Why Getting Relegated Would Have DESTROYED Everton | Explained
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 5. 05. 2023
- Everton are in a sorry state. Stuck in the bottom 3, they have just 4 games to hold on to their Premier League status, but the odds look stacked against them. Relegation is creeping closer to reality!
But what will happen to the Blues if they do go down? In this Explained, we dive into their sorry financial situation, explore what options owner Farad Moshiri has available, then discuss the future of their new stadium at the Bradley-Moore Dock. Will it be playing host to a Premier League team when it opens ahead of 2024/25? We are just not sure..
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Fitting that the person relegated from Stat Wars talks about a relegation candidate
That one there is a violation
â@@yandoayotte2034 personally i wont take it.
â@@fugaziishime Wouldnt HAVE it
@@JoshuaKimbrough whats that?
@@fugaziishimeyou said the phrase wrong.
Its "Wouldnt have it" not "Wont take it"
I think Everton have 2 years maximum in the championship before things get bad financially. If Everton go down they must come straight back up. It will be super scary and tough however if Everton recruit well; keep a decent core of players with 40,000 Evertonians, the atmosphere at Goodison when its rocking I think Goodison would be quite an intimidating ground for many teams in the championship so I really can see Everton coming straight back up. However it really can go the Sunderland direction if Everton arenât careful
Err? The repayment of a ÂŁ150m loan (due immediately on relegation) will sink Everton. How do they pay the wages of the dross theyâve signed that no one wants? Parachute payments already eaten up by said loan repayment. Administration at the minimum; oblivion and resurrection in the NWCFL a realistic possibility.
everyone is forgetting that theyre about to get a massive amount of investment
Thanks Lampard
They need to be bought by a state
@@12thMandalorian theyâre in one đ
As a Villa fan I can say to Everton fans it does get better, it just gets worse before it gets better, going down is exactly what you need, itâs not good but you need a major reset
Villa werent in the same mess as Everton could be in
I can agree on this.
My local team (LillestrĂžm SK) in norways top league got relegated in 2019 after a decade fighting for survival just above the relegation zone. Then we got a promotion in the first year down and now are fighting in the top 4 for the last two seasons and a projected to come in 3rd this season. We had a major reset and it helped alot. Truly a relegation can be helpful in the long run.
â@@yamoyum how did Lillestrom fall off in the first place though
@@black.listed Financials, bad management of the club etc. bad cluture among the club players. But the risr back has been nothing but glorious!đđ»
Lies again? Grab Beers
Watching this just after watching Everton pumping Brighton 5-1 at the amex
Three years ago they changed all the buttons on the lifts at Goodison Park to 'Going down'.
Funny you think there are lifts at goodison things made of wood
Very funny
Like Bellew vs Usyk....they'll Go Down heavy and retire !
One thing that nobody really talks about is how ineffective the EPL club ownership tests are when people like Moshiri are supposedly 'suitable' to be owners but drag their clubs through the mud with woefully poor leadership and financial mismanagement. Fans need a way of moving an owner on if they have serious concerns with how their club is being run (and not just a case of being relegated equals bad ownership).
Almost as if it would be far better for a club to be majority fan owned/ran
I agree. Letting Saudi Arabia buy a club as well đ
Moshiri got nothing to do with Everton failure , itâs people who run the club behind the scenes , he backed them financially which is the dream of most clubs in epl but directors board failed the club miserably. How can you blame the owner who spent 700 mill and had 2 class managers. Whoever bought in lampard and kept him for that long should be fired. Probably worst manager in epl history
There is NO WAY most of these Premier League clubs are not involved in shady financial dealings such as money laundering. I know they want us to believe they are stupid and just spend mindlessly but let's be serious.
Man city
As a Sunderland fan, I can't help but feel some Deja Vu here.
Bleak times ahead if they don't drag themselves out of those relegation spots.
Itâs actually quite easy if you have competent people making decisions (due to the disparity that parachute payments create within the league, which are just a bandage to the even greater disparity in revenue generated between the 1st and 2nd tier
Yeah it is. Burnley are a prime example of it. But the problem most of the time is the clubs that go down have done so because of their incompetent owners/staff.
â@Charles easy league ask burnley fc
Yea you have lived our worst nightmare. Hopefully next season we see Everton V Sunderland in the prem and not the championship.
