Epic Games HATES OG Fortnite...
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- čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
- Fortnite over the past few seasons has slowly lost its identity and it raises the question does Epic resent OG Fortnite and why do they want to distance themselves from its original identity.
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parts:
intro 0:00
Identity Crisis 0:44
Why Epic hates OG Fortnite 4:44
Season OG 7:22
Conclusion 9:28 - Hry
to me the og map felt like it had alot more love, sneaky places to hide, hidden rooms with chests, fun goofy eastereggs and all sorts of stuff. game takes itself too seriously now
oh god how i miss it
the map itself was hot ass, but it had the smaller things that gave it life like the working basketball hoops. i get that they don’t have basketball in Europe but come on, theres a soccer field that diesnt shoot confetti when you score 😐
@@stanloonaguys_Basketball is pleaded professionally in Europe as well btw
I think the Ted talk I watched from school can be a good example in this being that having a lot of space starts to drain you and make you unhappy while having smaller things makes you at peak happiness and more manageable to deal with, OG Fortnite was small and easy to have fun with I agree, I think it's the just building part of it that killed it for me since now sweats made it unplayable and the false promises they made saying stuff like they'll bring back the OG Pump when they just made the nerfed and changed pump.@@stanloonaguys_
Get good
Epic hates OG Fortnite because they hate BR. They want to be a metaverse. They want to be Roblox. Being known as a BR game or having BR be BY FAR the most popular mode is holding that back. It's that simple.
This would explain why they stopped with weekly updates. Why BR always feels bland and copy/paste now. Why there's no story. Why they ruined the locker UI by splitting everything up. Why they got rid of the old school cartoony graphics. Why summer and winter events suck. Etc.
They don't WANT that identity. They want us playing garbage Creative 2.0 or Lego or racing, etc.
and if they slowly make br worse on purpose then it will make people think they dont like battle royal anymore, atleast thats what theyre trying to do
If epic has half a brain they know that br IS fortnite, and that will never change
You are so right
This doesn’t explain the locker UI at all, that is just a QOL change they made
@@Elutai people will just stop playing the game if they dont like br anymore, theyre not gonna go to creative 2.0 or those other modes
Great video! Glad I got this recommended to me. Donald Mustard had such a creative vision. He cared about his players so much. The current higher ups now don't have that sorta feel anymore.
Now its all just meaningless changes that are being made to make the game feel less and less like Fortnite.
@@turbkeysamdwich1880 For money and their own monopoly
@@turbkeysamdwich1880facts
Still don’t know why they needed to remove rarity, something that’s been in the game since day one, just gone in an instant for 0 reason at all
Why can't we just play any season we want?!? 🤦
Money
The toll that would have on servers, queue times, hard drive space, and the community would be insane.
@calabemccool yeah im sure that would be almost impossible to achieve without every lobby being only bots.
Not many people would play the shitty seasons so matchmaking would be very difficult in smaller regions so I don’t think it would work very well
@@Donnieasoc35they’d make so much from og that it wouldn’t matter
Epic doesnt WANT BR to be their main focus anymore. When Tim Sweeney took over, he had a vision of turning Fortnite into a "metaverse". Thats why they largely do not care about BR anymore. Every season feels the same. Seasonal events are trash. No more live events or story. At the end of the day, they have much bigger goals for what they want Fortnite to be, and putting so much focus into BR just isnt worth it to them anymore. They'll probably keep doing a yearly month long OG season just to get players back on the game, just so they can push their new unreal engine projects into people's faces. Its no coincidence that they did the OG season right before releasing Lego fortnite and rocket racing. Fully expecting this to be the new norm
Sorry for the essay, but thats my 2 cents
they werent doing og fortnite as a money incentive. they did it for the true hardcore fan base. fortnites obviously doing fine, idk why they'd need to make more money.
@@pubs7826Thats why fortnite went from like 2mil concurrent on br in season og to 100k on br in ch 5? Be fr fortnites old formula is far more popular.
@@gronkasaures-rex9711 that's not true, across all br modes there's over 800k players on the game rn and that's at the end of a season. there was probably close to 2 or 3 mil at the start. stop acting like u know what ur talking abt when u dont even look up the facts. and no the old system wasn't "better" It was js nostalgic
@XavDaFoof Yea just support a company's laziness lmaoo. Make sure to clean up after you finish sucking them off.
@@pubs7826epic games burner account
a lot of things that made chap1 the best chapter (imo) was the loot diversity in a way that guns actualy evolved (getting buffed and nerfed) with items interacting with builds and without forgetting the traps
I agree with what you are saying, but I believe that Donald still wanted BR to have the spotlight, in terms of love from epic and events, ECT. That is why he left, he liked what epic was doing to expand fortnite, but he didn't like how BR was just becoming a showcase and not the core of the game.
