Samyang vs Tamron 35-150mm F2-2.8 // Whats ACTUALLY different?
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In this video we look at two lenses which on paper are very similar. The Samyang 35-150mm F2-2.8 and the Tamron 35-150 F2-2.8 and cover the actual differences between the two and see which is better?
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0:00 - Intro
0:20 - Price and Warranty
0:28 - Size and weight
0:53 - Min focus and Lens design
1:11 - 3rd Party lenses vs Sony?
1:37 - Focus breathing
2:37 - Lens Stabilization (Active Stab on FX3)
3:29 - Camera insurance?
4:49 - Autofocus and Example Footage
6:03 - Are either Parfocal?
7:07 - Interesting Difference (design wise)
10:17 - Samyang custom button features
11:20 - Tamron custom button features
11:53 - Which one is better?
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AHHHH which one do i keep?!
Parfocal. You do videos.
Well, that 6yrs warranty and knowing that Tamron partially owned by Sony just screams reliability to me, but $500 is $500 everywhere :D let us know which one you are keeping... I am waiting for the Tamron 70-180 f2.8 G2 upgrade (coming out soon) with vibration compensation to upgrade my G1 version. I am still a 16-35 (Sony GM) 24-70 (Sigma) and 70-180 (Tamron) combo guy :D
@@g_lantos I don't think the 70-180 V2 will have VC because they didn't add it to the 28-75 either
The Tamron looks better. And we all know that a cooler looking lens is the most important thing.
It will have vc.
As always, a great video. Would love to see you do an in depth photo comparison of the two lenses.
Thanks so much for making this video! You've helped me make a decision on new gear to buy. You're engaging and I love your style and cadence in your reviewing. Keep it up!
Appreciate you 🙏🏼
Thanks so much for the comparison! I've been really curious on how it would perform
since the Samyang version released.
I don't understand what you mean by the Samyang feature that allows you to do dolly zooms. To me that means that you dolly the camera while also controlling the zoom. What does the custom switch/ring feature do in this situation?
Great comparison! I'd love to see Sony (or someone) do a 35-150mm with a constant f/2.8, and save a bit on the size/weight. That's the main thing that's been making me pause on picking up either of these.
that would be lovely indeed, maybe also with OSS
@@_rhapsodistmost ff tamron and samyang goes the non is route , so dont get you hopes up - even the 28-75 sacrificed is
I was able to fit the Tamron 35-150mm in my hard case with minimal rearrangement from having the first generation Sony 24-70mm GM. It's a bit longer but not by much. Both are heavy bastards though and there's no way around that!
@@KNAPPAID the Tamron 70-180 G2 has stabilisation now 😉 (but yeah they really should have put it in the 28-75 G2 as well..)
Constant 2.8 is very unlikely to save much weight. f/2.8 at 150mm is a 53mm aperture - The Tamron will do f/2.0 out to about 40mmm ff/2.2 to 60mm, f/2.8 thereafter. 40 f/2 is a 20mm aperture, 60mm f/2.2 is a 27mm aperture i.e. most of the size is driven by that 150mm f/2.8 end
I simply found the Samyang to have a nicer rendering.
Woody looked more out of focus on that lens in the comparison. Which is nice when making your subject pop from the background
When using AF, I never noticed the Tamron not being parfocal. Footage looks great when zooming on an A7IV
Guess i's only an issue for MF shooters.
@@sulev111It's fake-focal, tho. It compensates for being varifocal using the AF motors. A convenient feature when you don't want to re-focus in MF, but it's not true parfocal. You could see it in action in this video.
I appreciate this video. Thank you for doing this.
finally a review that I'm waiting for..
Hi Chris ! Is there any difference between third party and Sony glasses with standard Steadyshot mode ? Thx
Thanks for this, very informative! I know you are more focused on video but as a hybrid shooter it would have been useful to see an AF tracking performance comparison in photo mode. For me that would be the key determining aspect that would make me decide which one to get.
