How Minecraft Became Unkillable
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- čas přidán 13. 05. 2024
- It feels like Minecraft will never die. I mean, how can it? The art style is timeless and the game has a little something for everyone. But there were moments in Minecraft’s history when the game seemed doomed to fail, and with another Minecraft like game currently gaining traction, it might be finally time that Minecraft, the king of video games finally falls.
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Prob not, cuz its themed. also u can do crossplay between mcje and bedrock.
@@lupexium3308 You never know, the game might get blessed by a talented game designer. But yeah, considering hypixel, I don't have high hopes.
I don't think so
I never knew hytale existed but now that I know about it, I can't stop thinking about it. It looks so awesome!!!
No it won't
"You never really quit Minecraft, you simply take a long break from it."
True
Ey don't steal that from Runescape.
came back to the game after 10 years.. GG
not my case. i "changed", it became too simple an too easy. i've been spoiled by mods too much. to the point that starting a new game feels pointless. starting a new survival game is basically starting a creative mode with extra steps.(context, i started to play in 2010 and i didn't stop playing until 2-3 years ago, so burnt out quite hardcore)
That's the case for most sandbox games.
Minecraft is the lego of games. For me it brings the same feeling as legos does. Follow the rules or a tutorial to build and enjoy, or do whatever you want with the pieces. Absolute freedom with the added benifit of everyone being able to play
so many games fell off badly. Minecraft, roblox, overwatch, destiny, and more
it never ends
@@LavaCreeperPeople idk how Minecraft fell off, the games you just listed lost their core imo but minecraft still has it's core. There are loads of things i don't like in minecraft but still the core gameplay is there
Because of my little experience with lego, but not entirely lacking, I do not associate my Minecraft with the feeling of my Lego.
Interesting to see your perspective on things...
A better version exists for no cost and is cross platform with pc and android it is minetest
@@joshwee4045 yes and minecraft is (or was) the bestselling videogame
How has Minecraft survived? It's a timeless masterpiece, that's how.
We need Notch more :)
Terraria better
timeless masterpieces tend to not require their fan community to constantly perform cpr on them
@@eltonsstuff Name a masterpiece where it isnt that?
@@RejvExamine Well about that. Notch was actually not very pleasant about minecraft's popularity. It just made him feel more pressured until he gave up and ranted on twitter. And then microsoft said yo can we have it if you don't want it. And he accepted the offer for the adequate pricing.
the reason why Minecraft is such a great game is because of how unique it is. It is not a first person shooter or a driving game. It enabled creativity for people to basically do anything they wanted.
they still have it up because of hypoxel players like me who like playing bedwars skywars etc
you're talking about minecraft as a software, not minecraft as a game. it's not special because it's unique as a game. it's special because it is a very powerful software that players build on top of. things like SMPs and crazy redstone contraptions and bedwars and skyblock can be constructed on top of minecraft because of its viability as a software. that's like saying legos are a really unique game - they're not, they're not a game at all, but they ARE excellent building blocks for games.
the thing you're trying to identify is its orthogonality. think about the core gameplay loop: break the world, collect the drops, craft new things, put the crafted blocks back in the world. the rules are simple, limited, and they _always apply._ everything can be broken. everything drops something. all of those drops can be crafted into something else.
there are exceptions, of course, but the important thing is that gameplay arises from the rule, not from handcrafted exceptions. compare with other games which are very limited so that you can only do what the game "wants" you to do - there is no orthogonal, systemic rule with meaningful applications to every imaginable situation.
that orthogonality is why people call it timeless, and what gives minecraft its depth. minecraft as a game is very bland. combat is easy, survival is trivial, gathering resources is a grind. that depth and potential that you're talking about? that's the _engine_ of the game. the exceptionally accessible and orthogonal software that everyone builds on. that's the special bit.
and it also can be a shooter or a driving game
It’s hard to see Minecraft just become irrelevant. No one has the spotlight forever but Minecraft will at the VERY LEAST be a classic that is remembered by many and played by millions like the original Mario Bros, Pac Man, and Tetris.
I can agree with this
The difference between the 80's and 90's classics is minecraft is still a changing game. Many fear that in the future it won't be recognizable to what we once loved. Especially if they discontinue minecraft all together for java.
@@bluetyphoon2100i hate when people say it because u can just change the version
@Woofa1 and with every release the minecraft community stagnated. 1.9 combat came out over half a decade ago and I can think of 10 servers off the top of my head who refuse to update any farther
@@bluetyphoon2100 They should abandon bedrock tbh, it's way too limited compared to java
Minecraft has basically an infinite amount of free advertising, so no matter the actual quality of the game and updates, it'll always be relevant... for better or worse.
They banned Jenny Mod. T_T
Let's Riot!
Hope another Modders makes 18+ Mods.
@@davidarvingumazon5024 fr? does it not work anymore?
@@goobles64It still works, you just cant get it anymore.
@@davidarvingumazon5024 u guys are all so low
@@BaconEyes literally google it theres so many sites
I think it's important to note that the java abandonment theory has no confirmation from any official source or any past occurrence that hints mojang would do this, as far as the latest update is concerned mojang still develops both versions equally. It's just nothing more than a fan theory because it feels like it makes more sense in a player perspective: if the game is suffering from dual development, just delete the version with less players. But this doesn't make sense in a business perspective. A lot of the game's advertising and longevity stems from the culture being formed around it through player made custom maps, mods, smps, mini games, and youtube content... All of which use Java for its flexibility and freedom. Bedrock may be necessary for more players to access the game in any and all platforms and devices, but java still has the heart and soul of the game.
I love that the video clip posted was someone claiming that Minecraft Java could be discontinued in 5 to 15 years. The difference between those claims alone is far longer than most games last.
That last sentence, that's it. Java is everything that has to do with the game's cultural impact. The most iconic servers, mods, etc.
