How Fortnite Became Unkillable
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- čas přidán 27. 01. 2023
- A few years ago, everyone was claiming Fortnite was dying, even though it was making billions. Why were people expecting it to die, and why hasn’t it died yet? The truth is, it cheated death multiple times.
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I personally think it’s not that the game is dying it’s that the old player base is moving on and a new one has taken its place.
I think it also has to do with the fact that Fortnite's online presence has almost definitely been on a decline. There's no arguing with the Google Trends graph, and plenty of Fortnite content creators certainly don't get the same amount of views. So when you see people talk about a game less, you assume it's "dead/ dying". That plus Content creators mostly just recycling video ideas, clickbaiting or straight up lying these days, and Fortnite's presence in the wider internet hasn't been the same.
But even though not as many people talk about it, the game itself and it's playerbase is just chilling.
Definitely. Used to see ~25-30 people online, now I see 1-2 besides my regular team. Literally all my other friends quit. But obviously someone’s playing the game still, it’s just literally 10 year olds now.
Just like minecraft
@@tylerfranx4286 You can split Fortnite into Generations like IRL
Chapter 1: The Boomers/OGs, fading away
Chapter 2: Gen Y, currently dominant
Chapter 3: Gen Z, slowly taking over as the comment mentioned
@@TheEpicGalaxy21 Bros source is google trend graphs… No one’s gonna be searching up ‘Fortnite’ on its own if they already know what it means
The no build mode was a great addition to helping more casual players get back into the game.
@PhixxYThaving good aim doesn’t make you a sweat, it makes you good, having bad aim makes you a trash can
@@Xoilen when you are better than most people at a game you are considered a sweat not just good
@Phixx I'd rather have my head shot off than not be able to shoot Bob the Builder
Some people have too good aim though
I gotta agree no builds have become the sweatiest lobbies I’ve ever played besides COD lobbies. Even then it’s a skill issue. I just don’t like to try that hard at 12pm on a tuesday
The "no build" mode in Battle Royale is what brought me back to the game after YEARS of not playing it. Now, I'm almost addicted to it every weekend. I'm not the best at it but I'm also not the worst. It just seems so much more fun and casual nowadays.
yeh no build mode is what brought me back into the game now I'm playing constantly.
Agreed and now with the OG season I like it even more. I dont need extra like build or augments and stuff I just like to run around and shoot things in a battle royal game. I do like the storm though since it lessen the campers that anoy me a lot in other games
How tf 😂 this game sucks regardless if they have building or not. First match I ever playing of zero build I got shot by a guy while I was in cover whole body covered I just quit the match & hopped on apex which rewards you for having good gunskill & not for standing in the open & building the twin towers in 0.001 seconds the nanosecond someone looks at you
@@updownleftright883knock it off
@@updownleftright883all I can say is git gut. Fornite is mocked by many. I used to look down on it due to its cartoon looks, but with zero build I can see that this "casual" game has more depth and skill involved than any COD or Apex 😉
you will not agree with me but thats fine. I just played for many many years and Fornite is one of the best games ever made especially when they are adding custom modes, lego or rocket racing. That game is sick!
I would love an updated version of this after the OG season coming back and the new chapter coming out. Great video!
I definitely say the no build mode has extended the life of this game longer. Also that it's less sweaty compared to the original build mode.
People have somehow figured out how to be sweaty in nobuilds. It’s crazy. Just get good and play builds lol
@@aido.08 So being good makes you a sweat? OK then
@@jackislegitterrified3689 pretty much, yeah
@@aido.08skill issue
@@jackislegitterrified3689 yeah idk what he's on about, being a sweat means you are trying hard to win, you cant really gauge that when your not in the room with the person
As another video regarding Dead Games put it, Fortnite has fought very hard to keep it's position on top of the gaming market. Whenever it sees a threat to it's game, it works REALLY hard get a solution. Right now, for example, they're working on an upgrade to their creative mode system to allow players to build creations in Unreal Engine. Add in a system to search for and view these creations/ maps, and you've got Roblox with better graphics and (hopefully) better creations.
Epic are now trying to turn Fortnite into the Metaverse and if you ask me, I'd say that'd be a better option than Facebo- I mean *Meta's* version.
This was really interesting to read. I appreciate the comment!
@@GoingIndie Thank you! If you ask me, most of the "Dead Game" mentality just comes from people seeing Fortnite's lack of Online presence and/ or personal experience. "People are talking about the game less and/ or I personally don't like the game, so surely it's gotta be dead? Right? "
Also, if Fortnite's plans to become the Metaverse go well, I'd imagine Epic can make an insane amount from Fortnite, especially since they can earn money from pretty much anyone with an internet connection, not just the gamers.
