Toyota with rattle/knocking noise coming from steering column.
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- čas přidán 20. 08. 2024
- This 2013 Toyota Camry is in for a rattle noise coming from the steering when driving down the road. I also has a knocking noise when shaking the steering wheel from side to side. Any one would mistake this noise for a bad steering intermediate shaft. But its not.
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Thank you so much bro! i have the same camry and a mechanic said its the intermediate shaft. He tried to charge me $900 dollars but thankfully I stumbled across your video. Thank you so much!
Good tutorial G Auto, I figured out how to lower the entire steering (12mm nuts X 4) column as you suggested and it did save me time and much less disassembly, I added a bit of GP grease to the damper cavity with a new damper and my rattle and knocking has been corrected. Thank you!
I've got a 2014 Camry with exact same noise. Got all excited thinking it would be easy after seeing your video matched my noises..as I watch your video and you came back with it all tore apart i was like , yea no , don't think I should do that lol
I’m over here dying laughing bc I said the same thing 😂😂😂
yes LOL "Oh, well damn, I can do that...... No. No, I cannot."
Omg 😳 that's been driving me crazy hearing the rattle on my Camry 😫..thank you 😊
I had the same noise on my wife’s Venza. Was driving me mental where it was coming from so I dove in deep determined to solve this. I saw this video but my damper was fine. The problem is the gapping between the metal worm to plastic pinion gear. Fortunately I have a friend who does specialty plating for the aerospace industry. Ultimately I was able to solve this using one of his processes. I’m going to offer a service so others don’t have to replace the entire column for $1,800 only to have the same problem down the road. I had no choice because I bought two salvage columns only to have the same issue.
Hey Chris, amazing thanks. I have the same noise for my 2009 Venza. I'll try Auto G's recommendation first, but would love to get in in touch if it's not the damper!
@@tightreigns Hi @tightreigns I have the same car and problem like yours, can you gave me an update when you fix it, and what's the part# for the part. Thanks
Hey @@ntnkyt
I had the damper replaced by my mechanic. It wasn't damaged, so it wasn't a surprise it didn't solve the problem. However, it's good to know that the part fits an 2009 Toyota Venza, which wasn't clear based on my research.
In anticipation of this I purchased an intermediate steering shaft and had that changed too. It didn't solve the issue either!
My mechanic suggested that changing the power steering rack & pinion would solved it, which I'm yet to try. Sounds like what @chriszbodula1894 is talking about above 👆
Whatever he did, he made the rattling noise a lot more subtle, so you hear it less often, and when you do it's not as loud. If I can sell my car like that, I'll be happy.
@@tightreigns Thank you for the response and info, I Appreciate it. 👍
Any update on the venza rattle ? My wife's car rattles like crazy going in a straight line but goes away with input Left or right .
I just had to do that on my 2015 camry today. Thanks to this video it made the job easy. Thank you sir.
Thank you so much, i have a prius 2015 model the mechanic could not figure out where the noise was coming from your video really helped a lot.
Same part/pn for 2011 Prius?
Glad you posted this! Now I KNOW what is wrong with my 2013 Toyota Avalon hybrid. SAME ISSUE
Unfortunately, i already replaced the intermediate drive shaft lol
My RAV4 has the same problem. The mechanic will help me to replace part next week. Hope it works. Thank you so much for your video!
Replaced and noise is completely gone Thanks again 😁👍👍
Thank you man, I was thinking it’s u-joint. But this is eye opening 👀 I wish if you showed us the steps how to drop the assy. I got Prius Plug-in 2014. the noise is disturbing and I removed the tire and was checking the shaft, rack & pinion, and the joints. But now thanks to you my focus is on that little trouble maker. Thank you once again.
Thanks for watching
Thank you so much for your video. The noise drives me crazy. The dealer cannot find anything and recommended me to trade in my 2017 RAV4!
Lol. Not just for that issue.