Tbf, I don't exactly think it's impossible for Microsoft to not care about any of that, but the "less players, less monetization and makes development harder means they're automatically gonna discontinue it" mentality ignores the value Java has beyond that.
i really think people wouldn't be as mad about the possible scenario of Java being discontinued, if Bedrock actually was a 1:1 C++ rewrite of Java instead of "Pocket Edition for PC and Consoles"
@@SnrubSource the main problem with that is that they cant make a fully 1:1 version of java, you cannot fully replicate all the quirks, things like bugs which became features like integral redstone mechanics, tnt duping and anything the technical community comes up with cannot be replicated onto bedrock, mojang tries their best, but its like translating words from one language to another, there will be words for things that the other language doesnt have words for to properly explain and communicate and vice versa. both are unique in many ways, and you cant just stop people from speaking a language either.
@@Topunitoand IIRC part of how they justified that idea that Java would end up discontinued was more because of Oracle who've been an increasingly painful bunch to deal with over the years but they own Sun and Java as a result, that statement was made a number of years ago though I think about the time the name change happened.
I am 26 years old and I just started playing Minecraft last year. I feel so sad that I have missed years of it, but at the same time I am so much in love with the game and everything still feels new to me. When I look at those images of Hytale, honestly I prefer the way Minecraft looks. Minecraft definitely has many problems but I still think that it is an amazing game and I hope it will be popular for many years to come.
No you don't lol
@@dddripzyes he does I agree too lol
Hytale seem over complicated, Minecraft cannot be beaten. It’s next too impossible.
I am 26 years old and will have played Minecraft for 11 years this August. Trust me, you've missed a _lot._ Servers rise and fall like empires, great seeds come and go as world generation constantly changes, and forums launch and end... Really, I have no idea how I've managed to stay invested this long. Maybe it's the search for a home on multiplayer that I've finally found. Maybe it's the content creators showing me cool building tips and tricks. Maybe, I don't know, it's just... _the_ game I like to play above all others, even while I enjoy some other games from time to time only to put them down and pick up this one again?
Welcome aboard, fellow XXVI. Get your pig, horse, llama, strider, and/or camel, and enjoy the journey.
(As for Hytale, no. If I am limited to looking like some caricature of a human and can't be a bassarisk on two legs, count me out. If I can...count me out. It just looks _wrong,_ like a betrayal of the simplistic aesthetics I get from Minecraft. I might like varied weapons as much as the next guy, but if I can call a trident a pitchfork and not look too silly, I'll pick the game that lets me call a trident a pitchfork without looking too silly.)
@@SupersuMC It's the mod for me, having such a varied amount of mods and consequently mod packs gives it near infinite replayability. Got into mods because i saw the old video of how to make a portal to the aether, and felt so scammed when it didn't happen in my vanilla game pahaha. there's so much mods, some amazing mods with space, magic, building your own medieval kingdom, magic with plants, even optimization mods as well as generation and biome mods. the replayability is insane and easily my most hours spent on a game by far.
One thing that I love about Minecraft is its freedom.
It may seem obvious but for such a complex game with many different things to do, not a single one of them is mandatory, you do what you wanna do, and that’s the beauty of it.
chat reporting rules be like:
BANNING GUNS EVEN THOUGH THEY PUT IT IN A MARKETPLACE MOD PACK BE LIKE:
@@hichewies lets just ignore the Microsoft era mishaps 🥲
@@hichewieschat reporting really has nothing to do with the ban on guns in the game anyways guns in minecraft is just a stupid gimmick imo.
@@evilzach1586 its a gimmick used a lot, like armed bedwars, mods, etc.
@@evilzach1586 I never got it to be honest.
"Guns bad, have a crossbow instead..."
Essentially, shooting people is bad, so shoot them instead, but instead of a gun with round bullets, use a gun with pointy ones because then it's ok. Or something.
if Java were ignored, modders would basically take it over, virtually recreating every update that comes out on bedrock, but actually making it better, also microsoft would never ditch java, it's basically an advertisement campaign, it's what the vast majority of creators post on, and as such getting rid of that will basically ditch all of minecraft advertisement.
also I'm like 80% sure hytale is never coming out
That wouldn't be bad. Because there could be hundreds of modders working on it. I personally would help out.
Game development isn’t easy, and hytale seems like a pretty ambitious game. Give it some more time
Minecraft Java may be ditched, because Minecraft Bedrock has microtransactions.
@@OmegaCat9999but it won't because then Microsoft would be shutting down one of the best advertising campaign in history.
For the cost of developing 1 or 2 yearly updates for java Microsoft gets free exposure from thousands of CZcamsrs and twicht streamers, something that would be way more expensive if they had to directly throw money at it to get the same level of exposure.
@@felizen *hytale
I have several thoughts regarding many of your points.
First, i think the real reason 2 years had past was because they needed to discuss, coordinate, and work with Mojang with their goals and direction. They needed to figure out a plan of attack with code and limitations. The red tape of acquisition and direction takes time and so i think they started working on almost everything that was coming out long before so they can figure out what to release when to make the best sense. Look at how long games take to develop and they are pumping out new updates quite rapidly. These updates are also quite large in scope so that was probably a good thing they took some time to sit back and make a plan of attack at their new product.