Disagree The Weapons weren’t balanced at all and you’re acting like the weapons are never balanced now when in reality they changed the guns the same, the only reason it feels different is because of no weekly updates
They’re milking this game with collabs so people will keep playing. They also keep using legacy styles for the Fortnite crew instead of having extra styles because they’re lazy and think people actually want that
They should have a split playlist with OG and Modern Fortnite
tbh this would actually be a good idea. all those chapter 4 kids saying how ugly and boring OG Fortnite is can have their precious modern Fortnite, and we can have OUR Fortnite back. That would just cause the player count to rise so I don't see why they do it.
@@Its_A.Secret618the server tolls. More bots will have to come to keep servers full. They should do it tho
OG season really was the second coming of christ. I didn't rage when i died. I enjoyed every second. F u epic for taking that season so quick.
Nah. Shit was boring as hell.
@@TGKisBoredit was by far the best season since like c2s2
@@yeezysleez washed og
@@TGKisBoredchapter 2 kids dont know what good fortnite is
@@clipso9061 ogs were just blinded by nostalgia when og came back, it was dry as hell
Remember back in chapter 1 when we had wallpapers in battlepass that not only showed bits of the story but also had the location of a hidden free level token that you could search for it? I really liked that, it was the little things they did that made the game unique and fun, it had it's own goofy but cool personality, we don't really have any of that anymore
Sure seems like it, they KNOW that everyone wants OG fortnite back and they ignore i which only hurts them financially
not everyone, just the group of sooky players who do nothing but whine if they do anything but bring back the old shitty map
@@joeywhite1463 You are like 12 years old with the way this comment sounds. The new maps are trash, OG fortnite is one of the best games ever and united the gaming world
@@raburner3717 mate, the og map was just a bunch of low quality reused assets. And holy you are too far gone "United the gaming world" - 🤓
@@joeywhite1463uh yeah, that’s kinda what made the OG map cool. It wasn’t some professionally made, well thought out and planned map that maximized some specific element. It was made by a team that actually cared about having fun on it. Not everything has to be brand new and completely different for it to be fun. If that’s the way you think of the maps or the game in general, I feel extremely bad for you.
@@joeywhite1463Minecraft is literal pixelated blocks and is the best selling game of all time what are you on about? Just because a game doesn’t look like war zone and play like apex doesn’t make it a shitty game. You think the map is trash but give no valid reason.
What confused me was why bring back OG Fortnite to get attention on the game for what was to come with Chapter 5. When Lego Fortnite, Rocket Racing, Fortnite Festival, Hyper Realistic Graphics and Vehicles, and more collabs were the exact opposite of what people liked about OG Fortnite.
I’m pretty sure it’s cause the player base was low and that epic wanted more players to play their game and they knew OG would attract their playerbase
OG was a marketing stunt. That's why the end event was ruined and turned into a youtube ad
@@NR20244 yeah but the type of players that liked OG season and the type that likes chapter 5 are to completely different types of players
7:24 "Season OG for me really was the 2nd coming of christ" I agree keep it 100 cents🤣
For me that was Chapter 2 lol
Take me back to when you could win a game with a green ar and a green pump
its funny how epic is trying to make the game a new “metaverse” people will still only associate the game with a battle royale game
The whole "losing identity" shit that people are talking about now makes my blood boil, because when I felt this way in 2020-2021, I always got people telling me I was just being overly nostalgic and didn't like change; when it was clear that the shift from original content to collaboration oriented content was a sign of things to come. I personally dislike the shift from the cartoony to realistic style HEAVILY because it ruined the game's identity for me a long time ago. The instant Chapter 2 dropped and Save the World got discontinued, it was the beginning of the end times.
It might be a hot take but Donald Mustard is partly to blame; he wanted to make Fortnite his ultimate fanfiction and as a result, that betrayed its original aesthetic, also giving Epic the opportunity to build a "metaverse".
Now Fortnite feels like it's trying to sell me shit from other companies all the time rather than being an independent experience that stands proudly. I don't play PVP games often and I certainly don't care about Battle Royale anymore.
Bro Chapter 2's identity was better than Chapter 1 tbh
@@TheRealLifeKillerMoth nah it generaly looked worse in the colors just look at the zylazz's video comparing the graphics of each chapter
Bro you have the same take as me stw devs are the only one loving the real fortnite
@@TheRealLifeKillerMothI love the "identity" chapter 2 had. The collab secret skins, collab locations, and even a Marvel season was such an original part of the game that took so much effort and creativity from Epic! Truly such an inspired era. Very distinct.
