How far does the MG ZS EV go on a full charge? SURPRISING results in Australia summer eco range test
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While not that relevant for day to day driving we thought it would be cool to do it just out of interest, plus it was a great day for a drive…..although using air con would have been better!
To achieve the best possible range, we took as much weight out of the electric car as possible and chose a warm 30-34 degree day with slight breezes and as flat as possible route.
Travelling south from Brisbane to Byron Bay in NSW and returning to Brisbane we drove at a maximum of 90km/h and didn’t use any air conditioning or other accessories, besides the radio in the infotainment system.
Total distance achieved on a full charge was 303 klms with an average consumption over the test of 12.9kWh per 100klms and average speed of 63km/h. Total energy consumed to recharge the battery after the trip was 50kWh and we provide some commentary on what makes this figure up given the MG ZS EV battery capacity is only 44.5kWh.
We’ve included some commentary and screen shots of the various dash and charger stats over the day and a sneak peek of the stunning day it was on the Gold Coast with a shot of Palm Beach.
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It would be interesting to do the exact same trip again doing everything normally. So AC on, full “daily” load, normal acceleration, cruising at the speed limit, etc. just to see how the “real world” consumption compares to this test.
Well that was so interesting on many levels. I’m in Perth now, having spent 10 years in Brisbane back in the 70,s and we have temps up to 39 in summer, so the glass roof just got crossed out, mind you I’ve only seen one Mg Zs Ev here so far at the annual ev gathering. General stock is yet to arrive.
I’ll be saving this and replaying again to get up to speed with all the jargon, before the trip to the “dealer”. Thanks for all the effort you took to make this Utube. Cheers John
The glass roof is standard in the Aust model ZS EV so you cant opt out of it unfortunately. Next summer I am thinking of getting a lightweight reflective foil windscreen shade and cutting to fit and placing that between the fabric shade and glass roof to see what difference that makes.
think you need to do this with air-con on to give it a real-world try.
I usually get about 13.5 kwh/100km on normal mode and aircon on all the time.
I accelerate at the same rate as the petrol cars but will try to regen as much as possible when I stop. Only use the brakes for that last few meters. The average speed is around 40kph (normal city driving)
I also found that sport mode does not use more energy if you accelerate at the same rate. It seems the only difference between E,N and S is throttle mapping.
As for the battery coolant being cold, it uses the aircon to cool down the battery. The heat exchanger is under the charger.
Fantastic mate, very informative..
Hi Nayan, thanks for watching and feedback. Cheers.
nice video.
I got my MG EV ZS at the end of January from the same salesman at Springwood MG. I absolutely love my MG and regularly use MG Pilot on my fortnightly trips to Maroochydore. I would be very interested in seeing the same trip with aircon and at a speed closer to the speed limit. I love watching all your videos but this is the best so far. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for watching Peter and please Subscribe to the channel if you haven't. MG Pilot is perfect for a Maroochy trip, not a bad feature on a car of this price. We will have many more road trips coming up, just need to find the time :)
Excellent video, thanks. Looks like the warmer temperatures in Australia really help battery performance compared to the much cooler climate here in Scotland.
Yes, the warmer climate seems better for battery performance. Look forward to visiting Scotland at some point to test out for myself :)
Thank you very much for showing your electric consumption in your MG, very understandable for my Dutch ears. We now have the MG ZS EV for 6 months and our rate is on average for 3600 km 23,4kWh/100kms. Compared to your car in the hot summer .. horrible. We had a lot of cold days and using the car in N and Regen standard with every day using the perfect heater. I'm looking forward to an MG update giving the choice to reset consumpution to kms per kilowatt. As in the sixties was normal in Europe, btw, I'm 73 now and a lot of experience with cars as hobby. As you can see Rover (SD1) is my icon. Also had the P6 en several Triumphs. Even once had a Holden, how about that. And my workplace looked as yours, love it, everything you may need nearby. I'll remember you when visit PayPal, your efforts and wisdom regarding electric vehicles are greatly rewarded . Thanks again. JAcob
I like your windscreen band tint addition but I’d prefer it all the way down to the camera housing ending.
Nice video, on full range journey's where I will be travelling at set cruising speeds I would always choose the lowest regen possible, not Kers3, for me it always results in a higher miles Per kWh figure .
The Hyundai/Kia EV's do well as they have regen paddles that give you 0% regen (coast mode) .
You can also 'mimic' 'coast mode' on the ZS by engaging the ACC then dropping the set ACC speed down but maintaining a higher speed than set .
I’ve been over Mt Hotham at ~ 6000 ft and because it’s slow and windy the return consumption in our Tesla was very economical......just like heavy slow city traffic.
THANK YOU FROM SKEGNESS UK A BIT WARMER THAN HERE ,I HAVE ONE AS WELL GREAT CAR
fyi the bakery just up from intersection on Palm Beach Avenue there where you parked makes the best pies.
