Living With The MG ZS | Electric Car | No Home Charger
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- čas přidán 1. 03. 2022
- This week on the DoneDeal CZcams channel we're test driving the new MG ZS, however as we've already filmed a first impression video, we decided to document our week in the MG. The goal is to see what it's like to drive an electric car day to day. Do we suffer with range anxiety, what hacks have we learnt along the way and is it possible to own one without a home charger?
The MG in Ireland ticks a lot of boxes:
- It's an SUV
- It's fully electric
- It has a range of over 400km
- It costs less than €35,000
For this reason it probably is one of the best value cars on the market. Value being the key word as it's far from cheap in terms of build quality. The finish is far superior to the previous version, it comes with plenty of tech and even some auto pilot assistance!
We hope you're able to learn something from this video and thank you for watching. - Krátké a kreslené filmy
i bought mg zs and trust me its really good car
I have had my ionig (28 klw) for 4 years every November it gets left in an open car park at Gatwick airport for 2 weeks, it never looses battery. I have left it on my drive for a month in February whilst I was in New Zealand, it never lost any charge. As in Ireland here in the UK Ionity chargers are a second mortgage so should always be avoided. Yes home charging is great I can fill up for €1.88 but I know lots of EV owners that do not have their own chargers , these days it's not an issue. So go for an EV, not only are they great fun to drive but you are saving the planet and preserving children's health
That was a very good review and well presented. Answers a lot of questions. 👍👍
Thank you very much Ronan. We're delighted you enjoyed it.
Nice one, haven't seen a bad review yet in this car, they've really stepped up their game and you've shown you don't necessarily need a home charger to get around. Range anxiety is not really a problem for 80% of ppl. For most then it should be a done deal ;)
Haha we love the pun. The new MG ZS is really impressive. The proof is in the pudding with how well they're selling. We recently spoke to a few dealers who are completely sold out until 2023!
thanks for the video expecting mine end of April
Great video mate! Keep it up
One of the best reviews I have ever seen on this car very realistic and very informative well done
Thank you so much! We really appreciate it!
That was such a helpful video. I just bought a MGZs and plan on getting a charger installed in my house.
Brilliant video. very well thought out and presented
Thank you very much Kevin!
Awesome pls do a camping test over night….. that’s very important for me, hvac , battery consumption. After15 some hours.. thanks.
Very informative video and honest answers to the daily important ev question thanks for the review really enjoyed it
Great to hear that George. Thanks so much for the positive feedback.
Excellent concise video, love your honesty. I have one of these on order and can't wait to say goodbye to petrol.
Thanks Phil. Good luck with the new car when it arrives and do let us know how you find it!
My bro has this car and he raves about it. Reckons he gets 250/260 easy. He said if you do motorway driving, get behind a truck it'll dramatically reduce consumption.
Beautifully done , but do try the authentic dry non oiled toovar dal ( i think u are cooking with masoor) the results are yummy if u finish with a thalipu of cumin mustard seeds & curry leaf & a squeeze of lemon juice
I charge a 40kw Leaf at home overnight and from empty to full is €4. So 10 cents per KW or €7,20 for the MG. You can't buy a gallon of diesel for that. I'd never go back to ICE cars. Seriously considering the MG just for the better range over the Leaf.
Ultimately it depends on your annual mileage. For ourselves, diesel would need to go up to £3.50+ a litre to get close to us breaking even for our main SUV.
This MG is the model I'm looking at, but not until 2025-26 I suspect..
@@stuartburns8657 how did you calculate that?
@@verygoodbrother Somewhat roughly ;) but as follows:
2016 diesel Nissan Qashqai (in the UK)
£20 pa Road tax.
Loan 0. Paid off. Assume trade in value of 8k?
Insurance £220 pa
£60 pm fuel (4k annual miles) - 55mpg avg.
Price of the 'cheapest' same specification EV matching the Nissan 30.5k
Home charger £800.
Let's say £120 per year to charge / fuel?
So 5 year loan for 23k (assuming I can trade in mine for 7k paid) is £411 (2.9% apr)
I'm not doing pcp just hp..
Road tax £0 (saving £20!!! Yay)
Insurance £340
So I'm £411 worse of with higher loan repayments.
£13 pm (over 5 yrs) for the home charger
£10pm charging
Insurance extra £10pm
£443 extra on the family budget and I'm paying the majority of that off for 5 years.
So 4,000 miles at 55mpg at £3.50 a litre is approx £1,200.
Given the Nissan only has 45k miles, that's a lot of dead tree juice isn't it?
Even at those prices lol
It's simply not an instant win for everyone
When you have an EV that will cover more than 99% of your journeys, you won't even notice when range you have.
Sounds like I need to live in Ireland considering the electricity prices you're naming. High rate we're at 0,22 eurocents and low (night) rate at 0,24 eurocents per kWh. And that is on an "old" contract with a fixed price for a few years. If you sign a new contract now it's usually around 1,5-2x as high here in the Netherlands.
EV batteries dont lose energy overnight. The predicted range is based on the state of charge, the battery temperature and the most recent style of driving. So its possible to arrive with say 100 miles of range but wake up to 95 in the morning. But I have woken up on hot summer morning to see a few miles more than the cold wet night before.
Very interesting and great points! We look forward to testing one in the summertime!