Second, eventually Java will stop receiving updates. Java inherently is not great for performance since is almost exclusively uses cpu and ram. This bottlenecks how much you can actually perform (though modders have done things to improve this) and as you said it is also the best for creative expression as it is easier to work with for the community at large. Bedrock is now to perform FAR better, but the modding community suffers and it has many bugs i keep hearing about which java rarely does. I said years ago, before the acquisition, that it would be better to go away from java and use a tool, very similar to how Bethesda provides the tools for modding, that facilitates the community to mod minecraft. There is still a problem with that though. As java stands now it can almost be modded down to some of the underlining workings of the game. People have even undone the combat changes, or many many things. The updates to minecraft add many good things, but what they add is nothing the modding community cannot do (with not as clean work) given some time. As others have stated once they do stop supporting java (it is inevitable that it will) the modding community will just replicate the updates from bedrock edition. In the end, as some others have said, minecraft is digital legos. All the pieces are there to allow for creativity in interesting ways, the community makes this game keep going. The game itself is very simple, but the community coming up with mods, different challenges, restrictions, or other such things actually keep it alive and fresh. What mojang does is less than what the community does for the life of the game. People play older editions for mods and specific things not yet introduced, or removed. Hell, i have played on 1.16 and much of the things in newer editions was made available in 1.16 just because of modding.
Sounds like Minecraft should just be open-sourced. MS owns GitHub, so...
@@user-jl7xj5iz9k >They should just rewrite java edition in another language once it comes to that point.
That's... basically what Bedrock Edition IS.
The problem is that Bedrock Edition kinda sucks in that regard, it feels alien :V
@@higueraft571bedrock is just a port of pocket edition. It’s definitely not a rewrite, given all the small differences
@@crix_h3eadshotgg992 >bedrock is just a port of pocket edition.
...which Pocket Edition was built from the ground up, in entirely different code.
@@higueraft571 i think you got me wrong. i'm not saying it has the same code, i'm saying their completely different games (bedrock vs java)
a rewrite is supposed to be a perfect copy. bedrock and java aren't even close
Fun Fact: Minecraft's bedrock's boat crafting recipe now match java.
thats a proof that java is the main version
@@Knightfire66Wasn't Java always the main version?
Its the playerbase. Players like me keep minecraft alive
Forever Minecraft!
We need implement Chat GPT AI in Minecraft's NPC as a Mod, when Player usually ruins Villagers, we want to see a reactions. Also, interactions.
@@davidarvingumazon5024 Nah Ik why u want that chapt gpt in minecraft you wanna do stuff with JENNY huh? HUHH????? ANSWER ME!!
@@aclutchboy5389 maybe he has multiple interests, you know
@@aclutchboy5389 for Chatgpt... Minecraft is about teaching it about exploring itself and it's surroundings without human input. It's a "no goal" oriented goal... If you know what I mean.
Testing capabilities between actions and autonomy
Hytale feels way too realistic
I love how simple Minecraft is
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too realistic huhhhh lol that makes no sense
agreed
and other games cover open world- realistic looks, whereas Minecraft is just simpler and I love that about it
Agreed. Hytale's textures look simultaneously too low resolution and too high resolution. It doesn't look very good imo.
Minecraft is one of those games you play then you just stop but then you come back a few years later.
I was one of the first players in this "new boom", I started playing in the early days of 1.14 because my friends started playing it too, and I was instantly in love with it, discovering Minecraft is one of the best things that ever happened to me, even nudging on the best, it basically changed my life.
It's honestly fun to see how it's developed since my first version Alpha v1.1.2_01 though I sometimes miss the old sprites and I definitely miss Notch
I hope you get to enjoy it for many years to come!
-someone from the first wave
If a video game is the best thing that's ever happened to you, you have a lot more that will happen in your life to look forward to
@@houseofwonders1 That’s probably true to be honest.
"Why isn't Minecraft dead?"
Steve: *Slowly puts away respawn button*
Puts away totem of undying.
Puts away notch apples
Puts away 6-beacon setup
Turns off creative
Takes off nethriet armor
For a while I stopped playing Minecraft and played on Steam. Then I got tired of Steam and decided to play Minecraft again. It was so refreshing to play it again since it is so unique and fun. I then started to make mods for it and it became much more fun.
Yes minecraft is very fun sadly all my friends don't like modded like I do : (
@@aclutchboy5389 play solo, it can fun too
@@aclutchboy5389 So find a server that's starting, been up for a while or start a server with mods that you'd be interested in playing with.
You'd be playing with people who likes those mods and you'd be able to make more friends who like modded.
@@Gatrehs How do I do that..
@@aclutchboy5389 same
The fact that multiplayer is ran by the community and has ability to support plugins is the biggest factor, you rarely find a game with ability to self host servers letalone lets you build plugins
I've never really understood the 'boom' of Minecraft again, for me, the game is timeless and I always want to come back to it. I think I didn't play it as much after 1.9, but when i came back to it a few updates later it still had that timeless charm, even if i didn't understand all the new things it had been updated with!
Gotta be the mod community and the multiplayer community keeping it alive, the patches once a year are not enough to sustain the community.
and youtubers but yeah
mods are bassically the roots and yutbers are the soil and multiplayer is the bark
an dits funny how minecraft doesnt go all in mod community
Mods are always what keeps a game alive. Multiplayer keeps the attention on it. Skyrim is also well alive and it's all thanks to mods.
Facts
@@TheOrian34 sad berock noises
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Minecraft may never die but have you seen the TF2 community??? The player base is still thriving after 12 years since the game was launched!
last time I tried playing TF2 the game was dead D: is it alive again?
@@birdblackbird4766It’s in pretty good condition right now.
I remember the first wave of Minecraft's popularity. The 2012-14 golden age. I was 9 when I first started playing, and omg I loved that game. Still do. I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if it outlives me tbh.
>.>
Bro if Minecraft dies, it'll leave a big hole in my heart🙁🙁
It would leave me on half a heart
That's like saying the internet should be dead right now. 💀
That's what I'm saying
@@SGM_GamesYT So we agree?
i dont hypixel is up tho sane with pokemon pixelmon mods
typical die hard fan of Minecraft
The game is already losing it players 😂
@@Faizan29353 yeah yeah of course you are a fan...