Norwich, Fulham, Watford not having much problem though
I personally think it should be mandatory that every prem player has written into his contract a relegation wage drop. Say ÂŁ30k a week maximum. You could then tie in a relegation release clause of say ÂŁ20m that way it benefits relegated clubs not being stuck with hefty wages and players arent held at clubs against their own will if they arent willing to play in the championship.
Players that look to leave when teams are relegated have no right to they put the club in that position no good enough have take responsibility drop your huge wage and prove yourself to get the club back to where it was before
@@apollocreed85 In an ideal world you are 100% right mate. Unfortunately most players don't see it that way do they? Not many players that are too good for the division below will stay. For example if Everton do go down, no way Pickford is staying for example.
100% agree, the players would definitely play like they want to win every match! This video highlights a lot of everton players are there for a lucrative pay and not to play football!!!đ
@@adammalpas5924 yes it a shame they don't. maybe if every club had a clause in contacts in wagedrops and no jumping ship might see different outcomes
@@apollocreed85 I genuinely think the relegation wage cuts would do enough. Takes the threat of bankruptcy for the clubs trying to progress up the league but are too scared of over spending. Might lead to more shock seasons etc.
5-1 against Brighton away, with only 22% possession, 220 passes and 5 shots on target. True Dyche-ball
Ima Fulham season ticket holder over 45 continuous years and I so hope Everton donât go down they are the original club inliverpool . Iâve a big soft spot for them . And love their classic ground . Stay with it toffees .
Me to mate, I really like Everton.
IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN
But they are getting rid of that lovely classic ground!
Big up Sam! Awesome vid with an awesome VO
One things this video fails to mention is players out of contract. Iwobi, Mina and Doucoure are 3 of our highest earners and are all off the books in the summer. Davies, Begovic and a few others as well. When you ask how weâll deal with Iwobi, thatâs how. I donât doubt part of the conversation when Dyche came in was about if he could get us back up next season if we lost x players.
Weâd still be in a tough position but the wages would take a big amount of pressure of selling players.
Iwobi still has a year on his contract left.
Who else watching after they beat Brighton 5-1?
One thing you don't mention is that the EFL FFP rules are a lot tighter than the EPL's. It would be an interesting test to see how the EFL would handle it as you are only allowed a ÂŁ30M loss over 3 years (Figure might be out). Everton would hit that straight away in a big way which would incur a hefty points deduction and transfer embargoes. If the EFL went hard on them Everton would be in bigger doodoo than they are now.
Not surprisingly, the domestic leagues for the other countries than England had the similar fate of losing one of the oldest clubs. In La Liga, Valencia and Sevilla were still not safe for being relegated. Valencia, a club with 6 La Liga titles, had 2 Champions League Finals back in 2000 and 2001, as well as winning the UEFA Cup in 2004, had the same story as Everton. They brought a wrong ownership in form of Peter Lim and had a poor management just like the Merseysiders. As such, Valencia only avoided a relegation in multiple occasions, with the high notes being winning the Copa del Rey and reaching the Europa League semifinal in 2019. Sevilla were insane, especially with Juande Ramos and Unai Emery, the only 2 great managers to ever win the Europa League for the Andalucian clubs, but in La Liga, they had a worst season ever, spending most weeks in relegation zone. Everton is just like Hamburg when it comes to a club with the longest reign in top-flight football.
Meanwhile as a countryman of Peter Lim some of my other countrymen are now a bit wary against visiting Valancia over concern that their presence will remind Valancians negatively about Lim. Heard a criticism about Lim was that the club's leaders e.g. CFO, coach were recruited based on their closer relationship with Lim (I heard that the CFO doesn't speak Spanish also) & I also heard that Lim's intent on buying the club is to be able to raise his own credentials when networking with other people at various events, though if the club isn't performing well I can't imagine his credentials being raised a lot
Going down for me would be the best thing to happen to them. It would allow them to complete a firesale and massively reduce their ridiculous wage bill. Relegation didn't kill Newcastle. It didn't kill Villa. They'd be back in the PL within a season, 2 at the most.
Villa and Newcastle weren't on the brink financially before they went down
if they stay up they cant byy anyone so best option is drop down it wont be a disaster.