Thanks Barry, will check them out next time.
I agree with Kelvin do the real world test it would be interesting. thanks
Thanks for watching Ricardo, we will do. Cheers
I would use 40 psi as a minimum tyre pressure.
Looks great, do you happen to know if the ZS EV has he function where if you hold the lock/unlock button on the remote it closes/opens the windows ?
Hi Andy, thanks for watching. No the ZS EV doesn't have that functionality currently. maybe a software update in the future.
@@ElectricCarAustralia Always enjoy your content !! Yes, sounds like hopefully that could be done via an update, looking to
get the same vehicle shortly, so madly researching !!!
I keep my tyres at 38... seems fine...
Good effort! 11.6kWh/100km is a really good effort. I am particularly interested in the dashboard cover you have fitted -- is that a commercial product, or do you have access to sewing talent? I find when driving into afternoon sun, all I can see is a reflection of the dashboard! Also had to get sheepskin seat covers as MG seats got red-hot if parked in the sun.
The granny charger off our solar system is enough for everyday travel, with a 50kW charger 3km away if we need a boost in a hurry. MG in NZ gave to early adopters $500 worth of credit with ChargeNet, who have good coverage of the "Shakey Isles"
Hi Dave, thanks for watching and the comment. The Dashmat was a genuine MG accessory purchased from our local dealer for approx $75AUD, details here: mgmotor.com.au/owners/accessories/mg-zsev/ Sounds like you have settled into happy EV motoring with the MG as we have. Great little car. Stay safe and fingers crossed for only little shakes on those beautiful islands.
Our Tesla charges fm 0000-0400 = 28kwh@11.88c. So 250 kms costs us $3.60.
I expect our MG will be around $5.00 max
The coolant tank is just the header tank and perhaps not in the flow loop ?
I think your right.
Excellent review. Now if only the Australian Government would get on board with the rest of the world, and give us tax breaks and incentives to ditch ICE cars. With the current purchase price difference, I see absolutely no financial reason to make that switch just yet.
Hi Greg, thanks for watching and the comment. Agree on the $. Unless you are doing reasonably high kms the numbers don't stack up in Australia. Main reasons we went EV are health and environmental.
Are there many EV charge points in Oz? Might have been worth it to stop and charge for 20mins, heck even a little longer while you take a quick dip. Also, I wonder if leaving the sunroof on tilt would have a big effect on your range, certainly a lovely sunroof.
Hi Andrew, thanks for watching and Subscribing. We are starting to get a reasonable amount of chargers along the Coasts. More are needed inland in regional areas. check Plugshare for numbers. Not sure on the sunroof, I dont think it would have a big impact however I did try it opened slightly but with the blind flap's to much in the wind. Had to have blind closed due to strong sun.
The question is, what difference would it make running the aircon and driving to speed limits? Good video.
Another video!!
Know/understand your True Air Speed (TAS) if you want to know how to achieve best economy.
@@davidpearn5925 I thought that was peculiar to aircraft?
@@3000Robbo it is and it is to an EV if range is an issue.......the alternative is a B-double @ 100kph if it’s a direct headwind.
@@davidpearn5925 like the idea and thinking about an anemometer mounted on the hood. Not watching the kilometers per hour but keeping the speed at stabile knots. :)
When you showed us you had 143km left, I noticed you has it in Normal mode. On economy it would have shown more. I've had my EV for 3 weeks now, loving it here in Adelaide.
Hi David, thanks for watching. Not sure what section that was in but all travel was done in economy mode must have just been when I was flicking through the menu, no impact on the range test though. Congrats on the new purchase.
What camera and editing software do you use?
Hi Grace, thanks for watching and please Subscribe. I use Go Pro 7 Black, Motorola Phone and was using Pinnacle Studio 24 but now using ShotCut
Are the local charges at the coles in Rochedale and other Westfield centres free to use? Or do you have to pay a subscription or something? Thanks
Hi Wade, thanks for watching and the question. The Rochedale ones are free and you need to use the ChargeFox App or RFID card to activate. Each location is different. Best way to find out what each location offers is to visit Plugshare.com on a desktop or Download the App and search for chargers in your area. Plugshare will provide all the information you need. Cheers
Greg
@@ElectricCarAustralia thanks for that. Have you heard anything about the battery not holding charge etc in the future? I might be way off but similar to how a phone or any rechargeable battery it doesn’t last as long as when you first bought it. For example….263km range, will that slowly be less and less as the battery deteriorates over the years? Any warranty to cover that side of things?