Great video; thanks for sharing. Even though you said the Ionity chargers are "expensive", can you compare this cost with petrol prices on the same mileage that you drive? Will you deem it to be expensive then?
I hear you about not having the convenience of home charging. Here in Hong Kong, the majority of EV owners (including me) live in apartments and do not have home charging. We get by with Supercharging (if it's a Tesla), public chargers, destination chargers and chargers at work.
I’m lucky enough to have a home charger, but it developed a fault so I’ve been relying on public charging. It hasn’t been a problem at all and I have never suffered from range anxiety. It has actually saved me money as many of the ChargePlace Scotland/Tesco chargers are free so I’ve spent £40 on charging in the last month, including a week-long driving holiday. The real problem is queue anxiety. The rate of new charger installations is not keeping up with the number of EVs on the road so it’s a problem that is just going to get worse.
Good review. I have an MG ZS EV Long Range Trophy Edition on order. The lead times are huge in the UK though, which is disappointing. After looking at all the other alternatives in this price range, its just a no brainer. For the level of quality, features and tech, nothing comes close for value. Loved my test drive I just wish it would get here sooner.
Hi John, thanks so much and we're delighted to hear you have one on order. Unfortunately lead times on most cars is now very long. I've began advising. people to start test driving and looking into their next car 6-12 months in advance of wanting it.
We hope the next few months go past quickly so you can collect your new wheels!
Thank you very much for your hard work in doing a detailed review. I have a query, does it provide the same speed when the charge dropped to its last limit.
Thanks Safour. I'm not sure I fully understand your question. What do you mean by 'dropped to its last limit."''
@@DoneDealMotor thank you very much for addressing my question; when the battery charge drops to 10% or 20%, does the vehicle gives same speed like when it was charged to 100%.
@@safournavy From a driving point of view? Yes, I believe so however I didn't drive it at that low of a battery %. Hope that helps :)
You can charge the car while you are inside using the radio?
Why did you use the theme music from The Tarantula Collective CZcams channel on this video?
Fast charging is best described as putting u98 or u100 octane petrol into you u91 car
Is it better than an ID4?
I'm a bit confused about this socket types, can you charge the ZS EV with this CHAdeMO or CCS2 sockets? Does the plug come included with the car? or do you have to buy it separately?
The MG ZS EV does not use CHAdeMO it is CCS. If you need a CCS cable it is sold separately which is something I really think MG should rethink given the price of the car (you can buy cheaper 3rd party cables though). It does come with a standard plug charging cable (Granny Charger). All rapid charging units (like Ionity etc.) have their own tethered cables. It's when you want to use destination chargers that you'd need your own CCS cable.
home charging cost me £8p per kw from 21:30 to 2:30
For those that didn't do the math, the charge at 10:00 cost €0.73 per kwh or $0.78 (£0.62). But home prices in the UK is about £0.40 per kwh (Jun 2022), I am guessing similar in the EU. So I don't see how EV can save cost in Europe, unless you are in the US or Asian where electricity prices are still relative low.
Aound €0.20 per kWh at the moment in Spain, plus some towns, especially by the beach are now providing free semi fast (22kw) charging. They’re also giving out 7k subsidies towards new evs under 40k in my area so here it’s quite appealing.
@@Adam-dp2xq Good for Spain, UK already removed all subsidies and electricity is around £0.40 per kwh. In Asian and US, I think they are still under $0.15 per kwh. But again, petrol is £2 per liter now, EV is still cheaper to run. It just everything becomes so expensive.
@@badminverse2136 Yeah im surprised the UK isn’t doing more, the government here has already cut tax on fuel by 20 cents and done similar things for electricity prices.
@@badminverse2136 Currently paying 7.4p per kWh on night rate in the UK. If you are home charging you can get a night or EV Tariff from most providers. Electricity has always been cheaper at night due to less demand. Subsidies here are rubbish £1500 off the cost of a car and now nothing for installing home charger. Ireland's current subsidy is €5,000 euros for car purchase and €600 towards a home charger. Would imagine most EU countries are more generous than our sadly sinking bit of Real Estate.
would charging the car all the time with public charger (fast cherger) affect the battry life of the car?
Its heat that leads to battery degradation, so yes it will affect it but not massively.
Unlikely, that is why EV's have charging curves. They have an optimal range when it will charge at it's fastest rate, then slows down so as not to damage the battery. Hence why most figures quote the 10% - 80% charging speeds as that is typically what most cars optimal range is. After 80% the charging rate slows significantly to protect the battery. Over time though it will have some degradation.
I have a strange question. I hope to get one (though the waiting list is enormous. In Thailand where I live, the MG ZS EV is a connected car which I don't like. I have some chats with people on this and the question now is where the antennas for this are because I want to be able to disconnect them. Any idea?
What u mean it’s connected? Like yr mobile phone being already connected to China?the chips in yr phone? Leave yr mobile at home, turn it off. If u r worried about the car being connected, don’t start the damn car!
@@jacobheinz8236 If I am connected with my mobile. Who cares, but if my car is permanently connected by eSim or something like that, that means governments, businesses, and hackers can take control of driving, charging and every aspect of my car. Something I prefer not to.
I have mg zs 2023 new car full charge give me 283 miles
on motorway or town driving?
If you don't have phone charger don't waste your time buying an electric car.