Is Rebuilding a used Dirt Bike Worth It for Everyone? | Honda CR250R

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    In today’s video, we ask the question of whether or not it is worth it to buy an older bike and fix it up to like new condition, or if you might want to start with a newer bike. Of course, the answer is going to be different for everyone. We hope this makes you think a bit. Used bikes are not as cheap as you think, especially when you start factoring in your time.
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  • @calabskier1393
    @calabskier1393 Před 5 lety +77

    I've rebuilt four two strokes - a 60, an 85, and two 125cc's - for my kids, though never spending anywhere near what Kyle and Scott did. As they grew out of them and it was time to sell, I recovered all of my out of pocket costs, but very little if any of my labour. It was well worth it though because I knew that their bikes were fit to take out on the trails. Plus, when your winters are 6 months long, working on the bikes keeps you close to home and out of trouble.

    • @Sparaco487
      @Sparaco487 Před 4 lety

      Don't rebuild a 04 crf250r!i did and what a nightmare money pit..missed two practice sessions because it wouldn't start up unless bumped after my first practice

    • @garrettblaster
      @garrettblaster Před 3 lety

      Well they get a lot of parts that are not really needed, if you were to just restore it to original you wouldn’t spend nearly that much money

    • @shanematis2902
      @shanematis2902 Před 2 lety

      You worked on the smallest engines they make, the cheapest too

    • @kevinmichael5284
      @kevinmichael5284 Před 25 dny

      Im sitting here staring at this bike I just bought for my son it locked up the second time he rode it.reading your comment made me realize there's more than just laber there's quality time with my son .wish me luck

  • @border411
    @border411 Před 5 lety +154

    I agree. I buy old bikes (working on a non-running 2002 XR250R right now) and tinker with them just as a stress relief. I then turn around and sell them for a small profit. I have days off during the week due to being in law enforcement, so while the wife is at work and my kid is in school...why not?! So.....win win!
    My advice....add parts "smartly"....put only the parts on that it NEEDS to run. Enjoy the bike, and then slowly buy the parts you WANT....
    You dont need the red hubs.....the decal kit....I mean....you added $2600 in parts you wanted to put on for fun. That brings the price down to about $4200...that aint bad. Buy a service manual and get the hands dirty!

    • @Abcd-hr9ot
      @Abcd-hr9ot Před 5 lety +2

      I agree i also have days off midweek.i work on d older stuff i find a proper clean .full correct service n replace what is broke is d only way 2 make d a few bucks

    • @sgtthor7830
      @sgtthor7830 Před 5 lety

      border411 I’m in the exact same boat brother

    • @motoben6520
      @motoben6520 Před 4 lety +1

      @The Oscar Report So true we have over 10k invested in tools, not to mention the shop they are in, etc.

    • @5elevenfirewood195
      @5elevenfirewood195 Před 3 lety +2

      Completely agree, that's what I'm doing with my98 cr keep it running and make memories that you can't buy with fancy parts, time and money isn't as important when it's a bike you really love

    • @backyardbraaapn1017
      @backyardbraaapn1017 Před 3 lety

      @@Abcd-hr9ot wtf??
      Your grammar and spelling is HORRIBLE

  • @dr.hugog.hackenbush9443
    @dr.hugog.hackenbush9443 Před 5 lety +35

    When you buy a bike, putting money into it is a given as the price of admission. Stuff is going to wear out, no matter how well its taken care of. I bought my CR500 many moons ago for $2500, and put another $800 into it in short order (suspension revalving, bigger front brake & new tires) I enjoy the bike immensley, but I know that soon Im going to need a new chain & sprockets, brake pads and possibly a entire Hinson clutch system. Do I do this for profit? No. I do this because Im having fun blasting around on my stupid-powerful bike that I plan on keeping untill the bitter end.

  • @dirtbikesicehockey4788
    @dirtbikesicehockey4788 Před 5 lety +68

    Key to it all is how did the previous owner maintain the bike.

    • @mrvolts9262
      @mrvolts9262 Před 5 lety +2

      shouldn't matter, if you buy used you should tear the motor down and rebuild it regardless of the previous owners claims of past maintenance

    • @dirtbikesicehockey4788
      @dirtbikesicehockey4788 Před 5 lety +2

      @@mrvolts9262 agreed I was just referring to what Kyle and Scott were talking about

    • @deborahchesser7375
      @deborahchesser7375 Před 4 lety +2

      And most don’t. I always did because it cost so much to even ride and race I had to do all my own work so I took care of my bike. Re-pack wheel bearings after water crossings etc.

    • @gmx0413
      @gmx0413 Před 3 lety

      @@mrvolts9262 that's not right. That would defeat the purpose of buying a used bike for some people who are trying to get a decent bike for a decent price.

    • @gmx0413
      @gmx0413 Před 3 lety

      @obglobgablob exactly

  • @RacerRed
    @RacerRed Před 5 lety +31

    It depends on the bike. I bought a clapped out 98 YZ250 for $800 and put $1000 in to it. I rode it for two years and sold it recently for $2300.