I owe you one buddy. I was feeling the play in the intermediate shaft, and I was thinking just like you said, I thought it was the intermediate shaft bushing, &I was getting ready to disassemble it to find what was wrong, and you just save me a whole bunch of trouble cuz now I can order the part before I pull it down... thank you my friend and I subbed and liked😊👍💯
Thank you for uploading this! I been needing to replace mine. I was worried about pulling the wheel and I thought you didn't have to and haven't seen any videos on it. Thank you for uploading and sharing
I need to do this to my rx 350 lexus and wondering if we need to disconnect or turn off the air bag some how
We have 1 prius 2010 and 1 prius 2009 with the same rattling. The service told us could be the steering box..😂😂😂. But now I'm sure it's your solution
Thank you so much!!! My brake disc was uniforms, and destroyed this piece. And begin the noise!
Damn Toyota, those cars should've been a recall for safety issue.
I say the same thing should definitely recall and create better quality piece
Which year? And what would be the safety issue.
2013 Camry, don't buy all Toyota Camry. They built in Mexico and used all cheap parts.@@TravesiaWallace
Immediate shaft is common failure in Toyotas even my Sienna has clunking noises when steering left or right.
Newer Camry models are built in Kentucky U.S.A. @@reddragon3787
this was sooo helpful! thanks! it was driving us crazy (my son's car)
Just got bit myself but you sir saved me wasted diag time. Hope this customer won't be too angry.
Don't feel bad it has happened to quite a few of us
How hard is it to lower steering column? I wish you would have showed the steps to do this
Thank you for sharing this I've been hunting this noise a while
Thank you so much for this video. My mom’s 2016 camry is making the same wierd noise.
I’ve been wondering my car sounded like for the longest time
As an update, I changed this $16 part and the issue is fixed.
Hey my brother thank u so much for showing this to us...very helpful👍👍👍
Perfect exactly what i needed. Well done.
My 2014 toyota Prius V had this noise clacking noise. 2 months, 4 diagnosis $350, replacement of strut assemblies ($600) found a mechanic familiar with the issue. Cost another $670 to end the troubles.
Hell yeah as a pro tech you probably saved me half a day. And your so right sounds dead nuts intermediate shaft. I know cause I just installed one and it seemed to fix it for a minute!
Thanks man. Just knowing what it is makes me feel better. 😅
I give you 2 thumbs up, I have the same issue on my 2013 Lexus ES 350.
So far I have replaced my CV axle, lower ball joint, strut mount cover, sway bars, brakes 😅😅😅. I) this is next to get the elusive clunk noise
The same problem with the Toyota Avensis (T 27), the same way to solve the problem, the broken part is the same, the repair cost 11 euros per part and about 4 hours of work done by me obviously.
Awesome video! Exact same symptoms on a 2012 Prius V. THANK YOU for the tip!!
Thanks. Its an honor to have you watching. Love your channel
@@gautorepair How did you know to look for that silly damper bushing? Can't believe Toyota doesn't have a TSB on this issue LOL 😅
I've been bitten by this before. Its sounds like its coming from the intermediate shaft. Believe it or not the Toyota parts guy directed me straight to this part.
@@gautorepair Just changed out this damper star bushing on the 12 Prius V. Took less than an hour, didn't even have to drop the column! Just removed the knee airbag, and sneaked in there with a 12mm socket to undo the 2 motor bolts and swapped it out with a mirror :)
Thanks for the update. I haven't done one on those yet. Fyi kia/Hyundai's have a similar problem.
Thanks, It worked for my Camry 2012👍🏼
I will guess that you had the Toyota job the first time before you had a KIA/HYUNDAI same problem which is much more famous, hehe, thanks for the short cut video.
Thanks for your support
I would've never thought it was the issue. But jeeze, what a mess to deal with.
THANKS, watched this and j c mechanics video to maximize my knowledge of doing the repair fast.