Kinda sad about 1.9 and how players were feeling during that time, but I joined during 1.13 and the hype for its rebirth and I got used to the combat right away. I think it's an upgrade from the old combat code.
I joined in 1.6. I remember the 1.9 update and personally, I was happy with it. I remember saying to my brother "Can't spam attack me now >:D" XD
I've played since alpha and I thought it was a great change. I remember people hating the combat change as much as they hated the exp system, or the hunger system when it rolled out. Lots of the same "this destroys the old game"
i swear how is spam-clicking more engaging than an actual timer system to determine the strength of your attacks and a critical attack feature making combat more interesting
all of these (well except for spam-clicking) make combat more critical about when you must hit and if you should try and critical attack or not, risking being knocked back or missing and losing ground on your enemy
1.9 combat is so much better for PvE it's not even a contest.
For PvP though? I absolutely prefer 1.8. I find the new combat simply boring and confusing for PvP.
To me it's unquestionably better... but... being able to fire arrows as fast as you could click was a lot of fun!
Minecraft will never die, people playing multiplayer and mods keep it up. This is because not so many people play vanilla (singleplayer) and I simply don't understand why, isn't it beautiful to see how much progress you've made? Anyways, this game will always be there for us in harsh times :-)
i will never play again if java is removed, it is the proper minecraft and bedrock will never compare
i love minecraft so much, it lets me put out what lives inside my imagination... Ive always loved it and still do.
same... u can recreate or build anything in minecraft, whether it's your house irl, or another video game including the gameplay
No matter What take's over this Childhood Sandbox Game It will Always be my Go to Play with friends No matter how Old it is.
Complete Agree, at least for older versions.
yeah minecraft with friends is the best
Why Do You Talk Like This.
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9:37 This reminds me that my dad played Minecraft in its early days. I was born soon after, and with this stuff, he might have thought Minecraft was over. But now I’m getting interested in Minecraft and I want to make it part of who I am.
This is so crazy for me to think about because I was in middle school when Minecraft came out ☠️
I think what no other copycat game can replicate about Minecraft is how flexible it is
Yeah you can have a adventure world with crazy storytelling but other than that what else can you use it for Minecraft has that flexibility being modded, coding, servers, pvp, survival smp and that’s what other sandbox games can’t replicate is how flexible Minecraft is
minecraft has awful modding flexibility, you have to download a different version then risk your PC for mods on one of many unofficial sites.
@@winged_jackalopeWhat kind of excuse is that? There a re very popular safe sites to downloads mods from with no risk...
@@letmespeaktoyourmanager Yeah mods are mostly safe but it's really annoying to set up mods.
@@winged_jackalope You can search for modpacks then, and if none fit your taste, im pretty sure there are tools to ease the making of modpacks.
@@letmespeaktoyourmanager For modpacks you still have to download a bunch of stuff on unofficial external sites and their even more annoying to get working.
No, it was and still is the most popular modern game, and it won't die. Many people will leave it, many will join. Personally I have played MC in years 2012-2018, but I still have respect to it
What's IT?
@@vitorsalles5919 im assuming its just the word "it"
@@vitorsalles5919 just stupid autocorrection, I just meant "it"
@@ALPHABYTE64 oh alright lol
Minecraft will die but it will come back or will always be remembered
Great video as always :)
Haven't played Minecraft alone personally, but it sounds pretty popular still. I know a few people from my college who recreated our university campus and even "minecraft game sessions" I had at work -- they seemed to really be fun because of modding -- I'm thinking this is likely the reason why it is pretty popular
YOU HAVE TO GET IT!!! it is an amazing where you can do anything, so no matter what you like you should enjoy it
Some informations here might be already a bit outdated. The Minecraft platforms were already combined years ago via community mods.
Java Minecraft servers can by joined by consoles and mobile phones via the Geyser plugin/proxy, which just translates the data packets.
Also there are many pros of also having a Java version:
- It's the only one running on MacOS and Linux. Scrapping it would mean loosing support for these platforms.
- Even if stuff is written in 2 languages, the algorithms for the world generator etc. only need to be developed once and can be used by both teams. So the additional costs might be moderate.
- It also has advantages to diversify. The overall brand will be more resilient and doesn't depend on a single technology.
- Using different technologies allows to use the advantages of both for different audiences.
- Java is much more suited for server programming than C++.
- Java Is only maybe 10-20% slower than C++. Not 100-200%. And in some scenarios faster. Proper algorithms can be used to fix performance issues.
- Tons of mods and plugins have been written in Java. It's the engine where most of the community and server development takes place.
- Even if Mojang would decide to discontinue the Java version, the community probably won't.
- The consequences and damage for the brand wouldn't be predictable when scrapping it. Eventually having the community even split up more than before.
This in a sum doesn't look like support for the Java Edition would end soon.
Rather it would be possible to have a shift to a combination of C++ clients (which typically run faster on GPUs)
and Java servers (which typically are better with complex CPU-bound logic and networking).
Also, Simon is not working on Hytale anymore. Core of the Hypixel staff were Java Developers, not C++ developers.
When Hytale was sold, the original C#/Java edition was scrapped. They then hired many new C++ developers, visible in job announcements.
By that you can assume that the original Hypixel team isn't involved anymore.
So the game here to come won't have all the previously announced features anymore and will very likely be a totally different one.
Minecraft is one of those games I keep going back to. Even after a long break it’s like seeing an old friend and picking up right where we left off.
Mods, youtubers, multiplayer games, maps etc. I literally cannot play without mods.
Same bro
I play multiplayer i havent used mods for 2 years
Also free updates
@@nishi7484plug-ins are basically mods
I’ve barely used mods, if you’re patient enough once you develop a good survival world the game is super fun
I firmly believe that Microsoft if it really wanted to could update the game into the ground and ruin it. So long as old versions are avaliable with just the older features, Minecraft with the unlimited potential it has to be modified and built upon makes it so that even if the base game is ruined players will take things into their own hands and improve what needs to be improved. They have done it before and I believe with such a dedicated community that we as minecraft players have, they always will.