I suspect the Tamron is better. Any thoughts on that?
Old reviews noted the af was crap, it wasn't parfocal at all, had worse coatings and worse sharpness. Maybe the update improved af and parfocal issues. Both lenses aren't parfocal. They use autofocus correction while zooming to mimic parfocal behavior.
In Australian dollar. I got the samyang for under $1500, cheapest tamron was about $2250, Australian stock didn't want to buy samthing on the Gray market because you won't get warranty. A $750 difference will help buy a Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 g2. So far the samyang has been amazing.
Nice where did you get the Samyang for that price? I agree it's a great lens...bit heavy though! @tysao2044
What gimball do you use for this amount of weight?Ronin 3? Weebill 3?
Great video thanks!!!! Would you use this Samyang for weddings or could 24-70 also be fine? The weight seems to be very similar
Curious to know what gimbal you use to fly the samyang?
Hi, did anybody encounter a problem with the zoom ring? Mine is rolling by itself while positioning the camera downwards.
Great vs video! I was very curious with this one and wow that samyang surprised me as a Tamron fan boy. I have been trying to go all Sony lately, but we shall see
It’s hard to not go Sony these days with the active stab
Wait does active stab only work with Sony lenses? Or just work better w Sony?
Great comparison. I've had the Tamron for 2 years on an A1 and it has been excellent. But I just got a Lumix S5iiX and will get the Samyang version as soon as it is available in L-mount. I'm used to the weight and size. I use a monopod a lot... because of the weight and size. I need and use the zoom range and the fast aperture for indoor sports.
Does PPA work in Canada?
It looked to me, that the Samyang wasn't parfocal, but was using its Autofocus Motors to compensate when zooming. But that's just from looking at your footage. It becomes blurry twice, then snaps back into focus.
you're right!
its a little bit sus tbf.
Both aren't parfocal. They use af adjustments while zooming. Maybe Tamron needs an update in that regard for mf shooters.
I think you look at the wrong lenses for parfocal abilities. The parfocal feature is mostly on cinematographic zoom lenses that are very expensive. I don't think any sony, canon, or nikon have a parfocal zoom. Not possible with this price range. Why do people expect these lenses to have parfocal if the most expensive sony GM lenses don't have🤦🤦
@@danielbogos263 you don't think but some of them actually are 😉
If I remember correctly, Gerald Undone showed in his video that his sample performed as a parfocal lens. Obviously there is some sample variation at play.
Pretty sure he said in the video parfocal had to be turned on in the lens using the tamron utility app.
Great video brother
off topic, but do you know if ppa covers "stolen" equipment?
What about aberration? Had a very bad experience with chromatic aberration with the Samyangs. In photography you could tweak it, but in video you're done.
Watching this while waiting for my Tamron to be delivered💀🤣
Let’s gooooooo
Good I thought I was the only one
Same here just bought mine
Same! Lol
x2
Hi guys, i ve got the tamron.
i really love it.
I own 14 lenses now and most of them are not parafocal (or not with précision).
My sony lenses are not parafocal either.
I do only video.
it s not disturbing me.
My 35-150 tamron is 5 years warrenty and weight less (it s Still a heavy lens yet).
Moreover i need the same color than my other lenses (28-75g2 and 70-180) so when i use the 3 in an interview it marches better.
For these reason tamron is better for me.
See you guys
Glad to see you like the Tamron!
They are the same lens from Tamron, plot twist, Tamron is actually owned by Sony since they acquired Minolta back in the day.
Tamron license their designs to a lot of manufacturers like Sony, Canon, Nikon, Fujifilm, Olympus, even Sigma which also license their lenses to other manufacturers, a lot of Sony G master lenses are actually designed by Tamron.
If you look at the element count, its identical to Tamron, there nothing inherently wrong about this, its just how business work, no need to reinvent the wheel. There few cosmetic changes to the Samyang, when I say this its because Samyang manufacturers their version of this lens, the glass, the barrels, everything is made in a Samyang factory.