@@TheEpicGalaxy21 I honestly wouldn’t want the business practices presented in this game to become the metaverse
@@gcharles3065 Again, maybe I'm just biased, but I honestly think that compared to what other games/ 'metaverse' competitors are doing, Fortnite's probably the best bet.
They've got a decent monetization strategy with selling cosmetics that don't give you any direct competitive advantage. Nothing as predatory or annoying as other games or Facebook's Metaverse.
The worst thing I can think of them doing is their "Fear of Missing Out" with Seasons and Battle Passes and stuff. Though at this point, it's kind of too late to go back, people would get mad if they tried to change it...
then again, the Fortnite community gets mad at everything and anything.
@@TheEpicGalaxy21In your honest opinion how are other games being more predatory than Fortnite?
I’d say because it lets you do more than just shoot a gun. And it does it better than its competition. Using memes and viral videos as their inspiration for emotes was a genius marketing idea. And their physics are so smooth, the dances and other emotes look natural and not awkward like the CoD emotes or other games. The fact that their creative games add variety like deathruns, escape rooms, races, horde mode, etc etc…it’s hard to get bored with a game that keeps giving, especially with new seasons and their collabs with popular shows/games - yet another genius marketing move.
The zero build modes really good and the way they update the map/areas and collab with different franchises helps keep it relevant
been playing the game for 5 years and I can confidently say it's been a fun ride with many ups and a few downs, though I can't play as much as I used to, I see myself continuing to play this game for many more years to come, it won't last forever, but for what's it's worth, this game will always have a place in my heart
Just complete the battle pass at your own pace and stop playing the season once you do. That's what I'm doing.
what was your least favorite season? (in your opinion) just curious because i dropped it during season 6 and picked it up late 2021
@@no-hw8db my least favorite season was definitely chapter 2 season 6, I loved the theme, but the gameplay was so tedious and just not that fun for the most part
@@no-hw8db I popped in at season 9
Left and joined back and ch 2 s7
@@MalikethTheBlackBlade1 it's not about completing the battle pass, it's about just playing the game when you want and having fun
The bottom line here is that there are way too many games that focus on the competitive aspect of gaming, so much so that games that used to be casual, like Call Of Duty, became extremely sweaty. The increase in competitive shooters or switches to competitive gaming leaves a huge empty void that is the casual audience, the majority of gamers that would come back from school or work, plug the system and play to clear their minds of the things in life. Epic Games saw this and decided to tackle that player base instead. That’s just my 2¢.
and your right, instead of catering to a few famous people and hoping to get there audiences to join in for a while until ultimately the streamer switches games. they decided to target the people that just needed something to relax to but was harder to cater to as a whole
exactly, dead by daylight was tons of fun then they started catering to the people who treat it like a competitive game, even though its asymmetrical and can never be fully balanced :/
@@abrasion690 Maybe I just have a old-timey mindset but even as someone who doesn't have too much time to play these games I loved the game when it was more competitive, thats why I like sweating it out in Warzone or Rocket league. Never liked how they changed Fortnite after season 8 (ch. 1), though I guess I just like the idea of training (real-game exp in this case) to get better even if i don't have much time to do so.
call of duty has always been competitive and sweaty
Makes a lot of sense.
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Not dead as:
-consistent, (usually high quality) updates every two weeks
-Interesting on-going lore
-special events and free rewards happen a lot
- battle pass gives something to grind for even if you don’t have it
-6700 collaborations per season
-Map changes and
-Loot pool changes keep the game fresh and interesting
-As old players quit, new ones take their place
-No builds fixing the sweat issue
-creative 2.0
only reason i hate fortnite is because of its chapter 4 map i mean it looks so weird to my eyes the chapter 3 and 2 had so beautiful greenish colours and was so simple don't get me wrong the map and its graphics are much better rn but it doesn't actually feel like fortnite the beautiful colours of chapter 3 and 2 matched the artstyle and actual feel of fortnite
chapter 4 is definitely good but the colours and feel of the map sucks
and one more thing horrible optimization and that stupid shader compilation issue
@@KrakenX07 imo the chapter 4 graphics are amazing. Ray tracing is sick and the colors are so much more lively and vibrant then the muddy look of chapter 3. Chapter 2 graphic were good too though (but leagues below chapter 4)
The collabs themselves has shown that Fortnite is dead.
What's great about the battle pass that no one said is that you could buy it by just grinding v-bucks and then buying it, and then get it easily just with a lil bit of grinding from then on, but otherwise you can just spend $10 to get it once and you can get it every season as you get more v-bucks from the battle pass than you spend to get it in the first place
I just want toys and pets to be developed againg
Surprised this didn't mention Zero Build! It was the reason I got back into it. I played """competitively""" in 2018/2019 but later switched to other games. Recently I started playing again as Zero Build let me and my not as good friend play without being stomped on 24/7. You didn't need to spend hours perfecting building to get good, you just have to know how to hide behind cover and time your shots. It's a completely different way of playing that allows us to enjoy it without dedicating hours to it.
