You should never take off without letting the sled warm up. It's very hard on that 2 stroke engine. Plus there's not even enough snow to even be riding the sled. It won't get cooled down properly.
Riding in low snow like that is not good for the track or the carbides and you should always try to stay off the road at all costs only cross the road dont ride down it and let the damn sled warm up and it blew up cuz u had no air filter which costed it to run lean and that's why it blew up
Sorry too see that. Just take some time and go thru some basic checks. Spark,fuel, air etc. Could be simple fix. But pull cord moves so that is a good sign. Look in cylinder for holed pistons, do compression check.
It’s a fan so the little snow wouldn’t hurt it and the road didn’t rly matter but it’s not good for your skis and bogey wheels and get a air filter asp and let t warm up be for just going at least 2 minutes of it warming up would help that could Be a reason why it blew just tryin to help
What do you suppose would matter with a fan cooled sled? The motor gave out, he didn't burn down hifax or skis. It's plenty cold. He got sold a bad sled. Don't blame him
I was cringing as you started it and took right off, needs to warm up. Nice sled with reverse, I really like the fan cooled 340/440 Arctic Cat sleds. Did you rebuild it?
Anthony G it ended up to not be blown started up a little later so it ended well, but it is always very hard to start even with a can on starting fluid
If it is starting hard so that you need starting fluid,you most likely have a seal leak either on the crankshaft, or base gasket, or somewhere where the two halves of the base are mated together. Better check it before you do run it lean enough to melt a piston.
thats low hp engine. if you start running slowly, you dont need to warm up. of course if you go full throttle right away, you can bust your engine but that is not what the guy was doing.
Kind of not really, maybe for a minute tops. Yes 2 strokes don't like to hear fast and you can do damage. Most of you have no experience with how not to blow up sleds.
I have a 1996 arctic cat z 440 fc and my dad took it out to our trailer, drove it around a bit and it died just the way this one did. But instead of it being a minor problem the piston now has a chunk missing.
Well i can see why he blew it up, its because he didnt let it warm up. He just took off right after he started it. You always let them warm up 5 to 10 minutes before riding.
I dont even warm up my 5.7 v8 h3mi for that long. Just a minute is goid to get tye oil warming on 4 stroke. In fact you are likely doing mire damage than goid with 10 minute snowcat warmup. Nope not on a jag 440 on a 20 degree day. Heating up really fast might cost you a piston, but rarely. You warm up your chainsaw. Just dont go full out right away thats a góid warm up. You guys have no oil in your veins
Fan or air cooled doesnt matter always take precaution and let them warm up... Both can still blow up just like that. And yes snow does matter. You still need enough snow to ride a fan cooled or an liquid cooled. The snow cools the engines down. Not enough snow can still blow up even fan cooled engines. I know cus i blew up a fan cooled sled because i rode witout enough snow.
Snow does not cool a fan cooled engine for anyone hearing different. You still need to warm it up a few minutes though because the pistons expand from heat faster than the cylinders do. Fan cooled are cooled from the air blown by the fan over the cooling fins AND they are cooled from being jetted fatter than their liquid counterparts. That's why they are so much faster on super cold days. Cold temps allow denser air (more oxygen) so your air to fuel ratio is closer to ideal instead of being on the safe side (rich). But since the air is colder it does a better job on those days to cool the engine. It's also way more fun when your sled is ripping so you can still blow it if it gets a little too lean or you push it too hard.
Ten minutes is on the extreme long end. If it's not below zero a few minutes is usually good. You should ALWAYS let them warm up though. The pistons expand before the cylinders do so if you don't let them both get a little warm at least you will blow your engine. That's not what happened here, but it happens all the time with noobs.
When this happens pour some gas where the spark plugs go about a spoonful this is a novice rider thinking its broken also let your sleds warm up for about 5 minutes before heading out
You did nothing wrong, you git sold someones oroblem. A fan cooled doesnt need s bunch of snow for heat exchangers. I hav bought some nice snowmobiles that have turned out to need a cylinder rebuild. Effing people. I bet it 2ae teetering witg low compression, you definately got a bad deal. Looks great though.
!0o always 10 min warmup!! never start and go w a cold sled.A newer sled needs even more warmup and cannot hit power band cold or your losing cylinders and warping engine, I bet you overheated and *melted then seized your track to rail, from road riding w no snow-that cannot cool the track- need 6+ to ride safely, *lift sled and drop to loosen track.not seized @ 6:04 can hear turn over, flooded but compression loss for sure ** I have always started mine on a lift or an old log so track is free, do same before parking, never ride in road, always cross only..will eat up your skags and you have no steering. After 20+ years of riding old 82-98s in feet of snow from MA NY and VT have always checked every part of sled before going out..i been stranded in a river crossing cuz of a rock, lost a tie rod and walked 4 miles, stuck in a snow drift..seen some craaazy stuff, be safe- know your sled - oil , coolant , spare belt..