Everton are long overdue relegation they have lost their big clubâ tag and have been punching above their weight for quite a few seasons now ?
@Charles I donât think itâs silly at all. Our team Burnley are a great example that getting relegated was the best thing for us. Weâre back in the PL next season & a totally different team, all for the right reasons than the team that weâre relegated from the PL, just last season:). UTC!!!:)).
Newcastle lost ÂŁ90 Million in the 1 year we spent in the championship, it was a big risk
Excellent video, thank you! Do we know what the independant panel's timeframe is for investigating FFP breaches by the club? Given how far they've exceeded the maximum allowable losses, I'd be surprised if there isn't a legal challenge from whoever finishes 18th this season (assuming Evertone stay up).
Being a Evertonian for 40 years it is so frightening to see a brilliant club simply self destruct and relegation is simply so destructive to the club but we have simply spent so much we can't complain the squad is terrible lowest scoring team in all divisions only I think 2 away wins boardroom chairman and owner are all to blame for this e.t.i.d. nil Satis nisi optimum 1878đđđ will always be a Evertonian no matter what happens đđđ
They will find a a way out of it. It happened in 90âs. A couple of lucky wins , a goal of the backend of a player plus some results going in their favour. Even if they do go down Sean Dyche is the right man to take them back up.
Massive few weeks!
Even as a Liverpool fan I am shocked by this remembering the 80s when Everton were a big force in the top flight.
Youre goin down
@@charlieairey4207 some tough games ahead for Neverton
Seems like EVERTON players watched this video before their match against Brighton...
Even if they avoid relegation what will happen next season?
Few years ago they signed James in a good age that was exceptional in prem, Allan (not just allan, an allan that was on his peak being one of the best midfielders), Doukoure, Ancelotti as their manager, Richa being world class and Lewin being close starting extremely good their season having young talents on their squad...They had every tool to develop into serious top 4 contenders for the future wth went wrong
A PL without Everton wont be the same
They were lucky to stay up last season. Not getting rid of Lampard in the summer sums them up.
Frank Lampard hahahahaha
@@redboyjan In my country there's a joke that 'Lampard' sounds like the word for 'penis' in Hokkien
@@lzh4950 đđđ
I'd forgotten we paid ÂŁ15 million for Neal Maupay. Jesus wept, Brighton must've been killing themselves laughing.
It's beginning to look like Everton just might survive by the skin of their teeth. Leeds Utd. practically guaranteed their own relegation this week dropping that critical match against the Hammers and Leicester City aren't looking too good either for their pending match against them. Everton are two points ahead of either and can avoid relegation if they win against A.C. Bournemouth at Goodison Park on Sunday. But whether they can turn things around during a season of reprieve or not is still anyone's guess.
this content makes me respect Arsene Wenger even more. with Arsenal building Emirates Stadium and pay debt over it over a couple of years, and yet still competing for Top Four was one of a greatest achievement in Football.
while it's true, it was less competitive during his time in EPL
Lifetime Everton Fan here. The mismanagement of the club has been incredibly inept at all levels of the club (player recruitment, failure to be patient with managers/Director of football etc) and we are about to pay an exceptionally high price for that. In professional sports, the strong prey on the weak and we are weak and we are going down. We clearly broke FFP so further punishments are on their way. Moshiri has to either dig deep again or preferably sell up. We need to match the structure and leadership of Brighton and rebuild a club out of the ashes of the Moshiri era. COYB!!
If you think weâd get ÂŁ20+mil EACH for Tarkowski, Mykolenko and Gray you should pack this in đ
myko probably is tbh
@@yeet-qi7ys đ We wouldn't get a fiver for him mate.
@@yeet-qi7ys you obviously donât watch Everton đ heâs not that guy. Nkounkou could be the answer but weâll lose him for buttons too đ
Everton, arenât we?!
Everton above all these days have No soul, they were a mighty business reverred across the Leagues not too long ago - now it's all about how much cash can we get before we all move on. I watched Kendall, Ball & co in their pomp, now there's nobody like Ferguson even to hold the torch. No more derby matches & I watched fom the Directors Box or the 200 club seats... bitterly disappointed - all the free whisky at half time, I was always first to the Fee Table !