I have to do my mom 2016 camry I pray it works ill keep you posted brother
Please do
It worked 💪
Excellent
@@gautorepair if you don’t replace immediately with rattling noise will it cause the car to run worst or effect the driving. Toyota gave me a quote & cost is out of my budget right now.
@@TravesiaWallaceDealers are always much more expensive. You are better off finding an independent local mechanic like this video creator.
Dealer trying to charge over 3k for a new steering rack and labor. The said the bushing is not sold separately so I need to replace the entire rack. I found it on eBay for $7 and fixed it myself.
They know better. The part number is in their catalog. Its like a 10-15 dollar part at the dealer
Excellent presentation.
Yup- exact noises from our 2015 Avalon
Thanks Bro for this video, my Camry 2014 SE v4 has the same problem at low speed but high speed is ok,, make me crazy to find out exactly what part to need repplace, your video the best
Excellent video you just saved me a lot of money.👍
Damn that’s a lot of work for that tiny freaking part. Yikes I’ll just turn the radio up then, that’s what I hate about these new cars is how reliable they may be but have little things like this that aren’t so simple to change
Thanks, now I can tell toyota that is not the intermediate shaft.
Excellent video. I appreciate your help.
Yes, you with your help me fix my car thank you so much
thank you so much ❤❤❤from Philippines
Thanks for watching and your support
My 07 Camry steering wheel has excessive play. I bought a lower steering column shaft, I'm gonna install it to see if that gets rid of the play in my steering wheel. There's also a clunking noise when I'm coming to a stop, I believe it's my Coilovers.
thank you so much ths video saved me some money
I suppose this is not a cheap material from manufacturer to make savings, but is purposely made brittle. I read in MotorAge that a problem in "electric power steering" is the chance of motor seized. Then your steering is blocked. But when you grab the wheel and turn it with a lot of force this "thing" breaks and you can have steering back without the power assist. Sorry for the BS but i think that's why they made this brittle and not from metal. Any thoughts?
could be possible. I think its made of this material to cushion the two components. if it were made of metal sure it would last longer but would probably cause noise issues. I have seen many similar dampers in the forklift industry. I used to service BHS battery station which has a huge 3 phase electrical motor driving the hydraulic pump. It has a similar damper but way heavier duty for sure. After many years they too fall apart and cause a thumping noise when you activate the hydraulics.
The material is a compromise between hard and soft. It need to cushion the forces but also but strong enough to stay together. I add grease to them when I install new and haven’t had one come back other than electric steering motor failure
Thanks very much for this video i have a venda with same noise but I need some clarification but you have done it
Toyota avensis t27, same problem, same solution, thanks a lot!
You fixed the issue with the same part?
@@411nightnheaven Yes, I bought the part on Amazon and looked for a good mechanic who knows how to do that job. I live in Spain and Toyota was going to charge me around 3000 euros for the repair since they change the entire steering column. With this system I have spent €10 for the piece plus €150 for the work since although it does not have many hours of work it is delicate.
@@411nightnheaven Yes, you buy the part, you look for a good mechanic and it is solved, at the official Toyota company in Spain they change the entire steering column, they asked me for €3000, the part in the video is worth approximately €10, plus labor, in Spain €150 since it is a delicate job although it does not require many hours.
@@411nightnheaven yes
@@411nightnheaven It's a job for a good mechanic, mine told me it's a delicate job but he finally did it.
Ive replaced the steering shaft lower and intermediate. Still have this sound. Guess worse on bumps and when breaking from high speeds
Very good video; thank you for uploading it. There are no issues with the intermediate shaft (and its rubber seal) at the firewall entry point when the steering column is dropped? There doesn't seem to be a lot of wiggle room there if the intermediate shaft is not disconnected. JT from the 305.
I have a Toyota RAV4 from 2013 and this noise is only heard when the car is stationary and I turn the steering wheel left-right. Nothing is heard while driving.