Don't Rev or take off right away after it starts, always let the warm up, and never ride them if there's not enough snow. I can bet you over heated it. And fried the piston.
Yes! I know I shouldn’t have been riding it but I was too exited because it was the first snow while I had my snowmobile I unhooked my helmet strap and then took my glasses off before taking off the helmet
First of all that's he didn't let it warm up enough, second of all not enough snow. That's y he blew it up....kid you don't belong on a snowmobile if you don't know how to take care of one.
@@tommysuth1018 haha that's awesome, I figured you got it started again I could hear it try n start ..still bet the compression was low tho. Glad to hear ya got some use out of er tho hah
You should never take off without letting the sled warm up. It's very hard on that 2 stroke engine. Plus there's not even enough snow to even be riding the sled. It won't get cooled down properly.
shawn moore yes! I know that now... aha
It is an air cooled motor...............
@@slickjimmy76 it will still burn the hyfax's up on the rails
@@shawnmoore5621 dont try to catch up. its too late we know you are an idiot
@@claudemarchand1196 about as much as an idiot as you are replying lmao!
Riding in low snow like that is not good for the track or the carbides and you should always try to stay off the road at all costs only cross the road dont ride down it and let the damn sled warm up and it blew up cuz u had no air filter which costed it to run lean and that's why it blew up
alex keever PB yea I regret it... kinda
Did t blow up lost sparks
Most sleds dont have air filters. They're ridden in the winter so there isnt dust. my z370 and z440 don't have air filters
Doesn't seem like it blew, probably something plugged the carb or bad spark plug.
Bad coil probably lost spark cuz the coil got warm
Sorry too see that. Just take some time and go thru some basic checks. Spark,fuel, air etc. Could be simple fix. But pull cord moves so that is a good sign. Look in cylinder for holed pistons, do compression check.
It’s a fan so the little snow wouldn’t hurt it and the road didn’t rly matter but it’s not good for your skis and bogey wheels and get a air filter asp and let t warm up be for just going at least 2 minutes of it warming up would help that could
Be a reason why it blew just tryin to help
I feel for you, buddy!
Hopfully you learned a lesson. Dont ride down roads, wait till theres enough snow, and let your sled warm up before you take off.
What do you suppose would matter with a fan cooled sled? The motor gave out, he didn't burn down hifax or skis. It's plenty cold. He got sold a bad sled. Don't blame him
the doom and gloomers were all wrong.
they drag race them in the summer on the golf course here in maine.
I was cringing as you started it and took right off, needs to warm up. Nice sled with reverse, I really like the fan cooled 340/440 Arctic Cat sleds. Did you rebuild it?
Anthony G it ended up to not be blown started up a little later so it ended well, but it is always very hard to start even with a can on starting fluid
If it is starting hard so that you need starting fluid,you most likely have a seal leak either on the crankshaft, or base gasket, or somewhere where the two halves of the base are mated together. Better check it before you do run it lean enough to melt a piston.
thats low hp engine. if you start running slowly, you dont need to warm up. of course if you go full throttle right away, you can bust your engine but that is not what the guy was doing.
@@claudemarchand1196 whatever floats your boat. I let my sleds idle for 5 or more minutes. At least until the air is warm blowing off the engine.
Kind of not really, maybe for a minute tops. Yes 2 strokes don't like to hear fast and you can do damage. Most of you have no experience with how not to blow up sleds.
I have a 1996 arctic cat z 440 fc and my dad took it out to our trailer, drove it around a bit and it died just the way this one did. But instead of it being a minor problem the piston now has a chunk missing.
Plexa Gamer luckily for me it started right back up the next day and ran for the whole season, these sleds can have anything happen to them
Lmfao the worst sound it could make she cocked the fucking motor
Gotta let it warm up better or else you get cold seizure in em tho its not as hard on the air cooled as the liquid cooled but still hard on em
Carburetion.
It just over heated, if it was blown up it wouldn't turn over
Well i can see why he blew it up, its because he didnt let it warm up. He just took off right after he started it. You always let them warm up 5 to 10 minutes before riding.
false. the guy didnt go full throttle. f/c engines are tougher than that.