Zero build is how I am able to play with my son 😂, thank god for ZBM 🙏
@@sbjr5504 should have just played pubg 🤣 building is what made Fortnite unique and most popular in the first place 💀
@@FazeRustyNuts how is pubg doing at the moment? I haven’t played it in a couple years or more
@@engagingweirdo I don't know lmao I don't play it either
@@FazeRustyNuts yeah but zero build was still a success tho
Heres why its not dying: it bacame basically a social media for people who are in class together and you cant just say, im not gonna be part of it anymore. People hang out in class and in the afternoon in Fortnite. We did this back in the days on Facebook and such, pretty much the same. The spikes you see around updates are people who play multiple games checking for new content, the baseline is teens just hanging out. And Fortnite was the first game to realy make it possible for anybody with any gaming device to join plus they had the momentum to draw everyone in.
nah, you are chronically online
@@juansimonjarrin2399 it’s not about being chronically online. The thing is, not everyone can meet up all the time after school or after work. Again, it’s mostly a social thing. Being able to talk to friends while still having fun.
But Fortnite simply isn't this social ground. It's not a platform, and it's not one that people deem worthy to participate in.
This comment is underrated. You're totally right, I see this trend in the teenager circles for like 5-6 years now.
@@EmiWi Fortnite became a plataform ever since creative mode was a thing, now with many collabs and Unreal Engine itself being a part of the game, yeah it basically became a metaverse
Same reason minecraft didn't die post-1.9. The playerbase is young enough that it won't leave, and there's enough media about the game that they never need to advertise again.
Honestly how the game evolves with the map, gameplay & constant skins releasing i could see why it has the longevity it has. Especially sense it connects with all age groups of players, from 10 years old all the way up to 40 years old probably higher for some people. Could see the game going on through the generations at least a couple more generations at least
Even if the general playerbase dies the sweat playerbase will be playing for decades after. When you spend a certain amount of time in a game you dont stop playing
…that’s like half of the player base. That’s dying. When half of your player base quits.
@@awesauce1Yea but fortnite is a big ass game, even if halff the players quit it would still be a hugely popular game, propably still in the top15
i feel like the "sweat playerbase" is so much smaller than what you're thinking
casuals probably make up 90% to 95% of players
this is why epic games focuses on casuals, that's just who plays the game
@@SwagHyde facts. People think the entire community is filled with “ sweats “ when in reality they make up such a small percentage of the player base.
@@awesauce1 to be honest, the general player base isn't going anywhere. I'm genuinely a noob at fortnite, but I don't know why I play it. Fortnite is just too addictive.
Great video. I've never played Fortnite. I know of it but my online gaming days are far behind me. Now, I relax from work with some single-player games. So, that your video kept me watching says a lot.
I know that you've said you prefer single player games, but currently, Epic is working on a system that allows people to create their own content in Fortnite using Unreal Engine (Epic's game engine). The long story short of this is soon, Fortnite will have become a game full of thousands, if not millions of experiences (kind of like roblox, but with hopefully better graphics and functionality). If all goes well, there should be plenty of games in it that are single-player and/ or multiplayer.
But you do you, just wanted to make you aware of this in case it interests you :)
@@TheEpicGalaxy21That is absolutely awesome. I cannot wait for unreal engine fortnite or creative 2.0. Give creative 2.0 like 2-5 years and it's probably got many creative games created by people and probably reached its peak.
This is sort of off topic, but I've never understood why people think their special for having never played Fortnite lol. I'm not saying thats you, it's just something I've noticed. People who claim to have never played Fortnite always sort of brag about it as if anyone cares. Another thing I noticed is that a lot of people who claim to hate fortnite ALSO claim that they have never played it, so how does that even make sense?
@@jantheking7028 people at my school be like:
@@shuanextreme That's the dream! Sadly, currently, even in Creative 1.0 many people don't seem to realize the true potential of creative. Most of the maps people are exposed to are the same old trash lazy stuff. Generic 1v1 maps, free for alls, deathruns, etc. While there are already plenty of crazy stuff you can do right now, it seems like people only see the bad side of Creative.
It's possible that even if 2.0 comes out, all anyone will see is generic creative map number 2000. :(
this is incredibly well made. Great job
watching this after the big bang and season OG jus makes it so insane to see how much epic brought back fortnite.
The idea to highlight an indie game after each video is incredible. Although, I would love to see the channel highlight even more indie games. You guys are doing great, kepp it up!