Minecraft... ??? What happened here? you just stopped typing
What is so good about Hypixel studio is that it's a team of people passionate about Minecraft that doesn't want to see their favorite game die in the hands of a trillion dollar worth company so instead they're building their own Minecraft with everything they wanted from the original game. Hytale is not a replacement to Minecraft but an evolution.
An interresting fact is that minecraft java edition even if has a lower performance with huge fps spikes, most of its problems can be solved by mods like sodium, lithium, iris shaders and some resources packs (capable even of rezolving bugs), giving rock solid performance and also increasing fps by big amount and I find it incredible. Also these solution are implemented by using api's, like forge or fabric, and not by directly modifying minecraft's code (which would give more power), and out there, there are lots of optimitation mods that make the game more lighter, more performant and enjoyable. Even if C++ would be a better programming language for mc, java still has a lot of potential for optimization, and our Modder community proved it to us. So I think Microsoft and Mojang should take inspiration from our community that loves so much that game and do these improvements.
238M copies sold?! Damn, I bought ten of those!!
Vintage Story will eventually get attention since it shares the origins on Hytale development bcs the creator used to work with them on 2016 and later he decided to create his own game.
Vintage story was more complex and very Immersive that's how I like mincraft to be.
Vintage Story is honestly a masterpiece of a game. Its basically like what every video suggesting major overhauls to Minecraft mechanics is asking for. I'm amazed that its not getting more attention, its so well balanced, immersive, and addicting in a way Minecraft really can't be. Its definitely not a Minecraft replacement or Minecraft killer like Hytale _might_ turn out to be, but its fantastic in its own right. It will take a long time for hype and attention to build though, I'd give it a couple more years at least.
I bought Vintage Story. They need to improve some things, specially combat, which sucks big time!
@@MedievalFantasyTV No doubt man since the game is still in development
Minecraft made it so far, I've enjoyed the game from beta. Its such a fun game. You can build anything, do anything and its just a game that I think people will always love! Thanks Mojang!
I think the biggest problem with moving on from Java edition would be everything the players built. And I don't just mean all the servers and worlds, but especially the mods. To say there are thousands of them would probably be an understatement. Losing Java would also mean losing all the dedication and tech that was put into those mods.
I swear, this game quite literally has a totem of undying.
a?you think they only have one?
I feel like minecraft is just getting better
No not feel like it is getting better
@@rocioabreu9242 shut up
Depends, some parts DEFINITELY better, some parts far worse
It gets better just don’t worry
Sniffers are an abomination
it's really a miracle that people don't stop playing this game. Instead of making a fucking LODs for their game that renders everything in full detail no matter how far away it is from the player, they make some questionable updates that take them months or some even years... Also the gameplay loop didn't really change that much, despite the fact that there's like 3x or even 4x more items in game since the last time I've played it in 2013
I've been a Minecraft player for far more than a decade now, it was my first video game ever and even though there were periods of times where I turned away from the games for a few months or even years I always came back to it. It is my favourite game of all times. Just this summer I went back on Hypixel to play some bedwars with my best friend, the one who I started playing Minecraft with and we had the time of our life.
Also I love that you mentioned "A Short Hike", it's an awesome game and deserves more attention. Played it while traveling half a year ago on my laptop because you don't need a mouse
I remember growing up, at a point there was no Minecraft, and then boom, everyone knew it. At that point, it was so big it felt as if it was around for a long time. And then boom, I thought it was gonna die, I had stopped playing, and all my friends did too. Then boom, it got revived, somehow.
The fact that you can do whatever you want in minecraft, is what kept it alive, total freedom within the game's mechanics, and then, there's mods to change the mechanics as well.... Now you get, total "full" freedom. Minecraft is more than a game, it's a game engine itself that happens to be playable by default.
I had this construsction set made of flat squares that could connect. It also had different little things to conect it differently, to have gate, to have car, or roof. Basicly it was the thing me and my brother played with before minecraft. That is what is so excitong since the content of game is simply not there. It is you who creates the game and it can be run fully on building or surviving, or having different mods in
I am still a Minecraft fan, and I always loved it. So much new stuff added, and more ways to go forward. Its still the best game to this day. Steve was the forst, so he is basically the sans from undertale, but for minecraft. I refer to sans as people know him a lot even before playing the game, same for Steve, if you mention him, everyone knows. You can see the reactions when it hit Smash Bros. I am proud of being a part of Minecraft, so much new stuff, may not be the same as years before, but building has been getting better.
Hi Ashish!
Minecraft will never die
Yea lol, this video is biased
The simplest answer being - The children yearn for the MINES
Something about Minecraft is just different than every other game. It is creativity coded into a game that anyone can play. It has so much freedom, which is unparalleled by other games. It is a unique experience for everyone. No two people play identically. That is why Minecraft is an immortal game.
Great video again! I love your " Should be dead " Series!
I feel like Minecraft can't die honestly.. Unless they get rid of Java Edition. As that would effectively get rid of the majority of the community given how easy it is to install and play mods on that version as opposed to bedrock (which you have to buy, and most are typically limited to a specific world that comes with the pack)
Even if they stop updating Java Edition, as long as it's still there, then Minecraft will likely stick around for a long time. People can create backport mods for every new feature and pretty much run a self sufficient community
Getting rid of java would make the game better honestly. To achieve a universal minecraft version, the better version must be kept in. The way i see Java is a bugged version of bedrock. For example, you will never understand how the redstone in java works unless you do your research elsewhere because you would literally have to understand the redstone bugs in java.