    • @joel387ktm
      @joel387ktm Před 5 lety +7

      jesus did you lube the person up who you fucked on that deal lol 2300 for a 20 year old bike

    • @mattheusabrahamvandijke8809
      @mattheusabrahamvandijke8809 Před rokem

      How much time did you spend fixing it?

  • @CheyneRiggs
    @CheyneRiggs Před 5 lety +4

    I enjoy working on bikes, especially if its a bike I particularly love, and I feel much more connected to a bike that I have repaired/built/maintained. I bought my 01 RM250 two years ago for $1800, and I just slowly work on it in my free time to keep it as fresh as possible. Didn't break the bank at all, tons of fun and stress relief working on it, and countless hours of joy riding it. Couldn't be happier with it.

  • @JETZcorp
    @JETZcorp Před 4 lety +2

    Recently had to buy a bike for my buddy who's coming back from deployment soon. $2000 budget all-in. Looked at a few bikes from the 90s and early 2000s, and most of it was pretty rough. Then found a 1984 Husqvarna 400 2-stroke for $1600. Needed tires and a clutch cable. Awesome bike. Condition means way more than age.

  • @fixit4u73
    @fixit4u73 Před 5 lety +6

    I just bought a 1988 cr125. The engine came dismantled in a box. Already in deeper than I thought, but it was only $200 and it brings me joy just to look at it in the garage (for now).😊👍

  • @Branhamjeffd
    @Branhamjeffd Před 5 lety +8

    I went through a 1998 yz250 and I'll never do it again. Took way too much time that I could've used for riding. I sold it and found another bike that had very, very low hours on it and had been well maintained by the previous owner. The idea of buying a newer, one owner bike for $4-$5k is a great one.

  • @markwindell3898
    @markwindell3898 Před 5 lety +13

    I have owned about 20 bikes in the last 8 years from buying and selling. And I have found a lot of very nice and solid bikes for about $2500 or less. You just gotta do research and know what your looking at. Great video though! I appreciate your channel.

  • @Wide000
    @Wide000 Před 5 lety +21

    I think that for the average person on a budget the important point is doing it with the right priorities in mind. First, get a bike that is in good enough condition. After, get what it needs to be reliable and in good working order. When the bike is running well and you can enjot it, you can progressively add the less necessary parts without falling too deep in the bling trap. A good mostly stock working bike is enough to have fun and to learn if you are on a budget. You can easily get into the sport for about 1/3 to 1/2 the price of a new bike if you can manage the mechanical work yourself.

    • @colten6996
      @colten6996 Před 5 lety +5

      Wide000 You didnt include tools cost. Not saying it would add too much, but if you are on a budget tools cost can take a toll on the time it’s going to take to rebuild

    • @nobodynoone2500
      @nobodynoone2500 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@colten6996 Tools are an investment.

  • @colecole4774
    @colecole4774 Před 5 lety +1

    Seriously helpful! I’ve been looking at bikes here lately to get back into the sport and after watching I’ve decided I’ll wait a little longer to get a newer bike.

  • @bikermike
    @bikermike Před 5 lety +1

    When purchasing a used bike the key is taking LOTS of time to shop around and purchase the bike that is in the BEST CONDITION you can afford and don't fixate on the MAKE/MODEL you want. If your picky on the particular make or model and don't take your time you'll miss out on a great deal on a used bike. They are out there but you'll have to put in the search time which will save you more time and $money$ in the long run. This also includes expanding your search area don't be afraid of travelling a bit further to make the right purchase.

  • @sandyperalta3734
    @sandyperalta3734 Před 5 lety +2

    Thanks guys for bring that great bike back to life. Great job.

  • @georgepartington6923
    @georgepartington6923 Před 5 lety +7

    I would agree with buying used and rebuilding because it will teach you how to maintain/ rebuild it in the future and build to your own spec

  • @tomasmolnar2890
    @tomasmolnar2890 Před 5 lety +1

    i love working on my bikes its the most relaxing thing for me... open a cold one tinker learn something and when it starts up for the first time it is the most satisfying thing for me :)

  • @powderrida
    @powderrida Před 5 lety +1

    4:45 says it all. I rebuilt a terribly maintained XR650R.
    First time ever wrenching other than changing the oil on my car.
    I'd say for anyone out there- no matter how long it takes, work on a bike.
    I've learned so much from pulling things apart and putting it back together (sometimes unsuccessfully).
    Some things will be above your head, but it's so much more satisfying to ride knowing if anything goes out, I can fix it.

  • @todda2026
    @todda2026 Před 5 lety +5

    This is so true! I’ve spent so much time working on old bikes, only to find it’s a lost cause, especially these new 4 strokes that tend to eat valves for lunch. In the end you are way better off finding something rather new or new altogether. Total investment including resale has to play a role if you plan to change out every couple of years.

  • @Luan-xp4sl
    @Luan-xp4sl Před 5 lety +12

    We have yet to LISTEN to this monster ripping the trails!

  • @jhonatanmunoz3683
    @jhonatanmunoz3683 Před 4 lety

    Man you changed my perspective about that, I got a working condition but beat up bike and worked on it to make it look better and it was a lot of stress finding and waiting for the parts and at the end of the day I found couple newer and cheaper than the one I fixed so now After seeing this video I’m saving for a new one, thank you buddies!!!