Fortnite is a great game. I'm an old timer in my 50's who grew up on Atari and Sega Genesis. The level of reality in Fortnite is what makes it so appealing and enjoyable to play. I only play zero build which is just like playing War as a kid with phony guns.
It’s super fun.
You a real one. everybody plays zero builds. it is actually fun
@@tap_zap9143 just got into an argument online abt "people who play zero builds are trash" no they arent.
@@solanasunshyne7980it's can option and build mode is still there so idk why they are complaining.
@@solanasunshyne7980you can just tell people who say that can't aim even if their life depends on it
fortnight isn't going anywhere in my opinion, the OG season that is out and chapter 5 will be crazy.
No. Ppl here only for og season chap 5 will be same as prev seaso
@@TryHardCentral i think some people will leave but it think more people will come back to check out chapter 5, kind of like what happened with the Spider-Man season in chapter 3
@@TryHardCentral OG season sucked idk why anyone came back for that💀
@@TryHardCentral This aged horribly to me
@@taelin-rh3wi cuz memories
1:46 you combine two quotes "seeing the writing on the wall" and "the final nail in the coffin" lol but I kinda like your one!
This video shows how epic can avoid the death of their game. So I doubt it’ll die any time soon
Epic: “Play many men by 50 cent “😎
Epic is smart and lucky that’s all they need to keep their game alive
@@Some_guy-on-the-internet exactly
I doubt it was tencent that caused PUBG to drop the lawsuit. Minecraft hunger games and DayZ mods had been doing Battle Royale modes for years so there really wasn't much of a case to say Fortnite stole anything. Fortnite just hopped on a trend that PUBG popularized.
agreed, i think they realized they wouldn't be able to win anything in court and decided to make life easy for both of them
its possible tencent did give them a slap on the wrist for fighting eachother, but its not possible to verify that without asking them
@@obsidianflight2758 Yeah, but still you wouldn't want to see the companies you have a share at fighting eachother right? either way it's a loss for you amd profit if there was no law suits and each went there way.
Subbing for mentioning Kelsier lmao. Great video
People who used to play the game in 2018 have grown up and now have money to spend as well, also the map changing and collabs brings good hype.
The fact that I’m in this video screaming “noooo” at a virtual black hole is kind of embarrassing 😭
Ur in the vid???!
@@WriothesleySimp yeah at 7:37
@@darksaber5437 XD
Okay that's just straight up funny lol.
It's ok dude. Atleast you're not that one kid who kept screaming "Look at the void!" Those voice cracks alone would be enough to kill a man of embarrassment.
Just found your channel today. I've already watched 2 of your vids. I'm sad when they come to an end. You're really good at storytelling. I look forward to your next vid.
I remember hearing about it when I was in highschool (around season 2-3) and didn’t know it was free and bought the disc version played both the story mode and battle Royale and got hooked, then it got boring, came back a bit during Travis Scott event,and haven’t played it since again
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Personally I think Fortnite will have the same effect that Minecraft has, as it is a game that is targeted towards children, that as much as the older player base gets tired, they'll always have a continuous stream of younger and younger players constantly popping up and keeping them afloat
Yeah pretty much like Pokemon
Isn't this how most games work?
The difference is that minecraft keeps the old base through custom content like mods.
@@PeterGriffin11 no not at all
@@TheOrian34 And Fortnite will probably do something similar with Creative 2.0
I have a lot of nice memories of fortnite and playing with my friends from a couple years ago. The game has changed so much that it’s kind of lost its touch with me, but it’s kinda nice to see that it will probably survive for so much longer and other people will get to have these memories too
I really appreciate this video. But I could give cred to the pictures that you use, stay focused!
been playing fortnite since the start of season 2 and still haven't left, been loyal to this game for very long. i don't regret it as well.
What’s ur account level?
Season 2 was cool, 3 was def when I had the most fun though
i have been playing since the start of season 4 and i haven't left.
well apart from chapter 2 season 6.... you can excuse me for that though
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What an awesome channel. Love all your videos so far - really great topics and insights!
i have a feeling that another reason why the game hasn't died yet is because of its story and events
It kinda feels like a story game while also being a social/ competitive multiplayer battle royale game. Many people might be invested in the story and want to see what happens next thus making then come back to play the game
No offense but the story isn’t their focus i play and the story is rarely mentioned in game
Another reason Fortnite hasn’t died is because it’s one of few games that constantly listen to the community. Many loved things are fan made like meowscles, haunted hills and chug splashes. All are things that come to mind when you think of Fortnite and that’s how you keep an engaged community
In two months this aged like milk
This channel is crazy! Your analyses are so relevant and show a deep knowledge of the topics and the industry in general. I'm loving it
Optimus is coming to fortnite the kinetic boomerang
About the lawsuit they didn't go through it, because it obviously had no ground. Not only would they completely lose it, but Epic would probably win a counter lawsuit.
coming back to this after the release of lego fortnite and rocket racing with festival on the way and god knows what else, this game is here to stay.