@@SuperStarK1n nitpicking hard, more then the majority of skins were original the marvel season was one season we had 7 other seasons that weren't collab based
It really does feel like Fortnite is just a marketing stunt to show off what they have and what they can do rather than being its own thing and owing it. It’s so disappointing to see this, season og should of showed epic what they should of done moving forward, before a new map felt crazy and exciting now it’s just a new patch and that’s it chapter 3 and onward really had me stop caring about new maps
Exactly bro epic needs to stop showing off their graphics that we don’t want, they look cool but we want the cartoony bright style 1-3 had not the style we have now
Exactly especially with Lumen and all the new graphics. I liked the charm cartoony look
Fortnite is really a test for Unreal Engine 5 so they use the game to test out the new features of that specific engine and Collabs are used to make more money off of the game. without collabs, if the game still stayed the same like it did in 2018, it would've kind of gradually died down a lot with a majority of the playerbase not playing it anymore and plus there wouldn''t be that many new players so Collabs adds a lot of flavor and texture to the game
@@actrue9712 I feel they could have kept the cartoony look with the new graphics, because heck the game is absolutely beautiful in terms of graphics now, but it's not really "Fortnitey".
@@Its_A.Secret618 oh I agree the graphics are beautiful butttt it loses its charm somehow.
It’s pretty simple epic doesn’t care about anything that made Fortnite unique and what it was, all they care about is Collabs that’s why they got rid of Donald mustard that’s why we haven’t had a just pure fornite season that didn’t revolve around some collab since probably chapter 2 season 2 or 1
They didn't get rid of Donald Mustard he stepped down, it was his decision. The plan was always to be a metaverse, even Donald Mustard wanted the game to be like one.
@@ltisdabest21yeah but BR was supposed to still be the main priority, Epic started to ditch battle royale and just normal Fortnite so Donald left, plus it’s obvious that Epic is purposely making the game worse so people play creative 2.0 which has gotta be one of the worst strategies in gaming history
As a player who joined in chapter 2 season 1, playing Fortnite og was extremely fun and I absolutely loved the art style of the older seasons. The simplicity yet the complexity was insane. Something about a game having such a simple premise (land, loot and be the last one standing) and yet being so complicated, by having many strategy's and different fun things you could do in every game made it never become repetitive. Modern Fortnite is way to complicated, with all the bossed sprinting sliding, wall mantling, weapon mods, teleporting water, etc. I THINK FORTNITE SHOULD GO BACK TO ITS ROOTS OF BEING A SURVIVAL BASED BATTLE ROYAL. Every one forgets that it was originally planned to be a survival game, that's where it got its cartoony graphics and post apocalyptic style from. Look at Retail Rows for example, it looked abandoned and destroyed making it seem post apocalyptic. I along with many other players loved that type of style the game had, the weapon designs also looked cartoony and post apocalyptic being a lookalike to a real weapon and not actually being a real life weapon like the scar. there is no real life scar but there are weapons that look similar to it. Other weapons like the tactical SMG look like they were built out of scrap parts and look very cool. I think Fortnite should go back to being a simple battle royal with cartoony graphics.(sorry I just felt like ranting💀)
I think chapter 2 map will superior though it was all the stuff we liked about OG but more modernized
@@jacquestuber628 I liked the somewhat bugginess and chaotic nature of the older seasons in chapter 1 hence why I prefer it. But chapter two holds my two favorite seasons, that being season 7 and 8, and I really loved season X in chapter one. I think Fortnite should stick to the silly cartoon side of things. Once a player was riding a shark with a fishing rod on land and he clipped through the ground and me and the boys were laughing so hard. Chapter 2 really deserves more love than what it gets.
This is the video I wanted to make. THANK YOU! I just want the game I played years ago... and it isn't nostalgia - I genuinely think OG Fortnite was just better in nearly every aspect.
I don't think it's even that "complex" right now. More like optimized. Think about it: Epic laid off 800 ppl 7 months ago, a lot of others quit over the years, like Mustard. The core fortnite team that was invested in development of the game and actively played it is mostly gone. There's no incentive to add quirky trifles like silly vehicles, weather systems, different fishes and so on - because for the majority of stuff at Epic games this is just another day at work and not some passion project they feel personally attached. It's more of an "industry standart" type of work, hence it feels so unengaging.
Fortnite's goal today is to create a "metaverse" system in which it will be easier to sell a lot of cosmetic items. Great video.
the game was dying bigtime then they brought the one reason what made fortnite fortnite which was chapter 1 fortnite and it revived the game so much it struck them a deal with disney the fact that they dont want it to exist makes me sad bc its literally what made the game thats why EVERYONE came back.
Yep epic games partnering with Disney has hyped people up but Disney is known for making bad decisions in their company so I wonder if they will do the same to Fortnite
>the game was dying bigtime
What? It was the most played game in 2023?
If you count 300 million monthly players as dead, you're an idiot
There are a lot of changes that could make Fortnite better in my opinion like less collabs, more live events, simpler guns, etc. , but one big one I don't think people talk about much is bringing back the old style of the game. The chapter 1 look of Fortnite was iconic and when it got replaced in chapter 2, it felt like a whole new game, or at least to me. Now it seems like every season, Epic Games is trying to make the game seem more and more realistic, when the thing that people fell in love with at the start was the cartoonish graphics, the janky looking guns, and the bright colors of the game.