  • @jessegarrett7215
    @jessegarrett7215 Před 5 lety +4

    This is a great series and I love the summary without rose colored glasses. It can make a lot of sense to get an old 2 stroke but you need to be ready to spend some time or money on it, and you should have a running bike ready to go while you’re working on it

  • @olivermaskell6244
    @olivermaskell6244 Před 5 lety

    Recently bought, stripped and rebuilt my 06 250 sxf Payed 2100 for it and spent little over a 1300 for parts and a little bling (new plastic bit, seat cover etc) 3400 for a 250 where im from is pretty normal. And now ive got a clean, fresh rebuilt bike and invaluable knowledge because of it. A level of satisfaction knowing you rescued destined for the scrap too.

  • @codybear56
    @codybear56 Před 5 lety +1

    When he looks out of the corner of his eyes and says "or a four stroke..." I died. Like the tone of the whole exchange was hilarious 😂

  • @martyerasmus6421
    @martyerasmus6421 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for this discussion
    I own a CRF250RX 2019. However, I’m rebuilding a 2002 CR125R. I’m so happy you put this out there. I was never sure of my reasoning. However, one of the scenarios you discussed was exactly my case. I’ve got a bike and I’m enjoying the experience of building a two stroke from the ground up

  • @yoboo6167
    @yoboo6167 Před 5 lety +1

    Great video and food for thought. Now for the comment... Got my new Heather Blue Dirt Bike Channel t-shirt ... and it is AWESOME! Whoo! Keep up the good work haha.

  • @roostfezza7563
    @roostfezza7563 Před 5 lety +3

    Building up a project bike is definitely NOT the cheapest way to go. However you can accomplish something worth doing, and worth having. I no longer work, and cant afford a new bike, so have an old kx250 in bits. This bike I am rebuilding for a fun hobby, and I buy the parts when I can affford them. This means it takes me a long time, but I am learning how to do a complete rebuild, and get a nice dirt bike when its finished. In the end it will cost more than I can sell it for, but the experience and fun doing it myself is great. Still much cheaper than a classic car, and I dont need to be a master mechanic!

  • @collinmosher1426
    @collinmosher1426 Před 5 lety +34

    How do you spend all that money on a dirtbike. A full cr250 engine rebuild is 700$ max with every moving part in the engine. All you bearings are maybe 100$ for everything. Clutch is 150$. Chain and sprocket combo 150$ tires 80$ each. Plastic kit 130$. This is 1,210$ for everything. Now correct me if I’m wrong but you didn’t even need to do all this. How did you spend that money? Did you buy the most elite of everything? I’m 16 and got my yz250 of a trade for my smaller dirtbike and spent 700$ on a top end, clutch, tired, and bearings and now it rips. I’m just saying this isn’t much of an actually helpful budget build.

    • @swooleylast6939
      @swooleylast6939 Před 4 lety

      My man i have a crf250r i need a engine rebuild they told me the total cost is $1200 thats it for everything

    • @bradgraham8272
      @bradgraham8272 Před 4 lety +1

      yea you might be getting the top end rebuilt for 1200 but they arent touching the bottom end for that price. then if you need cams and valves its gonna be even more. that place is most likely only qouting you a piston replacement bud

    • @swapnifty8486
      @swapnifty8486 Před 4 lety +5

      @@swooleylast6939 4 strokes have basically double the moving parts of a two stroke, gonna be more expensive

    • @9mm_burana101
      @9mm_burana101 Před 4 lety

      I bought a non running 426 f and got it in good condition with 300-400 bucks. Used parts is the key to keep costs down. Newer and better carb for 100, used 05 cams with auto decomp for 60, plastics 100 and small bits for the rest of the money. Just the cams new are more expensive like 500 bucks.

    • @backyardbraaapn1017
      @backyardbraaapn1017 Před 3 lety

      @@swooleylast6939 that's because your stupid enough to ride a 4 stroke.
      They cost A LOT more

  • @jamesrazor4952
    @jamesrazor4952 Před 4 lety

    The last 2 bikes I have bought have been rehab bikes. A 2006 yz125 that was a complete tare down and rebuild and a 2013 yz250 that just needed a few minor thing. I race both of them. Building the bikes is part of the fun for me. I did the same thing with my kids bike and she helped me with every part. It's a hobby. I used to have new bikes every other year but I'm having more fun going this route and I build the bike how I want them before I ever fire them up. Besides saving money it's a nice way to spend time with my kid and teach her things.