Idk if id term them doing a bunch of collabs as a "social" thing. But it defo helps sales cause people like those other IPs and fortnites base gameplay is to always keep rewarding you with progress for something
Fortnite is the golden standard of how to make a live service game nuff said
Create a game for kids to want their parents to cash out on them, thats the aim.
Dont aim a game for an older audience.
@@MrOrangeonion Fortnite is not for kids... It's a game about killing others.
@@MrOrangeonionyep fortnite wants to be roblox so bad
@@lucipo_Except Roblox is trash in comparison
They've been very strategic. I could see this as a casual player. I was tired of the high skill ceiling and constant maintenance of the game. Most games when you learn how to play them and come back after months, you still know how to play fairly well and it only takes you a bit to reach your mastery a bit. Fortnite on the other hand is a game that you could miss out on a week's gameplay and return a good chunk of halfway back to being a total noob. I was backing the P90 meta when it came out because shotguns were reining king (and were unchallenged after that for nearly 3 years).
I felt myself quitting in season X with how wide the skill gap was. Competitive hyoe is good to start with but are you going to keep your small population of elites happy or are you going to shift your focus to the casuals which is less promotion but more revenue from your existing base.
Then come chapter 3 with 0-builds and that was the final puzzle piece that kept the game afloat. People could now better translate their skills across from other BR or FPS games and not have to worry about this whole new dimension of building. It became more Hunger Games which is what BR is intended to be.
Chapter 3 marked the end of a 2nd era. The time when most vets of the game moved on and let the new gen of people enter. I could see it in my games with the changes to how build-fights went and the general skill/sweatiness of opponents.
Each chapter is a new era. However I now worry there will be a new potential shift. The same way BR was invented to save STW but ended up putting it out of business, I worry the focus on Creative will now stretch thin the resources. BR is too popular overall to abandon like STW, but Creative is rising fast enough that they have to put a significant amount of focus on it. So much so the BR players are getting frustrated about being force fed Epic's Minecraft/Roblox hybrid of a creative gamemode.
Fortnite is always evolving and bringing new ideas for gameplay mechanics, maps, weapons, skins into the game. It’s crazy how much the game has changed and how much has been added since 2017 but you kinda have to to stay on top. I don’t see fortnite going anywhere anytime soon, they’ve collaborated with just about every brand, person or entity and continue to do so.
I remember the black hole stunt, that was fricking crazy.
The simple reason why Fortnite isn't dead is because they continuously add content. I don't just mean skins either which other games pass as content, but whole new modes, ways to play. If ALL it was was battle royal with a map that never changed, no matter the amount of skins, it would have died a long time ago.
damn this channel is not even 2 months old but it has 12.000 subscribers already. Good start!
People got sick of the bots in match making... I myself don't play anymore because of it.
For me, Fortnite was killed when people started tryharding it way too much. I remember that the first few months we just built to protect ourselves or make basic forts. When people started tryharding buildings, the game just changed
I played fortnite from season 1 casually. After not playing for 2-3 years I came back last year. No build mode is the only reason that fornite is currently fun for me. Honestly I feel it's a bigger reason than most of those you mentioned. Big omission but still a great video and channel.
Also how it's not just an afterthought. With the added movement features, it doesn't feel like you can't get around.
I was honestly really astounded. It felt like a new game entirely
@@JustSayRance Pretty much. Once build modes became so sweaty and draining, I had enough of being outclassed/outpinged, i wished 4-5 years ago for something with less or no builds. The only reason i play again is no builds.
Sure, my win rate still is not that great, but I don't mind that. No spamming, always a chance against better players, and can comfortably play on higher pings without massive disadvantage. A quite fun mp shooter.
Something to point out here - it is true that Tencent has a stake in many many video game and entertainment companies around the world, but there are also levels to this - owning 14.5% of pubg is just below the significant influence level for IFRS accounting standards of 15%, amongst other factors, meaning that they may just be treating companies and games like PUBG as an investment on paper like most of us treat our stocks
That said on the other hand, tencent is a company with so much sway and influence that talking behind closed doors to both companies to can the lawsuit is definitely a high possibility.
Chapter 3 I feel that feel back into comp just a bit but with chapter 4 it’s is SO heavy towards the casuals and is so much fun to play
Imagine a company so big that those sub companies dont even know theyre under the same one, thats crazy
Okay, reading the title, one thing comes to my mind;
People have said the same thing about Team Fortress 2 for nearly a decade now.
Neither game looks close to death to me.
you deserve more subscribers, really great content!