Even small changes like them removing the rarities on skins makes them feel less collectable compared to back in like season 4 when they sold what would be rare skins nowadays as legendry's.
To me Fortnite had the cartoony look until chapter 4. like think about it. even in chapter 3 the trees and stuff were still weird and jagged and crap. also, chapter 3 season one was super goofy with klombo, tornados, lightning, etc.
@@Its_A.Secret618yes the graphics truly changed away from the cartoonish look after chapter 3, but chapter 2 changed the graphics too much
@@Its_A.Secret618Chapter 1-3 has cartoonish graphics but chapter 1 had the most cartoonish ones.
Like yes ch2 and ch3 graphics is way more cartoonish than chapter 4 and 5 but ch2 and ch3 was still trying to be more realistic than chapter 1
@@Azact yeah I know just saying that that was the turning point for me.
Brilliant editing, and brilliant explanation! The month of OG feels like a dream compared to the filth we have with chapter 5. As a competitive, serious player who started in chapter 1, nothing they’ve done since chapter 4 began has been nearly as cool or played as well as OG Fortnite.
Really cuz in my opinion chapter 1 is the filth and season og was boring.
@@ltisdabest21 dang bro just attacked peak gaming
@@ltisdabest21the problem your statement is that it's objectively wrong. Objectively, the older chapters were better which is clearly reflected by player counts and how much the game was relevant in chapter 1 and 2
@@KadeStro90 "Peak gaming" bro only played fortnite in it's entire life
@@misuubre14around that time many good games were being released, and already popular games got good updates.
2017-2019 was peak gaming
should have kept the og 3 select creative br or stw menu that was around in chapter 2-3 and just added more tiles problem solved now they don’t interact with each other except for that menu
They should’ve to be honest but creative was very pointed on that menu cause you could already access it through battle royale
@@NR20244 the gamemode menu is super janky and messy, all because of these creative maps with like 2 players playing
This video made gave me the feeling that the world of nostalgia around me was crumbling, bringing on a new, twisted world in which I wish to never accept
Donald Mustard's last season he worked on was Vibin Donald left because Tim Sweeney wants to focus more on the Metaverse the live event team moved to Lego Fortnite, Rocket Racing, and maybe Fortnite Festival I think
❗Epic does not hate og
Fortnite purpose was to test and showcase unreal engine features.
Thats why they keep changing the game so much.❗
I just found out about Season OG and it is a very interesting case here. As you mentioned, Fortnite lost a lot of its player count by 2018 and I feel like the true OGs would've appreciated a Season 3/4 comeback instead. I was one of those players who smashed out seasons 1-4 and sort of stopped playing much during Season 5 and I never played after Season 7. To me, even Season OG doesn't feel as OG as it probably should because I was still relatively new to that season at the time.
A lot of the things you said is stuff ive been saying since the beginning of chapter 5 ( with og as well) and its nice to see someone talk about these complaints ive had
If Fortnite stayed as it was it probably would’ve died a long time ago
honestly i agree fully with this idea however i do want to say that a big reason as to why they might not be in love with the idea of OG fortnite is because whenever they release the new seasons and nobody likes them people still play and still support it by playing what they say is "bad". if people just stopped playing out of no where then epic being epic would likely give us what we want
Dude the whole point they made battle royale was to cash in on the trends. The only reason Fortnite wasnt as marketing heavy like now is because it was unknown and they had to build up to it. Theres a reason the collabs started in chapter 1, not chapter 2 with john wick. The cartoonistic theme you love so much only exist mostly due to them having to make the game after years of development hell, there way of hiding the crappy graphics were to make it cartoonish. If you see the original designs and concepts for fortnite theyre more serious and realistic.
Even then battle royale isnt eveb true fortnite, its a side mode they created after Fortnite. The real fortnite you bought at launch was save the world, not battle royale. Nobody cared that much for fortnite until they added battle royale, the real people hurting are STW fans Tbh. Imagine if it was the reverse and STW was still popping and BR was still in chapter 1. Despite what yall say, i guarantee if it stayed in chapter 1 for 7 years it wouldnt even have the same numbers as chapter OG. Realm royale is proof of this.
Battle royale was always intended to be this way, Donald mustard even wanted fortnite to be a toy box, and who doesny want an iron man toy as a marvel fan? He didnt leave because it was changing tok much, he left because they took his concept for fortnite and thats it. No extra magic, love or events, so he left. Epic doesnt hate OG fort, theyre literally cashing in on your nostaglia to get more time played and money from you. If that was the case they wouldnt even done a month, probably a small event where you can only play the og map for a few weeks, along with the chapter 4 map still enabled. Chapter 1 was structured because it didnt have that connection to get ips into their game, so thinking thats a theme is nuts. If Fortnite battle royale were to be made this year with a higher budget it would not be like chapter 1, because the original was built just to cash in on the BR craze, the only thing making it djfferent from other BRs were building.