@@ultimatekingpharaoh3548 Bedrock is way more bugged than java ever will be.
@@SplinterZero1213 please tell me all the bugs in bedrock because honestly as far as i can see, java has much more. I feel like the only reason java is still a thing because all the youtubers are on it. Also a bug with java is that a piston could activate even when redstone isnt touching it, so java is extremely BUGGED
@@ultimatekingpharaoh3548 I don't play bedrock. But i have seen videos of people taking damage/dying out of the blue for absolutely no reason. and I've never had trouble with the pistons in java. Heck I have never ran into a bug on my survival world and creative. Only thing that is bad about java is the enormous amount of performance loss each update. and the fact that minecarts aren't fast. And would you really want to have a microtransaction filled minecraft experience? I don't think bedrock has hypixel either.
@@SplinterZero1213 i have never played java, just as you have never played bedrock. Also I had also never died out of the blue or taken damage ever in my years of playing minecraft bedrock (and pocket edition). Also the piston bug i was talking about is called quasi connectivity, however i think its been added in as a offical feature, and is been accepted by the java redstoners as a "cool" redstone feature. However i do not see this as cool because it breaks the laws of redstone, due to the fact the restone is not touching the piston, however bedrock fixes this. Also the one thing i dislike about bedrock redstone is the randomness to the laws of redstone, like when you activate two pistons facing eachother at the same time, its random which piston pushes first.
It's a good game and that's why we haven't seen it die, but Microsoft will *certainly* try
Minecraft will always be in my heart for many reasons. In my opinion, no game can replace the feeling that Minecraft gives. Notch will always be remembered. If he hadn’t sold Minecraft, I feel like it would have been so much better. He honestly would have made more money if he didn’t sell it.
at the same time, now he can get on with his life, as he already would have enough fame and money already
Hey man , Love your videos , Would love to see some Older games as well , or why some popular games died as well
unlike games like fortnite and such, minecraft can never fully die because of the infinite possibilities with building and such
There is a pattern here, if the game is really accessible like can be played by most or all pc and has modding community it will most certainly live long
5:19 you should link his video in the description because he explains 1.9 really well
1:42 I wanna say that the performance drops are not because of it running on Java, but because of the ancient code-base that was not made to run such a big game. This is mainly due to it not being multithreaded/async in Ticking, Chunk Stuff and so on
I believe Minecraft could solve their big problems if they made 1 universal version of Minecraft bringing the positives of both versions together. There’s just something I can today my finger on with hytale that makes me not sure about it
Its impossible with how they are both structured. Micro trans actions would be a necessity for microsoft, and that'd piss off every java player in existance, and especially if its made in C++ and can't be modded like java, since bedrock can only have add-ons which severely limits the scope of modifications. Why else do you think why you don't see something like create in bedrock? Because its simply impossible with how its structured.
@@alternativeaccountmercuryc++ can be moded 💀 the problem with bedrock is it's closed source so making mods on it has to be an official way which add-ons does greatly! I switched from modding in java to add-ons because java just sucks and the only thing missing in add-ons is developers.
@@Roxve java indeed sucks
Just discovered you can mod it with reverse engineering (i don't know what that is because i am not an expert programmer) but you cannot share the mod with others pretty sure you can make your own mod loader using this i will try to learn it.
EDIT:
There is already a mod loader using this called Zenova but it ain't popular
@@ultimatekingpharaoh3548 from experience DON'T LEARN JAVA AS YOUR FIRST (you should start with scratch but i am talking about programming languages) you can learn c# because it actually has a syntax that makes sense or something popular like python (it also sucks but lots of people like it /:)
Minecraft is quite the "home" i can always come back to once i gain access to it that is
The thing that I love about java edition is the liberty it gives. You can play which version you want, you can install which mods you want and do all the things you would like. The thing that make me worry about the bedrock edition it's how Microsoft tries to add microtransation and pay walls for basically everything, even mods, trying to milk the most possible from players. Seeing these marketing strategies making their way on minecraft really disappoints me and worries about its future, especially because there is a possibility that the 2 version would merge together.
Minecraft was such a huge part of my childhood as I’m sure it was for many others. While I don’t play Minecraft nearly as often as I used to when I do go back to it always brings back so many memories! 🥰
Minecraft (and Terraria too) are like the TF2 of pixel sandbox games. The old animations and community are never going to go away completely. They might get down to absurdly low amounts... but they will mever be truly gone.
What I love about MC is that I can do as I please in it. I've never been to the End, nor fought the dragon that resides there. I spend my time, walking, climbing, rowing, fishing, farming, and mining. If I can see what's over the next hill or around the river bend, I am content.
Hypixel lacks the one thing which kept the game relevant for most of it's players: Mods. Lots and lots of mods.
Even despite the amount of times i say i quit due to the game crashing in the 1.20 update Minecraft always finds me crawling back without a word 😂
Same 😂
Minecraft is almost part of everyone's childhoods now. No wonder it's not dead nor showing any sign of dying.
Minecraft is a game where you build the world you want to live in. There are a lot of sandbox games out there, but not a single one that does it better than minecraft.
I got 3/4 through this video to realize it was a giant ad
As a Hytale enthusiast, I'm pleasantly surprised to see it was mentioned and it's potential talked about in this video. I've been so excited for Hytale because I'm one of those people that feel like Minecraft will never fix it's biggest issues and that it always had potential to be more than it already is. Hytale would be the answer to that. But I feel like many people have forgotten about Hytale, since updates from the developers have been pretty slow recently and it's been 4 years since it was announced. I'd like to believe that it will still reach great heights once it releases. Maybe it won't beat out Minecraft in the long run but it could at least be as popular as something like Terraria. We'll have to wait and see once it releases.