Hi Wade, yes the batteries will degrade over time and manufacturer warranties do cover a certain percentage of degradation. For example a battery might be warranted to 85% of original capacity at the end of 8 years normal use. What's normal could be debated and all warranties will of course have some sort of conditions. There is limited information available on specific vehicle/brand degradation as it depends a lot on how the battery is treated. As with petrol/diesel engine/gearbox etc. there is no specific info available on the durability decline of these. It is also an individual thing as to how much loss of range you would tolerate before you looked for a battery replacement. If you look after a battery and live in an 'average' climate my gut feel is you should get 12-15 years or 300k-400k out of a battery before the range reduction might become an issue. Again lot's of variables around this but based on what I have read on R&D testing, current liquid cooled battery management technologies and real world feedback from early model Tesla's this sounds reasonable. Cheers
I saw that you started with a voltage of 451v as opposed to 455v at full charge with no electric components running. Have you been experiencing a drop in the voltage over the period you have owned?
When was the BMS software last updated/ when was it last taken into the MG garage? Cheers
I just purchased a Mg Ev mine is 452v when full.
@@MrHsv123 are you in Australia or NZ? I’m getting one next week from Auckland NZ. I’m asking this because ANZ MG cars have their own set of software, model etc
I’m in Australia.I’m loving the Mg .you will love it.
@@MrHsv123 cheers mate! 🤞
Hi Raghu, thanks for watching. No I haven't experienced any voltage drop. Not sure what BMS version it has and I haven't had it back to MG for any updates.
Very interesting comparison.
Btw, may I know the prices for MG ev Vs petrol version in Australia. Thanks
The driveaway RRP cost is:
MG ZS EV $43,990 AUD
MG ZS petrol $21,990 AUD
Hi Rajajothi, thanks for watching. The equivalent petrol spec ZS is $25,990 drive away compared to $43,990 for EV.
Hi Stephen, the direct comparison specifications petrol model equivalent is the ZS Essence at $25,990. Cheers and thanks for watching.
@@stephen7630 That's a big price difference when battery prices are supposed to be getting cheaper. $US100 per kwh I believe. $18,000 battery cost? That's something like $400 per kwh! The rest of the drive train has less parts so should be cheaper. The battery should be no more than about $5000 for 44.5 kwh.
Will MG offer a 64kwh battery.
Hi Hen, probably a question for MG. I haven't heard of anything along those lines. I really think they are chasing the lower priced EV market at present so cant imagine batteries getting much larger in short term unless cell prices come down and availability goes up.
@@ElectricCarAustralia when the battery needs replacement in 10 yrs or so I am sure there will be a 64kwh aftermarket option.
There is a revised ZS out now, slight changes. Front is more Ford looking over current Mazda look. Updated ZS EV is supposed to come out in '22 with a larger battery, bigger battery will increase price substantially.
Sad news, the Victoria Govt, and I assume other states, are introducing Alternate Fuel Source Taxes on EVs and PHEVs where you will have to show your odometer at the start and end of each year, plus a pic of your speedo and number plate. We will be charged 2.5 cents per km for EVs and 2.0 cents for PHEVs . If you travel interstate or go on a dirt road, you will have to prove it with "documentation". If you do, say 20,000 kms in a year, this will add $495 to on top of your registration. I can tell you how I know in private DMs, but I suggest people start complaining to their local ministers now. This is the replace the fuel excise they get from the Federal Govt at 43 cents per litre. I argued with them today that it was too high and that if they must bring it in, something like a 1/4 of this amount, would be more reasonable.
Down the road, I wonder what the tax on EV's will be when they take over the road more. Norway have equivalent of about $1.50AUD/day, victoria just brough in 2.5c/km. That would add about 50% to the cost of the EV trip. I think we can only rely on their being no tax for maybe the next 5 years or so? Trying to get this to stack up financially is hard. By my math it would take well over 200,000km for you to break even in cost compared to a MG ZS non EV, and if there is a ever a EV tax that would blow out to well over 300,000km. Hard to justify. Savings on services (which seems to me to really be only oil change, oil filter, and timing belt) is almost negligible really.
Hi Secto, yes everyone's budget is different, so definitely a personal choice like any purchase. Service costs are looking like being about 25% of that of the petrol ZS based on info from Dealers. Of course you also have to consider the health and environmental benefits which are significant.
The car gets lighter as the fuel is consumed............right :))
That's it....we release those electrons into the atmosphere.
My Mg never ever gets more than 220km at 100kph speed. A lot less If air conditioning is on. 60kph is not a normal country drive speed. I like my MG it is not great for Melbourne to Port Fairy without going out of my way to use a rapid charger.
Agree, we need more chargers (w reliability guarantees) to fill in these gaps.
@@ElectricCarAustralia fast charging costs more then running a normal ice car. if fast charging it's an utter waste of time owning an ev.
i own a nissan leaf btw.
@@isaachunt5799 not in Australia.
Without AC in Queensland - yea your mad, anyway normal driving is 120 on the dial on the main freeway anything less is simply cheating. As a comparison my V8 mustang did 8.2l/100 Melbourne Sydney return over 1800km locked in at 120 with AC.
Nice! Better economy than my V8 Ford F150 used to give me.