I bet if Fortnite didnt make chapters intended to fit the collaborations, but what they did originally, people will still complain, mostly because either way you shape it, youre gonna get bored of fortnite either way. If it stayed the same. Even if you played it for 1000 hours originally, seven years later itll become a game you play occasionally. None of your complaints will make you play the game as much as you say, initally you will, yeah. But then youll get bored and start playing it less and less, them changing the themes only made that change happen sooner.
If yall read all of this GGs.
Dam right brother, people clam Fortnite is "losing what it originally was" but fail to realize this has already happened to SAVE THE WORLD aka what Fortnite was actually supposed to be. stw died for BR could thrive now BR players are mad they are getting the treatment stw got and even then, they are far far better off than what stw is rn, a forgotten mode.
chap1 still respected and did had new props and textures being in the stw artstyle, even the devs said that fortnite artstyle cane evolve in a way that it respects the initial style (different visuals style) something that stopped being a thing during chap2
@@asbi2022
And it evolved in the art style they have today. The art style is still there but it's hidden behind the realistic textures and constant engine updates. BR was always intended to be different from STW, the only reason it had the same art style is because BR was a last minute thing and they had no budget lol. Even Donald mustards comments about fortnite proves that, he talks about fortnite being bigger than it actually was, like kids playing with toys. He cannot do that with how fortnite worked back then, at the end he got his wish but he only sacrificed the live events. Note that the story elements is the main reason he left, not any of the changes you're referring to, if it was he didn't say it.
Either way if your complaining about epic forgetting Fortnite's identity, remember, the fortnite you paid for at launch was STW not br.
@@samburgerwithcheeze8145 and during chap1 they added items textures and props that where respecting the artstyle yes donald mustard didn't gave a f about the game identity but stw devs where still there and had hands on a lot of things until epic droped stw like the stw devs alredy planed to have pvp and other modes than just having the campaign mode byt by still respecting the artstyle which chap1 did and like the stw textures are initialy realistic photo's that they painted on
@@asbi2022 and doing chapter 4 they straight up brought back chapter 1, your point being?? They always bring back stuff from chapter 1, bringing back textures and weapons doesn't match to bring back the full map, if that doesn't show they care for the older style then nothing would. They didn't have to do it, but they did it for the fans, now you can whine about fortnite changing and what not but don't lie and say they forgotten what made it special in the first place. It just sounds like most people want fortnite to die off like realm royal, which is a br game that has the same map for over 4 years and you see nobody playing it, that's because everything needs change or it's gonna stay the same way and just be an occasional game you hop on from time from time. The only reason chapter 1 is so loved was because it ended, the majority was already tired of the map during season x, and you believe they'll still play it if 20 seasons later were still on chapter 1 map with new pois?
I feel like one of the main things that made fortnite, fortnite was Donalds amazing story writing.
Chapters 1 - 3 felt like one big book with each live event ending on a cliff hanger making you wonder whats next
And each end of chapter event felt amazing
The End resulted in the zero point recreating reality zero from the ground up
The End² resulted in the island being double sided which was amazing feeling especially in that 1st flipping scene and felt like a superhero movie for the whole experience
Fracture was.....
Pretty mid gameplay wise tbh but in the lore it was amazing!
The Zero Point finally exposed and uses all the power it has left to gather parts of every reality it has ever made to make a new island and atmosphere just to keep it & the loopers safe becoming dormant since then
After Fracture the storyline just hasn't existed, most of the chapter 4 seasons didnt make sence aftwr season 1
All of the Mega biome rifts in somehow??
I thought rifts were connected to the Zero Point & thats dormant so how does that work??
Then the next season theres just a jungle inside the island?
The fracture event had no jungles what so ever & if it did we would have seen them in the islands floating around.
Did the Zero Point stick them there as one last security measure during fracture or something?
Because theres no way reality zero Reality 659 and the ageless' reality all makes a perfect jungle naturally.
Then the next season Kado Thorne just somehow puts 3 massive chunks of his reality throught a time machine??
How does that work?
Then season OG happened which
What the hell happened inbetween season 4 & OG? We never got a cinematic.
Anyway 1st 4 mins of the big bang were amazing
A great recreation of the end (atleast music wise) i still don't get how strapping a time machine on the rocket forces the Zero Point to big bang again but ok whatever
Rest of the event was just 1 big advertisement.
Anyway my thoughts on actual Gameplay since no one will read that big Yap session about the zero point.
Personally I think they should just keep it simple, like they did for chapter 2 Season 1
This gun shoots fast
This gun shoots slow
No mods no nothing just a simple gun and thats it.
Don't think they would need to do anything with non gun items
Most of them this chapter seems like they would be in OG
Especially since flowberries are just portable hop rocks.