I went to the car service and the guys lifted my car on the lift. Obviously, when the car is up, there is no noise when I turn the steering wheel because there is no load on the wheels.
How can you tell if it is the intermediate shaft? I have a Scion frs 2015 and has a much louder rattle and even more so when braking
Glad I decided to try to figure out what this is on my own - dealer 'found the issue' and quoted me $2k to fix the steering wheel column motor or something. Pfft they're all such scammers, it probably would have still been making this noise $2k later.
Going to try this out once parts come home.
This will also fix 2016+ prius but not earlier models.
Other than the annoying noise, would this be dangerous to drive like this? Also, would it cause wear to other parts that would be even more expensive to replace?
someone answer pls!!
I Got a mechanic to replace that part today.. I thought I had to get a new column until he mentioned that he replace them frequently
How long does this repair take? and where is the toyota part number?
My Sienna 2014 electric power steering make noise as well. I check with dealer they don’t sale it separately. I don’t know if I have the same coupler as Camry
It also seems to be a lot toyota 😡 recall it not right .
I recently replaced this part on my wife's car, and it stopped the vibration the car was having at high speeds, but did not fix the rattle. Do you know what might be the cause? The slight noise on the steering wiggle is gone, so I'm not sure where my problem would be coming from.
Please let me know as well, the issue is driving me nuts. I’m having the exact same issue like your wife’s car, rattle when above 70-75 mph as well as rattling going over bumps near the left wheel, haven’t started replacing this bushing but going to start real soon
@@mjkl614 It turns out I hadn't fully tightened a bolt after disassembling the steering column. The one that goes through the floor board, that connects to a spline. Was able to get to the bolt while the whole thing was still assembled. Hopefully this helps.
@@amdeloach Where exactly is that bolt? i'm only having the rattling noise over bumps. I'm thinking it's something loose and was hoping to get to it without taking everything apart!
@@markfrancis5751 It is the first connection coming up out of the firewall. I was able to access it without taking anything apart, but it is on the firewall side of the steering column, so will require some light contortion.
@@mjkl614Maybe you have bad top mounts on your suspension struts.
I need to do this on my car, wish there was an "upgraded" bushing or damper. I heard adding some grease helps too.
is it safe when u add some grease to it?
I have 2013 Venza and have the same noise when moving the steering wheel right or left while park or hit small pot holes/bumps when car moving slowly... Not sure to take the car to garage or do it myself (seem hard though)...
Had a mechanic friend change mine on my Toyota 2015 Camry a couple of weeks ago. Got rid of the rattling! Drove on interstate for 9 hours earlier in the week and drove local for few days, still no issues. Then 3 more hours on interstate turned in to get gas and now have a squeeking noise when turning wheel left or right. Not coming from the steering column. Sound like underneath the car now? Could he have done something wrong when changing the dampner? Worried about making it home!
That's usually the shaft rubbing against the rubber grommet where it passes through the firewall. pull the grommet slightly to the side, spray some white lithium grease in there, and turn the wheel back and forth to work it in.
Same case with some Lexus models.
Hey great video!!! I just dropped my steering column to replace the damper on my 2009 Highlander to find out the spindles are fixed without containing this plastic damper. I two-faced the intermediate steering shaft and ask struts last year already. I'm all out of ideas... Any advice?? Thanks 👍
Mine is making a similar noise on bumps only. Not turning steering wheel. Seems early for a 2015 SE with 35K miles? another video said to check for loose nuts on steering column area?
I have the same car with 98k miles. Does it on bumps and when I press on the brakes.
Thanks for this video! For the diagnosis, how can one know if it's the steering shaft or this damper before tearing everything apart?