Missing the pop up for active stabilization at 2:46.
Ok
I am using Tamron 17-70mm f2.8 but not Samyang yet. But I see that the material made on Tamron is easy to get dirty, micro dirty.
I used this lens for the first time on a shoot today, and it's focus was all over the place. When zooming it would lose it pretty bad, and on the edges of the frames it had some a issue focusing on faces as well as some odd abberation, also when my A7sIII would lock focus on a face, it would not actually be in focus. Is this what the new Firmware update is for or did I get a dud? Also, possible that it was fighting my ND? Is that a thing?
I'm assuming you're talking about the samyang, mine did the same thing for photos. For video it was a lot better on my a7siii, but for photos it was continuously hunting
@@RP685_thegoochthis was unfortunately video with the Samyang/Rokinon. I got some good stuff, but it’s unfortunately not reliable enough to count on so I’ll be returning it I think.
Do you feel like the image quality between the two is that much different? Or pretty much the same?
It’s very similar. They render contrast and colour slightly different but thats really hard to show unless you have two identical scenes. (Which I didn’t for this vid)
Great to hear@@chrisbrockhurst
Can you please add your experience what focal length the lenses can manage with a faster aperture (2.0, 2.5) before switching to 2.8?
Check fro knows photo’s review of the Tamron - if I’m not mistaken, 35-42mm is 2.0
60mm is 2.8
@@davidglukh6473 yes. And for the Samyang it was f/2.0 only at 35mm and f/2.8 for everything else. I am looking for confirmation from another source if this is the case for all units out there.
(Edit: I think now this info is wrong, see my other comment below)
@@Mac_Daffy my friend owns a samyang, will ask her now and let you know
Hello, i own a tamron 35-150 and your answer interest me!
thanxx
I watched another comparison by HR Images with side-by-sideo comparisons including the camera data and from those examples it looks like the f/2.2 and f/2.5 focal lengths are identical. My comment above is therefore likely wrong and I will edit it.
Eagerly waiting for my samyang lens to get delivered
Using tamron from last 1.5years very good all around lens I would say ,only issue is the weight. Love it 16-35 Gmaster and 35-150 tamron make my bag size smaller
Anybody using the Samyang in L-mount ?! Need to know how it is..
I feel like the Samyang (after the update) is a really good deal, especially because I found it for 980$ and there seems to be a lot of customisation that doesn't require a PC, which I appreciate as an amateur photographer.
Chris could you tell , how is tha handheld video performance, in terms of stabilisation is it bearable , and we can easily shoot handheld videos , ?? Please could you tell
Do you guys think this are good lenses for sports content?
If 150 is enough for you then yeh
Could of swore i tested the parfocal on my tamron and it worked perfect 🤨 I'm gonna have to test it again now.
Also, dont forget to mention how people are experiencing their samyang lens mount breaking off. Seen a few posts on the forums now of the samyang breaking from normal use. Like the mount cant handle the weight of itself.
In my experience so far it's a moot point. just because my 70-200 doesn't have a tripod mount doesn't mean I shouldn't support it - same with pretty much any other lens I have thats over a kg, or even a bit less.
@vinkobacek4827 I watched all the comparisons and it seems like it's 50/50 parfocal on both brands. Some work, some don't. Weird. I got lucky with my Tamron I guess lol
@@DexterGoneWild Eh, I can't account for that as I've just ordered one, but I was referring to the broken mount bit, I just find it best practice to support any lens that's on that in-between to heavier side so if people experience the mount breaking I'm not sure how much that is on the mount quality itself and how much on people blindly trusting the mount with such a heavy weight
35mm on the Tammy looks wider to me- did you notice that at all?
I didn’t but it happens on some lenses
I picked up the Samyang for $999 and I love it! The only con I have with it is the zoom ring has creep in it. Meaning that if I turn the lens upside down the lens zooms in by itself. This is minor I know but still wanted to point it out.