Also if the leaks are true and we get chapter 2 for our OG this year it should really be renamed to "Chapter 2 Re-Looped" instead of Chapter 2 OG since atleast in fortnite terms OG means OriGinal
Chapter 2 is not the Original map so therefore should not have OG in the name of the season.
Anyway yap session over bye 👋
A new chapter for me just feels like chapter 1 again but way more different now 😢 since they’re lootpool in chapter 5 s1 was just 6 FCKN GUNS and everyone using the same loot basically
The bew modes should've been separate games. The items wouldn't be a problem since Rocket League has proved that unlocking certain items in one game can "unlock" them in the pther games.
SUPER underrated video! Excellent work! 🔥🔥
I didnt think I was gonna see a killdozer reference in a fortnite vid. Nicely done and RIP KILLDOZER
that month of og was the most fun ive had playing a multiplayer game in years and made me start wanting to play competitive again. completely lost interest in the game once it ended. really do miss wanting to grind that game
After chapter 1 fortnite just went from being a good and mostly original game to being a big advertisment billboard
Fellow fn creator here. Dope vid. How do you get such high quality content of the trailers and other gameplay that’s off YT and not yours? I assume downloading it?
Hey man glad you like the video. To answer your question yes I download fn trailers and gameplay to better emphasize my point when discussing a specific item, game mode, season, etc.
Honestly your right I can remember a time playing if fortnite my friend made a story about his skin being a toy soldier and how he was abandoned by his owner being rifted into the world to fight we laughed I don’t think we ever had those types of memories in new games
season og was a month long to keep the og map from losing its specialness by being around for too long if they didn't think season og would do well they wouldn't have put it right before chapter 5 they were trying to attract as many returning playings into trying the new game modes lol
Yeah I don't understand how everybody that talks about season og actually believes Epic hates that season. Epic knows people really liked the older seasons that's why they plan on releasing a season og for chapter 2 (if leaks are true). They also stated that they saw the success season og achieved and that they want to bring it back.
@@ltisdabest21 ''og'' ''Chapter 2'' LMAOOOO
@@Mojixzenchapter 2 is shit give me back og fortnite
@@FattestGarfield Well unfortunately for you chapter 2 is whats coming back later this year
@@FattestGarfield🗿
They’re gonna end up pulling in a fraction of the people who came back for OG 1 and then all the chapter 2 glazers will be proven wrong
You know, most of all, I'm afraid that our attempts to reach the epic management will not help and the game will slide to the level of an ordinary money squeeze.
Epic shifting to focusing on kid only content is the biggest mistake they could've made. I pretty much hate the game and most their skins now. I'm amazed they had the Alien skin come out. Can it even be used in Royale now?
Players are quitting because of epic games abandoning br mode. They are loosing massive players count. The core players had enough with epic games destroying the game. Fortnite needs to be Fortnite not metaverse.
No way u only have 3k subs
keep up the great videos
Since chapter 5 fortnite is dead to me. They changed the whole game and removed things we loved a lot
New season dropped this past weekend and this video aged like a fine wine because of it.. lol
I’ve always thought ch4 and beyond feels like modded fn, ch2 and 3 changed the art style a bit but you could still see that was inspired from the old one, ch4 and beyond is literally just throw anything at the wall and hope it sticks with no regard to the identity of the game.
There is still a part of the development team that tries to be consistent with the games identity and I see that in things like the shockwave hammer, the rocket ram (which are highly regarded as the fan favourite items of ch4, I wonder why) and some of the ch5 items like flowberries/flowberry fizz feeling like very goofy fn style items, but it just doesn’t matter when they add anime mythic or decide that every weapon now has mods and bullet travel and change the game to look nothing like what it used to
Aint no way you were able to sneak a killdozer video into a fortnite documentary 💀
For are those people whom say epic don't want br
Fortnite at start wasn't even a br
Evolving always is needed
This is a great video! very interesting observation on the current state of the game.
loved that you put killdozer in
season OG was some of the most fun i had with my friends in fortnite ever since chapter 1
i redownloaded fort for the og season and played it almost every day and when they took it out i kept playing but gradually stopped and now i dont even have fort on my pc lol, it just feels like they dont care at all
The sad part about this is that we cannot actually do anything about it right now. Epic looks not at the fun of the game itself but at the money.
Fortnite as a game has always been changing so it’s no surprise that its identity changes too. It’s weird when you have people that want to experience what the game was like years ago but if the game never changed it would have died much much sooner. The game is an absolute blast with friends (both new to the game and veterans) because the game is never the same. But making OG a separate mode where it puts old seasons in rotation for about a week at a time would be really cool.
I couldn't agree more with you, very clear and well realized video man
This season started strong with the Midas stuff but then they ruined it with Avatar and SW. Except the Cado Thorne Season, it always goes the same for me. I get hyped in the beginning, buy the BP and then after a week I lose my interest because some random collabs I dont care about become the focus point. I then come back solely to finish the bp and get my vbucks back and the cycle repeats. Until the next OG season, I think I‘ll drop out and spend my time otherwise.