Started playing again recently and have been having so much fun. You just have to accept building is a skillful mechanic you need to learn to enjoy the game
I played it back when thanos was in the game and recently got back in cause i heard of zero build from a friend
and thats all I am playing right now,
building just isnt fun when the moment you try to shoot someone they build a wall around them and a roof lol
The reason PUBG dropped the lawsuit was because Epic would pull their Unreal license if they went ahead with it, meaning they would be unable to sell their game. Look up Silicon Knights v Epic, where they exact situation played out. It ultimately killed SK.
I didn't even realize Epic built off of FOMO (fear of missing out) also your cool for actually knowing/using the term.
Makes a lot of sense!
Especially when you think of all the new skins from popular games/series, if you aren’t buying them since everyone likes them, you’re “missing out”
To those saying "fortnite is a dead game" the 280million monthly active players would argue against that...
approximate which could be off by tens of millions
@@pronoob2422 which would still not be a dead game... it's still one of the games with the most active players in the world with a still growing player base. To call something bad or dead just cause you either suck at it or don't like it is just ignorant and down right dumb
It’s just so sad that the best games you have all those sweet fun chereshed memories from your favorite games but it just doesn’t feel the same anymore
The idea of highlighting indie games is awesome! good job supporting the indie game creators and the community
It's the only place master chief and ezio can double-team deadpool, I still play it every few months. It's fantastic
i remember when i played in chapter 1 season 3 i kinda hated it but then a year ago i saw that it has gotten way more seasons and then i got addicted
Great video. Subbing solely for the Kelsier love. Still waiting on more Cosmere Castaways
On god
consistent updates and cool collabs
zero builds
Creative where people can make their own genre of creations
not so glitchy imo
that no building glitch in fortnite back in february last year was one the greatest accidents to happen
Good video, but you're missing a few important points:
- Fortnite has always been (and continues to be) competitive-geared, with very few (but prominent) key aspects to keep casual players in the game - almost EVERY drastic change was heavily requested by the competitive side of the community, NOT the casual side. The casual side is hardly listened to at ALL. The main thing driving that side of the player base is cosmetics. This is coming from someone that's been highly active in most aspects of the community since Ch1 S2, and a creator in said community. The SMG buff was done FOR the competitive community - along with MANY more competitive-geared changes at the launch of (and during) Chapter 1 Season 5 - however, all these changes (including increased building / editing speed and reduce timed delay), have inadvertently made the game LESS skill-based, despite Epic making the changes to please the competitive community - the game no longer requires any true skill, planning, or strategy like it once did - and the competitive players LOVE that. In fact, Chapter 2 Season 1 was designed to be incredibly simple so that they could focus on competitive, and that's everyone's biggest gripe with that season - EVEN competitive players. Fortnite was always intended to be a social game, not a competitive game - and that's why competitive will never truly be competitive, and that's where the true problem lies - they're trying to make it something that it's not. The true downfall of the player counts in the community from 2018-now has always been, and will always be (until something changes), casual players leaving the game due to the game becoming too competitive - despite competitive players being hardly 10% of the player base, and you can put the blame on what I stated earlier for that.
- With your comment on epic earning less when "swapping to be a social game", you failed to take into account the spendings that were subtracted from those earnings. 2019 was the year of the Fortnite World Cup, and Epic spent more money than they EVER have before on promotions, collaborations, and assets that year. That's why the earnings APPEARED low, but they were very likely higher than 2018, when you subtract what they spent. The change to Chapter 2 happened at the very end of 2019, so that argument is sorta moot, especially when you compare it to the earnings and absurd amount of collaborations and promotions during 2020. You also have to factor in the absurd amount of employees they had to pay when developing Chapter 2 during 2019. There was a whole movement talking about how overworked the Fortnite team was. These changes weren't last-second based on earnings - they were planned almost a year in advance.
Other than that, this was a good video!
I’ve played it for years, it has good and bad seasons, but it’s always changing.
This keeps interest.
Yooooooo, another great video from the legendary, GOING INDIE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Most of the time when people say a game is a dying they actually mean they're personally not having fun with it anymore and that's it. They're just trying to generalize their feeling to the game as a whole.
How it started: stylized battle royale shooter
How it’s going: multiverse simulator
I think it‘s just us, the old player base, who is moving on. We loved the game when we were like 13, but now that we‘re all like 18 or above it has gotten different. Just not the same feeling for us anymore
The fact that my playtime for Fortnite is outlasting so many of the games I genuinely enjoyed but eventually dropped even after years of playing, says a lot-
Fortnite is a King dude. It towers over the entire gaming industry.
