Tesla Model 3 Performance with soundproofing

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Komentáře • 389

  • @DanielZajic
    @DanielZajic Před 5 lety +113

    Best part of the video: the last 15 seconds. LOL

    • @MrBrander
      @MrBrander Před 5 lety +3

      Yeah. I laughed at that as well. :D Just think about all the people who see them knocking their cars, having a laugh and slamming their doors shut every now and then. :D

    • @cwarsvideos
      @cwarsvideos Před 5 lety

      it is excellent

  • @ChouduSieben
    @ChouduSieben Před 5 lety +93

    17:35 Spongebob and Patrick having a great time together. :D

  • @vg4902
    @vg4902 Před 5 lety +33

    It does change the tone to a lower pitched hum, which is more tolerable. Also db ratings aren't like a volume knob. An increase of 3db is a doubling of sound energy, or -3db is cutting the sound energy in half. So looking at your chart with your tires, it seems to be around ~27% decrease at 80km/h, 50% decrease at 100km/h, and a 20% increase at 120km/h, with an overall decrease of 0.6db or 20%. It does work relatively well. Is it worth it is a different question.
    How we perceive sound is also different than the db measurements. It's generally reported that it takes around 5db before you really notice a difference in volume, and 10db before it actually sounds like the volume has been cut in half or doubled.

  • @dantoes1
    @dantoes1 Před 5 lety +127

    Can you compare the noise leaking from music? Play in both cars the same song en compare that difference? Same with calling etc.

    • @danielpalmer8324
      @danielpalmer8324 Před 5 lety +11

      Yes That is what I want to hear as well.

    • @happykerbuj7461
      @happykerbuj7461 Před 5 lety +5

      @Bjørn Nyland

    • @d19sbp
      @d19sbp Před 3 lety +2

      I have gotten just the rubber seals and it makes a huge difference to sound quality in the car for the sole fact that it mostly eliminates the door rattle at higher volumes.

  • @1993eML
    @1993eML Před 5 lety +3

    hahaha det last 15-20 secounds was PURE CLASS. Thanks Bjorn & CO for making this type of videos.
    Greetings from Sweden

  • @SCWgreg
    @SCWgreg Před 5 lety +1

    Thank you Bjorn! Best sound-proofing effort, side by side research and testing yet. Interesting results. I was hoping for better outcome. And gracious gift to your friend with the referral code too.

  • @johnkechagais7096
    @johnkechagais7096 Před 5 lety +91

    You should now test the power usage for heating to see if it changed from 1.55kW per hour in the test you did before

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  Před 5 lety +15

      There no such thing as "1.55 kW per hour".

    • @LightSpirit24
      @LightSpirit24 Před 5 lety +9

      @@bjornnyland I think he means does it need less energy to keep the car heated because of the sound proofing insulation.

    • @kaasman78
      @kaasman78 Před 5 lety +3

      Don't think so. But due to extra doorsills maybe more comfortable because of less draft in the car?

    • @johnkechagais7096
      @johnkechagais7096 Před 5 lety +2

      insulation affects heat flow in a linear manner, where as sound is logarithmic, I think it will be close to the X now with the main loss remaining through the un insulated windows

    • @johnkechagais7096
      @johnkechagais7096 Před 5 lety +1

      Sorry that's an other way of saying kWh I just re looked at your HVAC test from a week ago, it was 1.5 KW, used for 10 hour period or 15 KWH. Now that the 3 is insulated you can see if it has made a difference

  • @tokobjork
    @tokobjork Před 5 lety +48

    Fun video. :) You also should have measured with a frequency spectrum analyzer.

    • @BogdanManciu
      @BogdanManciu Před 5 lety +2

      You can do this using the smartphone and an oscilloscope app. Try whistling into it, higher and lower pitch, also try the fft function on it.

    • @lauril1377
      @lauril1377 Před 5 lety

      You can also analyze the recorded sound afterwards with a spectrum analyzer software or a plugin for professional DAW. Maybe even the sound clips from this video can be analyzed.

  • @MrJonathanm50
    @MrJonathanm50 Před 5 lety +55

    This type of soundproofing will only deal with the high frequency noises. To reduce the low frequency rumble you need to go for something like leaded vinyl which of cause weighs quite a lot more...total car weight of this material would probably be between 50 kg and 100 kg...

    • @supaahflyy
      @supaahflyy Před 5 lety +15

      Is that what Rolls Royce use? They have the best sound deadning in the industry and I think I read somewhere about the new phantom that there is over 100kg of sound deadening material

    • @MrJonathanm50
      @MrJonathanm50 Před 5 lety +6

      @@supaahflyy I don't know but very possible...