Epic's biggest problem is that they absolutely do not respect any of their older games and content. Unreal and Unreal Tournament were delisted by epic, making them impossible to legally play now, and that mentality is present in Fortnite with how much they implement FOMO in Fortnite. Missed a battle pass season? Now you will never be able to get an iconic character that used to be available.
This couldn’t be all the more apparent after they DMCA’d Project ERA, which was currently on Season 8 of Chapter 1.
Epic hates the notion of people enjoying BR over their new metaverse-y modes.
They want you to play their Need For Speed, Guitar Hero, and LEGO Worlds/Minecraft gamemodes *cough* ripoffs *cough* instead and forget about BR entirely once you get bored.
Why do you think LTMs aren’t frequent anymore? Remember Solid Gold, Close Encounters, Unvaulted, and Floor Is Lava? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
can you talk about chapter 2 season 2 I never played the season but I wanna know your thoughts such as map , battlepass , story and etc
I think a main factor is that employees need to do something and if they kept OG it wouldn’t require much work
I honestly prefer the new seasons. When the OG season came back, I was super exited to experience it again, but I felt it such a downgrade.
I can picture Tim sweeney crying himself to sleep when Fortnite: OG was the success it was as it basically said "Nobody fucking wants or cares about your metaverse shit"
imo, as an old player who played from season 5 to 8, and only got back into it last december (true story the peter griffin skin alone got me back into fortnite lmao) ive been heavily enjoying the wackier and more out there ideas. airbending was one of the most fun ive ever had in fortnite i aint gonna lie. but i 100% understand the greivances with the wacky ideas that stray further and further away from fortnites true identity and totallu sympathize.
Fortnite OG was the first season since Chapter 2 Season 3 I played daily and regularly with my friends who had returned when OG came back. None of them play anymore and quit when chapter 5 came out.
Fortnite before BR was Save The World. They realized that if they made a BR it would be a hit and it did just that. Now they’re doing the same thing to Rocket Racing, Lego, and Festival but it’s just not going as well imo.
Before I used to like every single season. Now I either hate a season or really love a season. It’s very mixed.
After seeing Donald Mustard's recent interview, I actually disagree.
Donald Mustard always wanted the game to be ever evolving, Donald Mustard always wanted Fortnite to be like "a kid playing with toys on the playroom floor." He wanted the game to allow you to express yourself however you want to. So I feel like the direction Fortnite is going in, has always been the gameplan, even from the start. They just gave it time to get to that stage.
You know that's what they want you to think but in reality it never was.
True but Donald wanted BR to evolve alongside the other modes as well, to have a focused story and events instead of soly pursuing the metaverse & the new stuff.
@@next2963 i hate timsweeny
@@betsytelford3107 i think we all do
@@jurassic190 No????
seems like theyre addressing this issue in the new season
I just also wish they had an og fortnite post process setting that made the game look very close to how ue4 handled lighting, ofc It cant be one tone but i think its realistic to think that it can be very similar
Ive seen some cretive maps with custom lighting that really makes it look rather close to og so why cant battleroyale do that
As of this chapter, they’ve added way too many extra game modes that makes the game have more context and all of them have very good concepts, but they rushed all of them so they are buggy and aren’t complete, and because they focus on many modes at the same time, that they neglect creative, br, even the new game modes. I still play fortnite nearly everyday, but it’s not the best.
Sometimes simplicity is the best, and what companies fail to understand, i loved and cherished old Fortnite not for nostalgia because it was fun and simple revisiting the game nearly a decade later it’s confusing as hell and i do not know what’s going on, i don’t know why it’s so difficult for companies to have separate gamemodes that have the old things that people loved
This was a great video, i miss the old times too
I love Fortnite, but one of the biggest problems with Epic Games is the treatment of the games they bought. They are blind to what the community of those games want and don’t want. For example in Rocket League they removed trading, which was a pillar of the game that no one wanted gone. I hope they start to hear the backlash from the people who want to save their game.
its so sad what they've done to the game
The game hasn’t been the same after Donald Mustard retired 😞
0:37 Mr. Krabs saying "money"
I miss the old movement, yeah grappling hooks existed, but no weapons that actually made you fly or whatever the hell they got in modern fortnite, no wall climbing, sliding, just simple running, jumping, crouching, and crouchwalking
Y’know, Fortnite is really something. You can have goku doing a fucking hollow purple at Travis Scott while his teammate, Eminem fights Aang with My hero quirks while spiderman third parties the fight and ends it with a kamehameha.
I don’t like how they keep trying g to make the graphics “better” but they lost the art style that made it look so good in chapter 1
I hate the new season, I hate the attachments, I hate the movment.