Amazing video and very nice documentary . I think chapter 4 really made Fortnite come back
Im actually really worried that it will die because a game called creative destruction was my favourite game when i didint know what fortnite was and it got deleted i dont want this to happen to fortnite too😭
With all live service or online games, I've noticed a trend... that you get around 10% of your peak player base sticking around for the rest of the games life or until a sequel releases, if you are lucky you'll have 30% of your peak player base sticking around a year after said peak. I've seen this with Fortnite, Minecraft (twice), Destiny 2, Among Us, and Splatoon 3.
Something else I want to mention about Fortnite is that it's a game with no big artistic theme to follow. Usually games like Halo or COD have to follow have to follow an artistic theme (military shooter for cod and sci fi military shooter for Halo)
Fortnite have none of that, and you'll end up having Kratos fighting batman with the infinity sword or something.
Infinity sword was around 2017-18 no way that could of happened
@@polishbrit7772 My bad.
I don't play Fortnite so idk the specifics of stuff, just from what I've heard.
Uhhh Kratos in a jeep or something idk
@@polishbrit7772 you could pull it off in creative
Well they did have a theme that they abandoned in chapter 2. If you noticed by the first collabs with marvel and the star lord and black widow skins, they wanted to keep their stw sort of style, but I guess financial benefit from direct collabs changed their mind on that.
Need halo pois in fortnite would be lit
I never liked Fortnite and recently got into it somehow, but I think what's great about this game is that they know how to keep everything ticking nicely to keep people interested whereas other big multiplayer games can't get updates/content out quick enough or make any meaningful changes to retain the kind of numbers they're looking for.
same i recently got back into it and i personally like all the diff game modes that you can play. i’ve been obsessed with the spongebob hide and seek one
i started playing it again cus they brought the old map back but not enough to keep me. Game is no different than it was before i quit in c2 s3. Theres no point even trying to get into the game if your new to it or playing it for the first time, everyone is pro players. Itll take years to get even close to that skill level & its not fun in the slightest. Took me less than an hour to quit this shitshow of a game again 😹 i wont regret missing the og season, just cus it has the good map does not make the game good again
@@updownleftright883 I completed the entire season and what not and finished the pass out and all the levels. Putting the game down now because honestly... its no better for me than counterstrike.... or any other game...
Fortnite to me is that one game that you come back to every few years. I grinded from when i started (s2-s3) to season 6 and then sort of just quit. Came back interchangeably season 7-X and then never really touched it again. Didnt even know about blackhole thing but then I saw chapter 2, gave that a try for 1 season, quit, came back next season, quit, and now all of a sudden its chapter 4 or chapter OG? How did 2 chapters go by so fast when 1 chapter took so long? I dont even know. I just miss season 4 not because of nostalgia but because of what the game felt like. Double pumping and everything...
I am good at building too.. I can edit decently and I even kill those sweats with all the skins and badges and whatnot showing they are chronically online and shit in 2v2 fights and what not. I'm not bad but... The game is either you fighting AI or you fighting tfue. There is no inbetween. There is no randomness fortnite had in season 4 where you could be fighting varying skill levels and couldnt predict losses or wins. Now if my health goes below a specific number in a fight i know if its lost or won already. Its sad how the game only got more competitive and less fun.
@@updownleftright883bro get a job, ive seen you comment like 30 times on this video. u must really hate ur life bud.😂😂
Back when people sold accounts , trading rare skins and playing with old friends
It waa good.
When he said mechs I swear I had a flashback or something I hadn’t heard or seen one of those since then.
i dearly love this game no matter what happens. it hasnt gotten worse, its just changed
Nah... chapter 1 map and graphics were the best. The game is just a mess now. Full of things, way too much. Was better when it was simple. Until season X was amazing. Now it's garbage
@@TiagoGuerrawdym, chapter 2 season 2 was goated, it was good until like chapter 2 season 6
@@Synchr0n1zedSeason 6 was also good, most just complained too much to have fun
@@TiagoGuerrayou're probably just saying that because you were like 5 when chapter 1 came out
from someone who played in september 2017 fortnite was a really fun game absolutely loved it, i don’t play it anymore for me it’s just boring i don’t have the same feel for it anymore, i also believe the game is still alive because there’s a whole new player base, i would say the majority of the OG player base is probably gone or rarely plays anymore, 2017-2019 was for me the best years for fortnite i absolutely loved the old map and the old textures and the best feeling of waiting for the weekly update to come out, thankyou epic games!
Just say ur ass at the game
I didn't start playing Fortnite until Chapter 2 when the pandemic hit and everything fell to ruin in my life I discovered Fortnite. I haven't stopped playing since.
@@taelin-rh3wi same started chapter 1 and loved it
To me, Fortnite always has a way of bringing me back in after a month or two of not playing. The subtle mid season changes, new game modes, and social opportunities are one of a kind.