    • @AS-ln3pl
      @AS-ln3pl Před 5 lety +5

      @@supaahflyy I had the Lexus CT200h. It weighed 200 kgs more than its sister model the Toyota Auris. The lexus was one of the quietest cars I have ever driven!

    • @vallef9799
      @vallef9799 Před 5 lety +5

      guy just throwed 1950 euro into nothing

    • @Veikra
      @Veikra Před 2 lety

      100kg is a bargain, my car is already 1995kg anyways. And it runs just the same with 400kg in the boot with the pneumatic suspension

  • @ingerasulffs
    @ingerasulffs Před 5 lety +22

    It's no ideal that you have 3 variables changing between the cars, wheel size, tire type and soundproofing. Even so, it's clear that the soundproofing is more pleasant, lover frequency. Both, however sound like an idling Enterprise, which is good shit.

  • @Raaaphael
    @Raaaphael Před 5 lety +3

    The reaction from the nocking on the rear quarter pannel was priceless!

  • @auris22dcat
    @auris22dcat Před 5 lety +12

    Knocking on heavens doors ... 😁 Well done guys, thx for that funny and interesting video!

  • @michaelpatterson8758
    @michaelpatterson8758 Před 5 lety +7

    Nicely done. I wouldn't undervalue high frequency reduction. This makes a huge difference in long term comfort even with similar overall db levels. Can't wait for the rain and gravel test.

  • @ME-cb1vw
    @ME-cb1vw Před 5 lety +7

    I did a similar sound proofing in my Ioniq, except the outer door panels, and i came to the same conclusion. But I only paid around 100€ for Material and did the work myself.

  • @thomaseriksson3182
    @thomaseriksson3182 Před 5 lety +1

    Finally! Really love all about soundproofing! Thanks! I hope you can test megahjul summer tires 19 Nereus/Winrun for example and do some noise test between them .

    • @pompiuses
      @pompiuses Před 5 lety

      Yes, and the Michelin Primacy as well.

  • @LightSpirit24
    @LightSpirit24 Před 5 lety +1

    Thanks for the video. I was wondering how much sound dampening we could expect if we did this, now we know. ;)

  • @mjpk987
    @mjpk987 Před 5 lety +27

    That last bit - priceless guys! :-D

    • @Raaaphael
      @Raaaphael Před 5 lety +3

      The guys around a surely asking them self what are they noking on there cars 🤣🤣 . Priceless

  • @josephfigliuolo7286
    @josephfigliuolo7286 Před 5 lety

    Thanks for the detailed table. I see what you mean by the e-tron!

  • @SCWgreg
    @SCWgreg Před 4 lety +1

    Nice taking it all the way!!! I’ve tried multiple door seal kits, and I have the roof band in place. What I’ve come to the conclusion is this... the road noise that comes in just is not absorbed anywhere. Not like a car that has a roof. It’s my belief that a lot of sound deadening comes from cars that have a roof with a liner and some insulation in it, like a party in a room with carpet, vs a room with hardwood floors (just echos)... and the Model 3 has the all glass roof (no sound deadening). Further most cars have doors with a window frame that buys you more seals around the window itself.

  • @M1kke78
    @M1kke78 Před 5 lety +1

    Good video, hope you are planning to do a rust proofing as well. It should have an effect to the noise too.

  • @lubricatedgoat
    @lubricatedgoat Před 5 lety

    That was an epic ending!! Speaks volumes!!

  • @nunopelicano4270
    @nunopelicano4270 Před rokem

    thanks for sharing, nice to see the comparison. I noticed that the gray car is coated with vinyl and this will also reduce the sound of touching the sheet metal, so it doesn't give such a test compared to the car that took the insulation.

  • @TempoDiRicarica
    @TempoDiRicarica Před 4 lety

    great job! I'm glad I stumbled across this video, because I wanted to do the same job on my Model3, but seeing the poor result I think I won't.
    it
    This job is right for car-audio enthusiasts, but I only wanted to do it for acoustic comfort.
    I think it's better spend my money on good tires with low Db values

  • @gani2an1
    @gani2an1 Před 5 lety +97

    great experiment... it was a waste of money ... but for you i think it was worth it ... because you educated your viewers... it adds value to your channel .... but you showed us that it is not worth it ....