@@yeet-qi7ys every Everton fan I speak says he is absolutely dogshit, and I agree. Not fooling anyone sadly, no matter how much youâd like 20 mil for him
The Villa have come out a lot stronger. Will be top 6 next year.
However, the wages are the problem for Everton and also, the players they could sell, I just can't see them getting the money they think they will for them.
Have the expensive assets added or removed from their value over the last 3 months ? None of them look world beaters at the moment.
Bill Kenwright is 100% to blame for the mess we are in. He's been on the board since 1989 dragging us down with him.
Good video.. well presented and edited.. As a blue i think we have ran out of luck, if we ever had itđą
I read a post elsewhere and it stated that they are going to stop parachute payments, cos the other championship clubs dont feel its fair. So they want all clubs in the championship to get the same payout (example 10 mill each). Obviously 10 mill to a well run smaller club is excellent news, but may squeeze a bigger club with larger overheads.
this round of fixtures is so vital !!...cnt see everton getting anything out their next 2 games where as forest and leicster have games they can certainly get something from......everton and leeds are gonna be adrift......
You were saying :)
Brighton 1 Everton 5
It happened to us at Villa and we came back. It can happen to anyone. I think we were up there with Everton as the longest surviving 'elite' division teams along with Coventry. I don't know if Liverpool have ever been relegated?
They were relegated in the 50s. Shankly took over got them promoted and turned them into a domestic powerhouse
@@samuelalexander1014 So Everton are the only ones to have been there from the start?
@@I_am_Thursday Arsenal have never been relegated either.
Chelsea, Arsenal, Man U, Spurs, Liverpool and Everton have never been relegated. EDIT - Specifically the EPL (1992)
@@blahtoausername From the top flight? Then you are wrong!!
Not heard Sam do many of these type voiceover videos but thought he was really good
We'll get him on more then!
No such thing as a blessing in disguise when relegated from the Premier League to the Championship, if this happens major cost cutting will occur if they fail to return at the first attempt, this could be financially catastrophic
Keep hoping
This is this still, my club!
Letâs go Oba !!! Great video. Hopefully my toffees stay đ
Yet you get Liverpool fans acting like they are suffering atmđ couldnât last a day in our shoes
This is why it annoys me when fans of other clubs say âwhy are you protesting against your owner whoâs invested so heavilyâ. Itâs this right here. If we go down, weâll almost certainly end up in administration and our joke of a board didnât think to put relegation clauses in any player contracts. Itâs not just about going down, the very existence of our club could be under threat.
As a Bolton fan and having to go through the administration thing and having months where you dont know if you are going to have a club to support in the morning i truly hope everton dont have to go through the same thing. its soul crushing.
As a M Utd fan, too late now, but I'd happily be relegated to get our so called owners the glazers out . The game unfortunately now is about who has the most money. Everton are a great club of history, they don't need this.
Ohhh they always say this rubbish and they turn out fine, parachute payments help and it would probably help them clear the decks out and come back stronger in the long run.. see Villa as an example.
Leeds fan here I'mreally surprised Everton haven'tbeengiven points deduction for flouncing FFP rules are they being protected by the Premier league? I think so!!! If Everton is relegated they will not get promoted at the first time of asking! No chance! The EFL is a super hard challenging league to me the hardest league in the world often playing three games a week against sides that raise their game by 25% against the so_ called big teams! Sorry Everton fans if you are relegated you are in for one hell of a shock! By the way the EFL take no prisoners if you DON'T meet the FFP criteria they DO deduct points and fine you!!!
The FFP stuff is political its the Prem trying to show the government they can enforce rules however Everton hardly signed anyone last season; have been working with the Prem with every signing they make and the Prem overruled any case Leeds and Burnley had last year. Itâs corruption from the Prem and the Prem using Everton as a sacrifical lamb to stop independent regulators from chiming in
Agreed. Villa fan here. It's a brutal league to get promoted from. As you said, a so-called big team is a major scalp for considered lesser teams and they go hell for leather. There's no doffing of caps down there.
Tell us about it, it's brutal getting up and even more brutal staying there
A lot of your points made here are very hopeful and sound like wishful thinking. Wishful thinking that they are deducted points and that they wonât come back up⊠they might not but they genuinely may bounce back even stronger.