@@code-of-gooFr I got terraria vibes aswell
What makes me feel Hytale will succeed even if it doesn't blow up on release is the promise of supporting mods developed by players.
if they fulfill that promise and mod devs are satisfied with the native modding tools they provide, Hytale will be so much more than it's initial release.
People keep bringing up TF2, which has a community so dedicated, that through 5 years of ZERO major updates, the game is still incredibly popular. Minecraft is an even bigger game. Unless Microsoft seriously does something awful to it, it won't die. It can't die.
Throwing in my two cents, I started playing this game in 2011 when I was 5. Although I have grown up now and am almost a legal adult, I still play this game every single day. I took breaks sometimes, but in the end I would always come back for more. I know I'm not the only one who feels *this* connected to the game. Realistically, if Microsoft *did* do something that killed the game, I might honestly keep playing older versions for the nostalgia alone.
When I first learned about Hytale I thought that it'd be a rival for Minecraft, but wouldn't kill it.
Now after seeing Mojang suffocating their own game, I'm of the opinion that Hytale will finish Minecraft off.
Leaving minecraft behind is like quitting smoking. You will quit many times but always have that urge whenever you see it or see others playing it and come back to get your minecraft fix
Minecraft is an experience, and an experience that fun and good can never die that easily. Even if it does it will be a monument that took the world by surprise and will always be remembered as the Greatest of all games
Hytale shows a lot of promise, but it feels like it will never release. Like, ever.
But, looking at their blog, it does seem they are still working on it. I believe that once it realeases, even if it takes another 5 years, it will absolutely detonate in popularity.
that being said, at least early on. people liked Minecraft's simplicity and janky blocky nature. Hytale almost seems TOO polished and great. But time will tell if it succeeds.
Side note, being written in C++ really has no effect on performance in the long run. With mods, Java edition can completely blow Bedrock Edition out of the water in terms of performance. It all depends on how much effort the team puts into optimizing the game.
In fact, using Java might be a reason the game succeeded; Java applications are extremely easy to beak apart and modify - They didn't even need an official modding API, because the programming language itself allows for moding by default. Compare to C++ where modding without an official API is basically impossible.
Hypixel studio just want to take their time. They want to deliver the best product because they know dang well that if the game isn't perfect from launch, people will call it a minecraft copy and will never pay attention to the game again
@@Pengouinn Exactly. They're putting a ton of work into making it as good as possible before release.
12:15 Fun Fact: You can gets Mods for Bedrock for free on websites like Java, I don't even use the Marketplace, I get mods from online for FREE
The Moment Minecraft discontinues java thats the moment Minecraft is dead
I really do hope Hytale succeeds, not just for the sake of their beloved developers, but also for Minecraft. I see a future for these two similar to what happened between Valorant and Counter-Strike, where healthy competition made Valve have to keep up with Valorant and improve CS on a more frequent rate.
I hope it becomes a minecraft and Terraria where they both said to play the other.
@@joeburns8054 I don't think that'll be the case lol.
Minecraft and Terraria released pretty close in time to each other and Terraria is very much its own thing anyways. The comparisons between the two games were always quite superficial and they weren't ever really competing with each other that much. Terraria just took inspiration from a few basic ideas from Minecraft but it plays VERY differently. Minecraft didn't have much to lose from promoting Terraria and rejecting the (at the time) widespread idea that it's just a cheap Minecraft copy. Same for Terraria.
Meanwhile, Hytale is basically Minecraft+. It's trying to be a straight upgrade. I do not see Minecraft promoting Hytale, that would be like suicide, the two games will be fiercely competing with each other.
Maybe the real Minecraft is the voxels we made along the way?
True this is something iv thought about as iv grown older especially after I saw games come and go new games old games new games that loose relevancy all of it! But somehow Minecraft survived it all I think it dose have maybe popularity peaks and drops but I feel it’s always been relevant in some way it’s crazy I mean I played this game when I was a kid on ps3 in middleschool. I’m 20 in the workforce 2y in and I’m still regularly playing Minecraft as other games iv bought consumed and never tourched again, but Minecraft iv always consistently played I wonder why it’s magic never dies its crazy to think about. If the game ever goes die its going to feel surreal just like its feeling right now with some of these golden era CZcamsrs leaving one that hit me hard was mattpatt iv been watching for forever so hearing he is leaving it feels almost unreal just as it will feel if Minecraft ever dies for real! Anyways have a nice day guys!!
WHY WONT YOU DIEE??!
minecraft: HA! Nanoblocks son!
Incredible video quality
As nice as Hytale looks, the difference is high pixel count to Minecraft's more retro low pixel count.
Hytale to me is not giving off the retro 8-bit vibe of Minecraft, but it is giving off the kinda MMORPG style vibe similar to games like Warcraft and Runescape, but with the added feature of being a sandbox.
Hytale will gain a great audience, but to call it the next Minecraft, is like saying the Nintendo Switch is the new Game Boy.
Also the issue with Java is an issue with Java script itself, Im not sure the company that makes the program for Java but they may be limiting the programs capability which then dominos down to Mojang having to work with Java's strength and weaknesses.
Hytale ain’t coming out anytime soon anyway
Issues that I personally see, coming from the perspective of a person who's played ever since it was a browser game NOT titled Minecraft. Honestly there is so much built up reputation with Minecraft being one of the best games of all time, and it really isn't hard to see why. The game is basically Legos without the cleanup, and near infinite customization, for 30$. For a long time, there were near-zero drawbacks. It was just a small game, run by an indie team that was passionate about their project, that you can easily lose track of time while playing.