  • @jesuspaez6402
    @jesuspaez6402 Před 5 lety

    I am a 16 year old teen who just happens to have a 2000 cr250r. I’ve owned this bike since I was 10, I first learned how to ride when I was 8 on a china 200 bike and never had the luxury to buy anything else other then a raptor 700r. I’ve trail riden my entire life, grew up with a mix of track and off-road riding and have competed on my 19 year old bike on Grand Prix’s like the lake Elsinore Grand Prix along side newer bikes such as the ktm’s and I am still able to dominate In races and trail riding. Every time something happens to my 19 year old bike like sprockets or chains or even clutches, I’ve done it myself. I certainly agree that if you are willing to sacrifice time and some elbow grease you can make something good out of an old bike. Just because it is old doesn’t mean it doesn’t keep up or is reliable. But if you do have the money for a new bike, don’t let that opportunity go to waste. Out of the 6 years I’ve owned my cr, I’ve never had to replace top end, bottom end or blown nothing motor wise other then a few chains, sprockets and some dents in my pipe🤷🏻‍♂️ if you are someone on a budget I would recommend buying an older bike and slowly upgrading it as you can afford through time. By the way Kyle, love your channel, you have great videos, keep on doing what your doing

  • @s4rg380
    @s4rg380 Před 5 lety +7

    But you do have to agree, standing back from your bike, and looking at it, thinking: "I did that", is one of the things that money can not buy. And it's a great feeling, (1980 Yamaha XT 500 RestoMod, ETA: 2 years.)

    • @SeaWolfEntertainment
      @SeaWolfEntertainment Před 3 lety

      I have a 1983 XT550J but I am restoring my 1983 Honda Xl600R Dual Sport first.

  • @509fmx9
    @509fmx9 Před 5 lety +1

    That's why a yz 250 is the best bike out.its a low cost bike,the same platform from 05-19.high performance from beginner to pro level..and parts are cheap and easy to find.

  • @dxquinnno
    @dxquinnno Před rokem

    11:15
    dude i love this underrated/unpopular point of view that’s amazing to think about, either way you’re winning

  • @mimothify
    @mimothify Před 5 lety

    Right on! Nailed it! the only take away not really emphasised enough is priorities, rings and small end will most of the time be enough to keep a clapped out old field bike riding. My first bike as a kid was $150 Yamaha DT 50 and after some carb clean and sandpaper through the plug gap the thing ran for years. new clutch plates nearly cost more than the bike. it didn't look pretty but I still got to go riding, and learned a lot about maintenance.

  • @quentinrance8974
    @quentinrance8974 Před 5 lety +1

    I agree border411. Just finished an '08 XCW200 build with my son and it's some the best time (and money) I could have spent: win-win. Now on to a hotrod '00 YZ125 (144 cc when complete). I enjoy spinning wrenches and riding and just had some major knee work done. Having a project bike in the garage has been a HUGE stress reliever and keeps me well connected to the community. I've built/owned ~ 100 bikes and have always approached it with the mind-set, do your research (don't mess with lemons), buy smart, and buy the newest and most bike you can afford. Then tackle the basics like fluids, suspension, bearings and seals. Most importantly, know what to look for (research), get comfortable negotiating, and always be willing to walk away. I agree with Kyle and his friend, if you factor in the time/labor component the project could go beyond the monetary value but I always ask myself do I enjoy the garage time - for me it's almost always yes since I spend it with my son (and his friends) teaching them how to take care of their steeds.

  • @xrussellx1187
    @xrussellx1187 Před 4 lety

    You guys are awesome thank you!!!!

  • @scottreuse1487
    @scottreuse1487 Před 5 lety +4

    2 stroke vs 4 stroke jokes at the end cracked me up😂

  • @JBarnes917
    @JBarnes917 Před 5 lety +40

    You can have a bike that’s 2 years old and clapped out... age is just a number. It also isn’t that much time, get your parts and you can tear apart and rebuild a bike in a weekend easy.

    • @mpoonka
      @mpoonka Před 3 lety +2

      exactly, they acting like they are spending years of there life wasted on fixing there bike

  • @bryanodonnell6530
    @bryanodonnell6530 Před 5 lety +1

    Love your channel and information you share, Thank you....
    When looking for dirt bikes, how many hours is considered old when looking at the 3-7 year old bikes? Thanks again...😃

  • @ArjanHarre
    @ArjanHarre Před 5 lety +2

    Absolutely agree with you guys. Personally I bought a 2001 cr250 as a project bike. It isn't a money thing for me as I already have a running bike but it is something to do rather than watch TV or play games on the PC. I'm not expecting to make any money or come out cheaper ... its just something to do.

  • @scottcrosby6344
    @scottcrosby6344 Před rokem

    I ask myself this all the time I once had a ktm 200 that was 10 years old I wrenched on it all the time and probably spent almost 3 times what I paid for it, Butttt!!!! Wrenching on motorcycles is something that I love it’s soothing to me and it was my work of art I made it my own. I now own a 2018 wr450 for super Moto and I do the same thing. Love your channel and the things you do

  • @gustavocorrales2053
    @gustavocorrales2053 Před 5 lety

    Here's how I did it getting into dirtbikes at around 30 and on a budget:
    $1200 for a running 2000 CR250R
    Rebuilt carb $40
    New crank + piston + Nikasil ~$700
    Rebuild suspension ~$150
    Chain guide + slider+ chain + sprockets (mostly cheap Primary Drive parts) ~$120
    New tires (Artrax, Motosports budget tires) ~$100
    Tusk bars + grips $50
    Graphics $160
    All in all I was under $3k into the bike. Additionally, I was able to ride it between those projects. I didn't have to get rims, hubs, a clutch, cables, etc. While it can get expensive, my advice would be to do a thorough initial inspection because that's where the savings are at. If the linkage bearings, steering stem bearings, and swingarm bearings are good, then you just saved over $200 in bearings and a TON of time. If the carb is in good shape you can buy jets instead of a rebuild kit. Ask when the last time the top end or bottom end were done and see if they have documentation to back it up. There's no way to entirely eliminate the risk that something is wrong, but asking the right questions and doing a thorough inspection can save you some time and money.

