a separate institution for that sweet, sweet $$$ from DO students who need to take their separate licensing exams. @@lauranilsen8988
this is a very informative video. I've had many DOs who were wonderful physicians.
I was this year's age old when I realized my long time doc was a DO. And I couldn't be happier to have found out about all this stuff.
I had the pleasure of having a DO as my Primary Care Physician for a bit; they were the best doctor I ever had.
I went to a DO neurologist for a neck injury. He didn’t a corrective maneuver in the office (not a chiropractic manipulation), and it helped me so much!! he provided medical care also but I’ll always remember how much that helped me
Legit had this convo with a patient the other day lol I just didn’t know how to explain that a DO is still a doctor. Plus, I work in a call center as admin so I don’t even try to argue back with patients sometimes when they’re so sure they’re right.
Also, thanks for a great explanation. Will try to reiterate 😊
My two oldest children were delivered by an absolutely wonderful OB DO. She helped me avoid a csection in my first birth, when things were becoming complicated, which later kept me open to being a candidate for open Fetal Surgery to repair my youngest son's spine. I still work with her for my routine GYN needs now, and I greatly appreciate the patient centered approach she took with me, vs the fear mongering csection push I got from her partner, who is an MD.
I only had 1 experience w/OD. I was having excruciating pain in my neck. She would NOT order an MRI. I ended up w/a pain specialist who Did want an MRI. It showed several herniation n he put in the hospital for an epidural. Thank God! I don't have a very high opinion of OD's because of that experience. So sorry to all the good OD's out there.
I had a similar terrible experience like yours. Things like this can cause real harm.