Theres attachments??? So you can buy silencers and stuff? P2w tbh
They know that people hate the current state of the game after chapter 2 and Epic knows Og Fortnite will bring people back but it exposes why players hate the game
The thing is about fortnite that we always loved was the ever changing aspect of the game. There was always something new. Always new improvements to the game. Or the ui. Fortnite is still fun. It's still the builder battle royale and you still use mostly assault rifles and shot guns as the main guns to fight with. But the wacky fun items aren't really hear anymore. We get seasonal items now & they just aren't the same
I started playing when they added Peter griffin (good marketing ploy btw), I feel the game is fun but it did always bug me how it didn’t really have any personality. The problem really clicked with me when the avatar Collab happened. I think most of the problem with it comes from Fortnite creative and that it’s monetised.
The original thought process used to be “let’s make something only Fortnite would do” .
I think it’s hard for them to admit that their best work is behind them. I LOVED chapter 1 and some of chapter 2, because of the simplicity. There has been good changes don’t get me wrong, such as sprinting and sliding. However, I much prefer the classic cartoony graphics, simple weapons, memorable poi’s, a SIMPLE UI and locker, and a lack of annoying stuff like getting spammed by AI’s.
Fortnite lost its identity pretty fast, and it changed from its og feeling pretty fast. honestly it died after season 7 for me
I don't think the metaverse idea is a bad thing since Fortnite has actually building up with this idea since chapter 1 with the whole thanos event in season 4, it was more of a gradual thing that was a part of Donald Mustard's plan which meant that the game was going to change and evolve over time to a completely different game plus the metaverse idea sounds good because people can play with either their favorite character from a TV show or movie or their favorite musician, it brings up a lot of fun opportunities for the game. They also change up the whole look for Fortnite because Fortnite is basically a massive ad for Unreal Engine 5 to test the new features of that engine and how everything works. Plus as many people have said before, if the game just stayed the same look and everything else, it would've probably started to died down around chapter 1 season 8. so a lot of these changes were needed to keep new players engaged into the game for a long time
Yeah but donald mustard didnt want br to be left in the dust with no storyline, events, and its charm being thrown away. This is exactly why he left because br was being taken as a side project while the metaverse is the big thing, this isnt how he was envisioning the game to evolve, his main idea was br, the map, storyline, and the zero point being the essential core to fortnite holding the game together (in terms of lore, and possibly even ultimately) while uefn, the metaverse and the modes are floating around the main core being battle royale, this is atleast what was said on the interview, the team was working on the modes in mid 2022 and therefore the last season he oversaw was ch3 s3, the exact time this whole thing happened. Now the game could have evolved with its unique identity, charm and style it originally had WHILE also being donald mustard’s envision of the ORIGINAL metaverse, this would still keep the same idea the team had WITHOUT stripping away its originality and ever evolving br magic and charm. So no, the game wouldnt have died, unfortunately epic is just expanding the metaverse idea too solely while costing the life of br, game’s originality, identity, style and charm.
@@krxize Yep I agree that the game shouldn't remove live events and the map changes since those things were an essential part of the game and would make people more hyped for the next season, nowadays, we rarely have any longlasting hype for the newer seasons since we don't have big live events anymore, we only had one during the past year which was the big bang event and that one was kind of weak but yeah, as I said the metaverse is a good idea, they just needed to have a nice balance between live events, LTMS, and the new game modes
"because people can play with either their favorite character from a TV show or movie or their favorite musician" that's the thing tho, most collab skins are battlepass.. want darth vader? boba fett? khaby lame? peter griffin? nuh uh, you didn't play back then, so you cant.
@@Krisztian08 Yeah, that's true but there's also collabs in the item shop as the TMNT skins and the avatar skins, A few of the musicians such as Travis Scott and The Kid Laroi was in the item shop
First thing to change:
Change to chapter 3 season 3 build graphics and skin graphics, espically the way mogul master looked with reflections
I Remember Watching a youtube video saying that fornite was gonna shift there focus to creative only and this guy was predicting it this was over 3 years ago
Nostalgia is a hell of a drug lol
one thing that keeps killing the game is the fps drops bc the graphics are so demanding that you need really good system to run it but in chapter 1 and 2 it was more simple and cartoony now fortnite is trying to be as realistic as possible
I think that Epic Games should make it so that you can change versions of the game like Minecraft (but still include mantling and sprinting, it would be really anoying having to walk through the entire map). For example, you want to play chapter 2 season 4 because you never experienced it. If they added this you could just switch to that particular version of the game. I think this would be really fun and increase the popularity of Fortnite a lot. They should also add small collabs and events that happened in a season, for example the MTNT collab, or the starwars collab.
i think its gonna become like minecraft still has a lot of players but not many people are talking about it
i been js waiting for a save the world update 😭
It would be amazing if we had similar mechanics in fortnite as in apex, map rotation every season.. But we know that we will never going to get that :C
tbh as a player who started playing fortnite in ch1 s4 i really agree with what you have said one thing i think you should have mentioned is all the colabs because i feel all the colabs also ruined the original "style" of the game if u understand what i am trying to say