  • @DGfilms1996
    @DGfilms1996 Před 5 lety

    I traded for a 02 cr250, my first 250 two stroke. When I got it I had no idea about linkage, fork seals, compression and nikasil on the cylider. It needed a top end, I bought a wiseco piston and had had the holes drilled for the bridge, and it was deglazed. I had a chip in my exhaust port that luckily was able to be saved with a dremel. It needed fork seals, I had that done, it needed every bearing besides the steering stem, I’ve never taken off a linkage before and it taught me a lot about how the suspension works and how to maintain it. Luckily so far that’s all it’s needed. I’m probably only a few hundred dollars invested overall because I bargain hunt. But I’ve made relationships with people who helped me with the knowledge I need to know when something needs to be fixed and every chance I get I try and help other people in the same way. In the past 6 months of owning this old Honda I know 10 times the amount about bikes than I did before and I think that’s worth the few hundred I spent on parts.

  • @michaelsernst
    @michaelsernst Před 5 lety +1

    Agree with the thought process 100% it may even mean not going for the highest performance bike but one that is bullet proof. I went with the 350 exc cuz ima smaller guy and don't way a ton. And my power to weight ratio is probably better than some of the bigger guys on 500s. Saved my money and i'm able to have a bike that allows me to ride and not deal with added start up costs to get it running. love the channel thanks!

  • @stanleykania7184
    @stanleykania7184 Před 5 lety

    I love dirt bikes.. My son turned 20 yesterday.. We spent the day all day riding a new YZ250X.. He loves it.. Will be buying him a used bike..

  • @shakoiatenhawithacrossjaco9051

    I’ve bought all my vehicles old and used, and put the work in on fixing them myself. I’ve bought 2 used bikes and fixed them up. I’m at the point now, I just want something new that someone else hasn’t touched. Maybe one day for a hobby I’ll buy an old broken bike again to keep me busy, but not today.

  • @gosolobox
    @gosolobox Před 5 lety +1

    I have a buddy like that. We both turn 50 this year and have been riding together since we were 4 years old...

  • @bryangray2942
    @bryangray2942 Před 5 lety +18

    I understand your logic but I'm going to have to disagree with this one guys. This type of video says a lot about why riding dirt bikes has been on the decline for so may years. I don't think we should be discouraging a guy from rebuilding his 2 stroke in his garage for a few bucks, learning mechanical skills, and having the satisfaction of tearing a machine apart putting it back together. Our sport has gotten out of reach for a lot of people who otherwise would love to have any bike to ride.

    • @4.5.0.Garage
      @4.5.0.Garage Před 5 lety +1

      I agree, my favorite bike so far is the 86 it200 I'm rebuilding. It's about the passion of riding not about who has the best bike.

    • @bradgraham8272
      @bradgraham8272 Před 4 lety

      i agree. i chose to buy a 2013 ktm 150sx over a newer 4 stroke 250 because i can afford to rebuild a 2 stroke and i have a somewhat newer bike with the newer tech. the bike has 2 different ignitions maps, decent suspensionand chassis, and one hell of a motor

    • @jwjb9918
      @jwjb9918 Před rokem

      i love my husky wre 125 it's in bits has been for two years but I'm adimant I can do it and when I do ride freely and happy baby if I need help I'll ask a decent machanic

  • @boogiekush9391
    @boogiekush9391 Před 3 lety

    This is a fr a deep video , got me thinking about things now . Anyways great video!
    I started riding a year ago and fell in love with riding and also fixing it! just sold my first bike a 2004 drz 125l and just bought a 2004 yz 250 fresh rebuilt vforce 3 reeds , full pro circuit pipe and restyle plastic with Excel rims for 2300 and it's been just sitting in this dude's garage as mint as 2004 can be with the original stickers on it and I personally like buying used bikes because I think I have a good eye and patiences to find a good deal and also just love working on bikes so I choose to buy used

  • @candediesel1
    @candediesel1 Před 5 lety +3

    I agree 100% in the last year or so my primary bike has been a 2004 cr250 my total investment so far is $3500 and I could easily spend another $1500 and that's still isn't considering labor cost

  • @mattd757
    @mattd757 Před 5 lety +4

    Completely agree on the two stroke bit at the end. Scientifically proven! I lol’ed!!

  • @michaelholden8667
    @michaelholden8667 Před 5 lety

    Great video guys your the greatest you got that right two strokes forever

  • @AaronMartinCOOLVIDEO
    @AaronMartinCOOLVIDEO Před 5 lety +4

    Great stuff Kyle but didn't that bike just need some fork seals and top-end job and maybe a few bearings replaced in graced done to Jordy of time would have gone into just waiting for parts. And also I know the bike had a damaged swingarm but that might not always be the case. Oh well keep up the good work and I enjoy the videos thanks Kyle.👍✌

  • @ptft4
    @ptft4 Před 5 lety +3

    Good one guys 😃

  • @mod3064
    @mod3064 Před 3 lety

    What a great and interesting watch!