This is quite tricky ill admit. It can easily fool you. I recommend just to go after the damper first. Once you remove the electric steer motor its easy to see the damage. Otherwise you will go after the shaft everytime because you will feel the noise on the shaft
hyundai has identical issue: ==> Hyundai Motor America is revising the warranty coverage for the rubber coupling in the motor driven power steering (MDPS) assembly on 2007-2015 Elantra Sedans, 2009-2012 Elantra Touring models, 2011-2014 Sonata Sedans, and 2011-2015 Hybrid Sonata Sedans to 10 years from the date of original delivery or the date of first use, or 100,000 miles, whichever occurs first.
Thanks for the advice. Im sure many will find this helpful
I have 2013 Camry but My car doesn't have same sound which you have underneeth of streering. My car has raddle noice when car pass on any bump or uneven road. If road is nice without any bump then there is no noice. I checked with michanic and it is said car has worn coupler in the electric steering motor drive. The couplers are $7 but installation is $320.00.. Is it true?
Sounds like he talking about the same issue you saw in this video. And yes this is a situation where the repair is more labor than parts
Hey this is a late comment but I hope you can give me an answer. I have a 2009 RAV 4. So far I’ve been experiencing a sort of sticky steering wheel. When I turn left or right, the wheel might get stuck in the position until I move it back straight. When it does get stuck and I free it, it sounds similar to the noise from the video. Kind of like a clunk when turning the wheel left or right. I just had my steering inspected and my mechanic says the intermediate shaft is fine. My next action was just to replace the steering column but do you think I’m also having a problem with just the damper? It sounds similar to your video albeit it doesn’t happen as frequently as in your video. Based off your experience, does it check all the boxes for the damper?
I does except for the sticky feeling. You may have multiple issues. You can start by checking the damper
@@gautorepair awesome thanks for the reply! Let’s say the damper is fine, what would be your next course of actions? I forgot to mention I got my suspension components checked and it all checked out okay. Could the motor itself be damaged? My dad said if the motor is damaged then it’ll either work or it won’t work. Not give me problems like this. This all becoming a headache lol I just want to fix it without having to swap out my steering column lol
@user-oh9tv8ul4c i would say to check individual components. If you have checked out the intermediate shaft and suspension continue to rule out other things like rack and pinion, etc. Something is binding up.
I will.check to c if my 2011 highlander
has same issue it.clunking left n right.
I like the way you make the short cut?
Damn it man !
How long did it take you to do that job?
Same part for Prius Gen3, 2010-2015?
@ GAR "You are My Hero! ...was at my Wits end! .I too had replaced. the intermediate steering column thinking that was it! now I know that's the Issue! Yey! Hey Bro! I have a 2011 Lexus RX 350 (which is a glorified Toyota right!) Anyways the same applies. correct? Is Enough to drop the steering wheel. as opposed to removing it completely. to get access to the motor assembly and replacing the damper/ star Cushing. I need to know before going at it myself. Please Reply? THANK YOU!!!
Yes it should be very similar.
@@gautorepair Thanks ! brother and should I Apply a little heavy grease? to the new one as to not dry out so quickly!
@chuyocaca4153 im not sure. I have had comments saying that you should, but personally i don't know. I would be concerned about the material maybe swelling if you use petroleum based grease. If you do i would use silicone grease. Again im not 100 percent sure on this.
I have the same sound and symptoms on my 2012 Toyota Camry but a mechanic diagnosed it as intermediate steering shaft replacement for $800
Chances are its not. This issue is very tricky and can fool you into thinking its the shaft
@@gautorepair Thank you for the video. I am checking with another repair shop
Bro thanks for this video, I had the same noise and found your video. My car is a 2012 Toyota Estima. My damper had disintegrated completely. Changed it out (worst part was the bolt holding the shaft half way down, make sure you take this out first before you drop the two bolts holding the column up at the front). Thanks for posting this video, really appreciate it.
It's the other way round for me. I have replaced the damper only to find that the old one was OK. Had no effect on the rattling noise. So I'm going for my shaft next.