    • @MrVario567
      @MrVario567 Před 5 lety +1

      Me too :-)

    • @RubenKelevra
      @RubenKelevra Před 5 lety

      The difference is quite substantial.

    • @dezz00002
      @dezz00002 Před 5 lety +1

      Did you listen to it with headphones?

    • @dezz00002
      @dezz00002 Před 5 lety

      @@bluebikerathar Agreed.

    • @Martinit0
      @Martinit0 Před 5 lety +1

      Should be more obvious effect on the sound system

  • @Halfgaar1
    @Halfgaar1 Před 5 lety

    keep on knocking guys! love this test!

  • @teslarex
    @teslarex Před 8 měsíci

    I had the Hankook EVO on my model S ana was very impressed with quietness, efficiency and smooth ride. EV specific foam liner, designed for efficiency.

  • @RJandCharlene
    @RJandCharlene Před 5 lety +3

    A lot of sound comes through the frame sides that are behind the rocker panels. Not sure how to describe it. But if you fill that hollow frame on the left and right side of the vehicle with sound deadening foam, it reduces road noise significantly

    • @drmehdiii
      @drmehdiii Před 3 lety +1

      I wish you could provide some pictures/links so we knew what you were talking about

  • @Joe-ud2hb
    @Joe-ud2hb Před 5 měsíci +1

    Close your eyes & just listen when doing sound comparison & you can tell every time the difference

  • @ASTZDomidragon
    @ASTZDomidragon Před 5 lety +1

    The last seconds. LOL, perfect ending guys! Two little boys playing with their big toys xD

  • @ppgg4052
    @ppgg4052 Před 5 lety +2

    In North America, the 18" wheels come with Continental tires that have soundproofing inside (some kind of thick white foam is glued on the inside of the tire thread). It makes a huge difference they are way more silent than my Nokian R3 winter tires. Tires soundproofing is worth investigating. I haven’t been able to find anything to soundproof my R3 tires yet.

    • @domg7359
      @domg7359 Před 5 lety

      The 18" pilot sport 4 come with the acoustic tech as well and is an amazing tire.

  • @Zedus-rl9hp
    @Zedus-rl9hp Před 5 lety

    I would insulate the doors and rear wheel arches on the inside. Is relatively easy to do yourself and also brings benefits for the sound system. The costs are, depending on the material, between 200 and 900 €.

  • @cucubits
    @cucubits Před 5 lety

    I think it's totally worth it but I'm planning on just paying for the materials and doing it myself. Also, looks like it could use some more heavy material to deal with low frequency sounds too. Oh this'll be a cool project!

  • @hammertimee777
    @hammertimee777 Před 5 lety +2

    The biggest misconception is that sound deadening "removes" the road noises. That is not the case. They simply absorb the sound waves and vibration and convert them into a different frequency that is less audible to the human ears. The noise is still there, but at a different frequency.

  • @crisholmurb007
    @crisholmurb007 Před 3 lety

    As usual a great video - my personal experience is trunk and door/window sills are most important to isolate. Wheel arches do not matter all that much - especially the ones in the front.

    • @PalleHellemann
      @PalleHellemann Před 3 lety +1

      Why don't You think the wheel arcs matter?
      My impression is that most of the noise is actual roadnoise, from the wheels. You can also hear the difference in the videos between the rough asphalt and the smooth one.

  • @josephfigliuolo7286
    @josephfigliuolo7286 Před 5 lety +1

    Both cars needed to have identical tyres to make it a valid test. I really like your videos keep up the great work.

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  Před 5 lety

      Check the table. I did tests on the exact same car before and after soundproofing. Results were nearly identical.

    • @Ricqu
      @Ricqu Před 3 lety

      @@bjornnyland Most of the noise ir tire noise. Try getting the wheel wells from inside sound deadened. Also, the bulkhead between cabin and frunk. Those are the best places so start always, don't know why this guy didn't attack those places

    • @PalleHellemann
      @PalleHellemann Před 3 lety

      @@bjornnylandBut using a spectrum analyzer would've shown if there was a difference in Soundlevel at some frequency bands. Just measuring the max dB is not right.

  • @n.j-7952
    @n.j-7952 Před 5 lety +4

    Love the ending😂

  • @yaufdorfer
    @yaufdorfer Před 5 lety

    With headphones there are clear differences in the video to hear, even with the wind noise. The lower frequencies are less annoying for me. I think most important are the wheel arches.
    And yes: smaller rim, higher tires and less running noise. Audi has done a lot for the acoustics (soundproofing glass, insulation, etc.). Thanks for the information. knock knock LOL

  • @ash98981
    @ash98981 Před 5 lety

    Interestingly Tesla's passenger compartments are built directly on the frame as are the motors, so Db levels are not effected but the frequencies are when soundproofing. I think you could get the same soundproofing effect (way cheaper) by soundproofing the doors and using thicker rugs, especially against the front passenger foot wells.