  • @andrewl7733
    @andrewl7733 Před 5 lety

    Did you guys go with the 18" rear wheel? Also curious if you think going with a wider 110/100x18 in the rear would suit this bike. Currently rebuilding an 04 for woods/gp. Sorry if you've covered this in a previous video, I didn't find any info in previous videos or comment sections.
    Love the build, thanks for helping keep these old Honda's alive! Ride Red
    Andrew, WA

  • @jordannorth5310
    @jordannorth5310 Před 4 lety +1

    when I was getting into bikes I wasnt sure if I was going to like it and my dad is a freak about them but I didn't want to spend a lot of money. My dad helped me find a 1999 honda xr400r for $1800 and I've ridden it for 6 years and it hasnt had a single problem. It was almost brand new when I got it so you just have to know what your looking for

  • @Johnr37us
    @Johnr37us Před 5 lety

    I am right there with him about the time. I detail vehicles and work on motorcycles and do yard work on the side. When I was younger I was way to cheep and now I do very good work but I’m not working for nothing anymore. And I also buy all my vehicles new.

  • @nathanstrunk7673
    @nathanstrunk7673 Před 5 lety +4

    I recently got a 2006 RM 125 that has factory connection suspension, 139 kit, excel wheels and talon hubs, new frame and subframe, etc. it’s been restored and a proven race winner. I’ve never had a bike and this is my first and I love the 2 stroke. I don’t think I’ll ever try a four stroke

  • @ryanRS250
    @ryanRS250 Před 5 lety +3

    I agree with the assessment to a point. Could have been done cheaper but you guys did it right and didn't cut corners. I've done the old bike rebuild thing a couple times and you just never know until you get in there what you'll find. One thing is for sure though. If you want it to end the way yours did it will cost A LOT. Lol

  • @MtnHound
    @MtnHound Před 5 lety

    Glad this video ended up being fairly unbiased with good points for both sides of the fence. My own experience has been rather good with old bikes. Right now I've got a 1995 RM125, that I've put in about $1500 total (including buying the bike) and 10 hours or so and has been a blast to rip around on. The only "breakdown" I've had in the last year was a fouled plug. But, it was a good find. There is always that risk of getting a bike that will suck more money from your wallet and time from your life working on it than you expected or hoped for.
    On the other hand, I know a guy who had a newer bike, but still ended up putting a lot of money into it. It really depends on the bike and mostly, the previous owner(s).
    It all depends on how you want to look at it, and I think Scott covered that really well with his past and current experiences.

  • @GAMMA_AF
    @GAMMA_AF Před 5 lety

    Planning on rebuilding the top/bottom end of my 2002 yz250. I love my bike, and it still runs great after 15 years without a rebuild. Somehow... I'm the third owner, and it was raced for about 3 years by my buddies dad, who I bought it from. I'm looking forward to rebuilding my bike.

  • @petersneddon9898
    @petersneddon9898 Před 5 lety

    Brilliant guys!

  • @hogster5935
    @hogster5935 Před 4 lety +1

    My experience with turning cars. Most times you never get your money back on restores. Best to buy the best item you can with the most money one is willing to spend. Also, sometimes a "beater" bike are so much fun. No worries and ride the beep out of them.

  • @NoTalker_
    @NoTalker_ Před 4 lety

    I want to get a bike but that 2 stoke mixing fuel and jetting things sounds difficult, is it Difficult?

  • @watts300
    @watts300 Před 2 lety

    It’s 2022, and I bought a 2011 KTM two weeks ago. I’m having to do 50 hour maintenance before I can even ride it. I’d really like to ride it asap, but being “forced” to learn how to do this kind of work is worth it, for the future when I get a new bike and am able to start fresh.
    I also have 22 Honda 250F, which is proving to be a reliable workhorse for when my MX bike is down.

  • @EnduroWithAlex
    @EnduroWithAlex Před 5 lety

    Great talk! My bikes are usually pretty much done after one year. :D Every single joint just start to get loose and the firm feel of a new bike is only a memory.
    My advise is to start with a cheaper bike so you'll learn how to fix it by yourself and when you think you are more serious with this hobby, go for a brand new bike. Then you'll have more time for riding, less time in the garage.

  • @michealsharpe9257
    @michealsharpe9257 Před 5 lety +1

    Buy what works for you I have a 2000 cr 250 and a 14 300 xc huge respect for both it’s not the bike it’s the rider .. they do not fall in the same category for compression but hey , they both get you on the trail .

  • @GooberSB
    @GooberSB Před 5 lety +6

    Almost $7000 for a 2003 Honda. Surely the average person would realize this is a terrible deal. Some will say it is basically a new bike but come on. Ok, it is a clean 2003 but nowhere near 2019 tech. it is worth no more than a clean 2003.
    If you get lucky enough to find one with minor issues then go for it. The truth is people lie about the condition of the bike to get rid of it.
    Most bikes on CL and FB are less than 10 hours. Yeah, right. A lot of them run, but the cylunder head is off and they just dont have time to put it back on, etc. Assume something bad is wrong.
    There are some good old bikes out thete but sorting through the lies and junk make it a chore

  • @stanleykania7184
    @stanleykania7184 Před 5 lety

    Good video guys..