I had the same noise on my wife’s Venza. Was driving me mental where it was coming from so I dove in deep determined to solve this. I saw this video but my damper was fine. The problem is the gapping between the metal worm to plastic pinion gear. Fortunately I have a friend who does specialty plating for the aerospace industry. Ultimately I was able to solve this using one of his processes. I’m going to offer a service so others don’t have to replace the entire column for $1,800 only to have the same problem down the road. I had no choice because I bought two salvage columns only to have the same issue.
@@chriszbodula1894Thanks for sharing. Since my last comment I’ve seen the same issue because of a play in the lower end of the steering electric motor. Parts tubing get worn out and bang against the shell of the motor. The usual remedy is stick a piece of thick rubber there. I haven’t got the time to do it myself yet.
I need to do this to my rx 350 lexus and wondering if we need to disconnect or turn off the air bag some how
Disconnect the battery then
Hey boss if this dampener is bad would it also casue alot of play in the steering wheel ? tie rods control arms and ball joint all seem tight
should have been a recall
Agree with you, man. I have a 2010 Venza with the same issue. But I don't want to spend money on this right now honestly...
Same thing 2013 toyota corolla s 280,000 miles 😢
I have a 2015 RAV4. My steering wheel sometimes gets sticky when making little adjustments like going around curves on the road. Do you think it could be caused by this damper starting to fail?
Very helpful hint video buddy. I drive a TOYOTA AVENSIS III ESTATE (T27) 2.0 D-4D (ADT270_) in England europe that's got an electric steering column and the steering does the same thing when I turn the steering wheel at low speeds. I don't know what to make of it. Is it bad tie rod ends? Is it bad CV joints? Is it bad suspension strut or bad strut mount and bearing or is it that it might have yhe same bushing as the Tacoma that you drive in this video. I am scared of spending a tonne of money to replace parts that don't need replacing and still not fix the problem. Do you think I might have the same problem as you? I would appreciate some advice please.
If its got the same steering its very possible. The noise almost feels like its coming from the steering intermediate shaft.
@indritademi9073 Have you fixed it??
Hi I bought this code reader but I seem not to be able to find transmission fluid temperature Do we have to get it update before we can see that information. Thanks
More o less how much money does a mechanic charge to fix this issue please ???🙏🙏🙏💰💰💰
It really depends on the mechanic/ shop. I can say the part is cheap should be no more than 15 dollars or so
Thank u sir❤👍👍
Hi, good morning, so I've been hearing a annoying noise coming from the engine of my 4-cylinder Camry 2012 when I accelerate. Before, it only made noise when I accelerated above 3,000 rpm. Then it dropped to 2,500 and now it's 2,000... I thought it was the water pump or some pulley or something, but I tested it by removing the belt and the noise is still there. I don't know what it could be. Anyone have some tip? What could be?
Hi. Does this fix work on a 2018 Rav 4 Hybrid. If so are there any videos Thanks.
My 2010 lexus has that same problem can that problem be solvethe same way.thanks
I winder what the part is for a 2010 lexus rx350. I have the exact problem
Is this specific to a certain model of the the 2013 Camry, like only the SE? I have a 2013 Camry LE, and my steering wheel is a tiny bit different and doesn't have paddle shifters.
It should still apply
Does a 2012 Prius have that damper? im having that noise going over bumps and cracks on the road.
How To repair Toyota auris 2014 steering wheel noise ?
How long did this job take you in total?
My 2013 Scion xB does that too.
I have been having the same clicking noise coming from my steering. Do you think the damper is used on Toyota Highlander 2005 ? I had no luck getting the info.
likely not- i believe 2005 highlander would use hydraulic power steering. the way you can check is under the hood if you have power steering fluid, then it is a hydraulic unit. check intermediate steering shaft & strut mounts
Thanks for video! The noise went away but my stability control system went on did anyone had that problem
My wife car has the same problem . Need to find a mechanic to do the work .
looking for one in South Florida. none so far