  • @PlanetCypher_
    @PlanetCypher_ Před 5 lety +5

    Maybe wheel arch and door package would be best option and cheaper, prob only 1.5 days to fit too.?

  • @NavarroOne
    @NavarroOne Před rokem +1

    I did a similar thing on my Passat B8 and mainly found a frequency change and interior pressure change that I initially found unpleasant. In cheaper older cars like Peugeot 206 it made a bigger difference. I have been contemplating weather stripping and soundproofing on my model 3 2022 but after seeing this video I think I will give it a miss. Switching from Hankook Ventus EVO 3 that the car was born with, to Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S and curious if that will make a noticeable difference due to the acoustic foam. Have the 19” wheels

  • @DimaStohr
    @DimaStohr Před 5 lety +1

    Hi. Most noise came from the windows, thet mean you can stir way more or thicker pads it will not reduce the noise in the Car. It gives you only the felling of proper door that's it, and the knocking on the door ore fender shows only the mode of the part ist moved, NVH science. Try to replace the door Windows and you will listen the different look at the cars like mb s- klasse ore bmw 7 series the windows are twice thick an more.

  • @tonieprawda
    @tonieprawda Před 5 lety +1

    Music studio soundproofing knowledge tells us that to remove low rumble the panel should be couple centimeters thick, and ideally should be similar to stone wool. But then comes the problem of the fact that vibrations are passed through the structural elements of the car, and get in though the gaps in the layers (like windows, air inlets), so there are limits

  • @glacieractivity
    @glacieractivity Před 5 lety +3

    The Sentry is probably going "WTF???" with all that knocking.
    You are funny and informative.
    It would be interesting to see "partial" proofing. Only wheel arches - vs only front doors - wheel arches + front doors - vs MC Hammer full treating) to see where the key improvement is found (in practice).
    So if Pavel is tempted - get a deal with the proofer. Testrun against MC Hammer after wheel-arches done. Then after front doors done (etc)
    That would be consumer advice at peak performance.

    • @glacieractivity
      @glacieractivity Před 5 lety

      Oh - while I am at it - I wonder how traditional rust-protection (Tectyly type) in the wheel arcs would help. Imagining how that healthy treatment (for Scandinavians) + door isolation would pan out.

  • @elmedinii.n
    @elmedinii.n Před 5 lety

    When i watch you both knocking on cars that is funny but the end was the best and great that are you helping the pawel to get more referrals because you don't need it you already have 1 million km of free supercharging but for the soundprofing i dont think it is worth the problem is in the windows 👍

  • @Veikra
    @Veikra Před 2 lety

    your car is lower frequency, more pleasant. Im currently manageing 71db with no added insulation in a 17yo 552 000 km audi a8l on old hardened continental 265/35 20inch, rough asphalt. On new asphalt i'll hit in the low 60 and even tickle in the high 50 at 100kmh. Im thinking of doing this to make it quieter. I think tires need sound deadener inside of them, just like in the maybach and some rolls royces

  • @tokepanduro7302
    @tokepanduro7302 Před 5 lety +13

    What they did to bjørns car was mainly to reduce resonance - the small vibrations of metal plates. They did nothing for road noise or wind noise. Seems that they used lots of time, energy and money not accomplishing much. I am astonished that people haven't taken the time to understand the challenge they want to solve. They just jump into it and make a half baked cake. To demand money for such job seems impudent. They should of course - after they removed the panels - have added Mass Loaded Vinyl to the entire cabin to block sound and also added foam to absorb sounds and vibrations. check out these guys for instance www.sounddeadenershowdown.com/

  • @vulpo
    @vulpo Před 5 lety +7

    Thank you so much for this great video. I was hoping that the sound-proofing would make a much bigger difference, but it did seem to help a little. A few observations:
    * I think wheels and tires are still the most effective way of reducing road noise. Hence I will not be getting the performance version of the Model Y I have ordered, since reducing road noise is more important to me than showing off with quick acceleration (and it's much cheaper, too). But I wish I could have both.
    * I think the gaps on the roof are gutters to allow water to run off when it is raining. Without the gutters, I think rain will flow off the roof into the cabin when you open the doors.
    * I would like to have seen a test of sound leakage with hands-free calling.
    * It is too bad that Tesla does not offer a sound-proofing package as an option. This could be done so much better, cheaper, more efficiently, and more effectively, if it were engineered into the design and done at the factory while the car was being made.