  • @bretthochreiter2609
    @bretthochreiter2609 Před 4 lety +11

    for the most part 100 a month for financing and your on a decent new bike.

  • @manugatzi6158
    @manugatzi6158 Před 5 lety +1

    I've always account time versus value. I'd be okay to lose money.. just not my time. Thanks for pointing it out vividly.

  • @bhoges5145
    @bhoges5145 Před 3 měsíci

    I restored an 87 Yamaha BW200. It was a money pit. It was a labor of love. After that I bought a 2021 YZ250FX. I found so many things wrong when I tore it down. My next purchase was a 2022 YZ125X. Same thing there are hidden things that was hard to find. I did all the work myself but I think the next bike with be new or maybe hours old. Not many people maintain their rides.

  • @yz250brett
    @yz250brett Před 5 lety +3

    Any bike that works for its rider can be a great bike. That said, I recently sold an 08 KTM 200 XCW that fit that description. I shrugged off my local dealers suggestions about chassis changes etc in recent years and read the magazine articles about the latest and greatest bikes with a grain of salt. Two weeks ago I purchased a 17 350 XCF and am absolutely thrilled. I had an 11' once and this bike really is a vast improvement!I love old bikes too, but my suggestion is do research and find the newest bike you can afford!!

  • @ryanrgarman
    @ryanrgarman Před 5 lety

    My first dirt bike I bought used to fix up a bit and ride. I definitely spent more money than I planned on it. I nearly decided to sell it and cut my losses, but decided that I was too deep in and would regret losing the time I invested. It's a 2003 KTM 450 plated for $2400 and I'm about $3800 into it now. It has 150 hours and 3500 miles on it.

  • @qtubin
    @qtubin Před 5 lety

    Very good points. Making an old bike new again is about the same cost as buying a slightly used bike. Sometimes more. That's been my experience. One day I'll buy a bran new bike for the first time.

  • @A_Blue_1
    @A_Blue_1 Před 5 lety +1

    Flawless logic. Time is always a bottleneck. That said, knowledge is indispensable. Balance it up and ride !!! :)

  • @stechmer1
    @stechmer1 Před 5 lety +4

    If you are mechanically inclined, and like wrenching I'd say its worth it. If your gonna pay to get all the work done, eh not as much.

  • @gsxrgeorge00
    @gsxrgeorge00 Před 5 lety

    I bought a 06 crf450 for $1500 two years ago. In that time I have put 50 hours on it, and only changed the oil, plug, 2 new tires, and checked the valves.
    At this point, it could catch on fire and I still would feel like I have had more than $1500 of fun on it.

  • @JohnnyRebKy
    @JohnnyRebKy Před 4 lety

    Do these dirt bikes need such frequent rebuilds due to high rpm?? I’ve had Polaris 2 strokes go for years without it and do fine. But a Polaris 400 2 stroke don’t rev near as hard as a dirt bike engine. Plus a top end rebuild on my 400 is only 250 bucks

  • @clipped81
    @clipped81 Před rokem

    Love how they change the colours on 11.51

  • @ftb_savagegoat2646
    @ftb_savagegoat2646 Před 3 lety

    i would die to have one. 23 years of age never had one and always dreamed of it. be great to have one get go pro and make some content. love this video answered lot of questions.

  • @deborahchesser7375
    @deborahchesser7375 Před 4 lety +1

    You don’t make much unless you do all the labor and find cheap parts, even then it’s tight. I do it because I love doing it though so it’s worth it to me. I rode IT Yamahas for a long time. Thanks for the vid

  • @averageblokenbikes5013

    I had a favorite motorcross bike when i was a kid. that bike is 20 years old now. And i wish i still had it. Money and time is worth it when you wish you had that bike back. As a second bike. For old times sake. Thats my plains for the soon future good vid

  • @tndeere
    @tndeere Před 5 lety

    WOW!! I just did a complete frame off build on a 1994 KDX 200 and had less than $1800 in everything.I've done 5 frame off builds and have never had over $2000 in my bikes.I still have them all and they are ready to ride.Mine do not have the bling I mostly clean,repair parts and use them.

  • @michaelselix8817
    @michaelselix8817 Před 5 lety +2

    Time is the factor along with Mechanical skills.

  • @stanleykania7184
    @stanleykania7184 Před 5 lety +2

    I am in school now at the age 46... I want a job that will give me time freedom to ride when I'm done with school..

  • @robhernandez1827
    @robhernandez1827 Před rokem

    After looking for 2 months now this makes sooooo much sense. With inflation guys are putting new plastics and trying to get 4 k for a 05

  • @lolospurbeck9899
    @lolospurbeck9899 Před 5 lety

    What plastics did you use ? They look like newer ones

  • @CarlAlin
    @CarlAlin Před 5 lety

    What sort of decals fit those polisport fairings?

    • @Croseb2
      @Croseb2 Před 5 lety

      He probably had those custom made to advertise for their sponsors. You can find kits on eBay, Throttle Jockey and Decal MX.

    • @CarlAlin
      @CarlAlin Před 5 lety

      Thanks!