I dont even warm up my 5.7 v8 h3mi for that long. Just a minute is goid to get tye oil warming on 4 stroke. In fact you are likely doing mire damage than goid with 10 minute snowcat warmup. Nope not on a jag 440 on a 20 degree day. Heating up really fast might cost you a piston, but rarely. You warm up your chainsaw. Just dont go full out right away thats a góid warm up. You guys have no oil in your veins
@@claudemarchand1196these posters are clearly not real versed on 2 stroke engines and liquid vs fan. Salliea
Fan or air cooled doesnt matter always take precaution and let them warm up... Both can still blow up just like that. And yes snow does matter. You still need enough snow to ride a fan cooled or an liquid cooled. The snow cools the engines down. Not enough snow can still blow up even fan cooled engines. I know cus i blew up a fan cooled sled because i rode witout enough snow.
you are an idiot. fan cooled engines have no contact at all with the snow. you can change the jetting and run them in summer moron
Snow does not cool a fan cooled engine for anyone hearing different. You still need to warm it up a few minutes though because the pistons expand from heat faster than the cylinders do. Fan cooled are cooled from the air blown by the fan over the cooling fins AND they are cooled from being jetted fatter than their liquid counterparts. That's why they are so much faster on super cold days. Cold temps allow denser air (more oxygen) so your air to fuel ratio is closer to ideal instead of being on the safe side (rich). But since the air is colder it does a better job on those days to cool the engine. It's also way more fun when your sled is ripping so you can still blow it if it gets a little too lean or you push it too hard.
Guys, do not let your 2 strokes warm up for 10 effing minutes. Its nit a car, and even cars only need a minute.
Ten minutes is on the extreme long end. If it's not below zero a few minutes is usually good. You should ALWAYS let them warm up though. The pistons expand before the cylinders do so if you don't let them both get a little warm at least you will blow your engine. That's not what happened here, but it happens all the time with noobs.
When this happens pour some gas where the spark plugs go about a spoonful this is a novice rider thinking its broken also let your sleds warm up for about 5 minutes before heading out
You did nothing wrong, you git sold someones oroblem. A fan cooled doesnt need s bunch of snow for heat exchangers. I hav bought some nice snowmobiles that have turned out to need a cylinder rebuild. Effing people. I bet it 2ae teetering witg low compression, you definately got a bad deal. Looks great though.
3:58 "don't know why that happened" maybe because you where full throttling it when it was still cold
!0o always 10 min warmup!! never start and go w a cold sled.A newer sled needs even more warmup and cannot hit power band cold or your losing cylinders and warping engine, I bet you overheated and *melted then seized your track to rail, from road riding w no snow-that cannot cool the track- need 6+ to ride safely, *lift sled and drop to loosen track.not seized @ 6:04 can hear turn over, flooded but compression loss for sure
** I have always started mine on a lift or an old log so track is free, do same before parking, never ride in road, always cross only..will eat up your skags and you have no steering. After 20+ years of riding old 82-98s in feet of snow from MA NY and VT have always checked every part of sled before going out..i been stranded in a river crossing cuz of a rock, lost a tie rod and walked 4 miles, stuck in a snow drift..seen some craaazy stuff, be safe- know your sled - oil , coolant , spare belt..
thers no snow lol but sorry bud that sucks
Let it warm up a bit
Don't Rev or take off right away after it starts, always let the warm up, and never ride them if there's not enough snow. I can bet you over heated it. And fried the piston.
Snow has nothing to do with air cooled motor they suck air from out side
And youd be 100% wrong
I bet it blew up because you didnt let it warm up or it had low oil
I just filled the oil up must have been because I didn’t warm it up
No the spark plugs would have went before it would blow and it’s a fan not a liquid
And if it had no oil it would just Sieze right up
It was oil injected so maybe that wasn’t working
Tommysuth101 best to remove oil injection and mix
Buy a snowmobile dollie
I know I need one, I just dragged it back with the truck and I am done with snowmobiles now trying to sell them
It’s too hot and not much snow , and you should remove your glasses before removing your helmet
Yes! I know I shouldn’t have been riding it but I was too exited because it was the first snow while I had my snowmobile
I unhooked my helmet strap and then took my glasses off before taking off the helmet
First of all that's he didn't let it warm up enough, second of all not enough snow. That's y he blew it up....kid you don't belong on a snowmobile if you don't know how to take care of one.
Worst felling ever hah. likely had really low compression and was probably ready to blow anyways with how many pulls it took to get going
I put it in the garage and it started up next time to went to ride. Rode it for the rest of the season and sold it
@@tommysuth1018 haha that's awesome, I figured you got it started again I could hear it try n start ..still bet the compression was low tho. Glad to hear ya got some use out of er tho hah
This guy doesn't know much about sled i can tell........
Do you live in seabreez
Luke Byrnes yes I do
We ahould go rideing sometime only 25 min
Its an air cooled sled you didn't blow it up they just get warm and shut off
I'm literally 14 and I know more about snowmobiles then you
What was wrong with it
It's a cat get used to it