May I ask where do you find it for this price? Cheapest I’ve seen is $1070.
B&H Photo had it on a Black Friday Sale. $1070 is close enough!
@@TheTanXS
Excellent review between the two, I've watched a couple now best so far.
Glad you enjoyed it!
No word about the corner sharpness issues, or Samyang's heavy flaring in sunlight¿
just bought the tamron and the focus is so hit or miss it's annoying . for the reputation and price I'm shocked it has issues out the box like this. in HI bust it hits amazing shots then randomly focuses on a random object like a tree or car somewhere in the background
Yes, my Tarmon also has the same problem. I thought it was just me who had this problem
@@user-rx7og5on6y i replaced it for another one and this one works better
Well, I already have the Tamron so it's a moot point, but this is my favorite lens that I've ever had, and I'm, 64 years old!
It’s literally almost perfect
If it had VC too and maybe start from 28mm, man, dream lens.
Tamron has lens utility customization, weighs less, and has a 6 year warranty. Easy choice.
So wish these lenses were available for the Canon RF mount!
so many people requesting the same.
buy a Sony
@@GilbertTV I know right 😂
For the price of canons RF 28-70 f2 i can literally buy samyang 35-150mm, Sony A7IV and still would be left with a couple of bucks for second body battery.
I am so mad at canon right now.
Bad construction, after a year of use it have a lot of dust inside, not used in risky places, always cleaned and being careful about dust etc... Not happy at all about this, with my tamron 35 150
You do not want to add another 150 gram on top of a lens many already say too heavy. This alone make me to choose Tarmon.
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Yooo . Samyang is actually Parfocal. I didnt know. That makes my decision making a lot harder. :( Tamron has so many advantages.
Something to note that you did not cover in the video =
Samyang at the widest end is NOT actually 35 mm. You can even see it in the video. The Tamron shows a Wider FOV at 35mm compared to Samyang.
They do both have the same FOV at 150mm though.
Samyang renders colours a little cooler than the Tamron, which looks slightly warmer straight out of the camera. This is due to the difference in coatings used for each lens.
Tamron is better in Corner sharpness + Flaring aspects. (Samyang flares horribly in backlit shots whereas tamron has better contrast in similar situations)
Sorry 🙃
No, Samyang is "electrically" parfocal. When you zoom in or out, the lens will trigger re-focusing.
That was on the German youtube channel from Krolop & Gerst.
Samyang. Parfocal sealed it, everything else is a bonus.
The sharpness of the Tenglong 35-150 is very good, and it has become my most commonly used photography lens
The problem with Samsung they dont have Z mount and Tamron does
Is it me or Tamron's white balance to yellow?
I think it’s his lights
I think it's a little yellow, I have the Samyang 35-150 and it's a great lens for the price, this week I picked up a Tamron 28-75 to test and I saw that it's also a little yellow compared to the Samyang
I keep forgetting how warm Tamron images come out soc
big up to Samyang 😎
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16 inches is 40.64cm - not 33cm
Yay haha first like
Do people still do that?
I'm glad you did!
I bought the samyang using company money, im about to resign and go to canada now im sure im going to buy the tamron
Wish Tamron would make L mount. Samyang just did
Not a focal range that interests me but if I had to buy one it would be Tamron. Samyang is still an iffy brand to me.
Ohh that's definitely your problem, not Samyang's.
@@arghyadipsen2429 And?
@@arghyadipsen2429😂🎉😂🎉
Tamron or Samyang ???
Watch the vid 😉
I mean to be fair, it didn’t seem like you came to a conclusion?
tamron so warm
Some like that
I choose samyang. Soon! Woody want to play with kids. He's bored of listening. 🤣
😂
Sup
sup.
Samyang is better
the tamron constantly fixes the sony sterile color science
the samyang looks awful with colors