  • @jacobjordan7644
    @jacobjordan7644 Před 5 lety

    I rebuilt my first dirt bike a week ago I've never went to mechanics School dropped out at 7th it took me 3 months to learn it's running great it's a 2001 RM 125 I paid $2,080 for it when I first got it 5 years ago I got a kid along the way so I just left it on the back burner I just recently wanted to ride now that bike is sitting at 5 grand and that's on the low cost if I wanted to sell it fast to me wisdom is everything

  • @SB-rj6is
    @SB-rj6is Před 5 lety

    I want to know what you think about the difference in performance of the rebuilt bike and a new bike. How much is the extra performance worth or even at all?

  • @bryce099
    @bryce099 Před 3 lety

    I feel it, I'm savvy enough to maintain something that's either new or, I know what it's been through. I'm not savvy enough to guess whats happened and rebuild it. I'm in the position where I spent a decent amount of cash on an 02 YZ 125. It looked clean and ran. But, a the end of the day I have now an 02 YZ rolling chassis

  • @gragra556
    @gragra556 Před 3 lety

    On these bike givaways how is it done so that people know its on the up& & up?

  • @gregbacon819
    @gregbacon819 Před 4 lety

    There are too many factors to answer this question for everyone. If you’re buying to repair and flip for a quick sale, that’s a one proposition. If you want a moderate investment in a reliable trail bike for the amateur rider, that is another proposition. There are good deals on inexpensive yet well maintained bikes on Craigslist all the time. You might find one that needs a fresh top and new plastic, tires, chains, etc for a bargain price. With all the youtubers sharing knowledge and eBay sellers parting out decent bikes, you can rebuild a bike yourself to be very reliable and fun. And, it can be fun learning and doing. There is the added satisfaction and pride when you do it yourself. I’m fixing up a 2005 YZ450F that had a ruined head. I have all the parts purchased. My total spend is about $1,700. That’s roughly 20% the cost of new, so bang for the buck is very good. Personally, I don’t put a dollar value on my labor because I enjoy the work. It’s a great stress reliever.

  • @daddister7471
    @daddister7471 Před 5 lety

    A major hurdle for us California riders is that many bikes, due to emissions regulations, cannot be ridden during the months of June-September in many OHV parks or at any time in certain BLM areas and state parks. I've probably put $6,000 in parts and labor in to my $2,000 2000 EXC 200. If it were any other state, I definitely would have purchased newer from the get-go.

  • @cagleccc
    @cagleccc Před 5 lety

    In 2017 i bought a 2014 RMZ-450 with 20 hours, full Yoshi exhaust tricked out suspension and full Hinson clutch for $3500. Revavle 750$ D.I.D offroad wheels with tubliss $500 Handguards, graphics, skidplate etc.... $250. So a off-road race bike for $5000 with 20 hours, i have put 150 hours on it racing AA in the woods with absolutely no problems. If you do all your own work and have a good base to start with, it doesn't take time to fix it.

  • @gabewilliams5993
    @gabewilliams5993 Před 5 lety

    The p.o’s knowledge and maintenance skills are the biggest factor in buying a used bike. You could buy a 2016 that never had the oil changed or air filter cleaned and it may barely run if at all, or you could buy a 90’s two stroke that was always maintained and taken care of properly. I was in a position where I could’ve bought an 08’-12’ 250f that probably needed work and I wouldn’t enjoy it too much, instead, I bought a 99’ kdx that was literally in showroom condition even after hundreds of hours. The person I bought it from knew what they were doing and replaced parts and performed maintenance when needed. Most likely, you won’t be able to “out ride” the bike you buy, but I can always be better. The bike I bought had all sorts of bolt on modifications that made it more competitive and stronger, and it’s just perfect for my needs. I wouldn’t haven’t any other way.

  • @rihs335
    @rihs335 Před 5 lety +1

    The worst think its what hapends of older bike is then you cant get the parts for bike then is very hard to work on :( First think when i buy the 10 yiers+ older bike first need to watch if parts are available.
    This is rely good point of video :)

  • @jeremywilliams4381
    @jeremywilliams4381 Před 5 lety

    ive got a 2003 ktm 250sx that ive had for 10 years. plastics look new and the whole bike still looks new and the damn thing runs like a brand new bike. it aint the age of a bike, its how well the bike is maintained. i bring my 2003 out on the trails and im ripping it up with brand new 450s and 350s and my old ass 2003 hangs with them easily.

  • @jakethelittlesnake6258
    @jakethelittlesnake6258 Před 5 lety +1

    For me I bought a 2011 KTM 250sx for like $3850, a lot of ppl I know acted like that is way to much and I should of just went out and bought an older $1500 bike. However my cousin bought a 2000 kx 250 for $1100 and Ive had to help him put so much work into that thing and it still is having some small problems. I have had one major problem from my bike when gear oil start leaking and a gasket had to be replaced which cost me a lot of money. Also fork seals blew out, but other than that the only problems have had from it our just from me being rough on it. While my friends that own old bikes have trouble getting theirs to run right. Im not saying buying a keep bike is a bad thing, because as much as I love to ride, Id ride anything. However, I will say that you are better off paying more for a used bike upfront then buy even more to fix it.