All talking out your hoops lads what have we done wrong fa donât protect us they want us gone
Im usually pretty good at understanding English accents but this one definitely gave me the most trouble. What area or dialect is this from?
Kinda wish theyâd release 2 videos a day over the weekend
If a club can be seriously damaged by relegation, then the problem is the structure đ
They have needed to get relegated for the last couple years. The club needs a reality check to get right and this is the way to get it.
As a lifelong toffee I can honestly say I do not give a monkeys f**k if we go down. I love my club and will support them as long as I live. we ARE the pride of Merseyside.
Such a shame the volume on your video is so low. Even at full vol on my laptop, it was barely audible.
From where I sit, Everton have lost their "big" club status. If Everton stay up, it could well be more of the same, struggling near the foot at the table. This might sound counter intuitive, but relegation could be a blessing in disguise, with Everton coming back stronger, and the board reforming more united than ever. Remember only twenty years ago, Man City were languishing in League one (Division 3), and for years they were the poor cousins of Man Utd.
if they go down, i don't expect them to bounce back up right away
As an auditor the fact they are being labelled as a going concern is wild to me
Same, thatâs a big deal!!
Very interesting
Them market values are very generous apart from onana and Pickford đđ
great vid but could work on the flow of speech. could def help make the video more clear to second speakers etc.
Damn.. Everton owner Moshiri spent ÂŁ700 million on the club, the fans still pissed at the owner.
They need to know for a big organisation to work, the workers behind the scenes need to be held accountable as well. Do they think a billionaire that has many other businesses, would have to micromanage a football club that has many divisions (player recruitment, back room staff recruitment, stadium operations, ticketing, marketing, sales, etc)?
Have some bloody appreciation man. Not all clubs are lucky enough to have all pieces in place. Pieces as in players, backroom staffs, front office managements, operations.
Should sign a sponsorship deal to change their nickname to the Toffifees
Hi from the end of May 2023. Everton survived. They need to take this chance and run with it and aim towards winning the title the way Leicester did the year after barely surviving relegation.
I'd rather we stay up but maybe the reset will do us good cash in on players and lower the ridiculous payroll
Toffees Go down - they'll stick. The costs are incredible at Goodison, beyond many in the Prem.
U do know if Everton win from the play off u make alot of money but I have to say they need new owners asap
Glad they didnât go down. With that new stadium almost complete and then getting relegated would have been the killer for this club. They need some good players in, investing in scouts would be ideal to keep costs low as they will need to. Finishing just 17th would affect the club a lot in the next seasons in terms of revenue so they have to be smart with their funds but at the same time somehow bounce back and fight for some European action.
It did Newcastle good didnât it when you look at them now? Plus weâve got so many wage carriers and dead wood to clear out, relegation might be what we need to restructure from the board to the players on the pitch. #nsno
Donât think they will fancy coming to Plymouth if it all goes tixs up!đđ
Big trip!
And that's the one I'm waiting for!
I'm a Liverpool fan and I don't want Everton to go down simply because I couldn't cope with all the miserable faces around Merseyside it would send me into depression , I would like too see Plymouth Argyle make it into the top flight I love visiting the West country
@@raymondsawyer8626 đperhaps they wonât now raymond, after their fantastic win against Brighton! Imagine playing the mighty reds in the prem. we can but dream!đâ€ïž
However, they somehow beat Brighton. I think theyâll stay up.
Utterly ridiculous, if Everton get relegated! It's not impossible but that squad is pretty good on its day. The issue has been lack of direction and poor management, exactly the same thing is happening at Chelsea at the moment. Dyche will almost certainly get the best out of those players but there needs to be that one thing, every club needs, continuity.
Well said.
how can this guy get work as a voiceover artist?
Are you complimenting him or are you confused like me?
@@mrartdeco i'm more than confused, he's terrible...
I stopped watching after 30 seconds and came to the comments to say something similar. This fake road man accent people force these days is absolute cancer to listen to, no shot in hell am i listening to this shite.
not much of a pundit/panelist either. i am trully curious how he got the job at FD.
@@suffixify i've no idea who he is. just that he's not very good.
This is great for football
Imagine Everton and Chelsea go down
Thatâs two teams frank has been in charge of in one season.
Good going that would be frank đđ
Frank is my legend, but as a manger he should never manage again!