    • @vulpo
      @vulpo Před 5 lety

      More reasons to avoid the Performance version of the Model 3 (and Model Y) with its non-optional large wheels, low profile tires and lowered suspension are shown on this Engineering Explained video: czcams.com/video/H6sPc9dFsGw/video.html

  • @EfraKrajo
    @EfraKrajo Před 5 lety

    In the rain it will make a huge difference too, the soundproofing!

  • @seb.
    @seb. Před 5 lety

    Could you try to measure sound with/without some absorbing material against the glass roof? (Maybe your blackout/camping panels)

  • @AzraelIgnis
    @AzraelIgnis Před 3 lety

    Great job with the video.

    • @AzraelIgnis
      @AzraelIgnis Před 3 lety

      The only downside to soundproofing a car is spending all that money on material only to reduce sound by 3db isn't worth it to some. Cost vs diminished returns. Most people don't notice that much of an audible difference and will usually be unhappy with the results.

  • @AM-zn9di
    @AM-zn9di Před 5 lety

    Pawel looking fresh with that model 3

  • @lubricatedgoat
    @lubricatedgoat Před 5 lety +1

    Question: could Tesla use the multitude of speakers to create some sort of active noise cancellation? Maybe that would be a cheaper way to go for at least a small amount of sound attenuation.

  • @leegalecio
    @leegalecio Před 5 lety

    Would it be more of a change had they removed the seats and carpet and placed the sound deadening material on the floor and fro my firewall? From what I can tell between the S and the 3 is a lot more noise seems to come from the windows and the floor area.

  • @sketchpro12
    @sketchpro12 Před 5 lety +1

    honestly think most of the noise comes through the glass, the side glass especially seems way thinner than what was on my eGolf. Any products that help that aspect?

  • @DJRaffa1000
    @DJRaffa1000 Před 5 lety

    i would like to get the soundproofing .. but i should definately get paint protection film first .. that one is more important for me since i normaly dont drive for longer than 1h at a time

  • @Aureliius
    @Aureliius Před 5 lety

    The end is hilarious 😂

  • @jimwhitehead1532
    @jimwhitehead1532 Před 5 lety +4

    In your video, most of the sounds we heard came from tire noise in wheel wells, so maybe if they tried again with heavier insulation just in the wheel wells, it could cut the sound a lot.

    • @whuzzzup
      @whuzzzup Před 5 lety

      The sound from the wheels goes via the suspension and the springs directly into the cage. Cannot really dampen this.

    • @jimwhitehead1532
      @jimwhitehead1532 Před 5 lety +1

      @@whuzzzup You are partially right, its hard to dampen yet it can be done by replacing a few steel parts with "quiet steel" parts as was done in the Lexus over 15 years ago.

  • @peeweeon3
    @peeweeon3 Před 5 lety +1

    It helps on higher pitched sounds but not much ,most of the sound reduction comes from windows if the glass thicker like on high end mercedes and rolls royce that use about double the thicknes of ordinary cars and all the sound damping is done at the factory,plus the weight of the cars are a lot more than ev cars that are made to reduce wieght so ev cars will always have noise issues but rhats is just the nature of ev cars good or bad .

  • @joythought
    @joythought Před 5 lety +1

    The cost is too high but I love the results. The high frequencies that were cut are the unpleasant ones.

  • @usamericans6045
    @usamericans6045 Před 5 lety +1

    It sounds like the fundamental structure of the car could be better from a noise perspective. Not a lot aftermarket can do there. :/
    -Do you think the glass roof is also to blame? (And if so - have you thought about a custom cover for it, like with the sun shades?)
    -Curious to hear your long-term review. It sounded a little less offensive to me so I wonder if it was enough to make road trips easier on the ears.
    -Acoustic glass replacement where possible? Acoustic tint/film? (sounds expensive though..)

  • @cmd_f5
    @cmd_f5 Před 5 lety +30

    Not worth it, but cool test nonetheless. Great entertainment as always.

  • @karlnapp7564
    @karlnapp7564 Před 5 lety +26

    The glass roof is the problem. Cover the inside with a blanket or foam and you will see.

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 Před 5 lety +8

      I don't understand why Tesla doesn't make a model without the glass roof... The car doesn't suddenly become 50% more premium when you can see through the roof!