I have to say my favorite thing though is the fact that you don’t need to pour money into it to enjoy the full experience. You buy the battle pass ONCE, and if you play it, you will have more than enough vbucks for the next season. It’s awesome. No other game does it like Fortnite.
This thumbnail got me bro, 🤦it's so damn good 😅
Kelsier is the only reason I play Fortnite. Every now and then I go back just to see the skin again.
Respect! 🫡
Chapter 2 was sooo good I miss the map, I knew every single corner. The best underrated landing spots. Good vehicle spawns. skybases
i played the game religiously from seasons 2-7, once season 8 came i started playing less, and in season 9-10 i basically stopped playing
I played season 1 I have clips on my ps4…
I miss these good days…. I’m glad I’m back tho playing it’s nice to play after a while
"DO SEE THE FEAKING VOID LOOK AT THE VOID!!" Got me rolling
"Just because you lost interest in a game does not mean it' dying."
Of those kids could read, they'd be very upset.
Not gonna lie I played during the popular build phase and stopped playing in 2019 because it was getting way too competitive. About a year ago my friend wanted me to play no build and I got back into it because it felt like a whole new game. Being a casual player now I honestly enjoy hopping on for a few games of no build and being able to enjoy it without being destroyed by TTV sweats.
WOAH buddy got stop you when you brought up double pump. That shit was broken beyond belief. Also the only reasons SMGs became meta was fortnite tried so hard to make the tac smg relevant in the meta of double pumps (since they didn't want to remove that) however once they conceded smgs were busted.
Either way the reason fortnite won't die is because its well established and is incredibly unique. You don't get the gameplay loop in other games.
because it's a quality product with constant updates, a far cry from other "games as a service" like call of duty nowadays
As someone who doesn't really play many other games that others call "Live Service games", I've always found the stereotype of them being "Barely functioning/ playable games that's more focused on making money than actually being a game" weird. Every other live service game hardly updates their own game, but focuses heavily on their monetization stuff. Meanwhile Fortnite does both.
@@TheEpicGalaxy21 you say that you are “someone who doesn’t really many other games that others call ‘Live Service games’ “ yet, you claim that Fortnite presents a functioning playable game with working monetization. I agree that it does both very well but, I’m trying to understand why say that you claim to not know much about the competition yet, praise Fortnite for their efforts.
@@gcharles3065 It might just be my bias but from what I've heard/ understood, the general consensus on Live Service games or just modern games these days is that they're all just lazy made products that are more interested in your wallet than being fun. Buggy, unfinished, full of predatory monetization practices, all that sort of thing.
And with Live Service games that have stuff like Seasons, Battle Passes, and such, it seems like aside from adding slight changes/ additions, the seasons don't really change all that much to the game beyond a different battle pass and season name.
Whereas with Fortnite, every season seems to completely go all in with it's theme. Medieval season? Half the map has medieval themed locations, medieval themed weapons and items, a battle pass with some medieval type stuff, etc.
@@TheEpicGalaxy21 But, does their increased effort justify what they are doing. In my opinion, Epic makes possibly the most in the entire gaming market by being the most predatory in the Gaming market. Fortnite has Exclusive Battle Passes, Fortnite Crew, and vaulting of item shop cosmetics to increase their “value”. With this new chapter I also noticed they got rid of season long weekly challenges (As in challenges that would get added over the season but, could be completed at any time during the season). However, I also noticed they allowed people to now buy battle pass levels past level 100. Because of how there is now no season long weekly challenges they want you to play even more now during the beginning and middle of the season rather than the end. Or pay for more battle pass tiers and/or buy Save The World to get more of the XP necessary to get stars so you can acquire everything.
@@gcharles3065 First of all, they actually reverted that change of Weekly quests only lasting 1 week. They're back to lasting till the end of the season now (Though all the quests that previously weren't season-long are still gone).
Also, as I've said in the other comment, compared to other games I'd say Fortnite probably does the least predatory tactics. Most other "Predatory/ Live Service" games do exclusive battle passes, and item shops that change regularly. So since pretty much every "Predatory" game has that, that kind of puts Fortnite and those games on an equal level of bad-ness on that front. Not exactly any worse than any other game out there.
I just think Fortnite's probably one of the least predatory among the popular "Predatory Live Service" games. I'm sure there's some game out there that's probably somehow doing the Live Service model without resorting to being 'evil'. But so far, Fortnite's probably the lesser of many evils.
That plus it's honestly still a really fun game in my opinion. I just don't really care/ mind for all the cosmetic stuff beyond the Battle Pass (which I get for free anyways).
As long as they find new ways to appeal to kids Fortnite will never die
8:32 You are a legend for that
They release some insane crossover skin right as people start to slow down talking about it, they know what they’re doing, they don’t need a player base to stay forever as long as they’re constantly pulling in new people