Wouldn't it be more fun if u can get lampard to coach man city, man utd, liverpool, arsenal, spurs or newcastle & then get all those teams relegated from P. Lea.!
âMaterial uncertainty exists that casts significant doubt over the groupâs ability to continue as a going concernâ is accounting speak for:
If Everton are relegated, unless their shareholders pump large amounts of money into the club there is a good chance Everton will go out of business in the next 12 months.
Very scary stuff.
Thank Frank
Everton's Board has tried to hide all this from the fans. Now they are blaming the fans for the mess they have created. One way Everton might raise funds is to sell the stadium and rent it back.
Saved by Doucoré
I hope they beat brighton and get 3 points
It took Villa 3 years to come back. Villa were in financial mess with the previous owners. Luckily we were bought by rich owners in the Championship who saw a big club with a huge fanbase as a project. If Everton go down then the value of the club goes down. This may attract new owners who can buy the club at a cheaper price similar to Villa and move on from there.
Everton owners are rich, if it isn't for FFP they would spend next to city. They are appointing wrong PPL and they don't have any what they want to achieve
Neil Maupay must be dying inside bro!!
Derby fan here: we feel your pain.
Another problem is that if they can't complete the new stadium (because they can't secure the extra funding required) they have to restore the dock to its original condition, which will cost a fortune. And they don't have a fortune.
Not true at all. The stadium is financed until the end of the year; the owner can pay the rest himself if need be. Also, relegation likely wouldnât deter anyone from investing, if anything it just means itâd cost them less.
I really hope Everton doesnt get relegated. As an EPL fan who loves the derby matches, i would a shame if i dont see a derby match between Everton and Liverpool.
I wouldnt miss it and Ive been going to the derby for over 40 years. Trust me, the atmosphere is very hostile now.
@@1701_FyldeFlyer Wouldn't miss it either. Pickford single-handedly evaporated any goodwill I had for the blue half with his horror tackle on VVD and timewasting shithousery.
Brighton saw this video.
I need subtitles for this one
Look at burnley they only spent 35 million in the championship and had 75 million on player sales but they had a complete overhaul and had to change there entire squad
The problem with everton is they dont have many resalable assets i mean doucoure they spent 25 million on is a free agent, likewise davies,townsend and they spent 30 million on yerry mina hes also a free and the only decent players in the squad iwobi and gray well there in the final year of their contacts will players be willing to take a paycut to play in the championship?
As a Nottingham Forest fan
You guys are in big trouble. Going down is awful in the championship and very hard to come back up.
I think they do newcastle win a trophy come straight back up would be nice change
It won't kill them as a Plymouth argyle looking forward to playing them next season if they do
Innit. Can't wait for that.
Cant wait.
I have this feeling once they go down they wonât be coming back for for years and years
I would like to know how a football team that is losing so much money can afford to build a new football stadium.
A football club is part of a local area,s history. Some are older and famous. But, all have to compete & play by the rules. That said, nothing is certain in life. Swings & roundabouts. đąđą
When they get relegated, they'll need big investment to get them back up but long term that could be a good thing. Curious question here but if relegated, is there a Claus in a players contract that stipulates either a pay cut or allows a player to leave? It's a genuine question so don't cut me down.
A lot of players have relegations clauses in their contracts. So if the club goes down, the player is allowed to leave.
Anyone here after they just beat Brighton 5-1
If Everton do get relegated I, hope that Everton do bounce back right away. If mot I fear for Everton. I have a real soft spot for this great Club
Iâm Sunderland, and know full well whatâs itâs like, sorry blues, itâs a long way back.
What is a prize against Brighton?
Lampard could get 2 clubs relegated in 1 season
Talking of Chelsea in addition to Evertonđ
Any chance we can add subtitles or employ people who speak comprehensible English? Cheers.
Parachute payments are only good for championship teams that come up for one season
They will seize to exist? No, they will be sold to another owner, before bankruptcy if the current owner is sane, otherwise after.
Happy days
How many years in a row will everton fight against relegation at the last match of the season ??? Historically they are a big club but they just seem to be struggling to catch up with the big ones things shouldnt be like this
As a Blue id like say
"what a bloody mess '
maupay signing is still a mystery
Lets all pray they go down.