    • @pr7049
      @pr7049 Před 5 lety +2

      A roof curtain would help soundproofing and also isolation but you can open it when you feel like it.

    • @gvaley
      @gvaley Před 5 lety +5

      Glass roofs don't add much noise, if at all, mostly because the wind over the car is very much laminar. I hope, of course, that Tesla uses laminated glass for it.

    • @pr7049
      @pr7049 Před 5 lety +5

      @@gvaley But as hard surface it reflects downwards sharp sounds from inside..

    • @pmj_studio4065
      @pmj_studio4065 Před 5 lety

      Glass roof doesn't change anything (except that it's stiffer than metal roof). The gaps between glass panels cause some significant noise but it's quite easy to soundproof that.

  • @mannyr9225
    @mannyr9225 Před 5 lety

    I wonder how Pawel's vinyl wrap or bjorn's ppf has on the sound. Sounds to me like it could help a slight slight amount. Also what about window tint.

  • @philw4625
    @philw4625 Před 5 lety

    dB scale is logarithmic so small changes in the dB number equate to significant differences in perceived sound. even 2-3 dB is a significant improvement. Whether its worth it is a matter of personal preference. I suspect reactive sounds (going over bumps, stone chips etc) will be much less as the panels are less resonant.

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  Před 5 lety

      +phil watt But the problem here was that in two of my measurements, the noise went *up*.

  • @evlnte
    @evlnte Před 4 lety

    The drop is high/mid-range noise is perceivable from the recordings. But it means low frequencies are more detectable. I think brands like Lexus use foam and other soft insulation materials to block low frequencies.

    • @PalleHellemann
      @PalleHellemann Před 3 lety

      Foam doesn't block low frequencies - only the heavy butyl rubber material dampens the low frequencies.

  • @thethingonlymalehave
    @thethingonlymalehave Před 3 lety

    You need mass loaded vinyl or something similar to block tire or engine noise. And you can't just slap it in but you need to try and seal as much as possible. If you open the windows of a house near a busy street even a bit you have almost all the noise, not much difference with it completely open. Of course it's the same with cars.

  • @jordons7963
    @jordons7963 Před 5 lety

    You can definitely hear the different but not as much as I thought it would be from the start of the video showing all you got done to the car

  • @sethd85
    @sethd85 Před 4 lety

    I hope shops start offering this in the US. I mean I think I could do it myself, but this seems like something a tint installer or clear bra installer might offer.

  • @ASpec818
    @ASpec818 Před 3 lety +1

    great start, but the trunk is missing a layer of mass loaded vinyl which should go on top of the vibration dampening material. this would help more with road noise.

    • @barbecuetechtips6024
      @barbecuetechtips6024 Před 3 lety

      They didn't use any mass loaded vinyl in the car for some reason. Dumb because it would make the largest difference in stopping sound waves over all the other material.

  • @sklako
    @sklako Před 5 lety

    If you want to test same for Model X I am turning mine over to Bilkomponenter for full soundproofing next week (and LED bar addition).

  • @ericgold3840
    @ericgold3840 Před 5 lety +1

    Interesting data Bjorn, thanks. Sound meters are not filtered to match human sensitivities to different frequencies (which is somewhat a subjective matter between people anyway) so you may find that you like your sound-proofing more than the results indicate. Or not. Or you may be a victim of a placebo effect. Or the beneficiary of the placebo effect :-)

  • @Republic3D
    @Republic3D Před 5 lety +1

    Seems like the soundproofing removed the high frequency sounds. It's noticable on both rough and smooth asphalt, but more so on the smooth one.

  • @mohannadqaddoumi1379
    @mohannadqaddoumi1379 Před rokem

    You need a second layer of sound proofing, and also the rear doors should be better , most of the noise is from the back

  • @eubikedude
    @eubikedude Před 5 lety

    It would be cool if they could put some more damping panels and maybe part-fill cavities (where you don't need to access things) with some kind of foam or something.

  • @craigoneill4504
    @craigoneill4504 Před 5 lety +5

    The sound frequency is different and does make for a more muffled sound. Remember that there is a huge amount of glass in Tesla's which you can't soundproof. It should also make the car warmer in winter I would think.

    • @MrDomestosWC
      @MrDomestosWC Před 11 měsíci

      You absolutely can soundproof glass. Laminated glass has been out there for decades. Construction industry has even more products available to play with.