After Microsoft bought out Mojang, we saw all the red flags light up, pretty much the second after the deal was closed. No updates for years, controversial changes to the core of the game when finally updated, and EULA changes that were more corporate than anything. It really screamed to the audience, that the disconnect from the playerbase was about to get a LOT worse. Not only did they effectively kill the game at its peak, they used it as PR for their other products as mentioned in the vid, for their AR/VR headset thingy. It's like they were dancing on the grave of a game everyone held so dear and close. Even after all the bad things they did to Java, they were side developing Bedrock edition, barring the main creative talent from continuing the current game. To make everything so much worse than it could've been, Microsoft-owned Mojang decided to follow the currently most popular games of the time, and add microtransactions to their new version of the game. Sure, Bedrock runs much better and feels so much smoother, but adding monetization in the form of paid-for skins, textures, and mods seems a little bit overkill to a game centered around infinite customization and creativity.
Surely as time goes on, Microsoft will try their best to kill off any remaining players on the Java version, until they feel it is appropriate to no longer support development for that version. It already has tells implying this is what Microsoft wants, as it is MUCH easier to make Minecraft more profitable with microtransactions. Lumping Java and Bedrock editions into 1 purchase only confirms that they want to push more modern support to Bedrock, and make Java less appealing to anyone coming back, or people who are new to the game.
The entire reason Minecraft never lost popularity as one of the top games, is because of the infinite customization and the freedom to do pretty much anything you want. Even if the core of the game gets too repetitive or boring for the average player, there are modpacks that cater to just about any fan of the game. This is where my problem lies mainly. I could play this game every single day of my life as long as more mods and modpacks get added to Java, as it is free, and adds many, many hours of content to a stale game. I can play a new modpack every week and still probably never run out of content as long as Java is being updated. And the freedom to customize my own modpack or add things later that friends tell me about, keeps the entire game feeling new, even over a decade later. With Microsoft trying to remove this freedom and instead monetize it, it is only a matter of time before the game becomes another forgotten mess, phased out by modern games that do it better for cheaper. Like a COD or 2K game, Microsoft see the massive profits of these games, and wish to tap into the market, but in doing this, they are drastically reducing the lifespan of Minecraft.
None of this even comes close to the most recent EULA changes happening for 1.19 and beyond. Allowing a game with infinite freedom to be regulated by a MegaCorp as big as Microsoft, is only going to cause more trouble than good. Microsoft has always been known as a "take but no give" company. Basically just saying that they will push updates or make changes that their entire fanbase would dislike, and they wouldn't give a shit. Their EULA changes in the 1.20.2 update reflect their exact intentions moving forward, just as the 1.19 ones showed how strict they are willing to be. (If you don't know, Microsoft-owned Mojang, in all their wisdom, decided to try and crack down on content creators ability to create free form content or criticism, as well as actively block some of the biggest servers from having QOL features like queues. This only gets worse in the newer updates to come, and there is nothing we can do as a community since Minecraft is on the way out of the most recent popularity climb.) They will happily run a project into the dirt, just to move onto the next most profitable thing on their list of thousands. Even more apparent is that Microsoft just bought Activision-Blizzard, so now they have a few new huge titles to play with, and forget all about Minecraft's existence as it fades to obscurity.
Honestly as time goes on, I can only hope that there is some creative director or head of Mojang/Minecraft, who has enough passion to keep the game alive longer than Microsoft intends. Unless Microsoft decides to FINALLY give the community something that matters, like full modding support for FREE to Bedrock, their game will die at the current pace. It hurts to say anything even close, as Minecraft has been one of the most influential games of my life, having some of the best memories and even friendships stemming off of the game. But alas, not everything can always have a happy ending. Just goes to show that more people should protest future purchases of companies by Microsoft. I'm sure within the next 10 years, COD, WoW, Diablo, and other big titles will feel the same Microsoft fate Minecraft is headed towards.
TLDR: wish mega corps like Microsoft would actually work with their community, in a give/take relationship finally, and not lose all touch with their fans
ayo, i saw that snippit at 2:19 of the aot rp, Is that still around? I'd love too join a mc rp for aot
Minecraft and technoblade will never die
The main issue with hytale is the development progress, the initial trailer is now 4 and a half years old, and they've delayed the game for the foreseeable future "2024" but they said the same thing "2023" back in 2022 when they delayed it the first time. Hytale will either flop or overtake minecraft instantly because of what the development team has been doing.
People are being impatient and have (understandably) lost faith due to how the industry works. I think they'll make something amazing, since the payoff for actually creating a true Minecraft competitor would be unbelievable.
I don't think they've even said 2024 lol, I think last I heard from them they've straight up admitted they have zero idea when the game will release. It might release 5 years from now, who knows.
I mean, it doesn't matter either way. The only period where development time would've mattered was the initial hype period after the trailer, and they've missed that already so they can take as long as they want. Beyond that, for their success it doesn't really matter if it releases tomorrow or in 5 years. Either way the only following it has is dedicated fans, the hype for everyone else died down a long time ago.
hytale has no chance of ever overtaking.
@@StuffandThings_ The catch, however, is that Vintage Story legitmately seems more like an ACTUAL Competitor than Hytale would be :V
@@higueraft571 Yeah fr, I've had an account for about a year now and its amazing how underrated it is. It now seems to be finally, _finally_ getting its deserved attention. Really brings back the original magic of 2012 Minecraft, but with way better balance and more stuff to do.
15:38 I'd like to play it when it comes out but the block and character textures look very bad. I hope they add an pack and when you equip the pack the textures look more like Minecraft's.
Bruh to me minecraft started going south after the ocean update, I miss playing split screen with my friends on the XBox 360
This video should have so many more views... keep it up, your videos are amazing!
Very interesting! Pleased my overly bored mind!
Sometimes, a game just hits a sweet spot of appealing, interaction, game rules and a community that makes it immortal.
I mean, Counter-Strike has a whacky game mechanic right at its core (buying weapons as a SWAT-member?), and yet it is here after 24-ish years.
People: "Minecraft will never die"
2025: "Sure...."
GTA6 is coming in 2025 :]