  • @DuncanCunningham
    @DuncanCunningham Před 11 měsíci

    Maybe it’s about the sound transmission from the wheels directly through the car. So bushing, ball joints, strut connections. The frequency is better in yours.

  • @Fla.3
    @Fla.3 Před 5 lety

    The last seconds were priceless 😂😂😂

  • @Jer_Schmidt
    @Jer_Schmidt Před 5 lety

    Does anyone know if someone does this in the US? I have one of the noisy classic Model S and would be interested in soundproofing.

    • @Ricqu
      @Ricqu Před 3 lety +1

      Just do it yourself.

    • @gg-ip3zo
      @gg-ip3zo Před 3 lety

      Audio shop

    • @Cloudrak
      @Cloudrak Před 2 lety

      Dynamat, Kilmat etc

  • @walterk8602
    @walterk8602 Před 5 lety +1

    Good conclusion, not etron but better.

  • @NIAtoolkit
    @NIAtoolkit Před 5 lety +3

    Now that the sound deadening has taken care of the higher frequencies, next step is getting some bass trap acoustic treatments

    • @kdkd693
      @kdkd693 Před 5 lety

      NIAtoolkit except bass traps by definition are very large compared to a car interior due to long wavelengths.
      Fill the trunk and frunk up with folded blankets would give the bass trap effect, but hardly practical

  • @bjornforslund8309
    @bjornforslund8309 Před 5 lety +1

    Would be interesting to see a comparison between different tires according to their dB noise specification. The standard 19" tires (Hankook S1 Evo 3 in my case) have a noise level of 72 dB but you can get ones that have a noise level of 68 dB (according to dackonline.se). F.e the Goodyear Eagle F1 tires.

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  Před 5 lety

      You can get an idea here:
      czcams.com/video/DOABLgDf3N0/video.html

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  Před 5 lety

      And here:
      czcams.com/video/kJWOyJxLCao/video.html

    • @bjornforslund8309
      @bjornforslund8309 Před 5 lety

      @@bjornnyland Thanks. Watched both these videos and i guess that the conclusion from them and the soundproofing video here is that it's better to switch to low dB rated tires then to add soundproofing material. At least if road noise is the main concern.

  • @igeekone
    @igeekone Před 5 lety

    The most difference may come from the sound system having far less vibrations resonating throughout the car body.

  • @tomaskonkol8894
    @tomaskonkol8894 Před 5 lety +1

    i think it is big difference in sound profile.

  • @Chimel31
    @Chimel31 Před 5 lety

    It's really money well spent as you are more often in your car than in your bed! ;)
    That's a big difference in the quality of the road noise that must add up on long trips.
    The read doors seem to be a pain to access, the difference in sound insulation between front and rear door is quite noticeable.
    Maybe ask one of your friends when they'll be changing tires so you can both do it at the same time with the same tires and wheels for a more accurate measurement.
    By the way, I suppose you were driving both cars at the same speed, but was it at the same gear too and were both cars charged with the same kind of electrons? I am pretty sure the noisy car was driving in first and only gear... ;)

  • @SeriouslyJaded
    @SeriouslyJaded Před 5 lety +3

    I think you’d need more than these thin soundproofing panels to make a lot of difference. And that will add weight. E-Tron is heavy for a number of reasons.
    What is a shame is that an expensive car like this needs it in the first place.

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  Před 5 lety +2

      Err.. Model 3 is not expensive compared to e-Tron, Model X and I-Pace.

    • @SeriouslyJaded
      @SeriouslyJaded Před 5 lety +1

      Bjørn Nyland sure, not compared to them no but it’s not a cheap car. We are somewhat shielded from the price in Norway but in reality this is still a premium price bracket car. And how much does soundproofing at the point of manufacturing cost anyway? Much less than you paid I’m sure.

    • @pompiuses
      @pompiuses Před 5 lety

      @@SeriouslyJaded Proper factory sound proofing is probably more expensive than you think. You can't just slap on some material inside the car as done here. It needs to be designed into the suspension and chassis to get a good result on rough textured assphalt.

  • @PlanetCypher_
    @PlanetCypher_ Před 5 lety

    Looks like text is wrong for 19" smooth tarmac.
    Deff got rid of higher frequency noise. If it was 10k nok may be worth it.

  • @joaolxu581
    @joaolxu581 Před 5 lety +6

    I can hear noise reduction on MC hammer yeah no doubt the car is less noisy

    • @mattaut88
      @mattaut88 Před 5 lety

      at least you will not hear anything when you run something over..

  • @hcr5887
    @hcr5887 Před 5 lety

    Tyre label:
    Nokian Hakka Black 2 235/40 ZR19 96Y XL (C A 72 dB)
    MICHELIN PILOT SPORT 4S 235/35 R20 92 Y XL (E
    A 71 dB)
    Knock knock :) Maybe you have to try with Digital Sound Meter, as always great video.

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  Před 5 lety

      My sound meter is as digital as you get it. It logs the data for me.

    • @hcr5887
      @hcr5887 Před 5 lety

      ​@@bjornnyland oh shieeeeettt, forgive me, I have not expressed myself well.
      I wanted to say that for the data of Mr. Pawel with MICHELIN PILOT SPORT 4S 235/35 R20 92 AND XL (E A 71 dB) you will use the soundmeter to put the data in your noise list of all cars.
      Tires of the same size but different brand may vary a lot
      Thank you very much for all the tests and trips that you do for us, I do not get tired of watching your videos, good shieeeetttttt! :)

  • @unforgiven665
    @unforgiven665 Před 4 lety

    Curious to know if such service is offered in Canada.

  • @Carlossteezyblunts
    @Carlossteezyblunts Před 2 lety

    Most of the noise comes into the cabin from under the car. The one spot it seems they didn't cover in this package. The most important spot as well if your going for reduced road noise. I have my car covered from head to toe and it not only made the ride so much quieter but much more comfortable as well. If you miss a spot but cover others it can make it where the spot that isn't covered easier to hear noise from now.

    • @elbowablins5814
      @elbowablins5814 Před rokem

      Hello. Can you describe more about your soundproofing ? How much weight it adds to your car and did you soundproofed car arches from the bottom ?

    • @Carlossteezyblunts
      @Carlossteezyblunts Před rokem

      @@elbowablins5814 i think total it added over a 100 lbs. probably close to 2 if im being honest. i didnt do every last inch of the car but the full roof,floor,door and trunk. Some of the side panel areas at a later time cause i had alot of left overs and was bored one day. not sure what u mean by arches?

    • @elbowablins5814
      @elbowablins5814 Před rokem

      @@Carlossteezyblunts wow, Thats a lot of extra weight which will reduce my Tesla speed.

    • @Carlossteezyblunts
      @Carlossteezyblunts Před rokem

      @@elbowablins5814 yeah its like riding around with a passenger who weight 150ish. my car still takes off just fine. lol

  • @hevenko
    @hevenko Před 5 lety

    its them bushings, bearings, those transfer vibrations vrom wheels to chasis and thats the reason why sound proofing didnt help

  • @richtricardo6701
    @richtricardo6701 Před 5 lety

    You should measure the decibels inside the car while your friend knocks on different parts of the car. Then compare it to the other car and see which parts of the sound proofing is actually in your option worth the installation.

  • @lurwas
    @lurwas Před 3 lety

    To my ears, that's a huge difference.

  • @pers.jrgensen3178
    @pers.jrgensen3178 Před 5 lety +2

    Also when you do test like this you shoul us C-Wight on your dB measurement .
    A-Weighting cuts off the lower and higher frequencies.
    The "C" weighted sound level does not discriminate against low frequencies and measures uniformly over the frequency range of 30 to 10,000 Hz. This weighting scale is useful for monitoring sources such as engines, explosions, and machinery.
    More info here www.noisemeters.com/help/faq/frequency-weighting/

  • @dpie4859
    @dpie4859 Před 5 lety

    How much did the material and work cost?

  • @silkysmoothpro
    @silkysmoothpro Před 5 lety +3

    That "rough asphalt" would still be smooth in Britain

  • @desk0z
    @desk0z Před 5 lety +2

    Bjørn please be so kind and test your battery degeneration. There are some tools and devices available to read out the exact data from the battery cells.
    For example: total DC-charging, total AC-charging, total recuperation, Cell voltage, cell degeneration, etc.

  • @tymanot
    @tymanot Před 5 lety

    Hi Björn. Have you seen the automatic Frunk and Trunk opening that is sold by the guys in the Netherlands? Looks great in some CZcams Videos. Can be used via the Tesla App even. Thanks for the Video.

  • @HRINACAR
    @HRINACAR Před 5 lety

    A Touareg is 46db on a good road - 67 mate is ridiculously loud I am assuming those are DB numbers in chart.

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  Před 5 lety +1

      46 dB is way too low. I don't trust your numbers.

  • @IamY00t
    @IamY00t Před 5 lety +7

    With headphones there is a clear difference, but that difference might be because of different tires\wheel size.